txwxman said:

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aggiehawg said:

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tsuag10 said:

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Question here that will probably get me flamed:

Isn't it reasonable for us to say that this large, sweeping pardon for all J6rs is a little bit concerning since there are some of these guys who actually were violent?

I'm fully aware that 99% of these people should never have been jailed, but did Trump's pardons include the actual guys who were involved in violence? Forgive me if this has already been discussed.

FWIW, I fully support the idea of pardoning the J6rs, I'm asking about these certain individuals.

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I used to feel that way until I saw the footage. Even the cops knew they had been set up by leadership. They knew that shooting into the crowd was only going to inflame the crowd even more.

Guy climbing up the side of huge wall to the terrace. Yes he shouldn't have been there. Cop could have just grabbed him, pulled him over the railing and arrested him. But what did that officer do?

Pushed him off, to fall straight down over thirty feet on his back. That cop was surrounded by other cops. One guy could have been taken down, hands zip tied behind his back, ankles tied together and placed aside.

There was a reason there were several cop suicides among those there in the weeks that followed. They knew what they did was wrong.

Every fatality and 99% of the injuries* that day were to people at the Capitol and not cops.

*Not to say the cops suffered no injuries, just that many of those were self-inflicted. They could not tell the direction of the wind and that shooting tear gas canisters would blow right back at them. Also set off tear gas canisters by accident within their own positions. Truly Keystone Cops crap.

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Cool victim blaming story. The law and order image never fit the right anyway.

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Uhh

Sounds like Jackson has, or will be getting a well deserved spanking.

Duckhook said:

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backintexas2013 said:

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Actually it wasn't a house. You should be ok with shooting a trespasser who climbs through a broken window at a store too. Also trespassing is trespassing. Shooting the kid that break into a garage to steal beer like the guy in Michigan should be ok too.

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Well, it sure wasn't her house. Yeah, yeah, go ahead with the "people's house" deflection.

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I used to think we had a justice system. In fact, we have on-site judges like Byrd who can mete out the justice they deem appropriate.

Byrd believed execution was appropriate for a peaceful protestor, so she FO. And he didn't even face a grand jury. That's democrat America. A true paradise for The People.

And he was then promoted, lionized on a national news program, and pardoned.

Just flew DFW to Miami. One of the Proud Boy Jan 6 guys was on the flight. Had 3 air marshals. TSA checking IDs and boarding passes on the ramp. Tons of reporters and cameras when we deplaned in Miami. What a ****show lol

This dude

D.C. judges are losing their collective **** over the pardons. Issuing dismissal orders with lengthy screeds about how bad the defendants were and how wrong Trump was to pardon them.

ThunderCougarFalconBird said:

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D.C. judges are losing their collective **** over the pardons. Issuing dismissal orders with lengthy screeds about how bad the defendants were and how wrong Trump was to pardon them.

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I learned a lot about judges when following the cases against Trump. ****em.

DC JUDGES ACTING REALLY BADLY:

Hoy sh*t. This gem from former chief judge Beryl Howell, an unabashed Trump hater, who denied part of new DC US atty motion to dismiss J6 indictment following Pres Trump's pardon. She calls the president's pardon proclamation "flatly wrong."

When…

— Julie Kelly 🇺🇸 (@julie_kelly2) January 22, 2025

This is just a tiny representation of how these judges handle J6 matters. Hey @WSJopinion tell us again how everything was on the up and up in these prosecutions

— Julie Kelly 🇺🇸 (@julie_kelly2) January 22, 2025

DC JUDGES ACTING REALLY BADLY:

Hoy sh*t. This gem from former chief judge Beryl Howell, an unabashed Trump hater, who denied part of new DC US atty motion to dismiss J6 indictment following Pres Trump's pardon. She calls the president's pardon proclamation "flatly wrong."

When you see someone claiming these proceedings were fair and impartial, present this tirade to them.

Long past time to impeach this desperate, bitter hag.

"The only reason provided for this instruction, as set out in the [President's] Proclamation's introduction, is the assertion that this action 'ends a grave national injustice that has been perpetrated upon the American people over the last four years and begins a process of national reconciliation.

No 'national injustice' occurred here, just as no outcome-determinative election fraud occurred in the 2020 presidential election. No "process of national reconciliation" can begin when poor losers, whose preferred candidate loses an election, are glorified for disrupting a constitutionally mandated proceeding in Congress and doing so with impunity. That merely raises the dangerous specter of future lawless conduct by other poor losers and undermines the rule of law.

Yet, this presidential pronouncement of a 'national injustice' is the sole justification provided in the government's motion to dismiss the pending indictment.

Having presided over scores of criminal cases charging defendants for their criminal conduct both outside and inside the U.S. Capitol Building on January 6, 2021, which charges were fully supported by evidence in the form of extensive videotapes and photographs, admissions by defendants in the course of plea hearings and in testimony at trials, and the testimony of law enforcement officers and congressional staff present at the Capitol on that day, this Court cannot let stand the revisionist myth relayed in this presidential pronouncement.

The prosecutions in this case and others charging defendants for their criminal conduct at the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021, present no injustice, but instead reflect the diligent work of conscientious public servants, including prosecutors and law enforcement officials, and dedicated defense attorneys, to defend our democracy and rights and preserve our long tradition of peaceful transfers of powerwhich, until January 6, 2021, served as a model to the worldall while affording those charged every protection guaranteed by our Constitution and the criminal justice system.

As to these two defendants specifically, both admitted their criminal conduct under oath, after consultation with their attorneys, and pursuant to plea agreements to which they agreed. Bluntly put, the assertion offered in the presidential pronouncement for the pending motion to dismiss is flatly wrong."

She dismissed without prejudice instead of with prejudice as DOJ asked.

Kelly has NOT signed the new DC US atty motion to dismiss the case. Kelly undoubtedly working up a lather to write some unhinged order dismissing the case. pic.twitter.com/Z0rXBVb92R

— Julie Kelly 🇺🇸 (@julie_kelly2) January 22, 2025

will25u said:

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BREAKING: Rep. Lauren Boebert has invited all of the pardoned January 6ers on a guided tour of the U.S. Capitol.

— Leading Report (@LeadingReport) January 22, 2025

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Now that's funny.

MORE DC JUDGES BEHAVING BADLY

This time it's the notorious Tanya C. (Chutkan)

"No pardon can change the tragic truth of what happened on January 6, 2021. On that day, 'a mob professing support for then-President Trump violently attacked the United States Capitol' to stop the…

— Julie Kelly 🇺🇸 (@julie_kelly2) January 22, 2025

MORE DC JUDGES BEHAVING BADLY

The unhinged Reggie Walton, who routinely berates J6ers in court even those accused of no violent crime and who called Pres Trump a "charlatan," adds an unnecessary footnote to his order dismissing case against a J6er. pic.twitter.com/lGq82EdLBi

— Julie Kelly 🇺🇸 (@julie_kelly2) January 22, 2025

THE DAY BEFORE INAUGURATION DAY, the acting DC US attorney filed a sentencing memo asked for 52 months for this defendant.

Thanks to President Trump, he is now free. pic.twitter.com/EnMNzv0Xpc

— Julie Kelly 🇺🇸 (@julie_kelly2) January 22, 2025

BREAKING: Rep. Lauren Boebert has invited all of the pardoned January 6ers on a guided tour of the U.S. Capitol.

I'd let them give me a tour of just about anything if I just got out of prison. 🤣 pic.twitter.com/Z4CWmQMNUN

— Recall Katie Hobbs (@AmericanHubener) January 23, 2025

Wow.

Yet cm on here disparage MGT all the time

aginlakeway said:

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Wow.

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Yep. She nailed it. I really hate the media and have for decades.

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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You just know that miserable b***h Liz Cheney is fuming.

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please let that ol witch's cold heart fail.

It's funny watching the left throw fits over pardons after not blinking an eye about Biden doing it.

backintexas2013 said:

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It's funny watching the left throw fits over pardons after not blinking an eye about Biden doing it.

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Let them, the data is clear that most Americans dont care about J6. The Dems thought the propganda would work.

I'm far from left, but this is BS for anyone that committed physical harm on security and police

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/donald-trump-pardons-jan-6-capitol-rioters-police-gop-258a4a6e?st=LhA469&reflink=article_copyURL_share

You spray wasp killer in a cop's face, you taser a cop, you pepper spray a cop, you punch a cop, you do your time.

How much time? And compare it to the hard criminals the left let completely off.

Since you won't click the link,



I care not what the Left does. Be better.

So you think all the J6 folks were treated justly?
I care what the left does. It's a two way street.
Be better.

RangerRick9211 said:

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Since you won't click the link,



I care not what the Left does. Be better.

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Do you have info on what they did to cops during the summer of love? If not, sit down and be quiet for awhile. They are not the same as you'll find.

The white guilt crowd who loves avocado toast and Starbucks are really upset about this. That tells me it was a good thing.

ShaggySLC said:

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RangerRick9211 said:

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Since you won't click the link,



I care not what the Left does. Be better.

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Do you have info on what they did to cops during the summer of love? If not, sit down and be quiet for awhile. They are not the same as you'll find.

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Lol, nah.

If you attack those who protect and serve, you get what's coming.

They are the same, as you'll find.

Burning down entire buildings during the summer of love? Zero time.

Spraying pepper spray near cops after cops started hitting the crowd with gas and rubber bullets? 30 months of solitary.

Things don't add up if the system is supposed to be equal and blind.

The politicization of the "insurrection" and "sedition" lies was overplayed and those political prisoner pawns needed to be let out so the country can move on from four years ago. Zero shots fired and zero cops killed. Lies upon lies by Pravda to the masses about that day. With all the inciting fbi and antifa plants in that crowd, the ignored and destroyed evidence, the phony show trial committee, etc., enough was enough. The worst offenders who punched a cop did time already.