Blacks as much as 33% of fed workforce, while they are 14.8% of population

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In reply to hoopla • 9:31a, 4/29/25
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CrackerJackAg said:
The two largest conundrums of being a Christian and a conservative.

Cutting the federal workforce means higher black unemployment .

Banning abortion means a significant higher, black birth rate .

I'll just leave that there and you can think whatever you want .
I'd add that in the 19th and early 20th century, Whites wanting cheap labor helped to bring in minorities to fill those jobs.
Don't forget about the 17th and 18th centuries. Lots of 'cheap' labor was shipped over to the Americas.
Good point, the demand was there for sure.

I mean, it's not like the ships were being rejected by any means.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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In reply to akm91 • 9:34a, 4/29/25
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Now, who is deflecting? It's a simple yes or no question. Are they qualified even though, by your standard, they are overrepresented?
What are the qualification to be CEO vs gov't worker?
Qualifications weren't part of the discussion, according to the OP and Logos. Of course, being a CEO usually requires significant education and/or ability. Or being able to sell your bull**** over others.
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In reply to Ghost of Andrew Eaton • 9:46a, 4/29/25
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My entire point, which I posted more than once, was about the black government workers perpetuating the DEI narrative because they tend to gain an outsized benefit relative to their population by ensuring it remains and grows. They are well fed working for the government, so they encourage and likely ensure their friends & relatives get government jobs. These are all almost assuredly democrat voters, which in turn vote for democrat lawmakers who will funnel and perpetuate the funding and initiatives of DEi which......help themselves and their friends. Which then ensures the next crop of democrat voters, who then also ensure the outsized benefits to a small segment of the population continue. Other democrats of other races seize on this, knowing its key to their own survival to keep the Black population happy and well-fed on the government tit, so they then also join in on perpetuating and sustaining the DEI initiative to ensure their own career in government. It's a never ending spiral that ensures and grows the black reliance on government for both jobs and financial hand outs and incentives.
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In reply to Ghost of Andrew Eaton • 9:52a, 4/29/25
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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:
akm91 said:
Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:
Now, who is deflecting? It's a simple yes or no question. Are they qualified even though, by your standard, they are overrepresented?
What are the qualification to be CEO vs gov't worker?
Qualifications weren't part of the discussion, according to the OP and Logos. Of course, being a CEO usually requires significant education and/or ability. Or being able to sell your bull**** over others.
Qualifications are always part of the discussion when it comes to jobs. Even you acknowledge the comparison between CEO racial makeup and Gov't Worker racial makeup are apples to oranges.
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In reply to slaughtr • 9:55a, 4/29/25
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So let me get this straight. Blacks make up 14.8% of the population, but 18.5% of the federal workforce, which is predominately in urban areas. This is worth 3 pages of anti DEI forum discussion? A 3.7% difference which could easily be explained by the urban demographics?

TexAg's posters will whine about anything, lol.


It is more like 50% to 100% in many areas of the goverment. I work in DOD. In chosen areas you will see blacks make up to 100% of the available billets.
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In reply to akm91 • 9:57a, 4/29/25
akm91 said:
Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:
akm91 said:
Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:
Now, who is deflecting? It's a simple yes or no question. Are they qualified even though, by your standard, they are overrepresented?
What are the qualification to be CEO vs gov't worker?
Qualifications weren't part of the discussion, according to the OP and Logos. Of course, being a CEO usually requires significant education and/or ability. Or being able to sell your bull**** over others.
Qualifications are always part of the discussion when it comes to jobs. Even you acknowledge the comparison between CEO racial makeup and Gov't Worker racial makeup are apples to oranges.
My point about the CEO wasn't about qualifications. The idea was that blacks in government weren't qualified for the job because they are overrepresented based on their demographic numbers.

I'm all for qualifications being discussed over race.
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In reply to FCBlitz • 10:06a, 4/29/25
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FCBlitz said:
slaughtr said:
So let me get this straight. Blacks make up 14.8% of the population, but 18.5% of the federal workforce, which is predominately in urban areas. This is worth 3 pages of anti DEI forum discussion? A 3.7% difference which could easily be explained by the urban demographics?

TexAg's posters will whine about anything, lol.


It is more like 50% to 100% in many areas of the goverment. I work in DOD. In chosen areas you will see blacks make up to 100% of the available billets.
And I work in a Federal facility with 2000 people in a predominately white metro area. I can count the number of black people in my facility on one hand. We can do anecdotes all day.
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In reply to slaughtr • 10:14a, 4/29/25
slaughtr said:
FCBlitz said:
slaughtr said:
So let me get this straight. Blacks make up 14.8% of the population, but 18.5% of the federal workforce, which is predominately in urban areas. This is worth 3 pages of anti DEI forum discussion? A 3.7% difference which could easily be explained by the urban demographics?

TexAg's posters will whine about anything, lol.


It is more like 50% to 100% in many areas of the goverment. I work in DOD. In chosen areas you will see blacks make up to 100% of the available billets.
And I work in a Federal facility with 2000 people in a predominately white metro area. I can count the number of black people in my facility on one hand. We can do anecdotes all day.
I'll add La Raza to the mix, then.

Go to the southern border ports of entry, and you'll see Raza in pretty much every BP position. You can also count on one hand the number of gringos working there.
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1:19p, 4/29/25
The Blacks are at it again.
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In reply to slaughtr • 9:19p, 4/29/25
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I work in a Federal facility...



HAHAHAHAHAHA, tell it again!!!
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In reply to I Am A Critic • 9:25p, 4/29/25
I Am A Critic said:
AJ02 said:
This certainly explains a lot about why the government is the way it is. What responsibilities it should have, and who should benefit the most.

Some federal departments show Blacks make up 33% or more of the employees, yet they're only 14.8% of the total population. As a whole, they make up 18.5% of all federal employees.

https://apple.news/Ak_44EfSqRwGvAesdebeUDA

Now they're worried about the harm to black workers with Trump slashing federal jobs and doing away with DEI. Seems like DEI, in this instance, should result in more non-Blacks getting recruited and hired, given the percentages above.

Why do people think a key role of the federal government is just to create jobs to hand out paychecks??
Look at the comments made about federal workers on this board over the years. Apparently, most people are "too good" for government work then draw dumb conclusions when they find out who's actually doing the work.


Agree. Most federal jobs are pretty low paying, but offset through job security. Not many people on this board would want that job.
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In reply to Farmer_J • 9:29p, 4/29/25
Farmer_J said:
I Am A Critic said:
AJ02 said:
This certainly explains a lot about why the government is the way it is. What responsibilities it should have, and who should benefit the most.

Some federal departments show Blacks make up 33% or more of the employees, yet they're only 14.8% of the total population. As a whole, they make up 18.5% of all federal employees.

https://apple.news/Ak_44EfSqRwGvAesdebeUDA

Now they're worried about the harm to black workers with Trump slashing federal jobs and doing away with DEI. Seems like DEI, in this instance, should result in more non-Blacks getting recruited and hired, given the percentages above.

Why do people think a key role of the federal government is just to create jobs to hand out paychecks??
Look at the comments made about federal workers on this board over the years. Apparently, most people are "too good" for government work then draw dumb conclusions when they find out who's actually doing the work.


Agree. Most federal jobs are pretty low paying, but offset through job security. Not many people on this board would want that job.


That's not true. Look it up.

Per the cbo in 2022, Federal employees had a 5% higher total compensation on average than private-sector workers with similar characteristics (e.g., education, experience).
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In reply to Logos Stick • 9:41p, 4/29/25
Logos Stick said:
Farmer_J said:
I Am A Critic said:
AJ02 said:
This certainly explains a lot about why the government is the way it is. What responsibilities it should have, and who should benefit the most.

Some federal departments show Blacks make up 33% or more of the employees, yet they're only 14.8% of the total population. As a whole, they make up 18.5% of all federal employees.

https://apple.news/Ak_44EfSqRwGvAesdebeUDA

Now they're worried about the harm to black workers with Trump slashing federal jobs and doing away with DEI. Seems like DEI, in this instance, should result in more non-Blacks getting recruited and hired, given the percentages above.

Why do people think a key role of the federal government is just to create jobs to hand out paychecks??
Look at the comments made about federal workers on this board over the years. Apparently, most people are "too good" for government work then draw dumb conclusions when they find out who's actually doing the work.


Agree. Most federal jobs are pretty low paying, but offset through job security. Not many people on this board would want that job.


That's not true. Look it up.

Per the cbo in 2022, Federal employees had a 5% higher total compensation on average than private-sector workers with similar characteristics (e.g., education, experience).


Higher pay or total compensation?

Totally different things. Their insurance and other bennies are top notch from what I've heard.
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9:50p, 4/29/25
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In reply to Ghost of Andrew Eaton • 10:10p, 4/29/25
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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:
AJ02 said:
This certainly explains a lot about why the government is the way it is. What responsibilities it should have, and who should benefit the most.

Some federal departments show Blacks make up 33% or more of the employees, yet they're only 14.8% of the total population. As a whole, they make up 18.5% of all federal employees.

https://apple.news/Ak_44EfSqRwGvAesdebeUDA

Now they're worried about the harm to black workers with Trump slashing federal jobs and doing away with DEI. Seems like DEI, in this instance, should result in more non-Blacks getting recruited and hired, given the percentages above.

Why do people think a key role of the federal government is just to create jobs to hand out paychecks??


Are we really blaming black employees for the state of our government? Seems like bs scapegoating.


Once again missing the point and thinking you have conservatives figured out.
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In reply to aggiejayrod • 12:09a, 4/30/25
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I've probably said this before. I had ten years of experience in an extremely niche environmental area before law school. Maybe 100-200 people in the country really experienced in the area. After I graduated law school I interviewed with the EPA as a baby lawyer in that very specific niche. I was told by two of the interviewers during the interview that I was the most knowledgeable person they've ever met in that particular niche. Not just of the people they interviewed but of the people they've met working. I didn't get rejected or hired, just ghosted by the EPA.

I'm not saying they're ignoring merit but it's definitely something to be told you're the most knowledgeable person they've met and not get offered. Can't say it was because I'm white butโ€ฆ.
Could have been that you knew more than they did. My BIL once didn't get a job because he was more experienced and knowledgeable in that field than the two people who would be supervising him.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 2:34a, 4/30/25
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lobopride said:
Every job I have ever had I had a fear of potentially losing my job. For most people they won't work very hard without that motivation.
Apropos of nothing really, as my Dad died unexpectedly in 1982. But when events interfered to the point I needed to move her again, she had kept the original letters from his superiors about how good of a job he was doing. She called them his "Atta boy!" letters. That was in 2010. Some time after he had passed. But I saw how companies did help and encourage their employees.

Does that even happen now? Is a "Good work" email the same now?


Absolutely. Too much in my humble opinion.


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In reply to pdc093 • 4:40a, 4/30/25
pdc093 said:
I'm betting MOST of you have seen clips from C. Kirk's visit to A&M, but....



I had not seen that, so thank you for posting it.
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In reply to slaughtr • 7:27a, 4/30/25
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So let me get this straight. Blacks make up 14.8% of the population, but 18.5% of the federal workforce, which is predominately in urban areas. This is worth 3 pages of anti DEI forum discussion? A 3.7% difference which could easily be explained by the urban demographics?

Now account for blacks that have criminal records, are HS drop outs or are on welfare or disability. Those numbers dwarf other races! Blacks that are available to work at all is a lot lower than 14%. 35% of adult black males have felony convictions!

/smirk
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In reply to Backyard Gator • 7:39a, 4/30/25
Backyard Gator said:
pdc093 said:
I'm betting MOST of you have seen clips from C. Kirk's visit to A&M, but....



I had not seen that, so thank you for posting it.



Wow, had not seen it either!

The guy says he gets called the N word all the time on campus. And white libs believe him!
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In reply to Logos Stick • 7:41a, 4/30/25
Logos Stick said:
slaughtr said:
So let me get this straight. Blacks make up 14.8% of the population, but 18.5% of the federal workforce, which is predominately in urban areas. This is worth 3 pages of anti DEI forum discussion? A 3.7% difference which could easily be explained by the urban demographics?

Now account for blacks that have criminal records, are HS drop outs or are on welfare or disability. Those numbers dwarf other races! Blacks that are available to work at all is a lot lower than 14%. 35% of adult black males have felony convictions!

/smirk


As does the president. So you're saying they have a chance ?
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In reply to Geminiv • 7:45a, 4/30/25
flagged for stupid derail
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8:20a, 4/30/25
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You lefties made a big deal out of white coaches in pro sports and CEO's being overrepresented because of muh racism but blacks being overrepresented in certain positions is totally not racism. Y'all need to be consistent here and get your story straight.
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In reply to Farmer_J • 10:58a, 4/30/25
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Farmer_J said:
I Am A Critic said:
AJ02 said:
This certainly explains a lot about why the government is the way it is. What responsibilities it should have, and who should benefit the most.

Some federal departments show Blacks make up 33% or more of the employees, yet they're only 14.8% of the total population. As a whole, they make up 18.5% of all federal employees.

https://apple.news/Ak_44EfSqRwGvAesdebeUDA

Now they're worried about the harm to black workers with Trump slashing federal jobs and doing away with DEI. Seems like DEI, in this instance, should result in more non-Blacks getting recruited and hired, given the percentages above.

Why do people think a key role of the federal government is just to create jobs to hand out paychecks??
Look at the comments made about federal workers on this board over the years. Apparently, most people are "too good" for government work then draw dumb conclusions when they find out who's actually doing the work.


Agree. Most federal jobs are pretty low paying, but offset through job security. Not many people on this board would want that job.


I tried quasi-govt work briefly. Pay and benefits were great. But I couldn't stand the red tape and how sloooooow it was getting anything done. Drove me nuts.
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In reply to Logos Stick • 11:47a, 4/30/25
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Logos Stick said:
Backyard Gator said:
pdc093 said:
I'm betting MOST of you have seen clips from C. Kirk's visit to A&M, but....



I had not seen that, so thank you for posting it.



Wow, had not seen it either!

The guy says he gets called the N word all the time on campus. And white libs believe him!
Well in their defense, I was on campus last week shouting "The Sheriff is near!"
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In reply to Mr. Thunderclap McGirthy • 1:33a, 5/1/25
Champion of Fireball said:
Logos Stick said:
Backyard Gator said:
pdc093 said:
I'm betting MOST of you have seen clips from C. Kirk's visit to A&M, but....



I had not seen that, so thank you for posting it.



Wow, had not seen it either!

The guy says he gets called the N word all the time on campus. And white libs believe him!
Well in their defense, I was on campus last week shouting "The Sheriff is near!"
in authentic frontier gibberish?
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