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But you haven't earned a free ride at the expense of the tax payer.

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American tax payers exist because folks chose to swear allegiance and fight for this country. What I have is not a free ride, I earned everything I received

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What is your rating for and what was your job?

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I don't know why you think his private medical history is any of your business. How much of your medical history do you want to share with the group?

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He's free to say "no thanks" but I'm sure he also appreciates you standing up for him so bravely.

So if you were forced to take the Vax because someone was going to destroy your career otherwise and then were diagnosed with a heart condition, do you get to claim a disability?

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JFC, you guys are the energizer bunny when anyone disagrees with ANYTHING vet related. My BIL had to stop his handyman business after a couple years because he said it was killing his back, which he hurt while in the AF. I'm sure he may have a tweaked knee, tennis elbow, or a multitude of other physical ailments that we aren't going to talk about while sipping eggnog at Christmas. My response to Tesla was that my BIL does not have PTSD.

Some of you really get your defenses up if someone disagrees with any program, benefit, etc for veterans.

I'm not going to abandon my conservative principles because whatever goes through a legislative body has a 'disabled veteran' label slapped on it. I've stated in previous posts that veterans deserve additional benefits due to circumstances of their service.

Don't get on your GD soapbox and talk down to every other poster on this board every time a NEW benefit is debated.

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We get defensive because the same posters are willfully ignorant on this topic every time it comes up. So much stupid **** comes out of people's keyboards every time the topic of VA ratings is discussed, it's ridiculous. Everyone has an anecdote about the guy their cousin's brother saw at the gym with DV plates, or the discussion forum that they heard about where vets discuss how to "game the system". But they sure as hell don't want to hear about the vets that the system left behind, the ones whose clearly service-related injuries who had claims denied due to inadequate documentation or incompetence in the rating system, or the ones whose killed themselves in the VA parking lot in one last futile attempt to draw attention to their mistreatment at the hands of those who were supposed to care for them after their service.

In reality, you don't know what you're talking about, and half of you refuse to listen to posters with actual knowledge of how the VA claims process works because you don't like them. I'm no TeslaAg fan, and I disagree with him on plenty of his posts, but he knows what he is talking about when it comes to the VA. And honestly, you don't. So instead of hiding behind your "conservative principles" how about you learn something about the subject before you spout off about it?

With regards to the bill to change the property tax exemption, feel free to call your congressman and express your opinion. I doubt this bill ever makes it to a vote, but if it does, I doubt your opinion will hold a lot of weight. Texas takes pride in how we care for those of us who served, and I don't expect that to change any time soon.

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I believe you get defensive because you know people that abuse the system, but your 'brothers are getting theirs' so WGAS, right? I think the % of disabled vets actively gaming the system is low, but it is definitely not zero.

I bet if you polled this board and asked if any current VA entitlement should be removed, you would get near 100% no. We appreciate what our servicemen and women have done on the battlefield, even when we don't think they should have been deployed. You have earned respect from this nation and compensation for things that happened to you in LOD.

But you haven't earned a free ride at the expense of the tax payer. New veteran programs need to meet a certain level of scrutiny. Was there a hole in the original program where vets fell through the cracks? Let's patch it. Are there other impacts of service that we didn't know at the time that are affecting our vets? Let's fix it. 99% of this board is for that.

Do partially disabled vets need their property tax decreased by 70, 80%? I don't think so, but let's debate the merits of that question, not what that disability rating means.

The one negative thing I will say to you is that you, and many others, say you served your country out of a sense of duty. If that is true, and you knew what after service programs were available before you enlisted, why do you fight so hard for new benefits? You knew the benefit package before you signed.

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I know personally don't know a single vet who has committed fraud to get VA benefits. I've heard the same stories that get bounced around here. If I did, I'd happily report them. Because that **** pisses me off. As someone said, perception is reality, and **** like that is amplified and makes it so much harder for those that do need help.

On the other hand, I know dozens of vets who won't file for benefits they need, either out of selfish pride or because of a stigma perpetrated by an ignorant public that thinks any vet getting VA disability who isn't an amputee is getting over and committing fraud. I probably know a dozen more with legit, debilitating service-connected injuries who were completely denied by the VA due to messed up or missing documentation.

I've never asked for a single new benefit that wasn't available when I enlisted. But I'm glad the expansion of those benefits has happened. I enlisted in 1999, long before GWOT, burn pits, and explosion of rare cancers, respiratory and nervous disorders,, 2 decades of endless deployments, skyrocketing rates of PTSD and veteran suicide, etc. so I'd say that, over these two and a half decades of service, a lot more was asked of me than what anyone expected back then. So I'm grateful that our nation has seen fit to provide benefits to help alleviate some of those unexpected burdens. I sure wish the VA would do a better job of getting that help to those who need it, including those who were left behind from previous wars. Ever hear of Gulf War syndrome. The VA denied it even existed for years and refused to research it or treat it.

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If you would have read my post, you would know I agree with just about everything you just said

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Never said I did and my VA disability certainly isn't something I can live on and support a family of five

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I'm guessing you hit the wrong post to quote with this?

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But you haven't earned a free ride at the expense of the tax payer.

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American tax payers exist because folks chose to swear allegiance and fight for this country. What I have is not a free ride, I earned everything I received

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Once again, reread my post and check your reading comprehension

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Don't speak out both sides of your mouth, I agree with half your statement but vehemently disagree with the rest of it

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You took one sentence out of my entire post and you say that I am speaking out of both sides of MY mouth? Check the paragraph above that sentence. I clearly stated that current VA benefits are well deserved. My argument is that new benefits that the legislature creates should be scrutinized.

When I say free ride, and you in turn saying you earned everything, does that mean that a 4 year contract in the military should earn you a retirement package for the rest of your life? If you did a tour of duty in a combat zone you shouldn't ever have to pay income tax?

Talk about talking out of both sides of the mouth! You've earned everything you've received, why are you asking for more?

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Your assertion s are ridiculous. No one gets a retirement package for the rest of their life after serving 4 years. That's absolute hyperbole. Does someone who served have the right to file a claim for service-connected injuries sustained while they were in service? Absolutely. But it's no "retirement package". And VA ratings can and are reevaluated and reduced if the condition that caused the rating improves.

Literally no one made a claim that serving a combat tour should exempt you from paying income tax. Stop making **** up.

If you want to "scrutinize" new benefits, I'm all for it. Take this property tax exemption, for example. From what I can find, it was passed in 2011, went into effect in 2012, and hasn't changed since. Considering the increase in housing costs over the last 13 years, this appears to me to be an attempt to adjust the old legislation to keep up with rising housing costs. By making it a strict percentage instead of a specific dollar amount, the legislature is probably attempting to make it self adjusting so they won't have to revisit the topic every few years.

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JFC, you guys are the energizer bunny when anyone disagrees with ANYTHING vet related. My BIL had to stop his handyman business after a couple years because he said it was killing his back, which he hurt while in the AF. I'm sure he may have a tweaked knee, tennis elbow, or a multitude of other physical ailments that we aren't going to talk about while sipping eggnog at Christmas. My response to Tesla was that my BIL does not have PTSD.

Some of you really get your defenses up if someone disagrees with any program, benefit, etc for veterans.

I'm not going to abandon my conservative principles because whatever goes through a legislative body has a 'disabled veteran' label slapped on it. I've stated in previous posts that veterans deserve additional benefits due to circumstances of their service.

Don't get on your GD soapbox and talk down to every other poster on this board every time a NEW benefit is debated.

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We get defensive because the same posters are willfully ignorant on this topic every time it comes up. So much stupid **** comes out of people's keyboards every time the topic of VA ratings is discussed, it's ridiculous. Everyone has an anecdote about the guy their cousin's brother saw at the gym with DV plates, or the discussion forum that they heard about where vets discuss how to "game the system". But they sure as hell don't want to hear about the vets that the system left behind, the ones whose clearly service-related injuries who had claims denied due to inadequate documentation or incompetence in the rating system, or the ones whose killed themselves in the VA parking lot in one last futile attempt to draw attention to their mistreatment at the hands of those who were supposed to care for them after their service.

In reality, you don't know what you're talking about, and half of you refuse to listen to posters with actual knowledge of how the VA claims process works because you don't like them. I'm no TeslaAg fan, and I disagree with him on plenty of his posts, but he knows what he is talking about when it comes to the VA. And honestly, you don't. So instead of hiding behind your "conservative principles" how about you learn something about the subject before you spout off about it?

With regards to the bill to change the property tax exemption, feel free to call your congressman and express your opinion. I doubt this bill ever makes it to a vote, but if it does, I doubt your opinion will hold a lot of weight. Texas takes pride in how we care for those of us who served, and I don't expect that to change any time soon.

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I believe you get defensive because you know people that abuse the system, but your 'brothers are getting theirs' so WGAS, right? I think the % of disabled vets actively gaming the system is low, but it is definitely not zero.

I bet if you polled this board and asked if any current VA entitlement should be removed, you would get near 100% no. We appreciate what our servicemen and women have done on the battlefield, even when we don't think they should have been deployed. You have earned respect from this nation and compensation for things that happened to you in LOD.

But you haven't earned a free ride at the expense of the tax payer. New veteran programs need to meet a certain level of scrutiny. Was there a hole in the original program where vets fell through the cracks? Let's patch it. Are there other impacts of service that we didn't know at the time that are affecting our vets? Let's fix it. 99% of this board is for that.

Do partially disabled vets need their property tax decreased by 70, 80%? I don't think so, but let's debate the merits of that question, not what that disability rating means.

The one negative thing I will say to you is that you, and many others, say you served your country out of a sense of duty. If that is true, and you knew what after service programs were available before you enlisted, why do you fight so hard for new benefits? You knew the benefit package before you signed.

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I know personally don't know a single vet who has committed fraud to get VA benefits. I've heard the same stories that get bounced around here. If I did, I'd happily report them. Because that **** pisses me off. As someone said, perception is reality, and **** like that is amplified and makes it so much harder for those that do need help.

On the other hand, I know dozens of vets who won't file for benefits they need, either out of selfish pride or because of a stigma perpetrated by an ignorant public that thinks any vet getting VA disability who isn't an amputee is getting over and committing fraud. I probably know a dozen more with legit, debilitating service-connected injuries who were completely denied by the VA due to messed up or missing documentation.

I've never asked for a single new benefit that wasn't available when I enlisted. But I'm glad the expansion of those benefits has happened. I enlisted in 1999, long before GWOT, burn pits, and explosion of rare cancers, respiratory and nervous disorders,, 2 decades of endless deployments, skyrocketing rates of PTSD and veteran suicide, etc. so I'd say that, over these two and a half decades of service, a lot more was asked of me than what anyone expected back then. So I'm grateful that our nation has seen fit to provide benefits to help alleviate some of those unexpected burdens. I sure wish the VA would do a better job of getting that help to those who need it, including those who were left behind from previous wars. Ever hear of Gulf War syndrome. The VA denied it even existed for years and refused to research it or treat it.

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If you would have read my post, you would know I agree with just about everything you just said

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Cut the bull***** You literally accused me and others of abetting and condoning fraud in the first sentence of your post. And you wonder why we are defensive?

Many service members get a life time retirement package after 4 years. It may not be called that but that's what it is.

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Cut the bull***** You literally accused me and others of abetting and condoning fraud in the first sentence of your post. And you wonder why we are defensive?

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Yep, that's why I ignored his post

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Many service members get a life time retirement package after 4 years. It may not be called that but that's what it is.

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You apparently don't know how the military works, you don't a retirement package after four years of service, you just get out with out with no benefits. The only way you get a lifetime of benefits after four years would be a medical discharge for a service related injury

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Many service members get a life time retirement package after 4 years. It may not be called that but that's what it is.

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You apparently don't know how the military works, you don't a retirement package after four years of service, you just get out with out with no benefits. The only way you get a lifetime of benefits after four years would be a medical discharge for a service related injury

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I'm referring to service members who get large disability ratings after 4 years, which should be clear to you after the discussion that's been taking place. Maybe you should get your head checked too…see if you can up that rating.

Also, no benefits you say? You're saying you don't get your GI bill after a four year enlistment? May want to get that head checked out sooner rather than later.

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Many service members get a life time retirement package after 4 years. It may not be called that but that's what it is.

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There was an E-1 in bct who was 3 weeks into his cycle and got a full retirement and what I will guess is a pretty good VA rating. What did he do to deserve that?

Oh not much. The 5 ton he was in rolled and he was crushed. Pelvis completely destroyed. Both legs above the knee destroyed. Genitals gone! Lots of other internal injuries and he will never walk again or be able to have children.

Damn that guy for wasting taxpayers money!!!

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But you haven't earned a free ride at the expense of the tax payer.

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American tax payers exist because folks chose to swear allegiance and fight for this country. What I have is not a free ride, I earned everything I received

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Once again, reread my post and check your reading comprehension

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Don't speak out both sides of your mouth, I agree with half your statement but vehemently disagree with the rest of it

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You took one sentence out of my entire post and you say that I am speaking out of both sides of MY mouth? Check the paragraph above that sentence. I clearly stated that current VA benefits are well deserved. My argument is that new benefits that the legislature creates should be scrutinized.

When I say free ride, and you in turn saying you earned everything, does that mean that a 4 year contract in the military should earn you a retirement package for the rest of your life? If you did a tour of duty in a combat zone you shouldn't ever have to pay income tax?

Talk about talking out of both sides of the mouth! You've earned everything you've received, why are you asking for more?

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Your assertion s are ridiculous. No one gets a retirement package for the rest of their life after serving 4 years. That's absolute hyperbole. Does someone who served have the right to file a claim for service-connected injuries sustained while they were in service? Absolutely. But it's no "retirement package". And VA ratings can and are reevaluated and reduced if the condition that caused the rating improves.

Literally no one made a claim that serving a combat tour should exempt you from paying income tax. Stop making **** up.

If you want to "scrutinize" new benefits, I'm all for it. Take this property tax exemption, for example. From what I can find, it was passed in 2011, went into effect in 2012, and hasn't changed since. Considering the increase in housing costs over the last 13 years, this appears to me to be an attempt to adjust the old legislation to keep up with rising housing costs. By making it a strict percentage instead of a specific dollar amount, the legislature is probably attempting to make it self adjusting so they won't have to revisit the topic every few years.

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GD, reading comprehension needs to be added to basic training, apparently. I know 4 years doesn't get a retirement, it's 20. Guess what, I also know that a tour of duty doesn't get you out of income taxes you dolt!

In my previous previous post, I said that the current VA benefits for veterans are A OK with 99% of this board, but new stuff keeps coming up 'for the vets' and I made a statement that serving your country doesn't earn you a free ride from the tax payers.

He's arguing that basically ANY new benefits were already earned with prior service. I'm just fighting the absurd with the absurd, the old Rush Limbaugh tactic.

Do you think a 4 year contract should give you a retirement package? If you did a TOD in a combat zone, do you believe you should be exempt from income taxes? You, and others on this thread, haven't found a benefit for vets that you disagree with yet, I'm just trying to see if you can draw your own line in the sand at some point

When you say large military disability payment, not retirement benefits, how much is that?

No, they don't. But feel free to keep making stuff up. I explained exactly what they can do. If you feel that service members shouldn't be compensated for service-connected conditions incurred while they were in the military, then just say so.

As for your repeated question about service connection while on active duty it wasn't addressed to me, but I'll try to answer it. It's not exactly black and white, because every regulation governing medical care, investigations, etc. is convoluted as **** and often contradictory. Generally, injuries suffered while on active duty are considered service connected. However, in the event of an injury suffered on leave or in questionable circumstances, a line of duty investigation can (and should) occur. If the injury was determined to be in the line of duty, it should be covered. If it wasn't, it shouldn't. But that doesn't translate 100%, because the Army isn't the VA. I've personally seen soldiers in my formation with an approved line of duty investigation get denied coverage for an injury. I haven't personally seen it happen the other way around, but I would expect that it has, just given the general incompetence of bureaucracy.

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When you say large military disability payment, not retirement benefits, how much is that?

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I think your wires are crossed buddy.

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Many service members get a life time retirement package after 4 years. It may not be called that but that's what it is.

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You apparently don't know how the military works, you don't a retirement package after four years of service, you just get out with out with no benefits. The only way you get a lifetime of benefits after four years would be a medical discharge for a service related injury

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I'm referring to service members who get large disability ratings after 4 years, which should be clear to you after the discussion that's been taking place. Maybe you should get your head checked too…see if you can up that rating.

Also, no benefits you say? You're saying you don't get your GI bill after a four year enlistment? May want to get that head checked out sooner rather than later.

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Welp. Guess we need to throw out Hazelwood too!

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If the four year contract results in a lifetime injury, yes. So far as your second point about property taxes, I'm pretty indifferent on the subject

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JFC, you guys are the energizer bunny when anyone disagrees with ANYTHING vet related. My BIL had to stop his handyman business after a couple years because he said it was killing his back, which he hurt while in the AF. I'm sure he may have a tweaked knee, tennis elbow, or a multitude of other physical ailments that we aren't going to talk about while sipping eggnog at Christmas. My response to Tesla was that my BIL does not have PTSD.

Some of you really get your defenses up if someone disagrees with any program, benefit, etc for veterans.

I'm not going to abandon my conservative principles because whatever goes through a legislative body has a 'disabled veteran' label slapped on it. I've stated in previous posts that veterans deserve additional benefits due to circumstances of their service.

Don't get on your GD soapbox and talk down to every other poster on this board every time a NEW benefit is debated.

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We get defensive because the same posters are willfully ignorant on this topic every time it comes up. So much stupid **** comes out of people's keyboards every time the topic of VA ratings is discussed, it's ridiculous. Everyone has an anecdote about the guy their cousin's brother saw at the gym with DV plates, or the discussion forum that they heard about where vets discuss how to "game the system". But they sure as hell don't want to hear about the vets that the system left behind, the ones whose clearly service-related injuries who had claims denied due to inadequate documentation or incompetence in the rating system, or the ones whose killed themselves in the VA parking lot in one last futile attempt to draw attention to their mistreatment at the hands of those who were supposed to care for them after their service.

In reality, you don't know what you're talking about, and half of you refuse to listen to posters with actual knowledge of how the VA claims process works because you don't like them. I'm no TeslaAg fan, and I disagree with him on plenty of his posts, but he knows what he is talking about when it comes to the VA. And honestly, you don't. So instead of hiding behind your "conservative principles" how about you learn something about the subject before you spout off about it?

With regards to the bill to change the property tax exemption, feel free to call your congressman and express your opinion. I doubt this bill ever makes it to a vote, but if it does, I doubt your opinion will hold a lot of weight. Texas takes pride in how we care for those of us who served, and I don't expect that to change any time soon.

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I believe you get defensive because you know people that abuse the system, but your 'brothers are getting theirs' so WGAS, right? I think the % of disabled vets actively gaming the system is low, but it is definitely not zero.

I bet if you polled this board and asked if any current VA entitlement should be removed, you would get near 100% no. We appreciate what our servicemen and women have done on the battlefield, even when we don't think they should have been deployed. You have earned respect from this nation and compensation for things that happened to you in LOD.

But you haven't earned a free ride at the expense of the tax payer. New veteran programs need to meet a certain level of scrutiny. Was there a hole in the original program where vets fell through the cracks? Let's patch it. Are there other impacts of service that we didn't know at the time that are affecting our vets? Let's fix it. 99% of this board is for that.

Do partially disabled vets need their property tax decreased by 70, 80%? I don't think so, but let's debate the merits of that question, not what that disability rating means.

The one negative thing I will say to you is that you, and many others, say you served your country out of a sense of duty. If that is true, and you knew what after service programs were available before you enlisted, why do you fight so hard for new benefits? You knew the benefit package before you signed.

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I know personally don't know a single vet who has committed fraud to get VA benefits. I've heard the same stories that get bounced around here. If I did, I'd happily report them. Because that **** pisses me off. As someone said, perception is reality, and **** like that is amplified and makes it so much harder for those that do need help.

On the other hand, I know dozens of vets who won't file for benefits they need, either out of selfish pride or because of a stigma perpetrated by an ignorant public that thinks any vet getting VA disability who isn't an amputee is getting over and committing fraud. I probably know a dozen more with legit, debilitating service-connected injuries who were completely denied by the VA due to messed up or missing documentation.

I've never asked for a single new benefit that wasn't available when I enlisted. But I'm glad the expansion of those benefits has happened. I enlisted in 1999, long before GWOT, burn pits, and explosion of rare cancers, respiratory and nervous disorders,, 2 decades of endless deployments, skyrocketing rates of PTSD and veteran suicide, etc. so I'd say that, over these two and a half decades of service, a lot more was asked of me than what anyone expected back then. So I'm grateful that our nation has seen fit to provide benefits to help alleviate some of those unexpected burdens. I sure wish the VA would do a better job of getting that help to those who need it, including those who were left behind from previous wars. Ever hear of Gulf War syndrome. The VA denied it even existed for years and refused to research it or treat it.

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If you would have read my post, you would know I agree with just about everything you just said

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Cut the bull***** You literally accused me and others of abetting and condoning fraud in the first sentence of your post. And you wonder why we are defensive?

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I didn't accuse others, I accused you.

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When you say large military disability payment, not retirement benefits, how much is that?

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I think your wires are crossed buddy.

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I know they are but it doesn't negate my statements . I just asked you how much you think these large military settlement equate to

It absolutely will get you a rating .

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Do you think a 4 year contract should give you a retirement package? If you did a TOD in a combat zone, do you believe you should be exempt from income taxes?

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If the four year contract results in a lifetime injury, yes. So far as your second point about property taxes, I'm pretty indifferent on the subject

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My second point was income tax, not property. I've already said multiple times that injury, quality of life degradation, and decreased life expectancy due to service should be compensated.

My question about a 4 year contract was if you served 4 years, unscathed, do you deserve a retirement package? There hasn't been a veteran entitlement/program y'all have objected to yet, just seeing if you would object to this absurd theoretical

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If the four year contract results in a lifetime injury, yes. So far as your second point about property taxes, I'm pretty indifferent on the subject

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My second point was income tax, not property. I've already said multiple times that injury, quality of life degradation, and decreased life expectancy due to service should be compensated.

My question about a 4 year contract was if you served 4 years, unscathed, do you deserve a retirement package? There hasn't been a veteran entitlement/program y'all have objected to yet, just seeing if you would object to this absurd theoretical

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The answer to your question is no, folks with a four year contract that get by with out an injury do not receive a retirement check

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Do you think a 4 year contract should give you a retirement package? If you did a TOD in a combat zone, do you believe you should be exempt from income taxes?

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If the four year contract results in a lifetime injury, yes. So far as your second point about property taxes, I'm pretty indifferent on the subject

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My second point was income tax, not property. I've already said multiple times that injury, quality of life degradation, and decreased life expectancy due to service should be compensated.

My question about a 4 year contract was if you served 4 years, unscathed, do you deserve a retirement package? There hasn't been a veteran entitlement/program y'all have objected to yet, just seeing if you would object to this absurd theoretical

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Also, I would object to a retirement check for anyone that doesn't do at least 20 years or so without a service connected disability

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Do you think a 4 year contract should give you a retirement package? If you did a TOD in a combat zone, do you believe you should be exempt from income taxes?

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If the four year contract results in a lifetime injury, yes. So far as your second point about property taxes, I'm pretty indifferent on the subject

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My second point was income tax, not property. I've already said multiple times that injury, quality of life degradation, and decreased life expectancy due to service should be compensated.

My question about a 4 year contract was if you served 4 years, unscathed, do you deserve a retirement package? There hasn't been a veteran entitlement/program y'all have objected to yet, just seeing if you would object to this absurd theoretical

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The answer to your question is no, folks with a four year contract that get by with out an injury do not receive a retirement check

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No **** Sherlock, do you think they deserve it?

If you want to seriously ask if there's a benefit proposed that I would disagree with, than let's discuss a proposed benefit. If something like a 4 year retirement, or lifetime tax exemption was proposed for a single combat tour, I'd absolutely oppose that. This property tax proposal? I've given my thoughts on the why of that proposal already. Do I think it is absolutely necessary? No. I do think it updates the original legislation to account for rising home prices, and I appreciate that. It is clear that Texas wishes to retain and attract more veterans as residents, and this is definitely a good way to do it.

Don't try to act like you were using a rhetorical device when you get called out for your baseless assertions. And to be fair, even if you were speaking in hyperbole for effect, other posters here literally think that's true. So an explanation is clearly warranted, even if you aren't the audience that needs it.

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Do you think a 4 year contract should give you a retirement package? If you did a TOD in a combat zone, do you believe you should be exempt from income taxes?

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If the four year contract results in a lifetime injury, yes. So far as your second point about property taxes, I'm pretty indifferent on the subject

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My second point was income tax, not property. I've already said multiple times that injury, quality of life degradation, and decreased life expectancy due to service should be compensated.

My question about a 4 year contract was if you served 4 years, unscathed, do you deserve a retirement package? There hasn't been a veteran entitlement/program y'all have objected to yet, just seeing if you would object to this absurd theoretical

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The answer to your question is no, folks with a four year contract that get by with out an injury do not receive a retirement check

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No **** Sherlock, do you think they deserve it?

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No, and I've said as much numerous time dumb ****

gkaggie08 said:

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Do you think a 4 year contract should give you a retirement package? If you did a TOD in a combat zone, do you believe you should be exempt from income taxes?

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If the four year contract results in a lifetime injury, yes. So far as your second point about property taxes, I'm pretty indifferent on the subject

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My second point was income tax, not property. I've already said multiple times that injury, quality of life degradation, and decreased life expectancy due to service should be compensated.

My question about a 4 year contract was if you served 4 years, unscathed, do you deserve a retirement package? There hasn't been a veteran entitlement/program y'all have objected to yet, just seeing if you would object to this absurd theoretical

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The kid is either doing a decent troll job or just can't comprehend what you're asking him.

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My question about a 4 year contract was if you served 4 years, unscathed, do you deserve a retirement package? There hasn't been a veteran entitlement/program y'all have objected to yet, just seeing if you would object to this absurd theoretical

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I've said this numerous times in this thread, the answer is no

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If you want to seriously ask if there's a benefit proposed that I would disagree with, than let's discuss a proposed benefit. If something like a 4 year retirement, or lifetime tax exemption was proposed for a single combat tour, I'd absolutely oppose that. This property tax proposal? I've given my thoughts on the why of that proposal already. Do I think it is absolutely necessary? No. I do think it updates the original legislation to account for rising home prices, and I appreciate that. It is clear that Texas wishes to retain and attract more veterans as residents, and this is definitely a good way to do it.

Don't try to act like you were using a rhetorical device when you get called out for your baseless assertions. And to be fair, even if you were speaking in hyperbole for effect, other posters here literally think that's true. So an explanation is clearly warranted, even if you aren't the audience that needs it.

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This thread was literally started about a new property tax exemption for partially disabled veterans, then you guys came in and completely derailed the thread by going after anyone potentially disparaging VA claims

gkaggie08 said:

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If you want to seriously ask if there's a benefit proposed that I would disagree with, than let's discuss a proposed benefit. If something like a 4 year retirement, or lifetime tax exemption was proposed for a single combat tour, I'd absolutely oppose that. This property tax proposal? I've given my thoughts on the why of that proposal already. Do I think it is absolutely necessary? No. I do think it updates the original legislation to account for rising home prices, and I appreciate that. It is clear that Texas wishes to retain and attract more veterans as residents, and this is definitely a good way to do it.

Don't try to act like you were using a rhetorical device when you get called out for your baseless assertions. And to be fair, even if you were speaking in hyperbole for effect, other posters here literally think that's true. So an explanation is clearly warranted, even if you aren't the audience that needs it.

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This thread was literally started about a new property tax exemption for partially disabled veterans, then you guys came in and completely derailed the thread by going after anyone potentially disparaging VA claims

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It was also derailed by folks going after folks that have legitimate disability claims

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Do you think a 4 year contract should give you a retirement package? If you did a TOD in a combat zone, do you believe you should be exempt from income taxes?

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If the four year contract results in a lifetime injury, yes. So far as your second point about property taxes, I'm pretty indifferent on the subject

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My second point was income tax, not property. I've already said multiple times that injury, quality of life degradation, and decreased life expectancy due to service should be compensated.

My question about a 4 year contract was if you served 4 years, unscathed, do you deserve a retirement package? There hasn't been a veteran entitlement/program y'all have objected to yet, just seeing if you would object to this absurd theoretical

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The answer to your question is no, folks with a four year contract that get by with out an injury do not receive a retirement check

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No **** Sherlock, do you think they deserve it?

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No, and I've said as much numerous time dumb ****

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You haven't said it numerous times, this is actually the first time in this thread that you have said no to a proposed veteran benefit

Here. So that some of y'all can feel better now.

Then you haven't been reading my posts, because this is not the first time I've said as much

Francis Macomber said:

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Veteran disability is the biggest scam in the federal government.

If we were really wanting to "root out" waste, then that would be a great place to start.

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If you think that's the biggest scam you are being willfully ignorant

Just look at this page, page number 6 at my posts, I've literally posted over and over what you claim I didn't