How do you think Trump/GOP should combat progressive judges...

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2:37p, 2/10/25
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Ok hear me out. It's kinda a mix between "Hunger Games", 'The Hunt" and "Deliverance."

We round those judges up and let them loose in a deeply red state.

Things will work themselves out.
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3:02p, 2/10/25
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I know this is the way it's done but why does a federal judge (not even the head of the judicial branch) get to veto the head of the executive branch?

Unless Trump can do the same thing to the judicial branch this is not BALANCE of power.
No, I don't care what CNN or MSNBC said this time
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In reply to TexAgs91 • 3:21p, 2/10/25
Trump is free to ignore any court order he wants. There's nothing the courts can do to him.

The check on that is impeachment.

Do you think this congress is going to impeach Trump?
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In reply to TexAgs91 • 3:25p, 2/10/25
TexAgs91 said:
I know this is the way it's done but why does a federal judge (not even the head of the judicial branch) get to veto the head of the executive branch?

Unless Trump can do the same thing to the judicial branch this is not BALANCE of power.
Trump team just needs to actually fight the rullings
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In reply to Francis Macomber • 3:38p, 2/10/25
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Francis Macomber said:
We elected a President, not a king like so many of you seem to want. Presidents have to follow the law and are subject to checks and balances which will block or delay them when they try to go against the Constitution.

Congrats, our system is still working despite so many efforts by Trump and his team to destroy it. You will be thankful for these things the next time a popular Democrat takes the Presidency.


I've followed your F16 postings for decades. Glad to see your honesty crosses ideologies.

JK - Go troll premium.
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3:44p, 2/10/25
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So, update. Judge rules that Trump didn't fully comply with the order.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/judge-finds-trump-administration-violated-court-order-halting-funding-rcna191528

Team Trump apparently said that they didn't restart "some" of the funding.

Judge says you have to specifically identify fraud to stop funding.

This is absurd.
It takes a special kind of brainwashed useful idiot to politically defend government fraud, waste, and abuse.
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In reply to eric76 • 3:48p, 2/10/25
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eric76 said:
Ag87H2O said:
Issue preemptive blanket pardons for himself and anyone involved with DOGE enforcement and keep going full speed.

Biden set the precedent and the Dems applauded so they should be good with it, right?
Biden was hardly the first President to issue preemptive pardons.

I have no idea who the first was, but one relatively recent example (i.e. within my adult lifetime) was President Ford's preemptive pardon of former President Nixon.
How many issued preemptive pardons to their family members?
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In reply to Science Denier • 3:59p, 2/10/25
Science Denier said:
When a judge's "ruling' goes against the constitution and against current law, that judge should be impeached.


I think the better measure would be number of times overturned.

If your opinion gets overturned by a higher court a certain number of times in a set period with that being upheld by the Supreme court you should have to relinquish the bench because you suck.

There should also be a better method to fast track more time sensitive cases through.

This shopping for judge's is ridiculous.
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4:05p, 2/10/25
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Judge says you have to specifically identify fraud to stop funding


Have there been any specifics on what fraud occurred? I haven't seen anything other than tweets saying there is fraud with the one exception being the list of things Leavitt read at a presser a couple of weeks ago with no source for those items.
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In reply to FIDO_Ags • 4:11p, 2/10/25
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FIDO_Ags said:
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Judge says you have to specifically identify fraud to stop funding
Have there been any specifics on what fraud occurred? I haven't seen anything other than tweets saying there is fraud with the one exception being the list of things Leavitt read at a presser a couple of weeks ago with no source for those items.
Have you been living under a rock?

Do you think that it is coincidence that USAID funding to media companies was cut, and politico immediately missed payroll?
It takes a special kind of brainwashed useful idiot to politically defend government fraud, waste, and abuse.
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In reply to BusterAg • 4:21p, 2/10/25
No, I've actually been following it closely or I wouldn't have asked. I haven't seen any posted sources for fraud.
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In reply to DevilD77 • 4:30p, 2/10/25
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DevilD77 said:
Ignore them until SCOTUS makes a final decision.

Yes.

Use the Biden rule.
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4:30p, 2/10/25
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It would be a real shame if one of Musk's geniuses did a deep dive on these judges and published the results.
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In reply to taxpreparer • 4:33p, 2/10/25
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It would be a real shame if one of Musk's geniuses did a deep dive on these judges and published the results.

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4:33p, 2/10/25
Sign a new EO with a few words changes and don't wait to take action.
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In reply to Francis Macomber • 4:41p, 2/10/25
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Francis Macomber said:
We elected a President, not a king like so many of you seem to want. Presidents have to follow the law and are subject to checks and balances which will block or delay them when they try to go against the Constitution.

Congrats, our system is still working despite so many efforts by Trump and his team to destroy it. You will be thankful for these things the next time a popular Democrat takes the Presidency.
You are making the same mistake many of the judges are in their rationale of their ruling.

ie. They are not addressing some of these injunctions as a matter of law. They are addressing them from a viewpoint of how "awful" Trump is. "Trump's Overreach". "Trump's efforts to 'destroy' the Constitution".

None of those are legal arguments.
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4:44p, 2/10/25
donald trump, elon musk, and their allies want you to believe that they have the unilateral authority to do whatever they want just because they say so. they are lying, just like they lie about everything else, and they know it.

they are not above the law no matter how bad you want them to be. sorry our government doesn't allow your favorite oligarchs to play king.
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In reply to Old McDonald • 4:51p, 2/10/25
Old McDonald said:
donald trump, elon musk, and their allies want you to believe that they have the unilateral authority to do whatever they want just because they say so. they are lying, just like they lie about everything else, and they know it.

they are not above the law no matter how bad you want them to be. sorry our government doesn't allow your favorite oligarchs to play king.


You and your ilk talking about not being above the law is high comedy.

Cutting fraud and waste in the executive branch is not illegal. I know you want it to be, but it's not.
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In reply to BMX Bandit • 4:53p, 2/10/25
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BMX Bandit said:
Trump is free to ignore any court order he wants. There's nothing the courts can do to him.

The check on that is impeachment.

Do you think this congress is going to impeach Trump?
Spot on. And continue trying it in the court of public opinion, "this judge thinks it's wrong to deport rapists and murderers to their home country", "this judge thinks federal aid should include transgender operas in Columbia", "this judge thinks taxpayers should be giving money to ProPublica". And of course, continue with the legal appeals - embrace the grind.
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In reply to Old McDonald • 4:54p, 2/10/25
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Old McDonald said:
donald trump, elon musk, and their allies want you to believe that they have the unilateral authority to do whatever they want just because they say so. they are lying, just like they lie about everything else, and they know it.

they are not above the law no matter how bad you want them to be. sorry our government doesn't allow your favorite oligarchs to play king.
But you have no problem whatsoever with Biden or Obama doing whatever they wanted, you know, because "elections have consequences"?

Get out of here with your awful takes on, well, everything.
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In reply to Old McDonald • 5:08p, 2/10/25
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Old McDonald said:
donald trump, elon musk, and their allies want you to believe that they have the unilateral authority to do whatever they want just because they say so. they are lying, just like they lie about everything else, and they know it.

they are not above the law no matter how bad you want them to be. sorry our government doesn't allow your favorite oligarchs to play king.
Trump is the duly elected leader of the administrative branch. The fact that you did not vote for him does not allow you to limit the authority or the inner workings of the executive branch.

That goes for solitary Federal judges as well. If they issue injunctions and base their ruling on some sort of "Orange Man Bad" rationale, they - as well as the injunctions - are primae facie evidence that said injunctions are more of an intrusion by the Judicial branch into the lawful workings of the executive branch than they are of any check on an abuse.

Again, just because YOU think Trump and Musk are liars, doesn't make it so.

It amazes me of the cognitive dissonance that liberals are going through to oppose cleaning up our government. Arguing that officials who are elected by the MAJORITY of the country don't have the authority to see who's getting checks from the Treasury, but any random employee of the IRS has access to ANY payment over $600 going to or from any checking account.

That is the literal definition of insanity. And I'm tired of daily irrational, illogical arguments. Bring a real argument, or give it a rest.
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In reply to jrdaustin • 5:26p, 2/10/25
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That is the literal definition of insanity. And I'm tired of daily irrational, illogical arguments. Bring a real argument, or give it a rest.
Why I have just been rolling my eyes and not commenting much. 99% of this legal caterwauling is without merit.

Just pettifoggery. And yes that's a word. When applied to lawyers and their legal arguments, not a good one.
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In reply to FIDO_Ags • 5:27p, 2/10/25
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FIDO_Ags said:
No, I've actually been following it closely or I wouldn't have asked. I haven't seen any posted sources for fraud.
Are you saying that:

1) Musk and team is lying about the data that they posted that shows all of that grant money going to sources like Politico? Ben Stiller? The team is providing EIN numbers.

2) That you have seen the descriptions of what has been sent to these EIN numbers, and don't think that any of that is fraud?

3) You haven't seen any information that shows specific descriptions of disbursements from USAID that includes NGO EIN numbers?

4) You actually have been living under a rock, and just didn't know it?

Has to be one of the above 4.
It takes a special kind of brainwashed useful idiot to politically defend government fraud, waste, and abuse.
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In reply to Old McDonald • 5:32p, 2/10/25
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Old McDonald said:
donald trump, elon musk, and their allies want you to believe that they have the unilateral authority to do whatever they want just because they say so. they are lying, just like they lie about everything else, and they know it.

they are not above the law no matter how bad you want them to be. sorry our government doesn't allow your favorite oligarchs to play king.
What law is Trump breaking? What part of that law? What activities, specifically, is he doing that is against the law?

Trump and Musk are using an established government program USDS that has congressional funding and legislative authority to access information systems to find efficiency. This department was established by Obama.

If you believe that Trump is breaking the law by using this department, write your congressperson.

Trump is not above the law. That is why he is obeying the law.

It takes a special kind of brainwashed useful idiot to politically defend government fraud, waste, and abuse.
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In reply to Ag87H2O • 6:28p, 2/10/25
Ag87H2O said:
Issue preemptive blanket pardons for himself and anyone involved with DOGE enforcement and keep going full speed.

Biden set the precedent and the Dems applauded so they should be good with it, right?
You have wicked idea there, I like it.
But no that would only give the Democratic Party leadership more ammunition in the future to promote their lawlessness.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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6:52p, 2/10/25
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Fraud does not necessarily equal funding things one party doesn't agree with.

If there was actual fraud people would be calling for indictments
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In reply to taxpreparer • 6:53p, 2/10/25
taxpreparer said:
It would be a real shame if one of Musk's geniuses did a deep dive on these judges and published the results.
New DOJ boss may have already begun.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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In reply to nhamp07 • 7:43p, 2/10/25
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nhamp07 said:
Fraud does not necessarily equal funding things one party doesn't agree with.

If there was actual fraud people would be calling for indictments

If we're paying 40% income tax so Muslims in Gaza can have condoms, it's damn sure fraudulent to me.
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8:09p, 2/10/25
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Trump should ignore the rulings while countering the judges. Outside of the minority of crazy leftists, the will of the people are with Trump. Americans, including many Democrats, are plenty pissed at what Elon is finding.
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In reply to BusterAg • 8:12p, 2/10/25
I'm not calling Musk or the DOGE team liars nor do I disagree with the audits they are conducting, what I want to know is what is fraud and what is stupid spending. Stupid spending should be eliminated, but that doesn't make it fraud. I am familiar with what the CFR says about distribution of federal funds and the end states of those funds. There is a long paper trail between the Fed and end user of those funds, that's what I want to see, not just the pass through agencies. That is where fraud would be found and anyone abusing that should be prosecuted. Said simply , there are two categories-stupid spending and fraud. Fraud is easier since it implies criminal intent. I want to know what the stupid spending is and then investigate why that decision was made. That will fix government, not a bunch of tweets.
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In reply to Francis Macomber • 8:28p, 2/10/25
Very little understanding of politics. Let me guess what board you're from…

Where were you when Biden was wiping his ass with the Constitution? Oh, right. Same board.
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In reply to BusterAg • 8:31p, 2/10/25
BusterAg said:
So, update. Judge rules that Trump didn't fully comply with the order.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/judge-finds-trump-administration-violated-court-order-halting-funding-rcna191528

Team Trump apparently said that they didn't restart "some" of the funding.

Judge says you have to specifically identify fraud to stop funding.

This is absurd.
The judge is wrong. He has no say on what the Executive does within his branch. Judge can **** himself.
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9:04p, 2/10/25
Biden ignored quite a bit.
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9:15p, 2/10/25
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Trump has a lot of wind at his back in his actions, that wind provided by what the Dems have done the past 8+ years.

The rhetoric, the lawfare, the lies… they pushed all of that not just too the limit, but way beyond like a coyote who has outrun the roadrunner.

Biden showed time and time again that you don't have to follow court orders. He'll, you have Pelosi and Schumer screaming that you don't have to follow what SCOTUS, threatening investigations court packing and the like any time they disagreed.

You challenged the immunity of POTUS to the point of having SCOTUS tell you they do. And pardon authority of POTUS, again Biden showed you there are no limits.

The libs are painting themselves into a glorious ****ball of muh democracy at stake goo, that the best thing to do is watch them twist themselves over and over.

As for what Trump should do. Nothing. Just keep moving forward. Let the lawyers handle these cases, keep the work going where you can, and tilt at the next hole of fraud, waste and abuse.
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9:21p, 2/10/25
Follow the law and don't forget that today shall pass and at some point, the Dems will be back in office. Don't let them follow a precedent.
If you say you hate the state of politics in this nation and you don't get involved in it, you obviously don't hate the state of politics in this nation.
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