2040huck said:Which due process were they denied. ? Please explain4 said:flakrat said:
Unreal that there are 1500 still in jail for that.
Unreal that a bunch of them have been in prison for 4 years WITH NO DUE PROCESS OR TRIAL in the United States of America.
Here is the order related to J6 pardons. There are 14 individuals whose sentences are commuted and they will review the cases for pardons.
— Julie Kelly 🇺🇸 (@julie_kelly2) January 21, 2025
"This proclamation ends a grave national injustice that has been perpetrated upon the American people over the last four years and begins a…
Tramp96 said:2040huck said:Which due process were they denied. ? Please explain4 said:flakrat said:
Unreal that there are 1500 still in jail for that.
Unreal that a bunch of them have been in prison for 4 years WITH NO DUE PROCESS OR TRIAL in the United States of America.
Are you serious? Four years of imprisonment with no trial and you ask what due process they've been denied???
2040huck said:Which due process were they denied. ? Please explain4 said:flakrat said:
Unreal that there are 1500 still in jail for that.
Unreal that a bunch of them have been in prison for 4 years WITH NO DUE PROCESS OR TRIAL in the United States of America.
HTownAg98 said:Tramp96 said:2040huck said:Which due process were they denied. ? Please explain4 said:flakrat said:
Unreal that there are 1500 still in jail for that.
Unreal that a bunch of them have been in prison for 4 years WITH NO DUE PROCESS OR TRIAL in the United States of America.
Are you serious? Four years of imprisonment with no trial and you ask what due process they've been denied???
If you've waived speedy trial requirements, it can take that long, especially in federal cases. And, there's lots of ways to get around the speedy trial requirements.
This *****…Hubert J. Farnsworth said:Trump’s remarks in the Capitol Visitor Center today were a reminder that neither lies nor the liar who tells them get better with age. The Select Committee evidence is available on multiple websites and, as a criminal defendant, Donald Trump has had access to all the transcripts…
— Liz Cheney (@Liz_Cheney) January 20, 2025Quote:
Trump's remarks in the Capitol Visitor Center today were a reminder that neither lies nor the liar who tells them get better with age. The Select Committee evidence is available on multiple websites and, as a criminal defendant, Donald Trump has had access to all the transcripts for years. Remember Trump's character: He sat in his dining room watching on television as his supporters attacked our Capitol and brutally assaulted law enforcement. For hours, he refused to instruct the mob to leave. The truth will never change.
Seeth, you wretch.
One was executed by a fascist. Unfortunately, a pardon won't bring her back. Also unfortunately, a pardon shields her murderer from legal consequences.2040huck said:Which due process were they denied. ? Please explain4 said:flakrat said:
Unreal that there are 1500 still in jail for that.
Unreal that a bunch of them have been in prison for 4 years WITH NO DUE PROCESS OR TRIAL in the United States of America.
HTownAg98 said:
Of course. The presumption is that bail should be permitted, unless there are circumstances that would prevent that. But some were held without bail because of individual circumstances.
I want to know which ones weren't afforded a bail hearing.
HTownAg98 said:
What about the ones that either destroyed property or assaulted police officers?
HTownAg98 said:
What about the ones that either destroyed property or assaulted police officers?
GenericAggie said:HTownAg98 said:
Of course. The presumption is that bail should be permitted, unless there are circumstances that would prevent that. But some were held without bail because of individual circumstances.
I want to know which ones weren't afforded a bail hearing.
Who was held due to individual circumstances. Please offer a link and an example.
That's probably a good compromise standard. If any `violence' is only against inanimate they are more likely to be reasonable about not abusing bail or further escalating if you give them some slack till case can be examined. If you think the damage was particularly willfull, just make the bail more costly and so forth.backintexas2013 said:HTownAg98 said:
What about the ones that either destroyed property or assaulted police officers?
Still should have gotten bail. With the way bail reform is in some states they would be released with no bail.
I think no bail should be saved for murder or sexual assault. Things in that realm I see no bail. Assault and destruction of property even if it's felony should get bail. The exception I would say is repeat offenders or people that are likely to flee.
backintexas2013 said:
Not a single person on the left or any concerned moderates should complain. Biden pardoned who he wanted and the republicans had to accept it. Now the left has to face the same thing.
🚨 NOW: CHAOS is ensuing as police attempt to push anti-Trump protestors and media away from the DC jail, as detainees are set to be released any moment
— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) January 21, 2025
The protestors WILL NOT succeed!
J6ers will be freed TONIGHT! pic.twitter.com/og9RnsYYuB
Tramp96 said:HTownAg98 said:
What about the ones that either destroyed property or assaulted police officers?
Who assaulted a police officer? I thought the officers opened the door to them? Then you're sadly mistaken, as there are several that were charged with assaulting capital police officers.
Even an "assault" of an officer or destruction of property should be afforded an opportunity for bail. Contrary to the narrative of the left and the MSM, this was not on the same level of 9/11 or Pearl Harbor. they all were afforded that opportunity. Some were given bail, and some were not.
90% of those incarcerated are guilty of nothing more than trespassing. Four years of incarceration, many without a trial, for trespassing.
What about those who have been arrested who never entered the capitol??? They were just there watching and have since been arrested. no problem with those being pardoned.
That's a Stalinist treatment of our citizenry.
I believe they're still gonna get her on something. And Kinzinger and SchiffHubert J. Farnsworth said:
You just know that miserable b***h Liz Cheney is fuming.
They've been in prison for four years. How much longer do you want them to serve?HTownAg98 said:
What about the ones that either destroyed property or assaulted police officers?
That's bull***** They were all not afforded the opportunity for bail. How much longer do they have to serve for you to be OK with it?HTownAg98 said:Tramp96 said:HTownAg98 said:
What about the ones that either destroyed property or assaulted police officers?
Who assaulted a police officer? I thought the officers opened the door to them? Then you're sadly mistaken, as there are several that were charged with assaulting capital police officers.
Even an "assault" of an officer or destruction of property should be afforded an opportunity for bail. Contrary to the narrative of the left and the MSM, this was not on the same level of 9/11 or Pearl Harbor. they all were afforded that opportunity. Some were given bail, and some were not.
90% of those incarcerated are guilty of nothing more than trespassing. Four years of incarceration, many without a trial, for trespassing.
What about those who have been arrested who never entered the capitol??? They were just there watching and have since been arrested. no problem with those being pardoned.
That's a Stalinist treatment of our citizenry.
Hubert J. Farnsworth said:
You just know that miserable b***h Liz Cheney is fuming.
HTownAg98 said:
What about the ones that either destroyed property or assaulted police officers?
This one didn't even make any sense. He wasn't even there.Teslag said:
As said on another thread, Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio is being released as we speak according to his attorney.
Was sentenced to 20 years and wasn't even in Washington on January 6th. This will rage the libs.
HTownAg98 said:
Then they get time served. I'm just glad that you're now concerned about pre-trial incarceration.
annie88 said:That's bull***** They were all not afforded the opportunity for bail. How much longer do they have to serve for you to be OK with it?HTownAg98 said:Tramp96 said:HTownAg98 said:
What about the ones that either destroyed property or assaulted police officers?
Who assaulted a police officer? I thought the officers opened the door to them? Then you're sadly mistaken, as there are several that were charged with assaulting capital police officers.
Even an "assault" of an officer or destruction of property should be afforded an opportunity for bail. Contrary to the narrative of the left and the MSM, this was not on the same level of 9/11 or Pearl Harbor. they all were afforded that opportunity. Some were given bail, and some were not.
90% of those incarcerated are guilty of nothing more than trespassing. Four years of incarceration, many without a trial, for trespassing.
What about those who have been arrested who never entered the capitol??? They were just there watching and have since been arrested. no problem with those being pardoned.
That's a Stalinist treatment of our citizenry.
aginlakeway said:HTownAg98 said:
Then they get time served. I'm just glad that you're now concerned about pre-trial incarceration.
Why were they denied bail?
