No one will. They are all tied together

People will get outted and fired. That's it

Odds are no one, at least no one that really matters.

If someone has to be sacrificed, it will be some low level staffer who will take the fall.

Almost certainly nobody of consequence.

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That's ultimately what I want to know.

Because unless there are the most stringent and severest of consequences this behavior will not change.

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You're gonna need to lower your expectations...

I'll believe it when I see it.

I would sincerely like to hope it's plenty.
Non-snarky reply incoming... There HAS to come a point somewhere in the chain where "I was just doing my job" no longer cuts it. I know that actual process won't be fast. It'll be after Elon and his team of techies are out of the picture and the DOJ will need time to pour over this.

If and when the data starts to point to laws being broken then you need some type of DOJ investigation. Perhaps even a bipartisan special council brought in to rummage through it. (Ok this might be slightly snarky here...) Imagine what a Tony Buzbee type would do if you let him loose on a myriad of financial crimes. Look I think he's sleezy, but he's a junk-yard pitbull attack dog type that doesn't mind getting in the mud and rolling around in it to make a point out of someone.

Arrests, charges, and trials will take a LONG time. Trump has unfettered control for 2 years. People have got to become sufficiently angry that control over Congress doesn't swing wildly in 2 years giving them the power to somehow thwart everything or become a giant roadblock that he must clear for his final 2 years.

A wild guess...the "leaker" who informed the media about the ICE raid. Homan wants (needs) an example.

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That's ultimately what I want to know.

Because unless there are the most stringent and severest of consequences this behavior will not change.

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Well not the convicted felon currently in office.

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LMAO. Speaking of that, is Trump going to appeal since it's over and he's served no time? I wish he would and the result to be found so outrageous the judge gets disbarred.

Yea, good luck on that, I know.

No one. Because the contracts they are cancelling aren't fraud they are just policies the new administration doesn't agree with.

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No one. Because the contracts they are cancelling aren't fraud they are just policies the new administration doesn't agree with.

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Legislatures getting indirect payment, schemed thru multiple transactions, that START with the Federal Government's money is the definition of fraud.

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No one. Because the contracts they are cancelling aren't fraud they are just policies the new administration doesn't agree with.

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Legislatures getting indirect payment, schemed thru multiple transactions, that START with the Federal Government's money is the definition of fraud.

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Actual proof??

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No one. Because the contracts they are cancelling aren't fraud they are just policies the new administration doesn't agree with.

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Legislatures getting indirect payment, schemed thru multiple transactions, that START with the Federal Government's money is the definition of fraud.

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Actual proof??

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It's coming. Unless they kill DOGE and Trump.

You know it, I know it. They know it. Everyone knows it.

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No one. Because the contracts they are cancelling aren't fraud they are just policies the new administration doesn't agree with.

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Legislatures getting indirect payment, schemed thru multiple transactions, that START with the Federal Government's money is the definition of fraud.

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Actual proof??

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It's coming. Unless they kill DOGE and Trump.

You know it, I know it. They know it. Everyone knows it.

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lol. Just like the kraken?

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nhamp07 said:

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No one. Because the contracts they are cancelling aren't fraud they are just policies the new administration doesn't agree with.

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Legislatures getting indirect payment, schemed thru multiple transactions, that START with the Federal Government's money is the definition of fraud.

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Actual proof??

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It's coming. Unless they kill DOGE and Trump.

You know it, I know it. They know it. Everyone knows it.

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lol. Just like the kraken?

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We are witnessing The Kracken. It was just a bit delayed.

Depends on how strong the will of the people are in responding to the exposures!

We force the change!

There are midterms in 2026 and another POTUS election in 2028. I know most of US want scorched earth but success is built better and longer lasting by stacking small victories.

No one will get arrested except by court of publicly opinion and no one will lose their pension benefits.

I would <3 to be shown very, very wrong.

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AGinHI said:

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That's ultimately what I want to know.

Because unless there are the most stringent and severest of consequences this behavior will not change.

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Well not the convicted felon currently in office.

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Why the winky emoticon. Its what you really believe based on your posting in general. I find it amusing when obvious libs pile on a guy that was "convicted" in what everyone knows to be a politically driven kangaroo court. Everyone with a brain also knew that *hit show of a verdict was going to be over turned on appeal.

Nothing shows partisan ignorance and down right contempt for our core institutions than quoting this farce out of New York.

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He was convicted by a jury of his peers and I'm respecting their judgment. It sounds like you, in fact, have contempt for our core institutions.

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There are midterms in 2026 and another POTUS election in 2028. I know most of US want scorched earth but success is built better and longer lasting by stacking small victories.

No one will get arrested except by court of publicly opinion and no one will lose their pension benefits.

I would <3 to be shown very, very wrong.

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Honest Media coverage provided by alternative sources will mean more public acceptance of the cleanup before midterms.

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No one. Because the contracts they are cancelling aren't fraud

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No. They're fraud.

Don't defend the looting of the treasury.

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No one. Because the contracts they are cancelling aren't fraud they are just policies the new administration doesn't agree with.

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Sesame Street in Iraq? Condoms for Mozambique? These are policies that Trump administration doesn't agree with? Try 300MM Americans. GTFO with that loonyness.

Those are money laundering ventures flowing back to hacks in US which equates to blatant THEFT

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Hullabaloonatic said:

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AGinHI said:

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That's ultimately what I want to know.

Because unless there are the most stringent and severest of consequences this behavior will not change.

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Well not the convicted felon currently in office.

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Why the winky emoticon. Its what you really believe based on your posting in general. I find it amusing when obvious libs pile on a guy that was "convicted" in what everyone knows to be a politically driven kangaroo court. Everyone with a brain also knew that *hit show of a verdict was going to be over turned on appeal.

Nothing shows partisan ignorance and down right contempt for our core institutions than quoting this farce out of New York.

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He was convicted by a jury of his peers and I'm respecting their judgment. It sounds like you, in fact, have contempt for our core institutions.

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1. He was convicted of a bookkeeping error. Misclassified entries to be exact.

2. So, every case of entries by government that Elon finds is a felony according to your standards.

So, by your definition, there should be thousands that will be convicted felons.

Right?

Ooops! Maxine says the quiet part?

PANIC IN DC NCSWIC.
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— YEHI 'OHR (@Saulito46107740) February 12, 2025

Hey Maxine. Elon has EVERYTHING.

Science Denier said:

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Hullabaloonatic said:

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AGinHI said:

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That's ultimately what I want to know.

Because unless there are the most stringent and severest of consequences this behavior will not change.

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Well not the convicted felon currently in office.

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Why the winky emoticon. Its what you really believe based on your posting in general. I find it amusing when obvious libs pile on a guy that was "convicted" in what everyone knows to be a politically driven kangaroo court. Everyone with a brain also knew that *hit show of a verdict was going to be over turned on appeal.

Nothing shows partisan ignorance and down right contempt for our core institutions than quoting this farce out of New York.

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He was convicted by a jury of his peers and I'm respecting their judgment. It sounds like you, in fact, have contempt for our core institutions.

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1. He was convicted of a bookkeeping error. Misclassified entries to be exact.

2. So, every case of entries by government that Elon finds is a felony according to your standards.

So, by your definition, there should be thousands that will be convicted felons.

Right?

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1. Trump was charged with 34 counts of falsification of business records in the first degree. To be exact, falsification of business records is a felony when the records are altered with an intent to defraud. The jury found him guilty of falsifying business records to conceal another crime. Not an error; an explicit deliberate attempt to conceal.

2. "Every case of entries"....? I'm not sure what you're asking, but if the state or federal government has a criminal case they are more than welcome to pursue it.

DOGE'S job is to identify the waste and fraud. It will be up to Bondi and company to charge and convict.

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The jury found him guilty of falsifying business records to conceal another crime

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Wrong. The judge's instruction specifically was that no crime had to be proven either to have taken place or to have been planned to have taken place.

I know what the law is, but the judge's order was that it didn't need to be proven.

So, all that needs to be proven is someone accuse these people to cover up a crime. And, why would you not document payments properly? Pretty easy to "assume" since that's all that needs to be presented to a jury.