Karmelo Anthony murder trial

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If we hadn't taken Darwin out of the equation, people like Jasmine Crockett (or the mouthbreathers that vote for her) generally don't make it to adulthood.


She's like that due in the TN state congress that pretend to talk like MLK, but search old videos of him in college and he's actually Carlton from Fresh Prince.

Justin Pearson. They've learned that antics like this get them noticed by the national progressives which they hope help further their political careers. Its a total sham and the people that vote them into office are too stupid and duped to see it.
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OldArmy71 said:


I agree with you. It does not in any way excuse this horrible, senseless murder, but I do believe it partially explains what was going on with KA.

As someone who grew up in the segregated/Jim Crow South, I have brooded on this issue for many, many years.

White people, including me, like to think to ourselves that black people no longer have any grounds for racial grievance. Segregation and Jim Crow are illegal and long in the past.

The problem is that millions of black people live with relatives--grandparents, for instance--or know people in the community who are my age (77) and who grew up in the same segregated world I grew up in.

The world of segregation is a living memory for those folks, and they pass those memories--and fears and resentments and angers--on to their children and grandchildren.

Many black people are able to go on with their lives and not be trapped in that past, but there are millions for whom that past is vividly real and can control their lives if they let it.

I grow more despairing that our society is just stuck in the past with not much of a way forward.

I see your points but I've actually found the opposite. Not as old as you but grew up and lived my entire life in the South and Mid South and Texas. Most of the elderly Jim Crow era blacks I've encountered who actually experienced real racism think this new bunch are a crop of utter fools who don't know how good they have it and how much opportunity they have. Sure, there are probably some of the older grandparents that are handing down some old hatreds but to me things happening now are a result of more the Obama era racial divisions that were sown.
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Backyard Gator said:

OldArmy71 said:


I agree with you. It does not in any way excuse this horrible, senseless murder, but I do believe it partially explains what was going on with KA.

As someone who grew up in the segregated/Jim Crow South, I have brooded on this issue for many, many years.

White people, including me, like to think to ourselves that black people no longer have any grounds for racial grievance. Segregation and Jim Crow are illegal and long in the past.

The problem is that millions of black people live with relatives--grandparents, for instance--or know people in the community who are my age (77) and who grew up in the same segregated world I grew up in.

The world of segregation is a living memory for those folks, and they pass those memories--and fears and resentments and angers--on to their children and grandchildren.

Many black people are able to go on with their lives and not be trapped in that past, but there are millions for whom that past is vividly real and can control their lives if they let it.

I grow more despairing that our society is just stuck in the past with not much of a way forward.

The problem with people blaming Jim Crow/segregation for what is happening today is Anderson Bonner happened during Reconstruction. Look him up if you don't know who that is. Madam CJ Walker was born during Reconstruction and died during Jim Crow. Junior Bridgeman was born during Jim Crow and died in 2025. Robert F. Smith was born during Jim Crow. There are plenty of examples of people who not only overcame real systemic racism (which is what slavery and Jim Crow was), but thrived and reached the pinnacle of success despite forces working against them. Too many examples to buy the excuses peddled by people today.

You have too many people unhappy and resentful of others because they're not successful, racism is just the excuse they use to prevent anyone from holding them accountable.


As a kid I played at the now soccer fields where Bonner's land was, no idea who he was at the time. From what I remember reading about him he was really good at buying land from people on the cheap, despite not being able to read
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You can pin point your last sentence to one precise moment...."If I had a son, he would have been like Traveon"...all hell broke loose after that race baiter said that
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Agreed. I remember how the few "black" militant types that saw everything as racism were even made fun of in the "black" community back then. I loved all the "black" shows back then. Martin, A Different World, Cosby, ect. The super "woke" characters were always a joke. Like Martin Lawrences character in Boomerang:



Or the Preach character in Don't Be a Menace. Hell the whole premise of Undercover Brother was lampooning how militant some black folks got in the 70s.

Sure they had their messages to watch out for actual racist people and places, but the crit race theory type stuff was just seen as conspiracy craziness. Social media made it cool though.
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I mean sure, but you still can't lynch people. Extrajudicial executions are one of the fundamental things that historically separate civilized and uncivilized societies.

Just seems like an odd and largely irrelevant point to make. Lynching is still incompatible with our society regardless of the person's guilt or innocence.

My point is that they have used pictures of guilty people being lynched as propaganda to push a narrative.


I've literally never heard anyone claim all lynching victims were innocent. I'm pretty sure everyone recognizes that some of them absolutely did what they were accused of doing. That's really not relevant though, because many WERE innocent and many others had committed crimes that no reasonable person believes warrants the death penalty. Moreover, lynching was more than just killing/hanging the person. They were usually beaten, tortured and were often castrated. Thats not something civilized society can permit even for people deseving of a death sentence.

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As for vigilante justice marking the line of civilization, Gary Plauche' would disagree with you.



I doubt very much he would argue what he did should be allowed in our society, or even that it was right. He killed a man who raped his son, I think most men if given the chance would do the same. I certainly would. But that doesn't mean I think it's the moral thing to do or should be allowed.

It was moral and right.


Society ceases to function immediately if widespread vigilante justice is permitted, and that would harm literally hundreds of millions of people. There's nothing moral about that. You're conflating what a guilty man deserves and what a moral and just society can be allowed to permit.
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I'd like to hope that this whole ordeal has caused the swath of white suburban women who have bought in heavily to the woke narrative to consider the monster problems they are feeding.

But I doubt it will.

That sweet sweet feeling of superior moral standing through being an "ally" is too addictive and much easier than being an actual moral person and doing real work to help their community. It's quite a derangement when they are willing to scarifice their own sons for social media likes.
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I am glad the jury found Karmelo Anthony guilty of murdering Austin Metcalf because he was serving an active school suspension for carrying a pocketknife on school grounds. I think a 35-year prison sentence is insufficient for the murder of Austin Metcalf, but the jury made their decision. Screw the pro Anthony supporters!
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It seems you want to argue over whether or not lynchings are bad, which is not a discussion I started, or one I'm interested in participating in.

I'm simply commenting on the way pictures are misused to further false narratives to further a cause, just like false narrative were used as propaganda in the Anthony trial to further the cause of 'racism'.

Completely disagree on Plauche'
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80085 said:

Backyard Gator said:

OldArmy71 said:


I agree with you. It does not in any way excuse this horrible, senseless murder, but I do believe it partially explains what was going on with KA.

As someone who grew up in the segregated/Jim Crow South, I have brooded on this issue for many, many years.

White people, including me, like to think to ourselves that black people no longer have any grounds for racial grievance. Segregation and Jim Crow are illegal and long in the past.

The problem is that millions of black people live with relatives--grandparents, for instance--or know people in the community who are my age (77) and who grew up in the same segregated world I grew up in.

The world of segregation is a living memory for those folks, and they pass those memories--and fears and resentments and angers--on to their children and grandchildren.

Many black people are able to go on with their lives and not be trapped in that past, but there are millions for whom that past is vividly real and can control their lives if they let it.

I grow more despairing that our society is just stuck in the past with not much of a way forward.

The problem with people blaming Jim Crow/segregation for what is happening today is Anderson Bonner happened during Reconstruction. Look him up if you don't know who that is. Madam CJ Walker was born during Reconstruction and died during Jim Crow. Junior Bridgeman was born during Jim Crow and died in 2025. Robert F. Smith was born during Jim Crow. There are plenty of examples of people who not only overcame real systemic racism (which is what slavery and Jim Crow was), but thrived and reached the pinnacle of success despite forces working against them. Too many examples to buy the excuses peddled by people today.

You have too many people unhappy and resentful of others because they're not successful, racism is just the excuse they use to prevent anyone from holding them accountable.


As a kid I played at the now soccer fields where Bonner's land was, no idea who he was at the time. From what I remember reading about him he was really good at buying land from people on the cheap, despite not being able to read

He was a slave who worked hard after emancipation, saved his money, and bought some land. He built cabins on his land, rented them out to sharecroppers, and then used their rents to buy more land. He built more cabins, rents those out to more sharecroppers, and bought more land. Lather, rinse, repeat. He couldn't read, signed everything with an X, yet he understood real estate and how to build wealth. He owned over 2000 acres of the most valuable real estate in Dallas, Medical City Dallas resides on what was formerly his land.

He had 10 kids, and his inheritance was split up among them. I believe there is still an endowed scholarship at Prairie View A&M in his name.
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4stringAg said:

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If we hadn't taken Darwin out of the equation, people like Jasmine Crockett (or the mouthbreathers that vote for her) generally don't make it to adulthood.


She's like that due in the TN state congress that pretend to talk like MLK, but search old videos of him in college and he's actually Carlton from Fresh Prince.

Justin Pearson. They've learned that antics like this get them noticed by the national progressives which they hope help further their political careers. Its a total sham and the people that vote them into office are too stupid and duped to see it.

It isn't just black politicians that do it. Hillary was famous for doing the same thing to. I bet you go back a few hundred years and you'll find the same crap pulled then too. Few things done in politics today are new inventions in that arena.
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https://www.instagram.com/combakkidlilboe/reel/DZaFNafRBVS/

Revenge attack on people not related to the event.
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"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

- Abraham Lincoln
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The race card is all these people have.

It has worked for decades, and now that the card is being declined more and more, the only way they know to respond is with violence.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Bryan Kohberger says hello.
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will25u said:



So weird - she looks like she's about 40. How could she possible be a grandmother?
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StandUpforAmerica said:



Axe....
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These people all want to be George Floyd and his hood lottery family so bad
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StandUpforAmerica said:



A disbarred attorney is the last person whose opinion I'm listening to lol
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There sure are lots of attempts to get some rioting going on arent there?!

Mind blowing that in a case as simple as this one that victim status racism can be used by family and supporters of the MURDERER
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If there's one thing the past two days have taught me, it's that black people and Texas Tech fans are the most delusional people in this country.
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Backyard Gator said:


It seems you want to argue over whether or not lynchings are bad, which is not a discussion I started, or one I'm interested in participating in.

I'm simply commenting on the way pictures are misused to further false narratives to further a cause, just like false narrative were used as propaganda in the Anthony trial to further the cause of 'racism'.

Completely disagree on Plauche'


What Plauche did was illegal. But is was not unjust.
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OldArmy71 said:


I agree with you. It does not in any way excuse this horrible, senseless murder, but I do believe it partially explains what was going on with KA.

As someone who grew up in the segregated/Jim Crow South, I have brooded on this issue for many, many years.

White people, including me, like to think to ourselves that black people no longer have any grounds for racial grievance. Segregation and Jim Crow are illegal and long in the past.

The problem is that millions of black people live with relatives--grandparents, for instance--or know people in the community who are my age (77) and who grew up in the same segregated world I grew up in.

The world of segregation is a living memory for those folks, and they pass those memories--and fears and resentments and angers--on to their children and grandchildren.

Many black people are able to go on with their lives and not be trapped in that past, but there are millions for whom that past is vividly real and can control their lives if they let it.

I grow more despairing that our society is just stuck in the past with not much of a way forward.

I think this is an excellent post. I wish you would make it its own thread, because it's a much broader discussion than Karmelo alone.

You and I are a generation or two apart. I come from a mixed-race family deeply rooted in the western edge of the Old South and its complex, storied history. I can confirm that many of my relatives from your generation have never forgotten the injustices they experienced. The resentment those experiences created has softened over time, but to highly varying degrees depending on the individual, their life experiences, and their personal resilience.
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3rd Coast said:

You can pin point your last sentence to one precise moment...."If I had a son, he would have been like Traveon"...all hell broke loose after that race baiter said that

Yep goodbye White House beer summits and hello "ki** wh*tey!"
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Hank the Grifter said:

If there's one thing the past two days have taught me, it's that black people and Texas Tech fans are the most delusional people in this country.

And the Dutch.
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DrEvazanPhD said:

StandUpforAmerica said:



Axe....

Don't chop me up with the Axe
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Hank the Grifter said:

If there's one thing the past two days have taught me, it's that black people and Texas Tech fans are the most delusional people in this country.

It's not all and probably not even "most" black people in the US.

I've seen countless black accounts supporting the verdict.


NSFW language.
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Hank the Grifter said:

If there's one thing the past two days have taught me, it's that black people and Texas Tech fans are the most delusional people in this country.

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No surprise defense filed a notice of appeal. Standard procedure.
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Gaeilge said:



"Well, doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy?" "A republic, if you can keep it" - Benjamin Franklin
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a trial by jury of your peers = legally lynching
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Rapier108 said:

The race card is all these people have.

It has worked for decades, and now that the card is being declined more and more, the only way they know to respond is with violence.


They overplayed their hand and will continue to lose in the court of law and public opinion. There is a time to claim racism, but a significant majority of those claims today are manipulation. So the claims now fall on deaf ears.
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