The impact of USAID shutting down...

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In reply to TAMU1990 • 6:36p, 2/5/25
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Where did this go?
Sounds like one of their most successful programs.
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6:57p, 2/5/25
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USAID built a million dollar bridge in one of the places I was at in Afghanistan. It was concrete and built over a small creek.

The taliban used it as a toll bridge and to shakedown locals.
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Despite doing well for my family this one hits hard.
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We all knew this was going on. And it's just a drop in the bucket.
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In reply to Nanomachines son • 7:08p, 2/5/25
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It really does hit hard. I'm so happy my kids get to experience Trump's leadership. I was in grade school during Regan and all my kids are teens and early adults, and very conservative.
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And the IRS wants to audit your Venmo transactions, yet this waste is going on. It makes you angry how our tax dollars are being wasted.
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7:32p, 2/5/25




Literally everyone who has ever opposed the dissident right was apparently being paid to do it. I am honestly blown away. Absolutely everyone was controlled opposition.
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7:36p, 2/5/25
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This guy is big mad…sent to a friend of mine:

I'm astounded that as a lawyer you have no use for the rule of law. USAID was funded by the normal appropriations process. Many of the programs you don't care for were funded under Trump and Biden. And for the ones funded exclusively by Biden--tough ***** Elections have consequences and they were funded legally through. The executive branch doesn't have the authority to summarily end them. That's impoundment and it's unconstitutional.

If the scales have fallen from Trump's eyes as to the true nature of an agency he was in charge of for 4 years, then he can have Mike Johnson submit legislation and a budget that removes funding or bans certain programs. This should be easy to do since Trump's party controls both chambers. But allowing an unelected, unconfirmed campaign donor run roughshod through an independent enterprise and shutdown programs that are legally funded is illegal and frankly scary. Imagine if Biden let some billionaire donor shut out Department of Energy employees and start shutting down programs that benefitted oil and gas production. Is your opinion of that action only informed by your opinion of the program at risk, or do you think the rule of law should be abided regardless of the program? Because if it's the former, turn in your law license.
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In reply to Aggie95 • 7:41p, 2/5/25
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This guy is big mad…sent to a friend of mine:

I'm astounded that as a lawyer you have no use for the rule of law. USAID was funded by the normal appropriations process. Many of the programs you don't care for were funded under Trump and Biden. And for the ones funded exclusively by Biden--tough ***** Elections have consequences and they were funded legally through. The executive branch doesn't have the authority to summarily end them. That's impoundment and it's unconstitutional.

If the scales have fallen from Trump's eyes as to the true nature of an agency he was in charge of for 4 years, then he can have Mike Johnson submit legislation and a budget that removes funding or bans certain programs. This should be easy to do since Trump's party controls both chambers. But allowing an unelected, unconfirmed campaign donor run roughshod through an independent enterprise and shutdown programs that are legally funded is illegal and frankly scary. Imagine if Biden let some billionaire donor shut out Department of Energy employees and start shutting down programs that benefitted oil and gas production. Is your opinion of that action only informed by your opinion of the program at risk, or do you think the rule of law should be abided regardless of the program? Because if it's the former, turn in your law license.
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In reply to Aggie95 • 7:53p, 2/5/25
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So when Obama wrote executive orders that were unconstitutional knowing they were unconstitutional (Daca for one) he said the republicans would have to fight it in court and trump did that so I guess they can go to court and it will take four years or so or more if trump gets more Supreme Court appointments.
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In reply to BadMoonRisin • 7:56p, 2/5/25
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Aggie95 said:
This guy is big mad…sent to a friend of mine:

I'm astounded that as a lawyer you have no use for the rule of law. USAID was funded by the normal appropriations process. Many of the programs you don't care for were funded under Trump and Biden. And for the ones funded exclusively by Biden--tough ***** Elections have consequences and they were funded legally through. The executive branch doesn't have the authority to summarily end them. That's impoundment and it's unconstitutional.

If the scales have fallen from Trump's eyes as to the true nature of an agency he was in charge of for 4 years, then he can have Mike Johnson submit legislation and a budget that removes funding or bans certain programs. This should be easy to do since Trump's party controls both chambers. But allowing an unelected, unconfirmed campaign donor run roughshod through an independent enterprise and shutdown programs that are legally funded is illegal and frankly scary. Imagine if Biden let some billionaire donor shut out Department of Energy employees and start shutting down programs that benefitted oil and gas production. Is your opinion of that action only informed by your opinion of the program at risk, or do you think the rule of law should be abided regardless of the program? Because if it's the former, turn in your law license.


Perfectly summed up - and a great ****ing episode!
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In reply to Aggie95 • 8:16p, 2/5/25
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This guy is big mad…sent to a friend of mine:

I'm astounded that as a lawyer you have no use for the rule of law. USAID was funded by the normal appropriations process. Many of the programs you don't care for were funded under Trump and Biden. And for the ones funded exclusively by Biden--tough ***** Elections have consequences and they were funded legally through. The executive branch doesn't have the authority to summarily end them. That's impoundment and it's unconstitutional.

If the scales have fallen from Trump's eyes as to the true nature of an agency he was in charge of for 4 years, then he can have Mike Johnson submit legislation and a budget that removes funding or bans certain programs. This should be easy to do since Trump's party controls both chambers. But allowing an unelected, unconfirmed campaign donor run roughshod through an independent enterprise and shutdown programs that are legally funded is illegal and frankly scary. Imagine if Biden let some billionaire donor shut out Department of Energy employees and start shutting down programs that benefitted oil and gas production. Is your opinion of that action only informed by your opinion of the program at risk, or do you think the rule of law should be abided regardless of the program? Because if it's the former, turn in your law license.

Somehow I suspect that nobody agreed or voted to fund these specific projects under USAID. Maybe they gave funding to USAID, but how it was to be spent was certainly never approved.
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In reply to Nanomachines son • 9:42p, 2/5/25
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Literally everyone who has ever opposed the dissident right was apparently being paid to do it. I am honestly blown away. Absolutely everyone was controlled opposition.
Since I had no idea

Vaush - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaush
Aella - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aella_(writer) ?
Richard Hanania - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Hanania
James Lindsay - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_A._Lindsay


Funding all sides? Maybe Lindsay got money to shut up
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9:45p, 2/5/25
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Hurricane Elon is blowing through Washington, creating panic and pushback wherever he and his government-efficiency minions appear. Mr. Musk sometimes blows hot air, and he needs to be watched to stay within legal guardrails. But he's also hitting targets that have long deserved scrutiny and reform, which helps explain the wailing over the U.S. Agency for International Development.

USAID, not a household acronym provides money to various countries and non-governmental organizations. The agency sends money to around 130 countries, including Ukraine, Yemen, Afghanistan, and Syria, according to the Congressional Research Service. In 2023 the agency managed more than $40 billion and no fewer than 10,000 employees. The ostensible goal is to make friends and influence countries in the American interest.

USAID is hardly full of Mother Teresas who only want to do good without a political agenda. House Foreign Affairs Chairman Brian Mast cites examples of USAID's progressive agenda at work.

The agency in the Biden years supported electric vehicles in Vietnam and a "transgender clinic" in India. A Serbian LGBTQ group called 'Grupa Izadji,' received $1.5 million to 'advance diversity equity and inclusion in Serbia's workplaces and business communities." There are many other examples.

These grants are dumb and wasteful, but some USAID spending may undermine U.S. interests. An analysis by the Middle East Forum says $164 million of USAID money has supported radical organizations around the world, and $122 million of that aid was going to groups aligned with foreign terrorist organizations.

Hurricane Musk and the USAID Panic - WSJ
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In reply to Iraq2xVeteran • 9:48p, 2/5/25
Thanks for the summary chatgpt
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In reply to nortex97 • 9:50p, 2/5/25
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It's just so sad, the impact this will have on Afghanistan.


Now, if Trump can manage to cut back Iranian oil revenues to Jan 2021 levels, imagine how much less money the terrorists will have.
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The Biden Administration's lax enforcement of international oil sanctions has allowed Tehran to increase the export of illicit oil and petroleum products. Iran's oil exports jumped to nearly 2 million barrels per day (bpd) in March 2024, compared to an average of 775,000 bpd during the Trump administration's maximum pressure campaign. FDD estimates that Iran's total oil revenue since the start of the Biden administration ranges from $81 billion to $90.7 billion. Tehran uses the profits from its oil to arm anti-Israel and anti-U.S. militias throughout the Middle East, which regularly target U.S. allies.

but but Dems want peace and love everyone...

I am so happy that they are being exposed for the repugnant party that they are.

NO ONE can justify a damned thing that that party has ever done. They can lie about it. They can obfuscate, but they will never justify.
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9:54p, 2/5/25
Shutting it down isn't good enough. We need to see the DOJ arresting people for life.
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In reply to Fightin_Aggie • 9:55p, 2/5/25
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Fightin_Aggie said:
Nanomachines son said:




Literally everyone who has ever opposed the dissident right was apparently being paid to do it. I am honestly blown away. Absolutely everyone was controlled opposition.
Since I had no idea

Vaush - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaush
Aella - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aella_(writer) ?
Richard Hanania - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Hanania
James Lindsay - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_A._Lindsay


Funding all sides? Maybe Lindsay got money to shut up
FYI... it appears that they got the wrong James Lindsay. The one that was a taking money from USAId works for CFR.
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In reply to Aggie95 • 9:55p, 2/5/25
That person needs a binkie.

And to have the **** slapped out of him.
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Bondi needs to file a RICO case against everyone who got money. Freeze their assets. And clawback all of it via judgement.

Then have Trump lower everyone's taxes
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12:59a, 2/6/25
If y'all think these same evil mother****ers wouldn't pay someone to commit a mass homicide, you're not following along. The same evil that drives the cartels drives these power mad political tyrants.
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In reply to Nanomachines son • 1:33a, 2/6/25
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Despite doing well for my family this one hits hard.
Nothing more satisfying than watching the millennials who are a subset of the liberals shake like a chihuahua and stay in the perpetual victim lane moaning and pissing, carry on.
Gen x hasn't done a damn thing except pat themselves on the back
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5:31a, 2/6/25
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Russiagate as a political weapon/cudgel against conservatives/Trump, and the fear-porn of how scary Russia is won't go away, but it will be seriously defenestrated by this:



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In reply to nortex97 • 6:26a, 2/6/25
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Think we are seeing why McCain voted against repealing Obamacare…

That slimy little SOB…
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I have a hunch that we are going to find USAID funds going toward the promotion of Obamacare…
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In reply to Fightin_Aggie • 6:37a, 2/6/25
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Nanomachines son said:




Literally everyone who has ever opposed the dissident right was apparently being paid to do it. I am honestly blown away. Absolutely everyone was controlled opposition.
Since I had no idea

Vaush - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaush
Aella - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aella_(writer) ?
Richard Hanania - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Hanania
James Lindsay - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_A._Lindsay


Funding all sides? Maybe Lindsay got money to shut up


Lindsay is an atheist marxist dedicated to subverting Christianity. He's not a good person at all.
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In reply to FireAg • 6:44a, 2/6/25
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Think we are seeing why McCain voted against repealing Obamacare…

That slimy little SOB…

But Trump just didn't know how to get people on his side and that's why he couldn't get legislation passed....
Seriously though McCain is scum and proof one act should never redeem a man for life.
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In reply to Aggie95 • 6:50a, 2/6/25
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This guy is big mad…sent to a friend of mine:

I'm astounded that as a lawyer you have no use for the rule of law. USAID was funded by the normal appropriations process. Many of the programs you don't care for were funded under Trump and Biden. And for the ones funded exclusively by Biden--tough ***** Elections have consequences and they were funded legally through. The executive branch doesn't have the authority to summarily end them. That's impoundment and it's unconstitutional.

If the scales have fallen from Trump's eyes as to the true nature of an agency he was in charge of for 4 years, then he can have Mike Johnson submit legislation and a budget that removes funding or bans certain programs. This should be easy to do since Trump's party controls both chambers. But allowing an unelected, unconfirmed campaign donor run roughshod through an independent enterprise and shutdown programs that are legally funded is illegal and frankly scary. Imagine if Biden let some billionaire donor shut out Department of Energy employees and start shutting down programs that benefitted oil and gas production. Is your opinion of that action only informed by your opinion of the program at risk, or do you think the rule of law should be abided regardless of the program? Because if it's the former, turn in your law license.


Deep down I wish, it worked the way this guy says it ought to. I don't like EOs or the Musk thing. But trying to get Congress to do anything is like beating your head against a wall. They don't do sheet except line their pockets or those around them. And for example, say there was a bill for 5 million dollars to build an overpass in congested city. By the time the bill would come to a vote , it would be for a 100 million and half of it would be for sending condoms to Hamas.
Greedy congressmen only have themselves to blame for being left out of process. Eff em. Get on the train or get off
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In reply to Aggie95 • 7:23a, 2/6/25
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This guy is big mad…sent to a friend of mine:

I'm astounded that as a lawyer you have no use for the rule of law. USAID was funded by the normal appropriations process. Many of the programs you don't care for were funded under Trump and Biden. And for the ones funded exclusively by Biden--tough ***** Elections have consequences and they were funded legally through. The executive branch doesn't have the authority to summarily end them. That's impoundment and it's unconstitutional.

If the scales have fallen from Trump's eyes as to the true nature of an agency he was in charge of for 4 years, then he can have Mike Johnson submit legislation and a budget that removes funding or bans certain programs. This should be easy to do since Trump's party controls both chambers. But allowing an unelected, unconfirmed campaign donor run roughshod through an independent enterprise and shutdown programs that are legally funded is illegal and frankly scary. Imagine if Biden let some billionaire donor shut out Department of Energy employees and start shutting down programs that benefitted oil and gas production. Is your opinion of that action only informed by your opinion of the program at risk, or do you think the rule of law should be abided regardless of the program? Because if it's the former, turn in your law license.
I'm not an attorney... so I say shut that **** down. **** all that hoops noise.

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