Will a D President hire back all Fed workers fired?

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hoopla
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Is there anything to prevent them from doing this?
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Yes. At 1.5x the cost
Detmersdislocatedshoulder
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the political landscape is changing. i am not sure going full commie marxist is a winning strategy moving forward.
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Yes, with 4 years backpay.
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I think once the Dems quiet down, cause they're counter-point(whatever it is) makes no sense to most Americans, and IF we see a solid mid-term cycle, spending money should be a lot more difficult.

Better systems for transparency will be in place and there's too many folks watching now for them to just slip billions/trillions in on us, at least for a while.
Farmer_J
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Related question.

Will Republicans remove the expense saved from the next budget?

I doubt it.
Owlagdad
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Hire them back as janitors or cooks.
Libs didn't fuss when Carter riffed the military- he took guys who EARNED battle field promotions and made it to Captain , and then gave them a choice to get out , with maybe 14-16 of service and no retirement. Or come back as E-5 or E-6.
As a young Lt. I pulled duty one weekend with E-6 who had done couple tours in Nam. You could tell he had problems calling me sir, and I had no problem with that. The rif screwed him. But, he did choose to stay, and same with guvmint employees- just be ready to roll - no one owes you a job.
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Government employees...

Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
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hoopla said:

Is there anything to prevent them from doing this?


Depends on how congress fortifies trumps actions.

If they reduce the budgets or pass stringent controls over the scope and hiring, then no, the entire dem president won't be able to rehire.

If congress does nothing, then, yes, probably the next democrat will significantly regrow the govt and make terrible deals while doing so.
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Taking back the corrupt press is essential. We're either living through the biggest scandal in Western history or we're watching it's downfall. The FISA scandal should have dwarfed Watergate in its enormity. The fact that journalists are being paid to mislead the US taxpayers through their own tax dollars is almost unimaginable.
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No. They may re-expand and it may necessitate new openings, but it won't be a simple undo.
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I see a lot of posts about how Clinton cut the federal work source by 15% when he first came into office.

Can't help but think that that was just a ruse to get rid of all the entrenched Reaganites and rehire.
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Farmer_J said:


I see a lot of posts about how Clinton cut the federal work source by 15% when he first came into office.

Can't help but think that that was just a ruse to get rid of all the entrenched Reaganites and rehire.

Clinton did more to shrink federal spending than any president since.
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It will be interesting to see how many are rehired after all the smoke clears and finding some areas are understaffed.
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Jeeper79 said:

Farmer_J said:


I see a lot of posts about how Clinton cut the federal work source by 15% when he first came into office.

Can't help but think that that was just a ruse to get rid of all the entrenched Reaganites and rehire.

Clinton did more to shrink federal spending than any president since.


After he was dragged to do it by a GOP wave midterm
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Jeeper79 said:

Farmer_J said:


I see a lot of posts about how Clinton cut the federal work source by 15% when he first came into office.

Can't help but think that that was just a ruse to get rid of all the entrenched Reaganites and rehire.

Clinton did more to shrink federal spending than any president since.


What did Clinton do specifically?
e=mc2
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You're assuming there will be another Democrat president.
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Heineken-Ashi said:

Jeeper79 said:

Farmer_J said:


I see a lot of posts about how Clinton cut the federal work source by 15% when he first came into office.

Can't help but think that that was just a ruse to get rid of all the entrenched Reaganites and rehire.

Clinton did more to shrink federal spending than any president since.


What did Clinton do specifically?


Left a little DNA on a blue dress for starters…
BusterAg
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Farmer_J said:


Related question.

Will Republicans remove the expense saved from the next budget?

I doubt it.



The 2025 budget will be much lower than 2024 budget.

Balanced budget by 2028.
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Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

the political landscape is changing. i am not sure going full commie marxist is a winning strategy moving forward.
They seem to be doubling down. They had a terrible candidate so one with more juice can get more traction. Add to that there's no Republican who can do or act as Trump has and you will be in another dogfight to head off mass regulation and bureaucratization.
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TexasAggie73 said:

It will be interesting to see how many are rehired after all the smoke clears and finding some areas are understaffed.


This is actually Elon's philosophy developed it tesla. He said repeatedly that if you don't end up hiring back 10%, you didn't cut enough.
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Jeeper79 said:

Farmer_J said:


I see a lot of posts about how Clinton cut the federal work source by 15% when he first came into office.

Can't help but think that that was just a ruse to get rid of all the entrenched Reaganites and rehire.

Clinton did more to shrink federal spending than any president since.


This is absolutely true, thanks to entitlement reform. But, this lacks context without mentioning Newt.
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Farmer_J said:


Will Republicans remove the expense saved from the next budget?

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Memorializing the budget cuts and agency deletions by legislation will go a long way to stymying or preventing any quick return. Repealing or materially reducing the income tax further cuts off a revenue stream that could otherwise provide for rehiring.

That all said, given enough time, Washington can absolutely reconstitute itself - but it would take a decade (or several) to get back to where we are now.
G Martin 87
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It took decades to build the current Swamp. Something will grow back to replace this version if the petty thieves are allowed to gain control without supervision again.
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Farmer_J said:


I see a lot of posts about how Clinton cut the federal work source by 15% when he first came into office.

Can't help but think that that was just a ruse to get rid of all the entrenched Reaganites and rehire.

Obama was the truly evil one. Clinton wanted to steal the eggs, Obama wanted to kill the chicken.

As to the OP this is an interesting time with dramatic change happening. Anyone who thinks they know where this ends is guessing. Musk changes everything with the combination of brilliance, wealth, power, and most of all having a platform like X. He is smarter, richer, more savvy and fearless in terms of taking risks than any person on the planet and he has the ability to control how his message gets out. He is essentially planning to do to the government what he did to Twitter but it is simply beyond most people's comprehension, yet I would be careful to bet against him.

Musk is a truly transcendent figure that has done many things people thought to be impossible and he seems to be doing more of them at an ever increasing rate as he grows in wealth and power. I would not underestimate him, especially when you pair him with a guy like Trump that is happy to give him reign to make things happen and will overlook his flaws. Most of my concerns about Trump in the primaries had to do with the people around him and that he seemed to have ideas but no real plan. Musk going full MAGA changed everything. He gave Trump the thing he needed most.

So will the employees get hired back? I mean maybe but I think the world is going to look very different in another year or two. Once people see the level of waste and corruption being exposed and that the world doesn't come to an end without the bureaucrats that's hard to unsee. It's still too fresh though to be able to quantify it and Musk and Trump are really just getting started. I think the big stuff hasn't remotely begun to come out yet, that happens when the audits of the Treasury, the Fed, Social Security and Medicare, and the DOD happen. That's where the real money and power is.
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BusterAg said:

Farmer_J said:


Related question.

Will Republicans remove the expense saved from the next budget?

I doubt it.



The 2025 budget will be much lower than 2024 budget.

Balanced budget by 2028.


Absolutely zero chance of a balanced budget.
Logos Stick
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Yes. They will also open the borders, start using NGOs to do their bidding, use the DOJ to target their political opponents, etc.

We must pursue a national divorce. The left is lawless and degenerate.
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Jeeper79 said:

Farmer_J said:


I see a lot of posts about how Clinton cut the federal work source by 15% when he first came into office.

Can't help but think that that was just a ruse to get rid of all the entrenched Reaganites and rehire.

Clinton did more to shrink federal spending than any president since.


That Clinton could not run as a democrat today. He would be considered hard right.
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Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

the political landscape is changing. i am not sure going full commie marxist is a winning strategy moving forward.


I hope you're right, but the commies are never going away. They have been working their agenda for more than 100 years and will never give up. And we shouldn't either. We will always be the thorn in their side which prevents them from achieving their objective.
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Teslag said:

Jeeper79 said:

Farmer_J said:


I see a lot of posts about how Clinton cut the federal work source by 15% when he first came into office.

Can't help but think that that was just a ruse to get rid of all the entrenched Reaganites and rehire.

Clinton did more to shrink federal spending than any president since.



After he was dragged to do it by a GOP wave midterm



True. In 94 Gingrich proposed the Contract With America which called for balancing the budget, among other things. That platform got the Republicans the House for the first time in 50 years. But after a successful period spending went back to normal.
General Jack D. Ripper
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How will the leftists mount a campaign? We've exposed the grift of taxpayer money going to leftist NGOs, which is then funded to media and back to the DNC. The machine appears on life support.
But I know no matter what the waitress brings
I shall drink it and always be full, yeah I will drink it and always be full
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AgResearch said:

BusterAg said:

Farmer_J said:


Related question.

Will Republicans remove the expense saved from the next budget?

I doubt it.



The 2025 budget will be much lower than 2024 budget.

Balanced budget by 2028.


Absolutely zero chance of a balanced budget.


Give me 5 to 1 odds?
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BusterAg said:

Farmer_J said:


Related question.

Will Republicans remove the expense saved from the next budget?

I doubt it.



The 2025 budget will be much lower than 2024 budget.

Balanced budget by 2028.


Totally cool with that as long as the balancing isn't done off the backs of the top few percent of tax payers. Everyone should pay their part of the deficit.
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Tom Fox said:

BusterAg said:

Farmer_J said:


Related question.

Will Republicans remove the expense saved from the next budget?

I doubt it.



The 2025 budget will be much lower than 2024 budget.

Balanced budget by 2028.


Totally cool with that as long as the balancing isn't done off the backs of the top few percent of tax payers. Everyone should pay their part of the deficit.



I would prefer massive entitlement reform, the complete elimination of NGO, massive cuts to foreign aid, and reasonable cuts to the fed workforce
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