Bigger enemy? China or these guys

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Krombopulos Michael
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I don't remember China ever stating "We'd own nothing and be happy"
nortex97
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That guy, club of Rome types, Soros, etc. are bigger threats to the US than China.
halfastros81
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Yeah, that's the way commies roll. You have the right to free speech as long as it sync's up with the party line.

Xi undoubtedly would love us to adopt WEF policy -which we have been doing - because it weakens US sovereignty and influence. Why wouldn't he?

Heritage foundation guy had it right. We need to categorically reject everything out of the WEF.
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titan said:


Those guys are a greater threat to civilization, they want to regress it. China is a more standard threat like the Cold War (which is not to say easy) and previous experience.


You're underestimating China. They have long game they are playing, we don't, and they have us lured in...

During the actual Cold War - we had a clear objective. That is not the case with China and that is to their advantage.
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oh no said:

The Persians are wonderful people and they were such good allies with the US and our crude interests until their revolution in 1979. We have replaced them with the Saudis since then and they seem sneakier. We shouldn't need either one with our own resources. I think we've erred strategically with Russia since the fall of the USSR as well. We continue to threaten and bait them and surround them or close in on them, when really, a prosperous, gas-exporting, west-aligned post-communist Russia would have been much better for the world. Instead, we drive them closer and closer in alliance with the real threats: China and Iran.
THAT. But the error comes from the fact the neocons are stuck in the Cold War and wanting its power perks, as much as the Progressives are stuck in the Civil Rights era wanting the power perks of greivance politics to go on and one -- both groups are dragging the 21st Century's potential down with their regressive dysfunction and self-serving greed.

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Logos Stick said:

Threats in order:

White liberals
WEF/Soros (two sides of the same coin )
China
This !!!!!
pinche gringo
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Excellent posts!
titan
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dmart90 said:

titan said:


Those guys are a greater threat to civilization, they want to regress it. China is a more standard threat like the Cold War (which is not to say easy) and previous experience.


You're underestimating China. They have long game they are playing, we don't, and they have us lured in...

During the actual Cold War - we had a clear objective. That is not the case with China and that is to their advantage.
No I am not underestimating them. But a strong nationally knit together and militarized tone U.S. (McKinley-Teddy era, FDR, Reagan) eras U.S. can overcome them as we did the Soviets. But this regression of civilization and technology and imposing `Elysium' style agenda of Davos and wokeism elevating non Western cultures can destroy us and was doing so.

China can't overcome a fully mobilized and properly swaggering America. Only the feminized and enfeebled one the Regressives were nurturing (also along WEF and Club of Rome lines) Especially if that America has also allied with Russia.

Krombopulos Michael
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Give it a listen. She's laying out what is taking place globally. And knows her side is screwed.





The big picture is starting to come into focus.......


titan
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This kind of stuff is a greater threat than China. Soros's attitudes, which mirror Schaub's and the WEF's. Just watch what Kennedy says.



Soros:
"United States is the main obstacle to a stable and just world"

"China has a better functioning government than the U.S.A. "

"National borders are an obstacle to widespread immigrant re-settlement"

Confronting China in a replay as the Russia role in a Cold War is much more manageable than such internal subversion.

Besides, with some really adept diplomacy, its not written in stone China has to be an enemy. But this kind of regressive globalism is.

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EX TEXASEX said:

Logos Stick said:

Threats in order:

White liberals
WEF/Soros (two sides of the same coin )
China
This !!!!!
Man, this is a great thread. Krombopulos, titan, logos stick and above are just killing it. Resetting our foreign policy, and aid, around American goals and ending our stupid war(s) makes a lot of sense as Trump discussed yesterday (so did Putin, fwiw).

Domestically as well of course vs. WEF/Soros goals and his chess pieces/traitors here, but this will allow us to take on China from a stronger position when Trump goes (back) to Beijing.



The first thing I'd hope he accomplishes is convincing the Chinese to stop flooding the US with fentanyl. That alone would be enormously beneficial of course to the country. Trade, (prevention of) war over Taiwan etc. all that can also be worked out from there.
RE: Europe, the EU is functionally led by abject morons, unlike the above folks (US, China, Russia) and will be comparatively easy to deal with, imho, bravado aside.

Krombopulos Michael
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When all the Euro Banks fail in a couple weeks/months, we are going to take Greenland as collateral to recapitalize their system. Same with Canada.


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It is hard to fight external enemies when your body is filled with a stage 4 cancer. To fight external enemies with the biggest FAR AND AWAY being CHINA BY A COUNTRY MILE. We have tp actively put into remission and then kill the cancer that has run unchecked for decades, Marxism!!! All the cancer that has metastasized has mainly been through two things. The educational system and The Media. Trump needs to go after these 24/7 and expose these frauds and then permanently kneecap them !!!
Krombopulos Michael
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this should be good for a sound byte or two...



Quote:

The world will be listening closely for any details on his pledge to introduce universal tariffs on goods imported to the U.S., and for his position on major geopolitical and economic issues such as the Ukraine-Russia war, the future of Israeli-Palestinian relations and America's economic rivalry with China.

Trump has openly criticized the diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) and environmental, social, and governance (ESG) initiatives championed by the WEF.

During his first term, Trump traveled to Davos twice, in 2018 and 2020, to attend the WEF meetings.
In his keynote address in 2020, he touted his protectionist trade policies and the United States' position as the world's largest oil and gas producer.

He also expressed concerns about NATO's heavy dependence on the United States, urging member nations to increase their contributions to defense spending.

In recent years, however, the forum has increasingly faced criticism, with questions raised regarding the usefulness of its debates in resolving the struggles of regular people.
Watch Trump's speech here (due to start at 1100ET):


https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/watch-live-president-trump-addresses-wef-globalists-davos
[url=https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/watch-live-president-trump-addresses-wef-globalists-davos][/url]

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Krombopulos Michael said:



Ever wonder why the executive orders Trump is signing/talked about are geared at destroying the WEF agenda and rarely if ever mentions China?


- Pulling out of Paris Climate Change
- Drill baby drill
- Slowing EV adoption
- Woke/DEI dead
- Closing borders to immigrants
- Restoring free speech
etc.


China might be a threat in some regards but the WEF / EU / Old European legacy family money are the real *******s trying to destroy this country......




If somehow all of the Rothschild wealth could be confiscated legally and used to lower the US debt, OR used to make reparations payments to families who lost loved ones in their conjured up wars.
Krombopulos Michael
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I'm not a Trump supporter but damn, Teabagging this crowd is glorious.



Krombopulos Michael
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Notice any difference here?





Krombopulos Michael
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We've got a front row seat to a daily blow by blow fight.


What are these tweets about???? = Centralization vs. De-centralization / free market choices vs. govt one size fits all / 400 year reign of European old money families (aka "Royalty") vs those damn rebellious Americans thinking it's 1776 again.


No one is backing down.


This is going to get bloody (figuratively of course).....






Krombopulos Michael
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This is like one of those magic eye things you saw in malls back in the day.....


The picture should be coming into focus for most of you by now.









El Gallo Blanco
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In all seriousness though. Some of these people need to be made examples of.
Krombopulos Michael
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It's rough out there, even billionaires need USAID....


WolfCall
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titan said:


Those guys are a greater threat to civilization, they want to regress it. China is a more standard threat like the Cold War (which is not to say easy) and previous experience.


^This +1
Krombopulos Michael
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Tom is on fire with this one.....


15 to 20 min mark is where the rubber meets the road. He explains what is going on with our currency and situation.

Hint: the EU/London have never been our friends.

Well worth the full listen.

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halfastros81 said:

They both are a serious threat imo. WEF has a lot of influential " Americans" On board with them and the biggest threat could very well be from within .


To me the WEF and Chy-Na are the same. They both push the same destroy the West and the middle class agenda
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Old May Banker
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Bigger threat?

In many ways, they're one and the same.
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titan said:

oh no said:

The Persians are wonderful people and they were such good allies with the US and our crude interests until their revolution in 1979. We have replaced them with the Saudis since then and they seem sneakier. We shouldn't need either one with our own resources. I think we've erred strategically with Russia since the fall of the USSR as well. We continue to threaten and bait them and surround them or close in on them, when really, a prosperous, gas-exporting, west-aligned post-communist Russia would have been much better for the world. Instead, we drive them closer and closer in alliance with the real threats: China and Iran.
THAT. But the error comes from the fact the neocons are stuck in the Cold War and wanting its power perks, as much as the Progressives are stuck in the Civil Rights era wanting the power perks of greivance politics to go on and one -- both groups are dragging the 21st Century's potential down with their regressive dysfunction and self-serving greed.




Spot on Titan. I had not considered the Cold War attitude hold over but it makes sense
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oh no said:

The Persians are wonderful people and they were such good allies with the US and our crude interests until their revolution in 1979. We have replaced them with the Saudis since then and they seem sneakier. We shouldn't need either one with our own resources. I think we've erred strategically with Russia since the fall of the USSR as well. We continue to threaten and bait them and surround them or close in on them, when really, a prosperous, gas-exporting, west-aligned post-communist Russia would have been much better for the world. Instead, we drive them closer and closer in alliance with the real threats: China and Iran.
This. The neo-cons in the 90s refused to bring Russia into the western sphere. Instead they continue trying to grind them into dust.
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They aren't the same but they both want the same thing, major reduction in power and influence of the USA, and they both want to benefit by gaining power and influence that the USA would theoretically lose.

Xi will damned sure never willingly cede any power or influence to the WEF. Of that I am sure but he'd love to see us do so which we have been .
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the picture should be really clear for everyone now....
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I think the past three years has shown that Russia isn't capable of taking over all of Europe IF Europe is willing to spend the money to defend themselves. I'm not at all convinced they are, though. Their social programs are too entrenched and too expensive to carve out sufficient resources for defense. They've relied on us for way too long. They're effectively colonies of the U.S. though they don't pay any taxes to the homeland. This is the world we built post WWII so I'm not surprised we're here but it does need to change. What European leaders need to understand is that if we are providing their defense then it actually is up to us what the terms of a cease fire are.
A fearful society is a compliant society. That's why Democrats and criminals prefer their victims to be unarmed. Gun Control is not about guns, it's about control.
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The "Zelensky fan-boy BLOW UP THE BRIGDE" crowd is going to love this......

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MAGA is trouncing the Euro-Trash Oligarchs who want complete control over humanity in a Neo-feudalist technocracy.....
Krombopulos Michael
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You can just feel the desperation in this photo.....Notice the Little Green Man wasn't invited.




And here is one of the main reasons why they are sooooooo desperate.

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China has taken the long view to weaken American society, and our Uni-party turns a blind eye because the bucks keep coming. They covertly subsidize fentanyl ingredients to the cartels, focused on destabilizing cities. The TikTok bombardment has spayed or neutered 10% of our military age population. We are 100% dependent on China and India for antibiotics, vaccines, and most medications. They own a tremendous amount of our debt (paid by enormous trade deficits). The tariffs are a bandaid. Until we forcibly extract medical and military manufacturing away from China and back to friendly countries we are completely under their control. A real plan to keep Taiwanese chip manufacturing and American owned Chinese factories from contributing to their post-invasion assessment of Taiwan (they have to know that we have self destruction methods in place) is also crucial.
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