United Healthcare CEO shot and killed in NYC

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The Parkland School Shooter got life without parole and Trumps government wants the dealth penalty for this? Clown show being run in Washington for sure.
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KillerAg21 said:

The Parkland School Shooter got life without parole and Trumps government wants the dealth penalty for this? Clown show being run in Washington for sure.
Different DOJ.
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KillerAg21 said:

The Parkland School Shooter got life without parole and Trumps government wants the dealth penalty for this? Clown show being run in Washington for sure.
Parkland shooting was under Florida state law and have their own procedures for DP cases.
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KillerAg21 said:

The Parkland School Shooter got life without parole and Trumps government wants the dealth penalty for this? Clown show being run in Washington for sure.
The Parkland shooter was tried under Florida law.

This guy is being tried by the US DOJ.

You are really trying way too hard to make everything into some kind of gotcha against Trump and Republicans.
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KillerAg21 said:

The Parkland School Shooter got life without parole and Trumps government wants the dealth penalty for this? Clown show being run in Washington for sure.


Is this a serious post?
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Rapier108 said:

KillerAg21 said:

The Parkland School Shooter got life without parole and Trumps government wants the dealth penalty for this? Clown show being run in Washington for sure.
The Parkland shooter was tried under Florida law.

This guy is being tried by the US DOJ.

You are really trying way too hard to make everything into some kind of gotcha against Trump and Republicans.
they have nothing else to point to as any kind of accomplishment these days.
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KillerAg21 said:

The Parkland School Shooter got life without parole and Trumps government wants the dealth penalty for this? Clown show being run in Washington for sure.

What? Is this a serious post?
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KillerAg21 said:

The Parkland School Shooter got life without parole and Trumps government wants the dealth penalty for this? Clown show being run in Washington for sure.


Lol
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the most cool guy said:

KillerAg21 said:

The Parkland School Shooter got life without parole and Trumps government wants the dealth penalty for this? Clown show being run in Washington for sure.

What? Is this a serious post?
That post seems like more of a clown show than what's happening in Washington.
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KillerAg21 said:

The Parkland School Shooter got life without parole and Trumps government wants the dealth penalty for this? Clown show being run in Washington for sure.
Only thing I can say that hasn't been mentioned above...

User name is absolutely not fitting here.

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Rapier108 said:

KillerAg21 said:

The Parkland School Shooter got life without parole and Trumps government wants the dealth penalty for this? Clown show being run in Washington for sure.
The Parkland shooter was tried under Florida law.

This guy is being tried by the US DOJ.

You are really trying way too hard to make everything into some kind of gotcha against Trump and Republicans.


Well this response by Rapier has pretty much blew up KillerAg's post…we won't see KillerAg on this thread again.
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KillerAg21 said:

The Parkland School Shooter got life without parole and Trumps government wants the dealth penalty for this? Clown show being run in Washington for sure.


You're bringing your clown show over to F16 I see
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MelvinUdall said:

Rapier108 said:

KillerAg21 said:

The Parkland School Shooter got life without parole and Trumps government wants the dealth penalty for this? Clown show being run in Washington for sure.
The Parkland shooter was tried under Florida law.

This guy is being tried by the US DOJ.

You are really trying way too hard to make everything into some kind of gotcha against Trump and Republicans.


Well this response by Rapier has pretty much blew up KillerAg's post…we won't see KillerAg on this thread again.


He's the Frank Burns of Premium

Guess he decided to bring his talents to F16
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Different Trumps DOJ? Why is this a federal case in New York? They charged him with terrorism. You don't think a school shooting would be terrorism?
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UnitedHealth under investigation for Medicare fraud. I'm sure the murderer's advocates will try to use this as justification for the deed.

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/unitedhealth-under-criminal-probe-possible-medicare-fraud-wsj-reports-2025-05-14/
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I'm Gipper
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KillerAg21 said:

The Parkland School Shooter got life without parole and Trumps government wants the dealth penalty for this? Clown show being run in Washington for sure.

What kind of stupidity is this? What exactly makes it a "clown show" to for prosecutors to seek the death penalty in a murder case?

Additionally, the Parkland shooter PLED GUILTY to his offenses to AVOID the death penalty. Florida prosecutors WERE, in fact, seeking the death penalty in the case and had, shortly after the indictment declined the defense's offers to plead in lieu of a death sentence. For whatever reason that change 2-3 years later right before the case would go to trial.

So you a) make a nonsensical comparison about b) something you know absolutely NOTHING about.
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KillerAg21 said:

The Parkland School Shooter got life without parole and Trumps government wants the dealth penalty for this? Clown show being run in Washington for sure.


You going to admit how wrong you were on this?
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KillerAg21 said:

The Parkland School Shooter got life without parole and Trumps government wants the dealth penalty for this? Clown show being run in Washington for sure.


Yep, death penalty. Give it to him. Both of them
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What is it about Minnesota??

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New York - Luigi Mangione will not face the death penalty for allegedly killing UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson in December 2024, a federal district judge ruled.

The decision is a loss for federal prosecutors, who were adamant about pursuing the death penalty in the case.

The judge dismissed the murder charge because it requires that the killing was committed during another "crime of violence." Prosecutors alleged the other crimes of violence were two stalking charges, arguing Mangione stalked Thompson online and travelled across state lines to carry out the killing.

Link: To Full Article
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CheeseSndwch said:

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New York - Luigi Mangione will not face the death penalty for allegedly killing UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson in December 2024, a federal district judge ruled.

The decision is a loss for federal prosecutors, who were adamant about pursuing the death penalty in the case.

The judge dismissed the murder charge because it requires that the killing was committed during another "crime of violence." Prosecutors alleged the other crimes of violence were two stalking charges, arguing Mangione stalked Thompson online and travelled across state lines to carry out the killing.

Link: To Full Article

Welp, if they can't get the death penalty, it's just gonna have to be GenPop and death by Bunga Bunga.

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The bar for death penalty is high, and given the fact that this guy is getting huge sympathy from his peers juat shows what this judge sees in the outcome based on this decision.
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The judge dismissed the murder charge because it requires that the killing was committed during another "crime of violence." Prosecutors alleged the other crimes of violence were two stalking charges, arguing Mangione stalked Thompson online and travelled across state lines to carry out the killing.

Ooookaaay.

I would argue stalking for the purpose of killing a person is part of a violent crime showing premeditation. If it can be charged separately, it is a separate crime.

Crossing state lines for the purposes of committing a violent act, is itself a violation of the Travel Act.

So I really don't understand the judge's reasoning here.
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Question for hawg. So, does this mean that, in New York, you can commit premeditated cold blooded murder, as long as it is not in conjunction with another violent crime, and not face the death penalty? If so, the death penalty in NY is moot really. Murder in conjunction with armed robbery, for instance, is not premeditated.
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aggiehawg said:

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The judge dismissed the murder charge because it requires that the killing was committed during another "crime of violence." Prosecutors alleged the other crimes of violence were two stalking charges, arguing Mangione stalked Thompson online and travelled across state lines to carry out the killing.

Ooookaaay.

I would argue stalking foe the purpose of killing a person is part of a violent crime showing premeditation. If it can be charged separately, it is a separate crime.

Crossing state lines for the purposes of committing a violent act, is itself a violation of the Travel Act.

So I really don't understand the judge's reasoning here.


The reasoning is the same as Chauvin. Judge is a coward afraid of psycho leftists going after them
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If that was my father that he shot in the back, he certainly would not fare well back on the street for sure.

This guy is an arrogant COWARD of the highest order.
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MagnumLoad said:

Question for hawg. So, does this mean that, in New York, you can commit premeditated cold blooded murder, as long as it is not in conjunction with another violent crime, and not face the death penalty? If so, the death penalty in NY is moot really. Murder in conjunction with armed robbery, for instance, is not premeditated.

No, no, no. NY state does not have the death penalty for anything but federal law does.

This is a federal case with federal charges. Different animal.
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Ok. That is a stupid federal law if this black robe is correctly applying it.
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MagnumLoad said:

Ok. That is a stupid federal law if this black robe is correctly applying it.

He isn't. He's also putting the cart before the horse a bit. Death penalty is a sentencing decision, not a charging decision. After trial and a verdict he can address it then, or just refuse to instruct the jury on them, if he so determines there was not enough evidence adduced at trial to support them.
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Is there any judicial recourse for his decision?
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MagnumLoad said:

Is there any judicial recourse for his decision?

At this stage? Limited. Appealing this decision in pretrial requires the judge to allow it usually.

But OTOH this decision has further effects on admissibility of evidence of those other acts, if push comes to shove. Judge theoretically could refuse to admit that evidence under this ruling.

Will he do that? IDK but could be a factor.
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The Judge thinks it very important that the Left (DemocRATS/Socialists/Communists) have a living martyr and someone to rally up the base when needed and no one is dying for their cause at the moment. No deaths, the imprisoned martyr makes a statement. MSM runs it, base rallies and celebrates. Living martyr plan works.
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Makes me think that the next Dem/Lib POTUS will give this ******* a pardon because his crime was against a Health Insurance Exec.

May even make a campaign promise to pardon those imprisoned for fighting MAGA or something.
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aggiehawg said:

MagnumLoad said:

Is there any judicial recourse for his decision?

At this stage? Limited. Appealing this decision in pretrial requires the judge to allow it usually.

But OTOH this decision has further effects on admissibility of evidence of those other acts, if push comes to shove. Judge theoretically could refuse to admit that evidence under this ruling.

Will he do that? IDK but could be a factor.

Quoting myself here with an update. FNC is reporting this decision along with the accompanying order regarding admissibility of the contents of his backpack (judge will let it in ) will also be appealed at the same time.
 
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