Trump Speaks With Zelensky

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Gaeilge
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Oh...and Elon was on the call as well. I'm thinking this call consisted of "You're not going to see another dime and you better be ready to sit your ass down."

Your thoughts?
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Maybe we'll have a whistle blower recording to listen too?
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Ukraine Funding Austerity Now!

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Gaeilge said:



Oh...and Elon was on the call as well. I'm thinking this call consisted of "You're not going to see another dime and you better be ready to sit your ass down."

Your thoughts?


Not according to anything Trump has ever said about the issue.
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Gaeilge said:



Oh...and Elon was on the call as well. I'm thinking this call consisted of "You're not going to see another dime and you better be ready to sit your ass down."

Your thoughts?

Do people really think Trump will cut Ukraine off?
Bwahahahahahaha……get ready to be seriously disappointed. He's not letting Putin have all of Ukraine. Fortunately, he smarter than the TexAgs Putin lovers.
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I think Trump will continue aid...but it might come with conditions now moving forward. I could absolutely see him making certain demands and not just giving Ukraine a blank check with no plan.
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B-1 83 said:

Gaeilge said:



Oh...and Elon was on the call as well. I'm thinking this call consisted of "You're not going to see another dime and you better be ready to sit your ass down."

Your thoughts?

Do people really think Trump will cut Ukraine of?
Bwahahahahahaha……get ready to be seriously disappointed. He's not letting Putin have all of Ukraine. Fortunately, he smarter than the TexAgs Putin lovers.
I think Ukraine and Russia were to meet in Turkey with terms to end the war over a year ago and USA/NATO sent Boris Johnson to squash it so we could keep funding and running a shadow forever war. Trump will get them back to the table with their terms and end the senseless killing.
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if past is any indicator, I firmly believe he will work to end the war and set strict demarcation points. Remember the message to the Taliban leader about missiles in windows and how they were in line until pedo joe took office
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Very much doubt Trump is going to let it all go. Elon's being in on it may mean there is a high-tech component to what is coming, and it may be part of the solution. Trump will grant some to Russia probably. Crimea is a fairly easy call historically, but don't expect not to extract concessions from Russia and not shaft Ukraine totally either. This is a Teddy Roosevelt brokering moment. That Elon is involved is intriguing it may have some new dimensions.
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Elon gave Ukraine a crap ton of Starlinks at the outset of hostilities so their forces could still talk to each other. He pretty much saved them in the early going.
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I believe Trump is on record saying that US would no longer just give Ukraine money, I believe he wants to lend them money to be paid back at a later date
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The Biden admin is trying to push through the remaining $6 billion in aid before he leaves office. Fortunately/unfortunately we have yet to replenish our own inventory of munitions so we can send that to Ukraine so we can replenish our own inventory of munitions and so on and so on.
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Ag_SGT said:

I believe Trump is on record saying that US would no longer just give Ukraine money, I believe he wants to lend them money to be paid back at a later date


Secured by what?
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B-1 83 said:

Gaeilge said:



Oh...and Elon was on the call as well. I'm thinking this call consisted of "You're not going to see another dime and you better be ready to sit your ass down."

Your thoughts?

Do people really think Trump will cut Ukraine off?
Bwahahahahahaha……get ready to be seriously disappointed. He's not letting Putin have all of Ukraine. Fortunately, he smarter than the TexAgs Putin lovers.



This will be a good bump.
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Trump is stuck with this for a while. He can't simply cut Ukraine off cold.
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Hungry Ojos said:

Ag_SGT said:

I believe Trump is on record saying that US would no longer just give Ukraine money, I believe he wants to lend them money to be paid back at a later date


Secured by what?

Their country?
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B-1 83 said:

Gaeilge said:



Oh...and Elon was on the call as well. I'm thinking this call consisted of "You're not going to see another dime and you better be ready to sit your ass down."

Your thoughts?

Do people really think Trump will cut Ukraine off?
Bwahahahahahaha……get ready to be seriously disappointed. He's not letting Putin have all of Ukraine. Fortunately, he smarter than the TexAgs Putin lovers.
Ahh, the tired low IQ argument that anyone who does not want to endlessly fund a proxy war is a "Putin Lover". Really showing off your A&M education there.
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B-1 83 said:

Gaeilge said:



Oh...and Elon was on the call as well. I'm thinking this call consisted of "You're not going to see another dime and you better be ready to sit your ass down."

Your thoughts?

Do people really think Trump will cut Ukraine off?
Bwahahahahahaha……get ready to be seriously disappointed. He's not letting Putin have all of Ukraine. Fortunately, he smarter than the TexAgs Putin lovers.
Uh, probably won't cut it off immediately.....but, he will wind up the war very quickly!
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A lot of posters on this board will be very disappointed when Trump continues aid.


Remember, he was the first to give them lethal aid, and gave Speaker the Johnson the go head on the last aid package that was passed.
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Artorias said:

B-1 83 said:

Gaeilge said:



Oh...and Elon was on the call as well. I'm thinking this call consisted of "You're not going to see another dime and you better be ready to sit your ass down."

Your thoughts?

Do people really think Trump will cut Ukraine off?
Bwahahahahahaha……get ready to be seriously disappointed. He's not letting Putin have all of Ukraine. Fortunately, he smarter than the TexAgs Putin lovers.
Ahh, the tired low IQ argument that anyone who does not want to endlessly fund a proxy war is a "Putin Lover". Really showing off your A&M education there.

Well he was in B-1.

Signed:
F-1 83

Just kidding.
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Viper16 said:

B-1 83 said:

Gaeilge said:



Oh...and Elon was on the call as well. I'm thinking this call consisted of "You're not going to see another dime and you better be ready to sit your ass down."

Your thoughts?

Do people really think Trump will cut Ukraine off?
Bwahahahahahaha……get ready to be seriously disappointed. He's not letting Putin have all of Ukraine. Fortunately, he smarter than the TexAgs Putin lovers.
Uh, probably won't cut it off immediately.....but, he will wind up the war very quickly!


This will depend entirely upon how hard headed Putin is. Trump will tell Zelensky that the lost lands won't be won back. But we will support them in defense of what's left. Putin will have to agree at current lines. Problem is Putin already sold the capture of all of Ukraine to his people and with his long diatribe essay about how Ukraine doesn't actually exist and belongs to Russia.
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Logos Stick said:

Trump is stuck with this for a while. He can't simply cut Ukraine off cold.
Yes he can and yes he should.
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I have a friend who's dead uncle knew a guy who could spell Ukraine…

Word on the street is that Trump wants all the corruption exposed and that they re-hire Victor Shokin…or they're cut off…

We'll, son of a b… They re-hired him..
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Elon will be arrested, tried, convicted, sentenced under the Logan Act before all is said and done.
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Tea Party said:

Logos Stick said:

Trump is stuck with this for a while. He can't simply cut Ukraine off cold.
Yes he can and yes he should.

But he won't. There's zero chance of it. Trump likes making deals. He also loves american industry and the MIC being a part of that is making a killing with this war.
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When does Elon Musk sleep?
C@LAg
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Zelensky's chief leg-humper somehow always makes it to these threads within 30 minutes.
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On the contrary, I'm showing off 60+ years of being raised by a dad who is a veteran of 3 wars and studied Russia and Russian mentality for years. Any capitulation to Russian is in Putin's favor and strengthens Russia. Sorry your world view is so narrow and short sighted due to what ever "education" you received.
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C@LAg said:

Zelensky's chief leg-humper somehow always makes it to these threads within 30 minutes.

People posting on a message board on topics that interest them?


NO WAY
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Teslag said:

Tea Party said:

Logos Stick said:

Trump is stuck with this for a while. He can't simply cut Ukraine off cold.
Yes he can and yes he should.

But he won't. There's zero chance of it. Trump likes making deals. He also loves american industry and the MIC being a part of that is making a killing with this war.
I didn't say he will. He made an absolute statement that he can't do something. I said he can.

And you also made the idiotic absolute claim of "there's zero chance of it". That is a flat out idiotic crystal ball prediction that you cannot guarantee to be true.

I agree he likely won't but I would venture any funding will come with some very short strings attached, and hopefully with a guarantee of repayment or stronger commitment to pro-American causes.
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B-1 83 said:

On the contrary, I'm showing off 60+ years of being raised by a dad who is a veteran of 3 wars and studied Russia and Russian mentality for years. Any capitulation to Russian is in Putin's favor and strengthens Russia. Sorry your world view is so narrow and short sighted due to what ever "education" you received.
So are you willing to put US soldiers on the ground in Ukraine? Because that is the only way UKE is getting the land back, and it will end up with dead US soldiers. Maybe your kids can be on the front lines of fighting against the "capitulation", mine sure won't be.
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The hope is with Trump there isn't a NEED for more aid. The best case scenario for all involved is a negotiated peace along current lines, Ukraine in NATO, Russia gets their eastern gains, and that's it. It's over. Trump can get that deal done.
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B-1 83 said:

Gaeilge said:



Oh...and Elon was on the call as well. I'm thinking this call consisted of "You're not going to see another dime and you better be ready to sit your ass down."

Your thoughts?

Do people really think Trump will cut Ukraine off?
Bwahahahahahaha……get ready to be seriously disappointed. He's not letting Putin have all of Ukraine. Fortunately, he smarter than the TexAgs Putin lovers.


What makes you think Putin wants "all of Ukraine"?
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I support the Ukr mission.
I hold heartedly support full accountability for what is given to Ukr.

To be honest Biden has promised much and has not followed through. There is a last minute push to get stuff to Ukr. Now.
NATO has been a more reliable ally than the US.

I think the US will become more reliable, have clearer goals, will hold both Ukr and Russia accountable. As long as the NK stay in Russia proper……maybe the conflict will not escalate.
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Artorias said:

B-1 83 said:

On the contrary, I'm showing off 60+ years of being raised by a dad who is a veteran of 3 wars and studied Russia and Russian mentality for years. Any capitulation to Russian is in Putin's favor and strengthens Russia. Sorry your world view is so narrow and short sighted due to what ever "education" you received.
So are you willing to put US soldiers on the ground in Ukraine? Because that is the only way UKE is getting the land back, and it will end up with dead US soldiers. Maybe your kids can be on the front lines of fighting against the "capitulation".


B1 never said we should support Ukraine until they "get their land back". That's not happening. But Russia will have to give up on getting of Ukraine like they set out to do.
 
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