HumbleAg04 said:

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Gotta love history. We "celebrate" Juneteenth but ignore that slavery persisted legally in NJ, Kentucky, and Delaware until 13th amendment in December of 1865. Last slave state was a union state.

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Did you say…Delaware?

laavispa said:

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What Grager's GO actually said- to 'The people of Texas'.


Galveston Texas June 19th 1865.
General Orders
No. 3.
The people of Texas are informed that, in accordance with a proclamation from the Executive of the United States, all slaves are free. This involves an absolute equality of personal rights and rights of property between former masters and slaves, and the connection heretofore existing between them becomes that between employer and hired labor.
The freedmen are advised to remain quietly at their present homes and work for wages. They are informed that they will not be allowed to collect at military posts and that they will not be supported in idleness either there or elsewhere.
By order of Major General Granger
F.W. Emery
Major A.A. Genl.

Note some of the provisions of the order were promptly ignored, I suspect.

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Ignored by democrats…. Until two of the biggest racists, George Wallace and LBJ figured they could "use" black votes.
"Ghetto, free public housing? That's the price we pay to keep those folks on their side of town." Bobby Kennnedy- democrat.
The real bogey man is and always has been democrats. Maybe not so much today,,they just exploit everyone in the name of justice.

Gigem314 said:

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HumbleAg04 said:

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Gotta love history. We "celebrate" Juneteenth but ignore that slavery persisted legally in NJ, Kentucky, and Delaware until 13th amendment in December of 1865. Last slave state was a union state.

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Did you say…Delaware?

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I think you meant to say "racial jungle."

HumbleAg04 said:

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Gotta love history. We "celebrate" Juneteenth but ignore that slavery persisted legally in NJ, Kentucky, and Delaware until 13th amendment in December of 1865. Last slave state was a union state.

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Still not the last slaves within the borders of the the U.S.

The Treaties of Washington did not happen until 1866, after the 13th was ratified and over a year after Juneteenth.

I guess it's an inconvenient truth that slavery still existed within the Native American tribes officially until the summer of 1866 and were emancipated only after the signing of treaties, where the U.S. gave into other demands made by the 5 Tribes.

This is not meant at a swipe at the tribes. It is what it is. But I find it interesting that the Texas history of the news of emancipation becomes the celebration of the final group of slaves learning of their freedom, when another group of slaves existed on the tribal lands for a little over a year after June 19th 1865.

This part of history has gotten scant attention over the years and has never been mentioned that I can remember once the Feds decided to elevate a Texas history moment to a federal holiday.

Small but important difference, it freed slaves in a state of rebellion on Jan 1 1863 but the proclamation was made in Sep 1862. So it really freed no slaves at the time

And prepare yourself for the pandering tweets in a few weeks of "I already celebrated my Independence Day on Juneteenth."

OK - go into work on July 4 then.

LMCane said:

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my commute down I-270 was 12 minutes today!

thanks Biden!

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Days like today are when you realize that half of the economy is government.

HumbleAg04 said:

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Gotta love history. We "celebrate" Juneteenth but ignore that slavery persisted legally in NJ, Kentucky, and Delaware until 13th amendment in December of 1865. Last slave state was a union state.

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Dems desperately needed to pander after Saint Floyd's Martyrdom and now they will believe to the end of time that today was the end of slavery in the US when it wasn't even close. Plus it lets them pretend that Texas was the final hold out of slavery which they love no matter how untrue it is

Agsinheart said:

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Happy Juneteenth to both republicans and democrats!
Lol I know my party, but I won't start a political fight here lmao

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Hopefully your party isn't the one that has wreaked absolute havoc on the black community since the 60's.

Gigem314 said:

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HumbleAg04 said:

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Gotta love history. We "celebrate" Juneteenth but ignore that slavery persisted legally in NJ, Kentucky, and Delaware until 13th amendment in December of 1865. Last slave state was a union state.

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Did you say…Delaware?

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FJB was probably still around back then.

Don't you think this isn't what we should be arguing about in a forum like this. I choose peace, and I promise you #blacklivesmatters

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And most of the idiot masses will think it is the day slavery in the US ended, which of course it is not.

Making it a federal holiday was nothing but pandering.

If one wants a holiday celebrating the end of slavery, it should be when it actually ended, with the ratification of the 13th Amendment.

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Juneteenth on the national level is cultural appropriation of a regional celebration by Black Texans.

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It's ironic that the vast majority of the folks that will be off of work because of Juneteenth are white people.

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If you don't work for the government or in banking, how many people actually get today off? It's business as usual for everyone I know. Although I'd have no issue with an extra holiday.

So wasn't I suppose to celebrate this last weekend? How many times are we suppose to celebrate 19 June?

Insightful and thoughtful piece from Condoleezza Rice. I would take her as President over anyone we've had, or who has ran, in the last 15+ years.

www.thefp.com/p/condoleezza-rice-juneteenth

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To me, Juneteenth is a recognition of what I call America's second founding.

Despite our nation's extraordinary founding documents about equality, this country was founded as a slave-owning state. That is our birth defect. But the words in those carefully crafted documentswritten by great men who were themselves flawed human beingsultimately lit the way toward a more perfect union. In some sense, the history of the United States is a story of striving to make their soaring wordsWe the Peoplereal to every American. It's the story of becoming what we profess to be.

When I was sworn in as 66th Secretary of State by Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg, I glanced up at a portrait of Benjamin Franklin in the State Department. I wondered what he would have thought of this great-granddaughter of slaves and child of Jim Crow Birmingham pledging to defend the Constitution of the United States, which had infamously counted her ancestors as "three-fifths" of a person. I wanted to believe that Franklin would have liked history's turn toward justice and taken my appointment in stride.

Today, just as I once did with my parents, I will celebrate Juneteenth. I will think about my ancestors and what they must have felt when they were liberated from slavery. And I will give thanks for being born in a country where such moral progress is possible. That is worth celebrating not just by black Americans but by all of us.

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AggieVictor10 said:

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Gigem314 said:

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HumbleAg04 said:

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Gotta love history. We "celebrate" Juneteenth but ignore that slavery persisted legally in NJ, Kentucky, and Delaware until 13th amendment in December of 1865. Last slave state was a union state.

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Did you say…Delaware?

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FJB was probably still around back then.

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He was born closer to Lincoln's administration than his own. True fact! Look it up.

I went to a high school in Texas that was almost 1/2 black…no one celebrated this.

I sit here today thankful though because my company gave me the day off

I have no problem recognizing the significance of Juneteenth and celebrating what it means to certain segments of our citizenry. But making it a federal holiday makes about as much sense as making Cinco de Mayo a federal holiday.

Burdizzo said:

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I have no problem recognizing the significance of Juneteenth and celebrating what it means to certain segments of our citizenry. But making it a federal holiday makes about as much sense as making Cinco de Mayo a federal holiday.

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I'd much rather trade Juneteenth for the day after the Super Bowl. How that isn't a holiday is beyond me at this point.

Someone tell Trump to campaign on this!

if you're bored and eager to see a ticker tape celebration of freed slaves... try google searching "Juneteenth flag" in a Chrome browser.

AggieVictor10 said:

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Gigem314 said:

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HumbleAg04 said:

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Gotta love history. We "celebrate" Juneteenth but ignore that slavery persisted legally in NJ, Kentucky, and Delaware until 13th amendment in December of 1865. Last slave state was a union state.

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Did you say…Delaware?

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FJB was probably still around back then.

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Probably trying to plagiarize the Gettysburg Address and get that ten percent for the big guy.

I grew up in Texas, so I learned about this holiday/date in history class. It is a very Texas-centric day... and that's ok. I think many people are against it as a national holiday because it is tied directly in their minds to all the craziness with George Floyd.

The A&M football FB page had to lock comments on their Juneteenth post.
Texas A&M Football FB post

Just a reminder of how far we've come

Foreverconservative said:

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Just a reminder of how far we've come

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Photoshop has really improved over the years. What font is that?

Ozzy Osbourne said:

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Foreverconservative said:

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Just a reminder of how far we've come

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Photoshop has really improved over the years. What font is that?

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Nepomuk and Roman Ionic are good choices for that "vintage" look.

I honestly don't know anyone that has today off.

Jbob04 said:

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I honestly don't know anyone that has today off.

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Working for a virtue signalling Bay Area company has its benefits... sometimes.

Jbob04 said:

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I honestly don't know anyone that has today off.

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We are. Work for a Fortune 100 that has a lot household brands that are likely in your pantry and fridge, and has always been subtly woke. Get MLK too.

We are.

so funny to see some people act so passive aggressive about juneteenth

like you can tell they wanna hate on it because it's woke-coded but are too nervous to cross the line

1993. Joe Biden heaps lavish praise on Robert E. Lee and Strom Thurmond.

Happy Juneteenth! pic.twitter.com/YnaxMDyjJr

— MAZE (@mazemoore) June 19, 2024

Strange holiday. Lately seems like the participants have to make human sacrifices at these events to the God of Glock.

Happy Juneteenth lol

Black woman is mad she has to work for a white person on Juneteenth and then demands only black people get paid double. pic.twitter.com/VP3k7hzCaI

— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) June 19, 2024