𝐈𝐂𝐘𝐌𝐈: Recently, there have been many questions raised about the integrity of the Texas Lottery. On Monday night, an $83 million winning ticket was sold in Austin. Turns out, the retail establishment that sold the winning ticket in the front of the store was owned by the… pic.twitter.com/D62kVnZMw4

— Dan Patrick (@DanPatrick) February 19, 2025

Anyone use these Apps? Jackpocket is the biggest.

Why should anyone be bothered that the winning ticket was purchased through Jackpocket through a store they own?

What's the issue here? Seems like Goeb has run out of things to do.

You buy on an app, then they send you the numbers.

I have used Jackpocket and am curious what the deal is. I guess the concern of maybe the courier is shady and pocketing something they shouldn't, but when you purchased a ticket on their app, you get a digital copy of the ticket. I haven't really researched it because i did it a few times when the lottery was high and I wasn't near a store to purchase my one ticket.

Not sure what will happen here, but I the lottery hasn't delivered all that was promised when it was introduced in Texas so I won't lose sleep if they get rid of it and not renew.

The store gets a cut of the winnings

So I guess they are trying to game the system to get cuts of the winnings?

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Can someone explain the courier system for lottery tickets? You buy the tickets through an app? Seems like digital ticketing would be a really bad idea.

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From what I understand it's purely a convenience play for the customer.

You load $100 on jackpocket APP and you pay $110-$114 (10-14%) to do it. That's where Jackpocket makes their money.

You then put $100 in credits (or whatever) on various lottery games you want to play. Jackpocket goes out and secures the ticket for you and tells you what your numbers are, etc.

If you win anything, Jackpocket pays you 100% of your winnings. They go cash in the ticket to make themselves whole of course.

Unless I'm missing something, I don't understand o'l Dan's issue other than he doesn't like that a Jackpocket subsidiary (or directly them) also own the retail establishment, which I'd guess with zero knowledge that they own lots of retail establishments, because why not? Makes processing the lottery purchases all the easier, and they get some percentage of the winnings since they own the place it was purchased.

From ChatGPT:

Yes, that seems to be one of the concerns. Since the store that sold the ticket and the courier service that bought it are both owned by Jackpocket (a subsidiary of DraftKings), there's speculation about a potential conflict of interest or even fraud.

Possible Concerns:
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Was the winning ticket legitimately purchased by a customer?

• If a customer bought the ticket but the business somehow claimed it as their own, that would be a huge scandal.

Did the business "buy back" a winning ticket?

• If a legitimate customer unknowingly won but never checked their ticket, the store could have kept it and "claimed" it themselves.

Did the courier service manipulate the system?

• Since Jackpocket operates as both a courier and a retailer, some worry they could control how tickets are distributed or sold, potentially giving themselves an unfair advantage.

Was there insider knowledge?

• Some suspect that if the store or courier service had any way of knowing which ticket was a winner, they could have secretly kept it instead of handing it to a real customer.
  

[/ol]This is likely why Texas Lt. Governor Dan Patrick and the Attorney General's office are investigatingif there's any foul play, it could undermine trust in the entire Texas Lottery system.

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So the courier owning the ticket sale location makes sense for the courier because they get a cut of the sales and the winnings from the state.

You buy numbers on an app, they print the ticket at their retail location and get a cut right there for the sale. Then if you win, they get a big cut from the state.

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Since Jackpocket operates as both a courier and a retailer, some worry they could control how tickets are distributed or sold, potentially giving themselves an unfair advantage.

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How?

Im Gipper said:

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Since Jackpocket operates as both a courier and a retailer, some worry they could control how tickets are distributed or sold, potentially giving themselves an unfair advantage.

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How?

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Ask ChatGPT, but I am assuming it's conflating scratch-offs with drawings.

We're never getting sports betting.

It smells.

Former Tx Lottery director accused of rigging some jackpots, interesting read about the shenanigans going on at the Lottery

Lawsuit accuses former Texas Lottery director of fraud, misappropriating funds | kvue.com

Jesus what a bozo

All we need these yo-yos in Texas to do is lower our taxes


Instead this doofus is chasing lotto nothingburgers



That video he made reminded me of this though....

Also - the attorney in the video sounded VERY uncomfortable to be questioned about it. I would have definitely expected the opposite if it was fully clean.

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Also - the attorney in the video sounded VERY uncomfortable to be questioned about it.

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LOL. No he didn't! He was trying to be polite when asked dumb questions!

Why would the public care where a courier buys a winning ticket?

I buy Powerball tickets when it gets really high on Lotto.com
I can choose the numbers or do random and I get a copy of the tickets.

This is just moralizing BS to gain support of the ninnys.

The place that sells a winning ticket gets a cut of the jackpot. It seems like these courier services that are also the owners of the establishment are getting an advantage because they are "buying" mass quantities of these tickets technically using other peoples money.

Stop and Go down the street may get a few hundred people stopping in to buy a Lotto Texas ticket for any given drawing. But this set up that Dan was exposing may sell thousands and thousands of tickets in mass. So, they get an unfair advantage vs other regular retailers.

Stonegateag85 said:

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We're never getting sports betting.

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Funny, I've been betting on sports from Texas for over 20 years.

Im Gipper said:

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Seems like Goeb has run out of things to do.

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I'm surprised he stopped thinking about children's' genitals long enough to be concerned about this.

It's not too hard to imagine electronically stealing the winning ticket from its rightful owner by using analytics on the owner (to see if they have even looked at their winning ticket prior to the draw)…

You don't try to steal any particular drawing, just the one(or ones) where, say, the winner bought a hundred tickets and hasn't looked at them by the time the drawing was done).

You just steal the winning ticket and replace it with a dud.

Would have a hard time trusting an entity possessing the ticket I bought via an app... unless my name or a trust I established was immediately, electronically signed when bought.

Even then, still would not trust.

Im Gipper said:

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Also - the attorney in the video sounded VERY uncomfortable to be questioned about it.

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LOL. No he didn't! He was trying to be polite when asked dumb questions!

Why would the public care where a courier buys a winning ticket?

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He sounded uncomfortable because the Texas Lieutenant Governor called him….you would sound uncomfortable, too.

Im Gipper said:

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It's not a "unfair" advantage.

They created the App and system to create more sales.

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Seems like it's the same as a Stop N Go creating a separate counter to buy tickets so they can make it more convenient for the customer and get more tickets sold. I'm not sure why this is a problem.

And Dan Patrick needs to actually make a point instead of that weirdo rambling incoherent video. He doesn't even state the actual problem, just implies something may be fishy.

I think it is obvious they are gaming the system with that ridiculous storefront used to cover for their lottery ticket selling game. I am not a fan of draft kings being the mastermind of it all either. The whole thing stinks but Dan seems too simple to get to the bottom of it.

Im Gipper said:

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It's not a "unfair" advantage.

They created the App and system to create more sales.

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I was just coming here to start a thread on this and checked the forum first. It's a pretty brilliant app really that I was unfamiliar with until just now reading this.

I bought a $1 quick pick today which I do about twice a month and rarely ever even seem to get 1 number right, let alone all 6. Guy at the counter asks me if I heard that someone one with a ticket purchased online that is now under investigation. I said no.

I don't really blame Patrick for the scrutiny here. It may be all on the up and up but in this day and age of hacking and fraud, and then you throw in Draft Kings and the fact the store owns the courier it does seem a bit suspect.

Or he could just be trying to put a dark cloud over other forms of future, potential legalized gambling which is all the lottery is anyway but with much worse odds.

They've also solved the anonymity problem, so they're definitely providing a worthwhile service. The regulators had a chance to deny the store the ability to sell lotto tickets but they didn't. If Dan is unhappy that all they sell is games, he should lobby to have the law changed. I support this new method of buying lottery tickets.

If the lotto doesn't work when people buy more tickets, there's something wrong with the lottery, not the people buying the tickets. We should really be asking why Dan is upset that more money is coming into the lottery if more money in equals more money for the state coffers (for education…won't someone think of the children).

Texas state government leadership focused on the dumbest ****. No wonder Democrats love their friends helping them out

Set up some front for a retail business that really doesn't sell anything, try to collect as many lotto ticket buyers as you can with an app, issue as many lotto tickets as you can through the app, get a small percentage of each lotto ticket sale, and increase your chances of selling the winning ticket. Not sure what the retailer cut is on selling a lotto ticket, but that is probably where the big money is.

Sid Farkas said:

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It's not too hard to imagine electronically stealing the winning ticket from its rightful owner by using analytics on the owner (to see if they have even looked at their winning ticket prior to the draw)…

You don't try to steal any particular drawing, just the one(or ones) where, say, the winner bought a hundred tickets and hasn't looked at them by the time the drawing was done).

You just steal the winning ticket and replace it with a dud.

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That's not how it works. This is for lottery number picks, and each purchase is serialized. When they get your ticket, you get an email confirming the numbers and serial number. When numbers are drawn, the lottery knows what picks we're made and what serial numbers are winners. They can't just replace a winning ticket with a losing ticket because you have the documentation that proves you own that serial number and rights to it. Even if you don't look at it or never do anything with it, you own it. Trying to cash someone else's ticket and keep the proceeds comes with all sorts of risks for fraud and theft charges. If they can the ticket, they either have to give it to you or turn it over to the state as unclaimed property.

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Also - the attorney in the video sounded VERY uncomfortable to be questioned about it.

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LOL. No he didn't! He was trying to be polite when asked dumb questions!

Why would the public care where a courier buys a winning ticket?

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Not true. He sounded very uncomfortable and agreed with Patrick more than once that he could see how the whole operation could look nefarious.