Stewart Rhodes founder of Oath Keepers, has been released. He never even set foot inside the Capitol that day.
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dmart90 said:
People that assaulted cops and vandalized the Capital need to stay in jail. The rest have paid their price.
And yes, the people that assaulted cops and vandalized buildings during the Floyd riots need to be in jail, too. Most of that was state crime, so good luck. Federal crimes should all be treated the same (like the federal courthouse that was vandalized)..
For how long? And without bail?
One day at a time.
Mas89 said:No, the Floyd rioters who assaulted police officers and did vandalism and arson could also be charged with a Federal Crime. Plenty of different laws on the books they could use during a riot.dmart90 said:
People that assaulted cops and vandalized the Capital need to stay in jail. The rest have paid their price.
And yes, the people that assaulted cops and vandalized buildings during the Floyd riots need to be in jail, too. Most of that was state crime, so good luck. Federal crimes should all be treated the same (like the federal courthouse that was vandalized)..
And they were not charged. This is why ALL J6 hostages should be released.
There were over 13,000 people arrested during the George Floyd Protests:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Reported_George_Floyd_protest_arrests_as_of_June_6,_2020.svg
While most were charged with misdemeanors and released, several did play stupid enough games to get sent to federal prisons:
https://www.live5news.com/2023/06/07/man-sentenced-arson-during-2020-george-floyd-riot-downtown-charleston/?outputType=amp
https://www.police1.com/george-floyd-protest/articles/man-sentenced-to-4-years-for-minneapolis-police-station-fire-nKd5RboPPFKRy53f/
https://krcgtv.com/amp/news/local/woman-sentenced-for-arson-during-2020-protests-in-st-louis
https://www.justice.gov/usao-mn/pr/illinois-man-sentenced-prison-arson-minneapolis-cell-phone-store-during-summer-2020-civil
https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndtx/pr/man-who-brandished-assault-rifle-black-lives-matter-protest-sentenced-46-months#:~:text=A%20man%20who%20brandished%20an,District%20of%20Texas%20Prerak%20Shah.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/01/27/us/george-floyd-protests-second-lawyer-prison
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/27/americas-protest-crackdown-five-months-after-george-floyd-hundreds-face-trials-and-prison
And released nearly immediately.
Hadn't realized that rule was in force. Absolutely should repeal the `DC Home Rule' ---- major national capitals should reflect their nations, not local politics. Had wondered why it had been allowed to become such a dump and dangerous in places. It gives a misleading impression to the rest of the citizenry and the world.nortex97 said:
WTAF is going on? The communists in DC must really want Trump to focus on them. Maybe it's just 'a process' that takes several days, but maybe not.Quote:
The presidential pardon should lead to the immediate release of those incarcerated. According to one jail employee, the process of releasing individuals following a pardon typically takes several days and is not instantaneous.
Despite the uncertainty, the families and friends outside the detention facility held onto hope. They waited to see if their loved ones would walk out of the jail's doors, marking what they described as a significant victory for justice and reform.Arrest all of the guards now
— Drew Hernandez (@DrewHLive) January 21, 2025
This ends today https://t.co/KVZSRPJtgxIf DC is refusing to release pardoned J6 prisoners, should Congress repeal DC Home Rule—putting Congress back in charge of our capital city, as the Constitution provides?
— Mike Lee (@BasedMikeLee) January 21, 2025Is DC ignoring Trump’s pardons?
— Mike Lee (@BasedMikeLee) January 21, 2025
If this is, then it’s *definitely* time to repeal DC Home Rule
DC’s government has no right to exist constitutionally
Congress shouldn’t have delegated its lawmaking authority over DC
Time to take it back
See Article I, Section 8, Clause 17 https://t.co/nNdQx4sfGO
I see a couple were released finally at around midnight. Free the hostages. Today.
In a way Austin is similar -- doesn't reflect Texas at all come to think of it.
dmart90 said:
People that assaulted cops and vandalized the Capital need to stay in jail. The rest have paid their price.
And yes, the people that assaulted cops and vandalized buildings during the Floyd riots need to be in jail, too. Most of that was state crime, so good luck. Federal crimes should all be treated the same (like the federal courthouse that was vandalized)..
What a stupid post
Was there a 4 year Federal Investigation to identify All of them committing crimes? And to Jail the Leaders of the movement who were not present like they did the J6 hostages?
And do you remember the PALLETS OF BRICKS which were staged at the riots for the Floyd thug rioters to throw at police, vehicles, buildings, and others? Why wasn't this a Federal Crime with 4 year prison sentences?
And do you remember the PALLETS OF BRICKS which were staged at the riots for the Floyd thug rioters to throw at police, vehicles, buildings, and others? Why wasn't this a Federal Crime with 4 year prison sentences?
aginlakeway said:dmart90 said:
People that assaulted cops and vandalized the Capital need to stay in jail. The rest have paid their price.
And yes, the people that assaulted cops and vandalized buildings during the Floyd riots need to be in jail, too. Most of that was state crime, so good luck. Federal crimes should all be treated the same (like the federal courthouse that was vandalized)..
For how long? And without bail?
Depends on each individual case. A person with violent priors and a flight risk will be viewed differently than someone with no priors and a willingness to comply with bail conditions.
Mas89 said:
Was there a 4 year Federal Investigation to identify All of them committing crimes? And to Jail the Leaders of the movement who were not present like they did the J6 hostages?
Oh, so you're moving goalposts now? you said before none of the Floyd protestors were "charged" - do you want to go re-read your post? That is what I was responding to.
That is a sweeping statement in general but completely missing the mark on the vast majority of Jan 6ers. Not remotely what happened with them.Quote:
Depends on each individual case. A person with violent priors and a flight risk will be viewed differently than someone with no priors and a willingness to comply with bail conditions.
I'm no expert. Maybe a few out of Thousands. Where is your skate board Mo Fo?
HTownAg98 said:aginlakeway said:dmart90 said:
People that assaulted cops and vandalized the Capital need to stay in jail. The rest have paid their price.
And yes, the people that assaulted cops and vandalized buildings during the Floyd riots need to be in jail, too. Most of that was state crime, so good luck. Federal crimes should all be treated the same (like the federal courthouse that was vandalized)..
For how long? And without bail?
Depends on each individual case. A person with violent priors and a flight risk will be viewed differently than someone with no priors and a willingness to comply with bail conditions.
How many does that include? Are you reading aggiehawg's posts? They're very accurate.
One day at a time.
Disparate treatment under the law is a problem.
Well, this about sums it all up.
Raskin accepted his pardon which was completely unwarranted.
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Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-Md.), a former member of the Jan. 6 committee, sought to distinguish between the pardon he received from former President Biden compared to those President Trump gave to those who stormed the Capitol.
Just hours apart, both Biden and Trump issued a number of pardons. An order from Biden gave a preemptive pardon to all nine members of the panel that investigated the attack on the Capitol, while Trump, through a series of pardons and commutations, cleared the slate for the more than 1,500 people being prosecuted for the attack.
"Look, the people who were pardoned the morning were pardoned because we were innocent, and Donald Trump was threatening [Former Rep.] Liz Cheney [(R-Wyo.)] and [Rep.] Bennie Thompson [(D-Miss.)] and others with fraudulent political prosecutions," Raskin said during an appearance on CNN, referring to the former leaders of the Jan. 6 committee.
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"The people who were just pardoned a little while ago, were pardoned because they were guilty of us violently assaulting police officers carrying dangerous weapons inside the Capitol, destroying federal property and so on, and it was just a mass pardon for all of them, without even looking to see whether those people were rehabilitated and Whether they continue to pose a threat to public safety."
Raskin stressed that pardons are typically given to those who faced issues with their prosecutions, were given unusually harsh sentences, or have demonstrated remorse or reform during their time in prison.
"Why were they being pardoned? That's my question. In other words, were they innocent? Nobody's asserting that. Were they denied due process? No one's asserting that. So are they reformed and rehabilitated and no longer a threat to democracy, no longer a threat to society?" Raskin asked.
Raskin accepted his pardon which was completely unwarranted.
What about the ones of those who were on the government payroll?dmart90 said:
People that assaulted cops and vandalized the Capital need to stay in jail.
Raskin is right. The pardons are different. He is actually guilty of partaking in a conspiracy against American citizens. The J6 protestors are not.Quote:
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Raskin accepted his pardon which was completely unwarranted.
True.Ellis Wyatt said:Raskin is right. The pardons are different. He is actually guilty of partaking in a conspiracy against American citizens. The J6 protestors are not.Quote:
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Raskin accepted his pardon which was completely unwarranted.
Enrique is out.
For more people being released go HERE
My son has is being released!!!!
— Zuny Tarrio (@ZunyTarrio) January 20, 2025
Omg! Lord thank you!!!
TARRIO IS FREE!!!
For more people being released go HERE
Doesn't matter anyway since prosecutorial immunity is a thing.Psycho Bunny said:ttu_85 said:Now Phase II arrest those that clearly violated their constitutional rights.jeremiahjt said:
And six commutations who could get a full pardon later.
Cant, they were issued pardons
Edit: can not spell on this phone. lol
So is malicious prosecution.Quote:
Doesn't matter anyway since prosecutorial immunity is a thing.
Trump also ordered an investigation into abuses at DoJ:
This is excellent.
🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨 Trump just turned the tables on the DOJ. He’s now directing his government to investigate the DOJ for their misconduct related to J6 persecutions. pic.twitter.com/UvcZOYdvNK
— Marina Medvin 🇺🇸 (@MarinaMedvin) January 21, 2025
This is excellent.
Been seeing some people say some prisoners aren't being released? That true?
Yukon Cornelius said:
Been seeing some people say some prisoners aren't being released? That true?
If that is true Trump should send in hostage rescue teams to free them from their captors
Were any of them held for 4 years with no bail and no trial? How many were released in under four years?unmade bed said:Mas89 said:No, the Floyd rioters who assaulted police officers and did vandalism and arson could also be charged with a Federal Crime. Plenty of different laws on the books they could use during a riot.dmart90 said:
People that assaulted cops and vandalized the Capital need to stay in jail. The rest have paid their price.
And yes, the people that assaulted cops and vandalized buildings during the Floyd riots need to be in jail, too. Most of that was state crime, so good luck. Federal crimes should all be treated the same (like the federal courthouse that was vandalized)..
And they were not charged. This is why ALL J6 hostages should be released.
There were over 13,000 people arrested during the George Floyd Protests:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Reported_George_Floyd_protest_arrests_as_of_June_6,_2020.svg
While most were charged with misdemeanors and released, several did play stupid enough games to get sent to federal prisons:
https://www.live5news.com/2023/06/07/man-sentenced-arson-during-2020-george-floyd-riot-downtown-charleston/?outputType=amp
https://www.police1.com/george-floyd-protest/articles/man-sentenced-to-4-years-for-minneapolis-police-station-fire-nKd5RboPPFKRy53f/
https://krcgtv.com/amp/news/local/woman-sentenced-for-arson-during-2020-protests-in-st-louis
https://www.justice.gov/usao-mn/pr/illinois-man-sentenced-prison-arson-minneapolis-cell-phone-store-during-summer-2020-civil
https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndtx/pr/man-who-brandished-assault-rifle-black-lives-matter-protest-sentenced-46-months#:~:text=A%20man%20who%20brandished%20an,District%20of%20Texas%20Prerak%20Shah.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/01/27/us/george-floyd-protests-second-lawyer-prison
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/27/americas-protest-crackdown-five-months-after-george-floyd-hundreds-face-trials-and-prison
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
Concern noted. SYGL.HTownAg98 said:
Then they get time served. I'm just glad that you're now concerned about pre-trial incarceration.
I have to say CM liberal tears make my day on this thread...The gloves are off democrats started Trump will finish it we are never going back to civility released all J6ers put DC government in jail and anyone who gets in the way.
You are full of it, delusional and a major part of the problem. Denial of bail is not an opportunity especially when the marxists control the DC courts and are actively trying to destroy America.HTownAg98 said:annie88 said:That's bull***** They were all not afforded the opportunity for bail. How much longer do they have to serve for you to be OK with it?HTownAg98 said:Tramp96 said:HTownAg98 said:
What about the ones that either destroyed property or assaulted police officers?
Who assaulted a police officer? I thought the officers opened the door to them? Then you're sadly mistaken, as there are several that were charged with assaulting capital police officers.
Even an "assault" of an officer or destruction of property should be afforded an opportunity for bail. Contrary to the narrative of the left and the MSM, this was not on the same level of 9/11 or Pearl Harbor. they all were afforded that opportunity. Some were given bail, and some were not.
90% of those incarcerated are guilty of nothing more than trespassing. Four years of incarceration, many without a trial, for trespassing.
What about those who have been arrested who never entered the capitol??? They were just there watching and have since been arrested. no problem with those being pardoned.
That's a Stalinist treatment of our citizenry.
You're full of ***** Every one of them was afforded a bail hearing. It's one of the very first things that's done in a case. No one sitting in jail for four years hasn't had a bail hearing. Whether they were properly denied bail is another issue.
When will it be enough "punishment" for those present at the Capitol that day?
Financially ruined, lost time with families, imprisoned for years often under horrible conditions. Isn't that enough?
Financially ruined, lost time with families, imprisoned for years often under horrible conditions. Isn't that enough?
You can understand how some of the political prisoners were denied basic necessities and treated inhumanely. These people are just a step down from Nazis. They believe they're morally right, so they dehumanize the "insurrectionists." Like Byrd murdering that woman and then being protected from prosecution. It's sick.nortex97 said:Arrest all of the guards now
— Drew Hernandez (@DrewHLive) January 21, 2025
This ends today https://t.co/KVZSRPJtgx
HTownAg98 said:aginlakeway said:dmart90 said:
People that assaulted cops and vandalized the Capital need to stay in jail. The rest have paid their price.
And yes, the people that assaulted cops and vandalized buildings during the Floyd riots need to be in jail, too. Most of that was state crime, so good luck. Federal crimes should all be treated the same (like the federal courthouse that was vandalized)..
For how long? And without bail?
Depends on each individual case. A person with violent priors and a flight risk will be viewed differently than someone with no priors and a willingness to comply with bail conditions.
Explain what happened to Chris Kuehne. And be honorable and quit defending the indefensible.
https://medvinlaw.com/christopher-kuehne-january-6-case-explained/
You're embarrassing you miserable little statist.HTownAg98 said:annie88 said:
https://nypost.com/2023/03/08/an-egregious-denial-of-due-process-for-jan-6-protesters/
It's really disgusting that you're defending this bull***** I hope to God nothing like this ever happens to you.
Trump was right when he called them hostages that's exactly what they have been.
Every single one of them should be released. Period.
I'm embarrassed for you.
I'm embarrassed for you that you think people that assaulted law enforcement officers should be released carte blanche.
The actions of the Biden administration in going after these people were egregious enough. But giving pardons to the J6 committee essentially tainted the prosecutions of everyone charged for the events on J6 and due to that they are owed a blanket pardon. This all needs to end...now.
Libs think they're never wrong.
I was against the violent offenders getting a pardon, but this is a very astute observation:
I'm Gipper
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But giving pardons to the J6 committee essentially tainted the prosecutions of everyone charged for the events on J6 and due to that they are owed a blanket pardon. This all needs to end...now.
I'm Gipper
So much this. That committee destroyed evidence, likely exculpatory evidence, thus tampering with evidence, obstruction of justice. Actual crimes, not some convoluted interpretation of Sarbanes-Oxley financial statute.javajaws said:
The actions of the Biden administration in going after these people were egregious enough. But giving pardons to the J6 committee essentially tainted the prosecutions of everyone charged for the events on J6 and due to that they are owed a blanket pardon. This all needs to end...now.
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