Karmelo Anthony murder trial

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maverick2076 said:

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kb2001 said:

I've been watching recaps of the questioning, reading some of the transcripts. It makes me question the judgement of the defense team for allowing this go anywhere near a trial. Their best witness even testified that Karmelo was the instigator and was in the wrong.

It also puts in perspective what a sad state our youth are in. He really believes if he went into the tent, provoked a response, and killed someone it would be called self-defense.

He'll have fun time in prison. He's 5'7" 135 lbs.


his parents were too busy milking the cash cow. Plead and the crowdfunding stops. At one point or another, the defendant started to love the smell of his own (and da culcha's) farts. He probably would have gotten something like 20-25 if he pled out.

Any prosecutor that would have offered a plea on this case should be run out of town on a rail.


I can guarantee you they offered a plea -- and it was likely in the 20-25 range asserted here. It might have been 40. The family thought they could bluff their way to an acquittal or at least a hung jury.

You NEVER know what will happen at trial. I've seen trials turn completely on ONE sentence in a CLOSING argument. My firm years ago tried a case on the defense side (civil) where the only reason we went to trial other than settlement is the plaintiff wanted far more than what we were willing to pay. We knew we'd lose, but figured the jury would come back with less than the P's offer. The attorney goes through the case and does an "oh, by the way..." comment in closing (I can't remember the details now, other than that -- broadly speaking) and someone in the jury picked up on it. Jury verdict: take nothing for the defense.

My vague recollection is this was a 6 figure case where we were willing to go something like $125k and were like 40K apart prior to trial. They rolled the dice and lost BIG. True, this was civil, but similar things have happened in criminal cases.

I seriously doubt there is any DA in Texas that doesn't offer SOME form of plea in every case.
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Teslag said:

Ya'll have to watch that Court TV stream. The two black idiots just keep saying WOW over and over again after the guilty announcement,.

Cody Thomas has been pretty neutral during the trial, sharing what he viewed as wins and missed opportunities by both sides. He must hate working with these morons.
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MattAg84 said:

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Do defense attorneys "prepare" their clients facing long prison sentences in any way? Obviously they are there to help their client win, but do they coach them on what to do if found guilty and what happens next when facing decades behind bars?

The movie Get Hard starring Will Ferrell and Kevin Hart called and wants their plot back.

Big Stan did it better
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Dumb CourtTV black lady seems to think this is reversed on appeal easily because of the no blacks on the jury. Welcome to Texas *****. He's going away and staying away.
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FireAg said:

Am I the only one seeing black people arguing with black people in the parking lot in McKinney right now? It's all civil…but it seems to be pretty passionate, civil arguing going on…

They're arguing with everyone.

What on earth could be the people on KA's side be their arguement? What are they pissed about? They think he should have just walked? Insane.
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Just like OJ.

Yes, they think he should have just simply walked.

Whether or not he's guilty has nothing to do with it. Their entire concern is that he's black.

That's it, that's all.

They do not possess the capacity to think beyond that.
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Teslag said:

https://www.youtube.com/live/iNnHJkIsVQE?si=QFQTEdKnie7twSdb

CourtTV stream. You can scroll back to see announcement. These people are ****ing loons.


45:25 to be exact. These people are insane.
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Teslag said:

Dumb CourtTV black lady seems to think this is reversed on appeal easily because of the no blacks on the jury. Welcome to Texas *****. He's going away and staying away.


So facts don't matter with her?
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Lawyer ****ed me!
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Seriously, what is wrong with the mouth of the lady in green on Court TV?
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4 said:

Just like OJ.

Yes, they think he should have just simply walked.

Whether or not he's guilty has nothing to do with it. Their entire concern is that he's black.

That's it, that's all.

They do not possess the capacity to think beyond that.

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4 said:

Just like OJ.

Yes, they think he should have just simply walked.

Whether or not he's guilty has nothing to do with it. Their entire concern is that he's black.

That's it, that's all.

They do not possess the capacity to think beyond that.

Some of their signs say "Self Defense is NOT a crime". Wow.
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MelvinUdall said:

Teslag said:

Dumb CourtTV black lady seems to think this is reversed on appeal easily because of the no blacks on the jury. Welcome to Texas *****. He's going away and staying away.


So facts don't matter with her?

No, they don't.

At all. They don't matter with anyone on the left about anything. The ends justifies the means.

They also don't matter one wit with blacks if it's a black being accused of a crime against a white person.

I hope this helps.
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usmcbrooks said:



Lawyer ****ed me!

I thought that was Heywood.
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valvemonkey91 said:

Teslag said:

https://www.youtube.com/live/iNnHJkIsVQE?si=QFQTEdKnie7twSdb

CourtTV stream. You can scroll back to see announcement. These people are ****ing loons.


45:25 to be exact. These people are insane.

Don't think the guy is enraged enough.
It could be that your purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others. Explains why I come with a warning label. Life is short, drink jager with red bull.
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ErnestEndeavor said:

If I'm not mistaken, for violent felonies Texas parole eligibility is half time. So for example if he gets sentenced to 30 he'll be eligible for parole after 15. There may be a way to reduce that even further through education, but I'm not sure.

Just for clarity...this is not for all violent offenses, but Murder is one of them and it must be half of the sentence in calendar time. It can't be lessened if he's elected pope.
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valvemonkey91 said:

Teslag said:

https://www.youtube.com/live/iNnHJkIsVQE?si=QFQTEdKnie7twSdb

CourtTV stream. You can scroll back to see announcement. These people are ****ing loons.


45:25 to be exact. These people are insane.

The wild thing on that meltdown is their reporter that has been in the room has been decent this whole trial. You could tell he wasn't as sold on the murder charge as the F16 board but he knew this wasn't a good case for the defense
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A Net Full of Jello said:

Seriously, what is wrong with the mouth of the lady in green on Court TV?


She's been sitting at home drinking all day
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DA overheard saying "they want sudden passion - that's ok with us"

The thought is defense wants that added to the sentencing documents and DA is ok with it being included in the documents.
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fc2112 said:

DA overheard saying "sudden passion is ok with us"


What does that mean and to whom
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BMX Bandit said:

Bocephus said:

Now we get to hear what a true piece of trash he is during the sentencing phase. Hope his family enjoyed living off that crowdfunded money. The truth will finally come out


You may want to read the thread. It's over.



Maybe I'm confused here, but my understanding is that now that he is convicted, the sentencing phase begins.
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Bocephus said:

BMX Bandit said:

Bocephus said:

Now we get to hear what a true piece of trash he is during the sentencing phase. Hope his family enjoyed living off that crowdfunded money. The truth will finally come out


You may want to read the thread. It's over.



Maybe I'm confused here, but my understanding is that now that he is convicted, the sentencing phase begins.

You are correct
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The defense should have plead guilty and put the kid on the stand to show remorse and beg for mercy. They knew that, but apparently they also knew that he was not remorseful and probably would come off as the punk that he is.
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If the jury thought the murder was committed in sudden passion, they can give less than 5 years.

The best example is husband walking in on his wife getting plowed and he kills her.
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bam02 said:

The defense should have played guilty and put the kid on the stand to show remorse and beg for mercy. They knew that, but apparently they also knew that he was not remorseful and probably would come off as the punk that he is.


Gotta convince the family and the defendant to do that. They thought he would walk bc he's the victim just as they are
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The sentencing phase has already closed after a very short witness presentation by the defense. The state chose not to call witnesses. Jury is deliberating.
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bam02 said:

The defense should have plead guilty and put the kid on the stand to show remorse and beg for mercy. They knew that, but apparently they also knew that he was not remorseful and probably would come off as the punk that he is.



All they had to do was get one black jury member and he walks. That's what they were counting on. It backfired.
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I went back and listened again and heard the one guy say "he only stabbed him once", yes he stabbed him in the chest directly into the heart and killed him. He was asked to leave multiple times. Why do these court tv nutballs question that the jury came up with murder?! Sounds pretty dang murderous to me. Manslaughter seems more like an accident if anything but KA seemed to have intent to kill someone (he brought a knife with him after all).
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Logos Stick said:

bam02 said:

The defense should have plead guilty and put the kid on the stand to show remorse and beg for mercy. They knew that, but apparently they also knew that he was not remorseful and probably would come off as the punk that he is.



All they had to do was get one black jury member and he walks. That's what they were counting on. It backfired.

He wouldn't have walked. There was no way that the DA wouldn't re-file.
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So jury does not even have sentencing documents yet. It will take a while to get both sides to agree on those.

Maybe we get it done today, but they need to move it along.
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Logos Stick said:

bam02 said:

The defense should have plead guilty and put the kid on the stand to show remorse and beg for mercy. They knew that, but apparently they also knew that he was not remorseful and probably would come off as the punk that he is.



All they had to do was get one black jury member and he walks. That's what they were counting on. It backfired.


Apparently the potential jurors who are black told the attorneys they can't be unbiased in this.
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And a second mistrial and he walks again.

No one believed that there would be zero black jurors.
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BASED JUDGE!!
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FriscoKid said:




You're officially a murderer now. If you thought it was bad before, youre ****ed now
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