Muy said:

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The defense should have plead guilty and put the kid on the stand to show remorse and beg for mercy. They knew that, but apparently they also knew that he was not remorseful and probably would come off as the punk that he is.

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All they had to do was get one black jury member and he walks. That's what they were counting on. It backfired.

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Apparently the potential jurors who are black told the attorneys they can't be unbiased in this.

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And they are all frisco ISD teachers. Comforting.

Oh okay. So they haven't actually gotten instructions. So they are in a weird position of sitting in the back Jury Room but they aren't allowed to deliberate on the sentence. I guess they're just going to talk about the weather.

No I think that's getting it a bit mixed up. From what I read the prosecution struck several educators including some who were black. Defense tried to challenge but prosecutors were able to convince the judge that they weren't being struck because of their race. Several other black people said they could not be unbiased and we're excused.

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Bocephus said:

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Now we get to hear what a true piece of trash he is during the sentencing phase. Hope his family enjoyed living off that crowdfunded money. The truth will finally come out

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You may want to read the thread. It's over.

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Maybe I'm confused here, but my understanding is that now that he is convicted, the sentencing phase begins.

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It ended before you posted

Muy said:

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bam02 said:

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The defense should have plead guilty and put the kid on the stand to show remorse and beg for mercy. They knew that, but apparently they also knew that he was not remorseful and probably would come off as the punk that he is.

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All they had to do was get one black jury member and he walks. That's what they were counting on. It backfired.

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Apparently the potential jurors who are black told the attorneys they can't be unbiased in this.

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Which with such a clear chain of events, is an easy way to extricate yourself from having to sit through the whole ordeal and recognize an obvious guilty verdict, regardless of skin color.

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Oh okay. So they haven't actually gotten instructions. So they are in a weird position of sitting in the back Jury Room but they aren't allowed to deliberate on the sentence. I guess they're just going to talk about the weather.

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If it were Judge Westfall's court they have snacks and sodas.

Just sayin'

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Muy said:

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bam02 said:

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The defense should have plead guilty and put the kid on the stand to show remorse and beg for mercy. They knew that, but apparently they also knew that he was not remorseful and probably would come off as the punk that he is.

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All they had to do was get one black jury member and he walks. That's what they were counting on. It backfired.

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Apparently the potential jurors who are black told the attorneys they can't be unbiased in this.

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And they are all frisco ISD teachers. Comforting.

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The ones that said they can't be unbiased were not the teachers.

How long does it typically take a jury to decide on sentencing for a murder trial? I'm assuming the jury wants to get this over with

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Lawyer ****ed me!

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I thought that was Heywood.

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I couldn't use that one. I would have gotten a time-out.

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DA overheard saying "sudden passion is ok with us"

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What does that mean and to whom

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Can be a mitigating factor in assessing the sentence by the jury. DA has no issue with the jury considering it. Primarily because they were unanimous on the murder charge and did not even get to manslaughter, in which case "sudden passion" was not the focus of this jury.

So DA sees no harm in adding that is my guess.

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How long does it typically take a jury to decide on sentencing for a murder trial? I'm assuming the jury wants to get this over with

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Death isn't on the line so my guess without having personally experienced it is they will talk about it and probably meet somewhere in the middle. Timing will depend a lot on the personalities in the room. I'm sure you will have some people who will want the max and others who will want to be more lenient.

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I went back and listened again and heard the one guy say "he only stabbed him once", yes he stabbed him in the chest directly into the heart and killed him. He was asked to leave multiple times. Why do these court tv nutballs question that the jury came up with murder?! Sounds pretty dang murderous to me. Manslaughter seems more like an accident if anything but KA seemed to have intent to kill someone (he brought a knife with him after all).

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Reminds me of an interaction with a couple of guys I worked with in college my first week there. One guy said he was selling his car and was telling me about it. He wasn't necessarily trying to get me interested, just casual conversation. Other guy walks up, realizes what we're talking about and hears the seller say something like, "it really is a pretty decent car..."

The second guy, "yeah, and its only been stolen twice!!" (He was actually right about that!!)

Is jury deliberating on the sentence yet?

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Jesus CourtTV dumbass saying he didn't know stabbing him where he did would kill him, and he only stabbed him once, its not like it was multiple times

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"Only one inflict, you must acquit!"

The testimony in the sentencing phase seems to be done but I don't think they finalized instructions yet. My guess is there is still going to be some closing argument too but I don't have X installed and the media coverage of this has been less than informative.

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Not to be Debbie Downer, but imagine this trial taking place in CA, NY, or WA. Or possibly even Houston or Austin. Even if no racist black jurors, I would not like the chances in those places given the over-abundance of *****ded white liberals.

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I've heard this take often, about racists black jurors.
I might be naive, but I don't think this is fair to countless black folks, who serve on our juries and follow the law.

Even in this trial, i remember reading that multiple black jurors were not selected, because they were honest about not being able to be unbiased when deciding on a verdict.

Anecdotally, i have two friends who served on murder trial juries, who said their faith in the justice system was restored after serving on the juries. in both cases, black defendants were convicted, and there were multiple black people on the juries.

I'm listening to the commentators on the CTV stream and they are beside themselves. Talking about ineffective counsel and appeals and this that and the other. Do we know if any of these people practice in Texas?

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I'm listening to the commentators on the CTV stream and they are beside themselves. Talking about ineffective counsel and appeals and this that and the other. Do we know if any of these people practice in Texas?

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Court TV loonies are either cali or nyc so called lawyers.

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I'm listening to the commentators on the CTV stream and they are beside themselves. Talking about ineffective counsel and appeals and this that and the other. Do we know if any of these people practice in Texas?

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Screw these people. Welcome to Texas. It's not what it used to be, but it's the last bastion in a lot of ways. The pressure from this ridiculous group of "protesters" and left wing pundits would absolutely have altered this case in so many other states. But not here. Let this be a lesson to the punk kids who want to act like hard asses. **** around in Texas, you're going to find out, just like Karmelo, crying in his cell right now!

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All white jury finds him not guilty…shocking. So many white people have killed black folks with even less justification than Karmelo had and were let off the hook for it. More and more I'm beginning to hate our ****hole of a state, which is sad as I used to be proud of being a Texan.

If my family and friends weren't all here, I'd leave.

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It wasn't an all white jury, it just had no blacks.

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There were three blacks in the final jury pool and it has been reported that all were educators. The prosecution eliminated them not because they were blacks, but because educators tend to be sympathetic toward young people.

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Muy said:

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The defense should have plead guilty and put the kid on the stand to show remorse and beg for mercy. They knew that, but apparently they also knew that he was not remorseful and probably would come off as the punk that he is.

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All they had to do was get one black jury member and he walks. That's what they were counting on. It backfired.

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Apparently the potential jurors who are black told the attorneys they can't be unbiased in this.

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And they are all frisco ISD teachers. Comforting.

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Disagree. It's very comforting that someone can admit to this and tell the truth. I was excused from a civil court trial once because an individual was suing a business owner and they specifically asked if I could abide by the 51% rule. I told them if a business faces financial ruin then I would need more than 51% as I'm also a business owner. I was let go.

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CourtTV black lady analyst..

"Dis is gonna be a problem. The community will not stand for this"

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Exhibit A1 of the problem of much of the black community. What won't they stand for? Being found guilty of a crime he committed? The worst crime known to man?!

The "community" should be using this as an example to their children, instead of seeing it as some kind of injustice.

The "no blacks in jury" is not valid for an appeal. I hope he gets 75 years with no possibility of parole.

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The problem they're faced with is having been infused, either directly or indirectly, with the sick, godless, Marxist ideology; that, because of "systemic oppression" they can act with impunity and society expectedly will give them a pass otherwise it is just further evidence of systemic racism, which is the root cause of all their maladaptive behavior.

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For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts [e.g., revenge] shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.

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I went back and listened again and heard the one guy say "he only stabbed him once", yes he stabbed him in the chest directly into the heart and killed him. He was asked to leave multiple times. Why do these court tv nutballs question that the jury came up with murder?! Sounds pretty dang murderous to me. Manslaughter seems more like an accident if anything but KA seemed to have intent to kill someone (he brought a knife with him after all).

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My mother asked me the difference between manslaughter and murder. I said manslaughter is someone who's driving and staring at their phone as they plow over a pedestrian. (To be fair, that might also fall under criminally negligent homicide). But murder involves a willful, deliberate act that could knowingly cause the death of another.

Baiting someone with a "Touch me and find out" challenge, then sticking a knife in their chest is about an easy of a murder call as there is.

And to the dip**** on Court TV who is complaining because Karmello "only stabbed him once", WTF do you expect of plunging a knife into the chest of another? If he really wants to split hairs, and even allowing for the possession of a knife at a track meet, as well as outright provoking the scenario, the ONLY way I would consider a manslaughter charge would have been if Karmello would have used a slicing motion and somehow caught an artery. And likely not even then. But a full-on stab wound???? Not a chance.

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Karmelo Anthony supporter: "What do I tell my 5 boys? What do we do now!?"

Uh… don't murder? pic.twitter.com/DGrnCbhhe6

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) June 9, 2026

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That if you murder somebody, this might be your lawyer.

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Gaeilge said:

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Karmelo Anthony supporter: "What do I tell my 5 boys? What do we do now!?"

Uh… don't murder? pic.twitter.com/DGrnCbhhe6

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) June 9, 2026

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You literally can't move far enough away from these people.

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Why do you think the Dallas North Tollway is being extended to the Red River?