RFK Jr confirmation update?

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"I will make it my personal mission that you lose your seats in the Senate if you vote against the future health of America's children."

"To senators Mitch McConnell, Lindsey Graham, Lisa Murkowski, Susan Collins, Bill Cassidy, Thom Tillis, James Lankford, Cory Booker, John Fetterman, Bernie Sanders, and Catherine Cortez Masto..."

"This is a bipartisan message and it comes directly from me. While Bobby may be willing to play nice, I won't if you vote against him."

"I will personally fund challengers to primary you in your next election, and I will enlist hundreds of thousands to join me."



What do the oddsmakers think about this confirmation?
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Interesting. She directly played a role in the two Democrat Georgia Senators winning in 2020 (beyond the documented shenanigans, that is since the water leak was false) --- yet now is telling those same two Democrat Senators they better vote for RFK or she will fund against them. Same for the usual GOP "wobblies".

Hmmm. Can't help but like the "bipartisan warning" of her zeal.
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Good for her!
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That's conflict of interest is interesting if true. His contradictory behavior going into Jan 6 2021 is making a little more sense.
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Maybe RFK,Jr works out maybe he doesn't but every square inch of our Fed government needs a massive shakeup and rebuild. He will be perfect in that role, at least to start it off.

His opposition is 99% due to the hundreds of billions of dollars at stake. It's laughable listening to so many folks being concerned about XYZ when you have that knowledge.

The experience and capabilities of Trump's picks compared to FJB's absolute DEI clown-level commies is ….not comparable.
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If you think just a few US Senators might be corrupt or corrupt-able (I think just about all of them are), and you consider the volume of dollars from big pharma against RFK or from military industrial complex and security state against Tulsi, how can they get confirmed? And if they do get confirmed, are they themselves corrupt-able? Or is everyone working for them susceptible to stall or subvert their efforts? The swamp is so deep, but good luck and Godspeed to them.
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The way I know RFK Jr is a good choice is that all the right pigs are squealing.
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RFKJ's hardline stance on Fructose is getting huge pushback from the politicians who the commercial farming industry pays off because Fructose is a multi billion dollar industry and at the root of the obesity epidemic in America. Fructose is a bigger industry than big pharmaceutical, who also has issues with RFKJr. Two of the biggest money lobbying groups are hell bent on keeping him out.
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Jack Squat 83 said:

Maybe RFK,Jr works out maybe he doesn't but every square inch of our Fed government needs a massive shakeup and rebuild. He will be perfect in that role, at least to start it off.

His opposition is 99% due to the hundreds of billions of dollars at stake. It's laughable listening to so many folks being concerned about XYZ when you have that knowledge.

The experience and capabilities of Trump's picks compared to FJB's absolute DEI clown-level commies is ….not comparable.
Change for the sake of change is not a viable solution.
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Thunderstormr said:

Jack Squat 83 said:

Maybe RFK,Jr works out maybe he doesn't but every square inch of our Fed government needs a massive shakeup and rebuild. He will be perfect in that role, at least to start it off.

His opposition is 99% due to the hundreds of billions of dollars at stake. It's laughable listening to so many folks being concerned about XYZ when you have that knowledge.

The experience and capabilities of Trump's picks compared to FJB's absolute DEI clown-level commies is ….not comparable.
Change for the sake of change is not a viable solution.


So is insanity. Doing the same thing we have always done and expecting different and better results.

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There are plenty of conservatives who could fill that role... RFK Jr shouldn't be allowed to be within 2 miles of a Republican administration.
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Caroline Kennedy sent a letter on her views on RFK's nomination to Senators and posted a video of her reading that same letter. It's pretty scathing.


https://katiecouric.com/news/politics-and-policy/caroline-kennedy-letter-rfk-jr/

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Throughout the past year, people have asked for my thoughts about my cousin, Robert Kennedy, Jr. and his presidential campaign.

I did not comment, not only because I was serving in a government position as United States Ambassador to Australia, but because I have never wanted to speak publicly about my family members and their challenges. We are a close generation of 28 cousins who have been through a lot together. We know how hard it has been, and we are always there for each other.

But now that Bobby has been nominated by President Trump to be Secretary of Health and Human Services, a position that would put him in charge of the health of the American people, I feel an obligation to speak out.

Overseeing the FDA, the NIH, the CDC, and the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services agencies that are charged with protecting the most vulnerable among us is an enormous responsibility, and one that Bobby is unqualified to fill. He lacks any relevant government, financial, management, or medical experience. His views on vaccines are dangerous and willfully misinformed. These facts alone should be disqualifying. But he has personal qualities related to this position which, for me, post even greater concern.

I have known Bobby my whole life; we grew up together. It's no surprise that he keeps birds of prey as pets because he himself is a predator. He has always been charismatic able to attract others through the strength of his personality, willingness to take risks and break the rules. I watched his younger brothers and cousins follow him down the path of drug addiction. His basement, his garage, and his dorm room were the centers of the action where drugs were available, and he enjoyed showing off how he put baby chickens and mice in the blender to feed his hawks. It was often a perverse scene of despair and violence.

Of course, people can grow and change. Through his own strength and the many second chances he was given by people who felt sorry for the boy who had lost his father Bobby was able to pull himself out of illness and disease. I admire the discipline that took and the continuing commitment it requires.

But siblings and cousins who Bobby encouraged down the path of substance abused suffered addiction, illness, and death while Bobby has gone to to misrepresent, lie, and cheat his way through life. Today, while he may encourage a younger generation to attend AA meetings, Bobby is addicted to attention and power. Bobby preys on the desperation of parents and sick children vaccinating his own children while building a following by hypocritically discouraging other parents from vaccinating theirs. Even before he fills this job, his constant denigration of our health care system and the conspiratorial half-truths he has told about vaccines, including in connection with Samoa's deadly 2019 measles outbreak, have cost lives.

And now we know that Bobby's crusade against vaccination has benefited him in other ways, too. His ethics report makes clear that he will keep his financial stake in a lawsuit against an HPV vaccine. In other words, he is willing to enrich himself by denying access to a vaccine that can prevent almost all forms of cervical cancer and which has been safely administered to millions of boys and girls. During my time in Australia working on the QUAD Cancer Moonshot, I learned that cervical cancer is among the top three forms of cancer among women in a majority of countries. Tragically every year, more than 200,000 children lose their mothers, orphaned due to a lack of vaccines and screening. These are the real-world consequences of Bobby's irresponsible beliefs.

We are a close family and none of this is easy to say. It also wasn't easy to remain silent last year when Bobby expropriated my father's image and distorted President Kennedy's legacy to advance his own failed presidential campaign and then groveled to Donald Trump for a job. Bobby continues to grandstand off my father's assassination, and that of his own father. It is incomprehensible that someone who is willing to exploit their own painful family tragedies for publicity would be in charge of American life-and-death situations.

Unlike Bobby, I try not to speak for my father but I am certain that he and my Uncle Bobby, who gave their lives in public service, and my Uncle Teddy, who devoted his Senate career to improving health care, would be disgusted.

The American health care system, for all its flaws, is the envy of the world. Its doctors and nurses, researchers, scientists, and caregivers are the most dedicated people I know. Every day, they give their lives to heal and save others. They deserve a knowledgable leader who is committed to evidence and excellence. They deserve a Secretary committed to advancing cutting-edge medicine to save lives, not rejecting the advances we have already made. They deserve a stable, moral, and ethical person at the helm of this crucial agency. They deserve better than Bobby Kennedy and so do the rest of us. I urge the Senate to reject this nomination.

Sincerely,
Caroline Kennedy




plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
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Caroline's letter is character assassination just like what her uncle Ted did to Robert Bork. This is the second Kennedy I have seen to come out publicly against RFKjr, neither of which talked about facts and both of which talked about him just profiting from the Kennedy name. That tells me it is a distributed script. For Caroline to whine about one of her kin making bank from the family name is the definition of hypocrisy.

As mentioned above, the right pigs are squealing.
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...but Mike pence is such a good Christian.

I wonder if he invites the Pfizer execs and defense contractors to his prayer breakfasts

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She's been great to have on our side.
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The Kraken said:

Caroline Kennedy sent a letter on her views on RFK's nomination to Senators and posted a video of her reading that same letter. It's pretty scathing.


https://katiecouric.com/news/politics-and-policy/caroline-kennedy-letter-rfk-jr/

Quote:

Throughout the past year, people have asked for my thoughts about my cousin, Robert Kennedy, Jr. and his presidential campaign.

I did not comment, not only because I was serving in a government position as United States Ambassador to Australia, but because I have never wanted to speak publicly about my family members and their challenges. We are a close generation of 28 cousins who have been through a lot together. We know how hard it has been, and we are always there for each other.

But now that Bobby has been nominated by President Trump to be Secretary of Health and Human Services, a position that would put him in charge of the health of the American people, I feel an obligation to speak out.

Overseeing the FDA, the NIH, the CDC, and the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services agencies that are charged with protecting the most vulnerable among us is an enormous responsibility, and one that Bobby is unqualified to fill. He lacks any relevant government, financial, management, or medical experience. His views on vaccines are dangerous and willfully misinformed. These facts alone should be disqualifying. But he has personal qualities related to this position which, for me, post even greater concern.

I have known Bobby my whole life; we grew up together. It's no surprise that he keeps birds of prey as pets because he himself is a predator. He has always been charismatic able to attract others through the strength of his personality, willingness to take risks and break the rules. I watched his younger brothers and cousins follow him down the path of drug addiction. His basement, his garage, and his dorm room were the centers of the action where drugs were available, and he enjoyed showing off how he put baby chickens and mice in the blender to feed his hawks. It was often a perverse scene of despair and violence.

Of course, people can grow and change. Through his own strength and the many second chances he was given by people who felt sorry for the boy who had lost his father Bobby was able to pull himself out of illness and disease. I admire the discipline that took and the continuing commitment it requires.

But siblings and cousins who Bobby encouraged down the path of substance abused suffered addiction, illness, and death while Bobby has gone to to misrepresent, lie, and cheat his way through life. Today, while he may encourage a younger generation to attend AA meetings, Bobby is addicted to attention and power. Bobby preys on the desperation of parents and sick children vaccinating his own children while building a following by hypocritically discouraging other parents from vaccinating theirs. Even before he fills this job, his constant denigration of our health care system and the conspiratorial half-truths he has told about vaccines, including in connection with Samoa's deadly 2019 measles outbreak, have cost lives.

And now we know that Bobby's crusade against vaccination has benefited him in other ways, too. His ethics report makes clear that he will keep his financial stake in a lawsuit against an HPV vaccine. In other words, he is willing to enrich himself by denying access to a vaccine that can prevent almost all forms of cervical cancer and which has been safely administered to millions of boys and girls. During my time in Australia working on the QUAD Cancer Moonshot, I learned that cervical cancer is among the top three forms of cancer among women in a majority of countries. Tragically every year, more than 200,000 children lose their mothers, orphaned due to a lack of vaccines and screening. These are the real-world consequences of Bobby's irresponsible beliefs.

We are a close family and none of this is easy to say. It also wasn't easy to remain silent last year when Bobby expropriated my father's image and distorted President Kennedy's legacy to advance his own failed presidential campaign and then groveled to Donald Trump for a job. Bobby continues to grandstand off my father's assassination, and that of his own father. It is incomprehensible that someone who is willing to exploit their own painful family tragedies for publicity would be in charge of American life-and-death situations.

Unlike Bobby, I try not to speak for my father but I am certain that he and my Uncle Bobby, who gave their lives in public service, and my Uncle Teddy, who devoted his Senate career to improving health care, would be disgusted.

The American health care system, for all its flaws, is the envy of the world. Its doctors and nurses, researchers, scientists, and caregivers are the most dedicated people I know. Every day, they give their lives to heal and save others. They deserve a knowledgable leader who is committed to evidence and excellence. They deserve a Secretary committed to advancing cutting-edge medicine to save lives, not rejecting the advances we have already made. They deserve a stable, moral, and ethical person at the helm of this crucial agency. They deserve better than Bobby Kennedy and so do the rest of us. I urge the Senate to reject this nomination.

Sincerely,
Caroline Kennedy





**** you Kennedy family!
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"everyone should have the research available and be able to choose for themselves why, how, and when you get vaccines" = "dangerous anti-vaxer"

Gee why could people think Democrats play politics over health???
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I really don't give a damn what Gotcha Couric and Caroline Kennedy have to say.

Go to any public school and it's looks like a bunch of feral hogs being released into the community. Something has to be done about children's health in this country. Otherwise life expectancy will continue to drop and health care costs will soar exponentially for this generation.
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She has definitely changed teams like many others. She was o Megyn Kelly's podcast last week and explained it all.
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Caroline Kennedy came out and said Biden was fit for a second term after his debate meltdown.

Her credibility is sh*t
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That snake Mike Pence is creating deep fake videos now!


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MarkTwain said:

Caroline Kennedy came out and said Biden was fit for a second term after his debate meltdown.

Her credibility is sh*t


Reaction to the Trump video above?
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You can change your mind about someone when you actually interact with them and have discussions with them? Seems a good place to start
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Caroline Kennedy is a giant liberal, so I really don't care much about what she has to say!

There's a whole host of reasons why a conservative would object to this lob RFK getting this job with HHS.

But Trump is the president, and I think that senators should defer to the president or nominations. But I would want some guarantees from RFK. He's going to put aside his leftist agenda.! I'm assuming, hoping, Trump already did this!

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AgBQ-00 said:

You can change your mind about someone when you actually interact with them and have discussions with them? Seems a good place to start


He interacted with RFK plenty before he made those statements.

Every word of what Trump said, remains true.

My guess is that the pharmaceutical industry is about the only issue that Trump agrees with RFK on. Personally, I wish he had given him a job more specific to taking on that issue. But no one elected me! Lol

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I honestly don't think Trump cares. You want to take RFK down so be it. He will put someone up that will do the same thing. We can keep doing this until he gets a recess appointment. He isn't going to change tract to allow the food, pharmaceutical, and chemical companies to get to pick someone that helps their bottom line to the detriment of the the American people.
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It is my understanding that HHS secretary goes before two committees for hearings.

Does anyone know if both committees have to send the nomination to the floor? Or just one?

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AgBQ-00 said:

You can change your mind about someone when you actually interact with them and have discussions with them? Seems a good place to start


So if you think someone is an "extreme liberal" and part of the "radical left", all you need to do is meet with them and you'll ask them to be part of your administration? We all know why Trump is doing this...a deal was made.
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MarkTwain said:

RFKJ's hardline stance on Fructose is getting huge pushback from the politicians who the commercial farming industry pays off because Fructose is a multi billion dollar industry and at the root of the obesity epidemic in America. Fructose is a bigger industry than big pharmaceutical, who also has issues with RFKJr. Two of the biggest money lobbying groups are hell bent on keeping him out.
Yep. Fructose without the fiber is actually a very slow acting poison to the body.

Watch, "Sugar: THE BITTER TRUTH".

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i've got meetings, but I think RFK Jr's hearing is live now.
 
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