Russo Ukrainian peace on a knife's edge

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I predict the ones destroyed in this attack will not strike Ukraine
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Well it was a terrorist attack as they used (and killed) unwitting civilian truck drivers. The targets were still legitimate.


The report was a truck driver was killed when he tried to open one of the false containers and there was a self destruct. But if that story is true that still was an incidental event. Doesn't look like the planned goal was to kill truck drivers.

It is also pretty cynical IMO for Russians to be talking terrorism given the number of Ukrainian civilians who have died the past 3 years…

A true TERRORIST attack would have been the Ukrainians parking those drone trucks near the Moscow/St. Petersburg airports and then blasting a bunch of commercial airliners sitting at the gates, disrupting commercial travel and terrorizing the civilian population within Russia. And it is very clear now that they have the operational capability to do something like that. Ukraine if they wanted could clearly bring this war direct to the Moscow/St Petersburg elites in a Horrible way. If some Islamic extremist entity was running Ukraine that sort of attack would probably already been a done deal.

But Ukraine doing something like that of course would absolutely be in the Terrorism category and turn Western support against them. That would be Ukraine's equivalent of a 'nuclear' and you'd see Russia forced to respond much differently than however they are going to respond to that attack last Sunday..

This incident everybody (even Russia supporters deep down when trying to be honest with themselves) know was a legit attack on military assets during a war. Calling it 'Terrorism' must be hard for some of those Russian propaganda sources to say with a straight face.
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An attack purely on military targets cannot by definition be a terrorist attack. Watching someone try to spin that any other way is simply ridiculous.
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The rail attacks used American C4, fwiw (one of the charges didn't detonate).


Sigh…
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Heres Russia not targeting civilians last night
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The rail attacks used American c4?????????????????????????

On noes! Wait until Russia finds out how many of its tanks where destroyed with American weaponry or that it's flagship was also probably sunk with American explosives. Russia might really escalate and invade or bomb apartment buildings!
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Have been avoiding opening this thread until this morning because I was pretty sure of what I would find. Sadly, I was correct. But I could never have anticipated that there would be attempts to frame this recent Ukrainian attack on russian aircraft as terrorism. Seriously?

SMH...
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Apparently we now have 100 auditors in Kiev.
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The United States has already written off Vladimir Zelensky and has launched serious efforts to remove him from power, former Ukrainian Prime Minister (2010-2014) Nikolay Azarov said.

"This is agony. It is quite clear that the Americans have dismissed him and are now working to remove him from power," Azarov stated on the Rossiya-24 TV channel.

He recalled the recent detention of Leonid Mindich, reported just a few days ago. According to Azarov, Mindich is a "well-known 'purse' of the head of Zelensky's office, Andrey Yermak, and of Zelensky himself."

The former prime minister noted that the detention was carried out not by the Prosecutor General's Office, but by the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine and the Specialized Anti-Corruption Prosecutor's Office. "The Americans established this body, fully staffing it with their own people, so it is subordinate only to them. They gave the command, and Mindich was detained while trying to cross the Romanian border," Azarov clarified.
Trump and Putin had a lengthy conversation yesterday. Trump seems to be pressing for a link with Putin (Kiev) and Iranian (nuclear) negotiations.


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A Russian commander has publicly urged Vladimir Putin to put an end to the war in Ukraine, which has now dragged on for over three years.

According to Kyiv, the Russian military has suffered nearly one million casualties since the invasion began in February 2022. Despite these losses, Russian forces gained only 0.6% of territory throughout 2024 a minimal advance at a massive human cost.

The commander, reportedly serving in a unit near the city of Sudzha in Russia's Kursk region, has now broken ranks by calling on the Kremlin to halt hostilities.

In a recent interview with prominent war blogger Maxim Kalashnikov, the commander was asked what he would do to win the war in Ukraine. His response was blunt: "I would stop the war altogether. Unfortunately, this war won't end until we completely, stupidly kill each other. They are like us. They won't give up, and we won't give up. This will continue until we kill or maim each other and then a third enemy will come and kill both of us."
"When you asked me a question about what I would do, I would just say: 'That's it! Stop!' ", he added.

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Nice find, thx. I assume this is the interview, I was hoping to see if this was a higher-level commander or not, guess not.

Can't dismiss his perspective.
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Pretty sure you can take anything Azarov says with a massive grain of salt:

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Following the victory of Viktor Yanukovych in the 2010 presidential election, Azarov succeeded Yanukovych as leader of the Party of Regions and was appointed as prime minister in March 2010.[1][2] In January 2014, after weeks of Euromaidan protests and the 2014 Hrushevskoho Street riots,[nb 1] Azarov offered his letter of resignation.[4] After the Revolution of Dignity, Azarov fled to Russia and according to Azarov himself, was allegedly offered "political refugee status on the personal instructions of Vladimir Putin".[5] Since then he has been reportedly living in the vicinity of the Russian village of Petrovo-Dalneye, near Moscow.[6]
Since July 2014, Azarov has been on the international wanted list for alleged abuse of power. On 19 January 2015 Kyiv District Court of Pechersk Raion issued an arrest warrant as a preventive measure to allow for the extradition of Azarov from the Russian Federation.[7] Azarov is currently the subject of international sanctions from the U.S., European Union, Norway, Canada, and Switzerland due to his role in the Euromaidan. In 2015, he set up the Ukraine Salvation Committee, a government in exile that was widely seen as a pro-Russian puppet.[8][9]
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Trump (of German descent, oh btw), having fun here about ending the war, and D-day is pretty bemusing.


None of the following statements are true, as shown in the train attacks, dead/maimed truckers, nor ransomed pensioners traded for POW's in the past 2 weeks:
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1. While most of America remains blissfully uninformed by our establishment press, the world's two greatest superpowers are being manipulated by Dark Forces inside and outside our government, into a major military confrontation that no country wants, and no sane person would ever want.

2. I have no role in the Trump Administration, but over a long career in the active uniformed military, specifically military intelligence, I have made it a point to cultivate many sources of information around the world. From what I can piece together, I want to share my deep concerns about who is behind this march to war, and my recommendations for how our nation and the West can avoid a major military confrontation with Russia.

3. I believe that the American Deep State is staffed by those with a deep, visceral, and irrational hatred for Russia, and these persons have conspired to box in President Trump's decision making through the Russiagate Hoax. During the time the Soviet Union was expanding and infiltrating our government, I was an outspoken anti-communist, but, despite the lies told by our Deep State, Russia is not the Soviet Union and Putin is not Stalin. Even today, years after the Russiagate Hoax has been exposed, President Trump's efforts to bring peace are met with resistance. The Establishment Press, deeply influenced and even sometimes controlled by our Deep State, labeled President Trump and those who work for him "Putin's Puppets" to goad him into taking unwarranted and aggressive steps against Russia. These voices from the establishment press reflect the views of the Deep State, not the American People, and not the MAGA movement, and should be completely disregarded, if not mocked.

4. During almost all of the post-World War II period, and certainly since the establishment of the CIA in 1947, these unelected dark establishment forces have acted to destabilize the world, bringing death, famine, assassinations, violence, coups, riots, revolutions, and destruction to our planet. Currently, these forces are working to provoke Russia into a major --- perhaps a final --- military conflict with the West.

5. This provocation has many forms. Most recently, it involves the surprise drone attack on the Russian federation strategic arsenal, said to affect 40 bombers, or about a third of Russia's strategic bomber fleet. Since Russian and American strategic bombers are generally required by agreement to be visible to satellite surveillance, never before has anyone engaged in an attack on these visible targets. If Russian bombers can be attacked with impunity, so can American bombers. By this action, the Ukrainian Government has not just weakened Russia, it has jeopardized America. Thus, those in the Ukrainian government who ordered these strikes have made themselves enemies not just of Russia, but of the United States. Making matters worse, this unwarranted attack was followed by Ukrainian attacks on the Kerch Strait Bridge connecting Russia and Crimea.

6. I do not believe that the recent escalation against Russia's strategic bomber fleet was authorized by or coordinated with President Trump. Rather, it is my view that the Deep State is now acting outside of the control of the elected leadership of our nation. I believe that these persons in our Deep State are engaged in a deliberate effort to provoke Russia into a major confrontation with the West, including the United States. The time is now to take aggressive action against those who abuse their authority as government employees to manipulate the elected leadership of our nation.

7. Growing up in an Irish Democrat family in Rhode Island, I was only about five when John Kennedy was assassinated, but our family viewed John Kennedy as a hero. Not just for my family, one of our most beloved Presidents, John F. Kennedy, in 1961, found himself manipulated by earlier versions of these same Deep State forces when they attempted to manipulate President Kennedy to launch Air Force planes to attack Cuba after the failed invasion, resulting in an open conflict with both Cuba and the Soviet Union. In President Kennedy's June 1963 speech at American University declaring his vision of peace with the Soviet Union, he declared himself to be an enemy of this Deep State, which by all indications then retaliated by participating in his assassination five months later in Dallas. The American Deep State is not only a threat to peace, but a threat to the President.

8. President Trump has already faced at least two assassination attempts. If there is one person who I believe has the character and love for our nation to rid our government of these forces, it is President Trump. After the shooting in Butler, Pennsylvania, President Trump displayed the type of personal courage that those of us who have served in the military deeply admire. With great affection for the President, I now urge him to risk the wrath of the Deep State once again by taking actions to purge enemies of our nation within our agencies and departments. Removing such persons from power is absolutely necessary to achieve the type of peace he described during his campaign and the beginning of his Administration.

9. Once President Kennedy realized he was being manipulated, and opposed because he sought peace, he removed Allen Dulles as Director of Central Intelligence, and several of his assistants. I urge President Trump to immediately clean house of any in government who had prior knowledge of or participated in any way in the Ukrainian attack on the Russian federation strategic bombers, and to go further by immediately declaring an end to any support for the Ukraine War. President Trump is right: this is not "his" War. I urge him to recall all open and covert military and other government personnel from Ukraine. I urge him to have all those personnel removed and interrogated by the FBI or the military to learn of their possible participation in unauthorized military activities. Any Americans who have aided and abetted Ukraine's attacks should be investigated for violation of American law, and prosecuted as necessary.

10. I also believe President Trump should distance himself from certain Western leaders such as German Chancellor Fred Merz, who have acted and spoken in an irresponsible manner with respect to the Ukraine War. If there are countries in Europe who wish to provide military assistance to Ukraine, that is their concern, and they should not be surprised by President Putin's response to their actions against Russia. If such leaders want to lead their nations to war by persisting in such irresponsible behavior, they will go it alone.

11. I urge President Trump to also distance himself from demonstrated war mongers in our own government, chief among whom is U.S. Senator Lindsay Graham. Those who love wars fought by others are no friends of America, and have no entitlement to be friends of the President.

12. Finally, I urge the American people to stand prayerfully and resolutely with President Trump as he cleans house and acts in pursuit of the type of peace which President Kennedy embraced. Peace is not the normal state of man. Freedom requires a price be paid by every generation. It is time to recommit our nation to both.
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Are you still claiming that Ukraine targeted "truckers"? We saw video of exactly one get killed through is own action.

I know you also support Israel, which is good. Do you feel they target Palestinian civilians when some are killed in collateral damage getting hamas leaders?
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Teslag said:

Are you still claiming that Ukraine targeted "truckers"? We saw video of exactly one get killed through is own action.

I know you also support Israel, which is good. Do you feel they target Palestinian civilians when some are killed in collateral damage getting hamas leaders?


Not sure there any many things more desperate/ironic than the pro Russia crowd suddenly pretending to care about civilians when Russia has spent their entire invasion killing Ukrainian civilians. Especially in an operation like this that was actually solely targeting military assets. Maybe the Russians are just confused that Ukraine didn't drone apartment buildings in Moscow instead, but it's pretty clear they are desperately clinging to any talking point to distract from their giant intelligence failure.
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Russians (and Belorussians)have been rewarded for their heroism in stopping the attacks, and one was killed, and at least one other injured/maimed in doing so. I think I've posted that (a) these were valid military targets but (b) the use of civilian truck drivers unwillingly was terroristic.


And the Ukrainians have absolutely struck Moscow apartment buildings deliberately. There's no point in comparing the two sides, again imho, it's just pointless/morally wrongheaded to fund either.
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Not sure there any many things more desperate/ironic than the pro Russia crowd suddenly pretending to care about civilians when Russia has spent their entire invasion killing Ukrainian civilians. Especially in an operation like this that was actually solely targeting military assets. Maybe the Russians are just confused that Ukraine didn't drone apartment buildings in Moscow instead, but it's pretty clear they are desperately clinging to any talking point to distract from their giant intelligence failure.

Agree with this. I find the attempted equivocation to be hypocritical at worst and pathetic at a minimum.
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And Ukraine would have never attacked anyone in Russia period if Putin didn't invade and start the war. Would you like to compare the volume of civilian attacks between Russia and Ukraine? I'm guessing not.

You're correct about one thing though - considering Russia has been sending drones and missiles into Ukrainian cities since the start of the war and is likely responsible for thousands (if not tens of thousands) of civilian deaths at this point, there's really no point in comparing the two.
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and at least one other injured/maimed in doing so. I think I've posted that (a) these were valid military targets but (b) the use of civilian truck drivers unwillingly was terroristic.

Again, this isn't a thing. It is and has always been called collateral damage. Terrorism is the use of violence against civilians to facilitate political or ideological change. This wasn't that. The Ukrainians didn't draw up a list of targets and include "rando russian trucker" next to TU95's and TU22's. And they aren't trying to force political change. They are trying to destroy Russian weapons delivery systems that are being used to kill their populace.

You are simply reaching and conflating in order to give justification to Russia's claims of "terrorism".,
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Teslag said:


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and at least one other injured/maimed in doing so. I think I've posted that (a) these were valid military targets but (b) the use of civilian truck drivers unwillingly was terroristic.

Again, this isn't a thing. It is and has always been called collateral damage. Terrorism is the use of violence against civilians to facilitate political or ideological change. This wasn't that. The Ukrainians didn't draw up a list of targets and include "rando russian trucker" next to TU95's and TU22's. And they aren't trying to force political change. They are trying to destroy Russian weapons delivery systems that are being used to kill their populace.

You are simply reaching and conflating in order to give justification to Russia's claims of "terrorism".,
He's just tossing out his own propaganda to bolster his pro-Russian position, nothing really new here.
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It's not pro- anything to call out using people unwillingly to conduct a military/destructive strike, and violently sacrificing/injuring/maiming them if they resist, is terrorism. The same could be said about those hiding under hospitals/schools etc. in Gaza.
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violently sacrificing/injuring/maiming them if they resist,

When did this happen?
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nortex97 said:

It's not pro- anything to call out using people unwillingly to conduct a military/destructive strike, and violently sacrificing/injuring/maiming them if they resist, is terrorism. The same could be said about those hiding under hospitals/schools etc. in Gaza.


Lololololololololololol

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oh no said:





1. While most of America remains blissfully uninformed by our establishment press, the world's two greatest superpowers are being manipulated by Dark Forces inside and outside our government, into a major military confrontation that no country wants, and no sane person would ever want.

2. I have no role in the Trump Administration, but over a long career in the active uniformed military, specifically military intelligence, I have made it a point to cultivate many sources of information around the world. From what I can piece together, I want to share my deep concerns about who is behind this march to war, and my recommendations for how our nation and the West can avoid a major military confrontation with Russia.

3. I believe that the American Deep State is staffed by those with a deep, visceral, and irrational hatred for Russia, and these persons have conspired to box in President Trump's decision making through the Russiagate Hoax. During the time the Soviet Union was expanding and infiltrating our government, I was an outspoken anti-communist, but, despite the lies told by our Deep State, Russia is not the Soviet Union and Putin is not Stalin. Even today, years after the Russiagate Hoax has been exposed, President Trump's efforts to bring peace are met with resistance. The Establishment Press, deeply influenced and even sometimes controlled by our Deep State, labeled President Trump and those who work for him "Putin's Puppets" to goad him into taking unwarranted and aggressive steps against Russia. These voices from the establishment press reflect the views of the Deep State, not the American People, and not the MAGA movement, and should be completely disregarded, if not mocked.

4. During almost all of the post-World War II period, and certainly since the establishment of the CIA in 1947, these unelected dark establishment forces have acted to destabilize the world, bringing death, famine, assassinations, violence, coups, riots, revolutions, and destruction to our planet. Currently, these forces are working to provoke Russia into a major --- perhaps a final --- military conflict with the West.

5. This provocation has many forms. Most recently, it involves the surprise drone attack on the Russian federation strategic arsenal, said to affect 40 bombers, or about a third of Russia's strategic bomber fleet. Since Russian and American strategic bombers are generally required by agreement to be visible to satellite surveillance, never before has anyone engaged in an attack on these visible targets. If Russian bombers can be attacked with impunity, so can American bombers. By this action, the Ukrainian Government has not just weakened Russia, it has jeopardized America. Thus, those in the Ukrainian government who ordered these strikes have made themselves enemies not just of Russia, but of the United States. Making matters worse, this unwarranted attack was followed by Ukrainian attacks on the Kerch Strait Bridge connecting Russia and Crimea.

6. I do not believe that the recent escalation against Russia's strategic bomber fleet was authorized by or coordinated with President Trump. Rather, it is my view that the Deep State is now acting outside of the control of the elected leadership of our nation. I believe that these persons in our Deep State are engaged in a deliberate effort to provoke Russia into a major confrontation with the West, including the United States. The time is now to take aggressive action against those who abuse their authority as government employees to manipulate the elected leadership of our nation.

7. Growing up in an Irish Democrat family in Rhode Island, I was only about five when John Kennedy was assassinated, but our family viewed John Kennedy as a hero. Not just for my family, one of our most beloved Presidents, John F. Kennedy, in 1961, found himself manipulated by earlier versions of these same Deep State forces when they attempted to manipulate President Kennedy to launch Air Force planes to attack Cuba after the failed invasion, resulting in an open conflict with both Cuba and the Soviet Union. In President Kennedy's June 1963 speech at American University declaring his vision of peace with the Soviet Union, he declared himself to be an enemy of this Deep State, which by all indications then retaliated by participating in his assassination five months later in Dallas. The American Deep State is not only a threat to peace, but a threat to the President.

8. President Trump has already faced at least two assassination attempts. If there is one person who I believe has the character and love for our nation to rid our government of these forces, it is President Trump. After the shooting in Butler, Pennsylvania, President Trump displayed the type of personal courage that those of us who have served in the military deeply admire. With great affection for the President, I now urge him to risk the wrath of the Deep State once again by taking actions to purge enemies of our nation within our agencies and departments. Removing such persons from power is absolutely necessary to achieve the type of peace he described during his campaign and the beginning of his Administration.

9. Once President Kennedy realized he was being manipulated, and opposed because he sought peace, he removed Allen Dulles as Director of Central Intelligence, and several of his assistants. I urge President Trump to immediately clean house of any in government who had prior knowledge of or participated in any way in the Ukrainian attack on the Russian federation strategic bombers, and to go further by immediately declaring an end to any support for the Ukraine War. President Trump is right: this is not "his" War. I urge him to recall all open and covert military and other government personnel from Ukraine. I urge him to have all those personnel removed and interrogated by the FBI or the military to learn of their possible participation in unauthorized military activities. Any Americans who have aided and abetted Ukraine's attacks should be investigated for violation of American law, and prosecuted as necessary.

10. I also believe President Trump should distance himself from certain Western leaders such as German Chancellor Fred Merz, who have acted and spoken in an irresponsible manner with respect to the Ukraine War. If there are countries in Europe who wish to provide military assistance to Ukraine, that is their concern, and they should not be surprised by President Putin's response to their actions against Russia. If such leaders want to lead their nations to war by persisting in such irresponsible behavior, they will go it alone.

11. I urge President Trump to also distance himself from demonstrated war mongers in our own government, chief among whom is U.S. Senator Lindsay Graham. Those who love wars fought by others are no friends of America, and have no entitlement to be friends of the President.

12. Finally, I urge the American people to stand prayerfully and resolutely with President Trump as he cleans house and acts in pursuit of the type of peace which President Kennedy embraced. Peace is not the normal state of man. Freedom requires a price be paid by every generation. It is time to recommit our nation to both.


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Why would you equate posting Gen Flynn's comments to peeing my pants?


Weirdo.
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Think he means the BS is getting deeper than shoe level...
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Trump seems to suggest with Merz presser to 'let them fight' for a while:

Meanwhile;

Bryansk (Russia), and Kiev/Odessa etc. under intense attacks.
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nortex97 said:

It's not pro- anything to call out using people unwillingly to conduct a military/destructive strike, and violently sacrificing/injuring/maiming them if they resist, is terrorism. The same could be said about those hiding under hospitals/schools etc. in Gaza.


Ukraine hits Russian strategic bombers being used to attack Ukrainian cities: terrorism

Russia launching missiles into residential areas, targeting civilian infrastructure, murdering civilians in cold blood, looting, torturing and murdering POWs: Meh... That's just how war is.

Yeah, you're not pro Russian at all. You're just a middle of the road guy calling it like it is.
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Remember when this 3 year war was a 3 day special military operation?
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Leave our favorite orc alone.
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Dude is paid to post here. It's the only reasonable explanation
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Yep, the initial attack was 'interesting' by all measures.

So are the ongoing ones. More interesting bits start around 7:00 in. I'd note the rail lines were repaired within 24-ish hours, and Russian losses are comparatively over-stated as one would expect from a German briefing.

Still, a pretty good summation of the tactical situation. Merz, I have to say, did well today with Trump as well, to my surprise.
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Sitrep:

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A military presentation in Kiev claims that Russia intends to occupy everything up to the Dnieper by 2026:
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Russia Aims to Liberate All Territory East of the Dnepr and Cut Off Ukraine from the Black Sea
Top Kiev Official Warns Pavlo Palisa, Deputy Head of Zelensky's Office, has said that Russia plans to take full control of all the territory east of the Dnepr River in 2026. The operation is also expected to include the strategic regions of Odessa and Nikolaev, which would eliminate Ukraine's remaining access to the Black Sea.

Note the intelligence claim that Russia intends to storm the Dnieper and capture Kherson by end of 2025. Do they know something we don't?
Maybe.
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The usual complaints/lies/half truths from Kiev, as Russia responded inevitably to their touted 'spider webs' and train attacks.


Forever war.
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So what was the military target beyond soldiers? Or was this the only place that they could find enough soldiers gathered to invest multiple cruise missiles in retaliation?

No worries. I already know the answer.
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