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just gonna have to be crystal clear with Putin that if things are frozen where they are and durable boundaries are drawn on a map that if the Russians step even one inch over that line that Ukraine will have military assets that will cause a lot of misery in deep Russia next time. No more "restrictions" on hitting Russia under that scenario.

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That's why it's easier to just put Ukraine in NATO, like they want. It's a voluntary defensive pact. Ukraine is a sovereign nation and should be allowed to associate with whoever they want.

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This is such a stupid suggestion and puts all the risk on us.

Please have a seat and stop suggesting such nonsense.

Why do we give one single **** whether they are in NATO or not?

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Because it ensures lasting peace with zero possibility of further Russian aggression against Ukraine.

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* Until the next democrat is in the Whitehouse.

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US politics no longer matter in the same way once Ukraine is in NATO. If Article 5 is invoked all signatories to the Atlantic Treaty are obligated to consider an attack on Ukraine as an attack on them all. If the United States were to shirk its obligations, that doesnt mean the rest of the signatories would not go to war and honor their obligations.

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Tom Kazansky 2012 said:

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🚨BREAKING: Donald Trump and Elon Musk informed Zelenskyy that the war is over and urged him to prepare for negotiations. They also stated that no additional funds or weapons will be sent to Ukraine.

Game over.

— Jack (@jackunheard) November 8, 2024

Called it.

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Source - trust me bro.

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I'm just stirring y'all up.

If it says "breaking" it's legit.

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ELON MUSK JOINED TRUMP'S CALL WITH ZELENSKY - AXIOS.

— FinancialJuice (@financialjuice) November 8, 2024

Oh...and Elon was on the call as well. I'm thinking this call consisted of "You're not going to see another dime and you better be ready to sit your ass down."

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Do people really think Trump will cut Ukraine off?
Bwahahahahahaha……get ready to be seriously disappointed. He's not letting Putin have all of Ukraine. Fortunately, he smarter than the TexAgs Putin lovers.

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Wanting to stop a war makes one a "Putin lover"? Please, tell us more.

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Not admitting Putin didn't have to invade and that he can stop whenever he wants to, sure would make it seem that way.

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More shallow analysis. Please keep going.

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More not showing me to be wrong.

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You think in absolutes. You can't be wrong. Your mind won't allow it.

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I'm wrong all the time, and on all kinds of things, you just haven't shown me on this thing how I'm wrong.

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There's probably 10 other posters that have countered your positions, and you still adhere to your same opinion. Have any of those arguments changed or expanded your view of the situation? I doubt it. Do you understand that the country just decided they want to go a different direction? You seem content with status quo until we are bled dry, with absolutely zero discussions with both countries to find a solution. The truth is, we don't know what Trump will do yet you've already decided it's wrong.

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No, I said in an earlier post that I think Trump is going to do the right thing.

How is saying, "Putin invaded Ukraine and he could end his invasion whenever he wants to" an opinion?

Do you think Putin isn't in charge of what his country is doing in this war?

Tom Kazansky 2012 said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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Tom Kazansky 2012 said:

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🚨BREAKING: Donald Trump and Elon Musk informed Zelenskyy that the war is over and urged him to prepare for negotiations. They also stated that no additional funds or weapons will be sent to Ukraine.

Game over.

— Jack (@jackunheard) November 8, 2024

Called it.

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Source - trust me bro.

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I'm just stirring y'all up.

If it says "breaking" it's legit.

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Lol! Okay, now that's funny.

Tom Kazansky 2012 said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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Tom Kazansky 2012 said:

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🚨BREAKING: Donald Trump and Elon Musk informed Zelenskyy that the war is over and urged him to prepare for negotiations. They also stated that no additional funds or weapons will be sent to Ukraine.

Game over.

— Jack (@jackunheard) November 8, 2024

Called it.

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Source - trust me bro.

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I'm just stirring y'all up.

If it says "breaking" it's legit.

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It's amusing, no doubt. Reality is we're probably about to see the Biden administration dump as much cash and weapons on Ukraine as possible in the next 2 months and remove as many usage restrictions as they can get away with. Even with the packages we've approved and have on the move they could conceivably continue to put up strong resistance through most of 2025.

Things have a chance at getting squirrelly because if Trump were to outright say "you're done and Russia owns you once I get in office" then there's really no justification for Ukraine not to pull out all the stops and use what we've given them however they wish in an all out Hail Mary attempt. For this reason I'd doubt him tipping his hand even if this were his ultimate intent.

There are still plenty of unexpected scenarios that could play out, which is another reason why I just don't see Trump rolling in with a "you're fired" attitude towards Ukraine.

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I really wish these threads didn't always devolve into "if Putin had never invaded, there wouldn't be a problem!"... or "Putin can end the war whenever he wants by taking his forces out of UKE!"

Yes, we all know that, Captain Obvious. Those statements are meaningless and irrelevant because Putin did invade and he is never going to just pick up and go home. How about we focus on actual potential solutions to end the war that live in reality.

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Wish to raise just one point.

Do we know for sure Russia had zero reason to invade? Isn't it interesting that narrative that came from the same admin and press that gave us the past four years is accepted without question.

There are anomalies about the whole matter that are concerning. What we forget is many are more decisive than we are -- they will act against a threat faster, with more risk. That doesn't mean there wasn't a provocation, a reason, beyond simple land grab greed.

It still bothers me that Cruz -- a very reliable person -- appeared to confirm Ukraine was doing some of dubious bioweapon work. Was that ever settled? It wouldn't take much of that to see a possible need to intervene. But it may be all BS, yes, without a doubt. I don't even wish to raise it--- but its an example of the kind of thing that may pre-date 2014 and that is what few seem to be looking at.

Yes -- put that starting assumption under greater scrutiny. Maybe with an honest regime not involved in profiteering and laundering in the region, we can learn if it was entirely unprovoked.

Please don't jump in with a bunch of this or that's about it. Not saying what is true. Just saying -- examine the automatic acceptance, that there was nothing operating against Russia's interests. If there were, they have always acted more boorishly in such matters.

There's really no need to manufacture secret unseen justification for Russia's actions. We've seen them do this in Chechnya and Georgia. We saw them do this during the early and mid 20th century to other European countries. We saw them take over Crimea and manufacture the border dispute in Donbas (at the admission of members of the Russian military/government). Putin released and broadcast a massive manifesto ahead of the invasion and has over the years pontificated on Russia's rights to the lands and peoples surrounding it.

I think we're trying to make this harder than it is rather than accept who Putin and his cronies are based on their words and actions because, from our point of view, his point of view isn't rational. Putin didn't invade Ukraine to protect Russia from anything other than its own historic failure.

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There's really no need to manufacture secret unseen justification for Russia's actions. We've seen them do this in Chechnya and Georgia. We saw them do this during the early and mid 20th century to other European countries. We saw them take over Crimea and manufacture the border dispute in Donbas (at the admission of members of the Russian military/government). Putin released and broadcast a massive manifesto ahead of the invasion and has over the years pontificated on Russia's rights to the lands and peoples surrounding it.

I think we're trying to make this harder than it is rather than accept who Putin and his cronies are based on their words and actions because, from our point of view, his point of view isn't rational. Putin didn't invade Ukraine to protect Russia from anything other than its own historic failure.

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There is no manufacturing involved. I am saying, examine that stipulation. Everyone gives a pass for the meddling in Ukraine in that period which somewhat started this cycle.

Chechnya actually goes back to Yeltsin. They do manufacture things as you said. As mentioned earlier, if people will look at Tsarist Russia, they will see that this is the kind of stuff they do often. But the Donbas problem is not all Russia's fault. There is mutual bad blood there -- and rightly so -- goes back to Soviet days. And of course, recall the Holodomor.

All really saying is that the way it sometimes is painted is ignoring that it has two sides, an no, neither one is really Hitler.

I guess would say I am starting to wonder if Ukraine 2022 is Russian Commonwealth's "Bay of Pigs" --- a foolish invasion that had some grounds and catalyst for taking place, but was more stupid than sensible. Another similarity is it was a product of a border state getting too closely drawn into the orbit of a super-power's (us) open adversary.

I would agree that a large part of it was Ukraine deciding that they wanted to align with the US and EU for purposes of trade, modernization, and economic prosperity/progress vs continuing to be pulled in the direction of becoming Belarus.

Meddling in Ukraine was an equal product of Russia continuing to try and engineer Ukraine as a permanent Russian puppet and there was eventually a sufficiently sizable faction within the Ukrainian government that decided they didn't want that to be their fate. That's really when US and EU involvement (meddling) began. And, as would be expected, Russia wasn't a fan of that.

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I would agree that a large part of it was Ukraine deciding that they wanted to align with the US and EU for purposes of trade, modernization, and economic prosperity/progress vs continuing to be pulled in the direction of becoming Belarus. Meddling in Ukraine was an equal product of Russia continuing to try and engineer Ukraine as a permanent Russian puppet and there was eventually a sufficiently sizable faction within the government that decided they didn't want that to be their fate. That's really when US and EU involvement (meddling) began. And, as would expected, Russia wasn't a fan of that.

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No arguments. So our question now becomes is how much do we want to risk truly massive destruction and war over what amounts to an ongoing regional rivalry and spat. Particularly concerning was the recent all the warhawks here getting more and more cavalier how they spoke about it all, only furthering the impression to Russia (and others) that we don't want peace because we assume we would win.

Maybe now with that rhetoric removed- the aid can continue but the escalation talk can stop, and start to find a way to untie this. It will not be easy, but the rational self-interest of both countries and others involved may prevail yet.

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I would agree that a large part of it was Ukraine deciding that they wanted to align with the US and EU for purposes of trade, modernization, and economic prosperity/progress vs continuing to be pulled in the direction of becoming Belarus. Meddling in Ukraine was an equal product of Russia continuing to try and engineer Ukraine as a permanent Russian puppet and there was eventually a sufficiently sizable faction within the government that decided they didn't want that to be their fate. That's really when US and EU involvement (meddling) began. And, as would expected, Russia wasn't a fan of that.

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No arguments. So our question now becomes is how much do we want to risk truly massive destruction and war over what amounts to an ongoing regional rivalry and spat. Particularly concerning was the recent all the warhawks here getting more and more cavalier how they spoke about it all, only furthering the impression to Russia (and others) that we don't want peace because we assume we would win.

Maybe now with that rhetoric removed- the aid can continue but the escalation talk can stop, and start to find a way to untie this. It will not be easy, but the rational self-interest of both countries and others involved may prevail yet.

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At this point, that's all one can ask for.

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I would agree that a large part of it was Ukraine deciding that they wanted to align with the US and EU for purposes of trade, modernization, and economic prosperity/progress vs continuing to be pulled in the direction of becoming Belarus. Meddling in Ukraine was an equal product of Russia continuing to try and engineer Ukraine as a permanent Russian puppet and there was eventually a sufficiently sizable faction within the government that decided they didn't want that to be their fate. That's really when US and EU involvement (meddling) began. And, as would expected, Russia wasn't a fan of that.

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No arguments. So our question now becomes is how much do we want to risk truly massive destruction and war over what amounts to an ongoing regional rivalry and spat. Particularly concerning was the recent all the warhawks here getting more and more cavalier how they spoke about it all, only furthering the impression to Russia (and others) that we don't want peace because we assume we would win.

Maybe now with that rhetoric removed- the aid can continue but the escalation talk can stop, and start to find a way to untie this. It will not be easy, but the rational self-interest of both countries and others involved may prevail yet.

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Zero disagreement.

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Ukraine is a cabal led state, has been for a long time.

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What exactly is a "cabal led state". What is this "cabal", who are its members and leaders?

Thanks Teslag and Roosticus!

Didn't the left ***** and moan about Trump talking to foreign dignitaries before being sworn in in 2016?

The US has spent trillions of dollars since the end of WW2 preparing to battle the evil Red Hordes of Russia.

We now killing Russians and destroying their ability to wage war for pennies on the dollar by supporting Ukraine.

Trump needs to help Ukraine finish off Putin so he can be the President to accomplish what Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama, and Biden couldn't.

And anyone who supports Putin and Russia over Ukraine is either Russian or lacks an understanding of how the world works.

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Didn't the left ***** and moan about Trump talking to foreign dignitaries before being sworn in in 2016?

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The left pisses and moans about a lot of things. Eff 'em.

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Everyone who wants the war to continue should go over there and fight.

If you're not willing to do that stfu and support the ending of this pointless war started by democrats and Kamala.

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pretty sure the war was started by Putin

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The US has spent trillions of dollars since the end of WW2 preparing to battle the evil Red Hordes of Russia.

We now killing Russians and destroying their ability to wage war for pennies on the dollar by supporting Ukraine.

Trump needs to help Ukraine finish off Putin so he can be the President to accomplish what Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama, and Biden couldn't.

And anyone who supports Putin and Russia over Ukraine is either Russian or lacks an understanding of how the world works.

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None of that garbage is true. Goodness gracious.

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You should know the standard formula by now: season in a few lies to soften the blow, then unleash the difficult to swallow truth in the following paragraphs. It is interesting though, isn't it, how everyone continues to predict the war's end by spring-summer of 2025, and here the Pentagon admits that Ukraine may run out of troops precisely by that time, which would initiate what we can only assume is a complete collapse.

At the same time they admit that despite claims of high losses, Russia continues to recruit adequate numbers:

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Other Western diplomats dispute that the development is a sign of desperation and say it is a move meant to scare the West. Whatever the motivation, U.S. officials acknowledge that Russia is finding more troops and continues to sign up 25,000 to 30,000 new contracted recruits per month.

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The russian military, oligarchs, and economy have benefited tremendously over the course of this war. More:

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As for a possible settlement of the Ukraine conflict, the Wall Street Journal reported that one of the plans under consideration includes Kiev dropping its ambitions to join NATO in the near future and freezing the conflict along the current front line. While Zelensky has ruled out any concessions to Russia, including "trading" territory, Ukrainian media reports suggested that he might be powerless to resist US pressure if Trump decides that Kiev must make a peace deal with Russia.

Moscow has ruled out a freezing of the conflict, insisting that all of the goals of the military operation including Ukrainian neutrality, demilitarization, and denazification must be achieved. Nevertheless, Russia has signaled that it is open to talks aimed at resolving the crisis.

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We won't really know what Trump will do to end the carnage until January though. Hopefully, he includes a requirement Zelensky permit elections again though, so the Ukrainian people can finally replace him, as we did with Biden, and the European people are so desperate to get rid of their own pro-war leaders.

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Everyone who wants the war to continue should go over there and fight.

If you're not willing to do that stfu and support the ending of this pointless war started by democrats and Kamala.

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pretty sure the war was started by Putin

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He reacted to the provocation.

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I believe Trump is on record saying that US would no longer just give Ukraine money, I believe he wants to lend them money to be paid back at a later date

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Secured by what?

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Their country?

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Yeah! We know where they live. If they don't pay up we'll just invade them!

Wait…

Anyone ever thought this was the plan all along, provoke Russia into a war, have them use up years and years worth of their stockpiled weapons in the drawn out proxy war. Later have Trump come in and shut the war down. At least it sounds good

I think the reality now is that the war shuts down fairly quickly, say within 6 months w Trump in power. The real elephant in the room is how much energy business will the EU give back to Russia? The EU stands very little chance to compete world wide in certain parts of the industrial sector without cheaper Russian Nat gas , oil and feedstocks. This is where Russia got so much of its wealth to start with. My guess is within a year the EU is back to sucking the teets of Russia for that gas / oil / feedstock supply. Russia then has all this income pouring in once again. An easy way to look at it is Russia is the energy supplier to large parts of the EU, Russia supplies the Nat gas (for power for Homes & businesses) diesel and gas for cars/trucks/trains/planes and also all the Nat gas for industrial use…. One big one stop supplier and one huge buyer

Wash rise repeat … they need to figure out a way to all get along, but of course this goes against the industrial war machine mentality because you need enemies for the war machine to work. Also this feeds the cash cow that Russias energy sector has become

From what I gather on here, Putin/russia's economy is in bad shape has been for awhile now.

During Trumps term he had worked out a deal with the European Union to sell American LNG to keep them from having to buy from Russia. When president Tootin got in office he evidently queered that deal and the EU was forced to go back to buying from Russia. Now not hardly 2 days after Trump is back in office you see a report that the head of the EU is contacting trump wanting to reinstate the LNG deal. It's quite obvious the EU was beholden to Russia after Biden screwed everything up.

It looks like to me the EU deal with Russia helped stabilize their economy and gave Russia a source of funding for his brazen move into Ukraine along with Biden's complete ineptitude on the international scene.

Then first rattle out of the box Biden leaves a billion dollars or more of military assets in Afghanistan at the hands of the taliban. American citizens were falling off of airplanes trying to get out. What the hell was Putin or any other leader of a terrorist group or country (Iran) going to think?

And guess what in Feb 22 Putin invades Ukraine. Should it not have been any wonder? Where was detente before it ever got to that point? Where was Biden? On the
Pot? That was putin's history in Georgia & crimea. Should have headed this off at the pass

And now the US is forced to subsidize Zelensky to the tune of millions in cash and military equipment just to keep Putin from overrunning Ukraine and moving into Eastern Europe.

Ukraine is now a huge money pit that it wouldn't surprise me if both sides weren't benefiting from. It's surreal that this is developing into a never ending war going on 3 years now. Vietnam anyone? Russia/ Afghanistan anyone? Just another in a long line of meat grinders, equipment graveyards and money wasted.

The EU's hands are tied by economics and proximity. And there is not one leader in Europe that can stand up to Putin individually and a coalition would fracture at the first sign of push back. Why is that? Just look at 20th century Europe 2 devastating world war's and no desire to have another one.

So what's it going to take to end this utter nonsense?

None other than the Big Daddy of the USA. The wheels are already turning and things are happening fast. So my advice to you mealy mouth backstabbing Trump haters, get out of the man's way and let him work. If you can't get that Trump cob out of your ass go see a proctologist and a psychiatrist so you can somewhat enjoy the next four years. Thank you from all of us who are sick and tired the regurgitation of media idiots you listen to.

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From what I gather on here, Putin/russia's economy is in bad shape has been for awhile now.

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The thing is, that's just untrue, by any measure. GDP, sales of luxury goods, inflation, unemployment, you name it, the Russian economy is booming. The concern is that it is over-heating. But they could bring that under control quickly if they reach a deal and scale back on the exponential growth in defense spending.

In that respect, peace is exactly what you'd think we'd want to achieve as such; it's a subset of Putin's cronies who profit greatly from the defense spending. Those are the people 'we' ostensibly would like to see stop profiting from this war.

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Everyone who wants the war to continue should go over there and fight.

If you're not willing to do that stfu and support the ending of this pointless war started by democrats and Kamala.

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pretty sure the war was started by Putin

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Putin "If Ukraine joins NATO I will invade. If it doesn't I will not."

Kamalahala "Ukraine is going to join NATO!!! Cackle cackle cackle"

Russia invades Ukraine.

I'm sure it was something about ending this protracted war quickly because the money is about to go away.

You don't have a clue or a depth of understanding of Russia or its military.

The Russian economy is overheating in the very short term due to the military spending, but inflation is increasing and cash reserves are depleting. Russia is on a rocket ship towards 1990's economic collapse.

Russia has also depleted 70 years of military stockpiles. The very stockpiles that have supplied wars across the world.

The thousands of tanks and BMPs and tens of millions of artillery shells used up in Ukraine are ones that WE never have to deal with.

We are bleeding Russia dry. The average age of their soldiers is going up, they are out of prisoners, and are having to import Koreans to fight. The Russian economy doesn't have enough workers and the Russian war effort is soaking up 25-30 thousand a month.

We are helping Ukraine because it helps us. We are bleeding Russia dry, we are lab testing weapon systems for our coming fight with China, and we are setting up a massive market for US LNG exports. Our help to Ukraine is in the US's interestpolitically, militarily, and economically.

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Trump needs to help Ukraine finish off Putin...

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What does this even mean? Please, actually articulate a SPECIFIC still-unachieved objective that we can and want to accomplish by prolonging this war ("finish off Putin" is way too vague).

For me, the two initial US interests were 1) ensure the survival of Ukraine and 2) blow up a lot of Russian ***** We accomplished both and now this thing has devolved into a brutal, grinding, murderous stalemate that's not achieving anything for anybody.

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You don't have a clue or a depth of understanding of Russia or its military.

The Russian economy is overheating in the very short term due to the military spending, but inflation is increasing and cash reserves are depleting. Russia is on a rocket ship towards 1990's economic collapse.

Russia has also depleted 70 years of military stockpiles. The very stockpiles that have supplied wars across the world.

The thousands of tanks and BMPs and tens of millions of artillery shells used up in Ukraine are ones that WE never have to deal with.

We are bleeding Russia dry. The average age of their soldiers is going up, they are out of prisoners, and are having to import Koreans to fight. The Russian economy doesn't have enough workers and the Russian war effort is soaking up 25-30 thousand a month.

We are helping Ukraine because it helps us. We are bleeding Russia dry, we are lab testing weapon systems for our coming fight with China, and we are setting up a massive market for US LNG exports. Our help to Ukraine is in the US's interestpolitically, militarily, and economically.

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Read what you just wrote. Russia is already decimated. It's going to take them a decade just to rebuild to where they were three years ago, and in the meantime we've got the brightest minds in Silicon Valley building autonomous murder drone swarms (Anduril), creating military data science systems (Palantir), and who deploying who knows what sorts of systems into orbit (SpaceX). Their capabilities are laughable compared to what we have - Russia is done as a major geopolitical threat.

We kicked the bully in the balls and broke his nose and you're advocating that we go to his house and kill his dog. It's over. Just stop the pointless death.

They never joined so this doesn't make sense

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ELON MUSK JOINED TRUMP'S CALL WITH ZELENSKY - AXIOS.

— FinancialJuice (@financialjuice) November 8, 2024

Oh...and Elon was on the call as well. I'm thinking this call consisted of "You're not going to see another dime and you better be ready to sit your ass down."

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Do people really think Trump will cut Ukraine off?
Bwahahahahahaha……get ready to be seriously disappointed. He's not letting Putin have all of Ukraine. Fortunately, he smarter than the TexAgs Putin lovers.

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Trump gonna stop the war, thus the funding for the war will naturally stop.

LOL, I will pick just one metric to your 'uninformed' take; artillery munitions production. They are out producing us, and Europe combined 3:1. This year. And ramping up further.

On tubes (vs. shells), using the same Austrian built machinery to produce tubes they are massively outproducing us as well.


You labeling me as 'uninformed' is pretty comical, really. Claims the Russians are out of artillery defies common sense, Russian reports, battlefield reports from UFA, and our own CIA reporting/records.

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CIA report about the Soviets in 1970s importing 26 Austrian GFM rotary forges that gave them a production capacity of 14000 large bore, 200,000 medium bore and 730,000 small bore barrels. I've linked the CIA report again in the next post below. As the CIA noted, this gave the Soviets far more production capacity than they needed.

These GFM rotary forges are still in production in Russia. How do we know this? Well, here's a link to a video of Medvedev visiting the Motovilikha plant in Perm Krai (about 1200km east of Moscow) in August 2022. You'll see there's a green rotary forge hammering out a red hot large bore artillery barrel. The forge is green, which happens to be GFM's trademark colour. But more importantly, it's actually got the GFM name on it. Because it appears only momentarily in the video, I've included a screenshot of the GFM logo. I've zoomed in a bit, too.

What's become increasingly clear to me is that the so-called 'reliable' Western MSM is anything but. Lazy journalists are picking up nonsense stories on this platform and then repeating as if it's gospel without doing even basic checks. And they actually charge people good money to read this rubbish in their publications.

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According to Eric Prince (Tucker interview) the Russians have speeded up their artillery counter strike reaction time, from 1 h to 3 mins. If anyone is becoming more and more battle qualified, it's Russia. The West is gutted, and no one dares to say it.

— Yannick (@der_Yannick81) May 27, 2024

Bonus; they aren't 'conscripting' anyone at this point (unlike Ukraine), and have largely phased out use of Private Military contractors as their professional military strength has grown.

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You don't have a clue or a depth of understanding of Russia or its military.

The Russian economy is overheating in the very short term due to the military spending, but inflation is increasing and cash reserves are depleting. Russia is on a rocket ship towards 1990's economic collapse.

Russia has also depleted 70 years of military stockpiles. The very stockpiles that have supplied wars across the world.

The thousands of tanks and BMPs and tens of millions of artillery shells used up in Ukraine are ones that WE never have to deal with.

We are bleeding Russia dry. The average age of their soldiers is going up, they are out of prisoners, and are having to import Koreans to fight. The Russian economy doesn't have enough workers and the Russian war effort is soaking up 25-30 thousand a month.

We are helping Ukraine because it helps us. We are bleeding Russia dry, we are lab testing weapon systems for our coming fight with China, and we are setting up a massive market for US LNG exports. Our help to Ukraine is in the US's interestpolitically, militarily, and economically.

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Good grief, do you even read what you type? It sounds like you can't wait to start a war with China. This pro war **** has to stop. Let's send your kids over there.

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Bonus; they aren't 'conscripting' anyone at this point (unlike Ukraine), and have largely phased out use of Private Military contractors as their professional military strength has grown.

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Ya by phased out you mean disbanded after said PMC engaged in a coup and arched on Moscow. And by not conscripting you mean importing North Koreans to shore up their manpower woes.