Trump to Invoke 1798 Alien Enemies Act

60,526 Views | 567 Replies | Last: 25 days ago by American Hardwood
aggiehawg
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Cru said:

Could this be done?

How about an executive order that requires a 5 panel judge review before an injunction or stay can be enacted. Then if a single judge tries you ignore it for not following the EO. Or go crazy and say 50 panel. Just something to force it.

No, not by EO.

Congress would need to do that, IMO.
will25u
How long do you want to ignore this user?
The Trens Gang ACLU lawyers named their filing originally as a habeas case.

APA can only be used if no other justification can be used. In this case, the only justification for a court to use as jurisdiction under AEA is habeas. Judge even told the ACLU to drop the habeas part of the lawsuit so they could try to keep the case in DC. Also, the APA is for final AGENCY action. The President is not an agency, and the President is the ultimate word in AEA.

DC has no jurisdiction for the 5 gangbangers as they are in TX and habeas has to be brought where the prisoners are.

Judges can't substitute their judgement of an action for the President. They are not privy to all the information the President is. Also how would that even work? After Sept 11, could a Judge TRO Bush to not launch attacks back to Afghanistan/Bin Laden? Could a Judge TRO the assassination of Bin Laden?

A district judge is usurping the power of the President. An appointed judge is attempting to control what a president can and can't do, even powers explicitly laid out in the Constitution.

Boasberg is a partisan hack with terminal TDS.
Im Gipper
How long do you want to ignore this user?

I'm Gipper
Im Gipper
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Bozoberg back at it!


I'm Gipper
nortex97
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Judge bozoberg notes irrelevant facts in tantrum within his courtroom;
Quote:

BOASBERG emphasizing that it was luck that he was available at 7:30AM on Saturday morning to hear the lawsuit filed at 1:12AM to block some of the Alien Enemies Act deportations. He notes that the rush appeared intended to avoid litigation and court scrutiny.

Boasberg notes that despite the concerns he raised at the early morning hearing, and the fact that he scheduled a 5pm hearing, the government continued to race to put people on planes and have them take off before he could rule.

He notes the case of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, who the government has admitted was on the 3rd plane (though not an Alien Enemies Act deportee) erroneously.
"You were doing other things that were irrelevant to my opinion as to the case presented but I also disliked them and it pisses me off. Me very angry."


"Who heard my tirade, I demand to know!" -bite me. I really think he's lost it.
MiamiHopper
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Based on his comments and tone I'd be surprised if he doesn't believe he has probable cause to find contempt.
Im Gipper
How long do you want to ignore this user?

I'm Gipper
Hoyt Ag
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Barrett sided with the liberals. Shocking.
Ag87H2O
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Take that Boasberg. Deportation attorneys chomping at the bit waiting for the calls to come flooding in.

Edit - wrong emoji.
HoustonAg9999
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Wtf with Barrett very disappointed
Rapier108
How long do you want to ignore this user?

"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
annie88
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
HoustonAg9999 said:

Wtf with Barrett very disappointed


She's turned out to be just God awful. Not what she claimed to be.
Ag with kids
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Ag87H2O said:

Take that Boasberg. Deportation attorneys chomping at the bit waiting for the calls to come flooding in.

Edit - wrong emoji.
This is the next step in the lawfare...

But, the administration should start spreading these people all over every district. And spread the timing out so they can't get more than a few in each case.

Move them every day so that's it's harder for the NGOs/Soros *******s to know who will be where. They will be given notice but they may run out of money and lawyers if they continue doing this.
Ag with kids
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Rapier108 said:



So...what's he going to talk about?

Sorry all y'all. The SCOTUS ***** slapped me for thinking I had jurisdiction?
Rapier108
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Ag with kids said:

Rapier108 said:



So...what's he going to talk about?

Sorry all y'all. The SCOTUS ***** slapped me for thinking I had jurisdiction?
He'll probably issue an injunction this time since his TRO got blocked.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
Ellis Wyatt
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Rapier108 said:

Ag with kids said:

Rapier108 said:



So...what's he going to talk about?

Sorry all y'all. The SCOTUS ***** slapped me for thinking I had jurisdiction?
He'll probably issue an injunction this time since his TRO got blocked.
Likely. The tactic is to delay at all costs. He doesn't care about it the rule of law or the Constitution
will25u
How long do you want to ignore this user?
He is also trying to hold people in Trump Admin in contempt. Probably Trump himself so the have impeachment fodder.
HoustonAg75
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Invoke it to whom?
Ellis Wyatt
How long do you want to ignore this user?
He invoked it to deport third world terrorists.
FatZilla
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Didn't the scotus opinion state DC was not the correct venue since the 5 that were sued on behalf of are in Texas? How can boasberg even issue a new order?
Ellis Wyatt
How long do you want to ignore this user?
He doesn't care. He's a corrupt leftist.
Ag with kids
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
will25u said:

He is also trying to hold people in Trump Admin in contempt. Probably Trump himself so the have impeachment fodder.
I agree with that...

They've got to have something to continue the RESIST movement.




The great thing is that they learned no lessons from the last election...They think the country didn't elect Kamala/Democrats because they didn't go farther to the left.
Ag with kids
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
FatZilla said:

Didn't the scotus opinion state DC was not the correct venue since the 5 that were sued on behalf of are in Texas? How can boasberg even issue a new order?
Because reasons?
agAngeldad
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Congress needs to act on district judges.
FatZilla
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
BMX Bandit
How long do you want to ignore this user?
If you are thinking Boasberg will hold Trump in contempt, prepare to be disappointed
Ellis Wyatt
How long do you want to ignore this user?
I don't know what Boasberg will do. I just know that it will probably have no basis in law.
Im Gipper
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Hearing off!

Allowing one last gasp of air before sinking into the toilet water and the turd begrudgingly being flushed!


I'm Gipper
Im Gipper
How long do you want to ignore this user?


Hearing Friday.

I'm Gipper
Ag with kids
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Im Gipper said:



Hearing Friday.
Are these the habeas petitions that SCOTUS said should have been done instead of the APA claims in Boasberg's court?
Im Gipper
How long do you want to ignore this user?
The Complaint and full Docket are not available on Courtlisterner, but I believe that is correct!

(Meaning its for sure a habeas claim, but they may have other claims)

I'm Gipper
will25u
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Thread



Also...
BMX Bandit
How long do you want to ignore this user?
the problem with that theory is that Trump is never going to have to "prove" that TdA or any other group is part of a predatory incursion. That is solely the decision of the president as a war power given by Congress shortly after the constitution was ratified. it is not reviewable.

even if some district judge says it is reviewable, Trump would still not have to prove anything because it that ruling would get overturned on appeal
will25u
How long do you want to ignore this user?
BMX Bandit said:

the problem with that theory is that Trump is never going to have to "prove" that TdA or any other group is part of a predatory incursion. That is solely the decision of the president as a war power given by Congress shortly after the constitution was ratified. it is not reviewable.

even if some district judge says it is reviewable, Trump would still not have to prove anything because it that ruling would get overturned on appeal


They still have due process. Albeit is only limited to habeas under AEA.

280,000+ is a lot though. But if they do have to report intelligence info back to the CCP, that is an issue.
JFABNRGR
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
A friend of mine is an investigator working for tu, he reports directly to the President of the University. He told me 90% of his case load is spying by the Chinese. He also commented that Texas A&M leads the country in anti-spy efforts amongst Universities combatting intellectual theft.
“You can resolve to live your life with integrity. Let your credo be this: Let the lie come into the world, let it even triumph. But not through me.”
- Alexander Solzhenitsyn
 
×
subscribe Verify your student status
See Subscription Benefits
Trial only available to users who have never subscribed or participated in a previous trial.