KC teen knocks door on wrong house, gets shot

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My Name Is Judge
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Glad he's recovering, disappointed to see the the family went straight to Ben crump the race pimp…

My only question is where are all these bleeding hearts on the threads of young minorities performing felonies?
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torrid said:

I'm guessing this is the general location? No, not confusing at all.

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.9201523,-94.5422288,17.58z
Articles stated North KCMO. That's Grandview. Not exactly gang banger territory.
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boomer on social security said:

Go Fund Me by Faith Spoonmore is at 1,598,880. Feel bad for the kid so I donated. Hopefully it will make the 2 million dollar request.

90% of that money will be wasted.
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W said:

the homeowner did not know the person at the door was a "great kid" and all that
Blast from the past

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Scot is shot dead when mistaken for prowler
A SCOTTISH businessman visiting Houston, Texas, was shot dead by a householder after being mistaken for a prowler.

Andrew De Vries, 28, from Aberdeen, was shot at about 5am local time after he knocked on the back door of a house, apparently seeking a taxi for himself and a Scottish colleague, Sydney Graves, 42. The owner fired through the door.

The men, employed by the international oil company Nowsco, were in the US for a training programme. Police said the shooting happened in an area of the city that had suffered 'home invasions' in which robbers batter down doors and steal property. They said it was unlikely the householder would be charged.
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I guess I read the anecdote wrong, thought the Bexar County thing was a guy chasing a burglar, not just a wrong house knocker.
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Shooter in his 80s? Can his defense be mentally incompetent for trial
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Esteban du Plantier said:

I guess I read the anecdote wrong, thought the Bexar County thing was a guy chasing a burglar, not just a wrong house knocker.


No, it was a guy chasing a "burglar." His story was that he chased the guy (who was inebriated) out of his house, but there was nothing taken or disturbed inside and there was no sign of forced entry. Unless the homeowner left his front door unlocked or the drunk guy had a key that disappeared, the story of him being in the house at any point is dubious at best. TLDR the guy lied through his teeth and a jury believed him.

In any event, the guy he shot did not have any stolen property on him, so lethal force should not have been justified.
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My Name Is Judge said:

Glad he's recovering, disappointed to see the the family went straight to Ben crump the race pimp…

My only question is where are all these bleeding hearts on the threads of young minorities performing felonies?


More likely crump went to them. He has the relevant experience and a big name, so no surprise they took him up on whatever offer he made. It's no different than Jim Adler or Thomas J. Henry's associates chasing ambulances.
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Not a Bot said:

10pm, young black male ringing the doorbell. Unfortunately it's going to put people one edge given the events of the last several years. American minds have been trained to fear instead of trust and that's sad.

I hope this was caught on camera somewhere. If he did shoot him again after he fell he needs to go away for a long time. The first shot *may* have been legal depending on the circumstances.


This is a a terrible take, and I'm as pro-Castle Doctrine as they come.

It is not REASONABLE to shoot someone for ringing your doorbell. If you are scared for your life, don't open the door.

Old man is likely headed to jail unless some additional details come out.
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Gen x hasn't done a damn thing except pat themselves on the back
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2 felony counts filed against 85 year old white man
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Kid is already out of the hospital
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Horn_in_Aggieland said:

2 felony counts filed against 85 year old white man
Live your whole long life and then do something incredibly stupid at the end to get thrown in prison.
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Prosecutor said there is a racial component to this, but no words were exchanged. There is no video or witnesses. Old man probably couldn't keep his mouth shut after police arrived.
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He's charged with assault in the first degree and armed criminal action.
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Horn_in_Aggieland said:

2 felony counts filed against 85 year old white man
And Joe Biden still is not indicted, it is an unfair world.
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boomer on social security said:

What makes you think I pay substantial taxes.


You might want a refund…
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ETX is honestly starting to scare me a bit as someone who may be trigger happy.
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Dan Scott said:

Prosecutor said there is a racial component to this, but no words were exchanged. There is no video or witnesses. Old man probably couldn't keep his mouth shut after police arrived.



Or you have a over zealous DA….

https://www.kshb.com/news/election-2020/mark-dupree-wins-2nd-term-as-wyandotte-county-district-attorney
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AggieKatie2 said:
ETX is honestly starting to scare me a bit as someone who may be trigger happy.
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My Name Is Judge said:

Glad he's recovering, disappointed to see the the family went straight to Ben crump the race pimp…

My only question is where are all these bleeding hearts on the threads of young minorities performing felonies?
Merritt is there, too.

Guess these two missed the memo that this was a private homeowner, not the city police.

Anyone on here donating to the GoFundMe better consider that your money is going directly to pay these two because they're not getting a settlement from the city to grift off of.
Wild West Pimp Style
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Tragic, if true.



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According to Faith Spoonmore, who identified herself as Ralph's aunt and has started a GoFundMe page, the homeowner "opened the door, looked my nephew in the eye, and shot him in the head. My nephew fell to the ground, and the man shot him again. Ralph was then able to get up and run to the neighbor's house, looking for help."
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48 hour undefeated
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AggieKatie2 said:
ETX is honestly starting to scare me a bit as someone who may be trigger happy.
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So that Time article doesn't actually say anything about him entering the house, just that the homeowner opened the door and shot him. That could have been a mistake on their end to phrase the headline that way. So it's a little premature for people to say case closed.

I'm not saying I know what happened, by the way. Just that I can already see this turning into a partisan George Floyd-esque divisive issue when it probably doesn't need to.
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The prosecutor added there is no evidence that the teen entered the home and preliminary evidence shows Lester opened fire on the teen through a glass door with a .32 caliber revolver.
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Just saw on news that the honor student wants to come to A&M in ChemE. I wish the kid well.

SIAP.
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Well this should serve as a nice left-right distraction
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He did not enter the house. Homeowner shot him through a glass door.
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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/kansas-city-shooter-exchanged-words-ralph-yarl-opening-fire-teens-atto-rcna80033

This article has more information about the shooting
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Prayers sent up
Scotty Appleton
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Did the white girl that gotten beaten on her doorstep by the black mob in Chicago this weekend get an ESPN update and a phone call from the president? What about a Gofundme?
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Exactly, this is always the narrative until more information comes out.
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Scotty Appleton said:

Did the white girl that gotten beaten on her doorstep by the black mob in Chicago this weekend get an ESPN update and a phone call from the president? What about a Gofundme?
THIS. Also, why are there protests over this shooting but no protests when its black on black or white on white shootings?

I thought I saw something on ESPN about this. Unreal. How in the hell does this pertain to sports??
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Not a Bot said:

10pm, young black male allegedly ringing the doorbell. Unfortunately it's going to put people one edge given the events of the last several years. American minds of all races have been trained to fear instead of trust black strangers because of the culture they have perpetuated and that's sad.
I helped out with the salient details that you left out.
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rgag12 said:

Homeowner is a big dummy and deserves to away for awhile.

Protecting your property is one thing, but shooting someone you think doesn't look right immediately after they ring your doorbell is another.


Deserves a trial first….and then he deserves everything that follows. Assuming there is no funny business by the owner the side of innocent should be faco
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ABATTBQ11 said:

He did not enter the house. Homeowner shot him through a glass door.
The son of my neighbor was shot and killed when he tried to enter what he thought was the house of a friend. He had the wrong address and the woman that was alone in the house thought he was trying to break in. She was not charged for shooting him.
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Article linked just above said the teen is already out of the hospital. That is amazing.

He is lucky to be alive. Praise the Lord that he saved him.

I am sure the old man was confused and scared and thought he was about to be robbed.

Shot him through the door in the head and then shot him again while laying on the ground.

I pray for a full recovery for the kid. Terrible tragedy for all involved.
 
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