Madman said:
jwhaby said:
Madman said:
jwhaby said:
They will claim that it is social deception done in other countries, not the US.
I agree but I hardly see how that makes things any better. Especially if the countries in question are democracies.
This is where it's a bit of a gray area. Let's say there is a democratically controlled country in a strategic location where we urgently need a military base for our national defense. What if their leader doesn't want to grant us that base? Is it better to put our nation at risk or use USAID funds to stage a social uprising to overthrow that leader in favor of one that's willing to grant us a military base?
Neither situation is ideal and the decision is filled with moral dilemmas. Should our politicians be more concerned with the safety of their constituents or the democracy and sovereignty of a foreign nation?
The real problem is when the swamp starts weaponizing these tactics against their own citizens.
I have always heard activity like this described as something like - The american people are not sophisticated enough to be allowed to know what is going on in statecraft and world affairs, but doing these things ensures the American people have a higher standard of living.
The problem with that is I think the higher standard of living thing is not only gone, but resulting in a lower standard of living. And more to your comment I think in the past the argument was it will result in better national security. That is also the opposite. We are constantly fighting all over the planet for seemingly no reason.
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I mean we literally found out we fund terror groups that we are actively fighting.
I hear you. Personally, I'm a big fan of isolationism (with free trade and critical manufacturing done domestically) and neutrality. Stay out of everyone's business and focus the military on the defense of the homeland. I think we learned from Vietnam that it's very difficult for even a vastly superior army to defeat an inferior but entrenched and motivated force on their own turf.
Who cares what is happening in the Middle East or Africa, unless they have critical natural resources that we need and don't have. Stay out of global conflicts but be prepared to destroy people if the fight is brought to our doorstep. I'm really not worried about this scenario as long as we continue to invest in our military and stay innovative in our technologies. Also, it's worth noting that America possesses something like 1/3 of the entire plant's firearms. No foreign nation could overthrow the US…unless we invite them in, give them a vote and they breed us out with larger demographics. This is the real threat.