You have slackers in all jobs, but only in federal gov't is it nearly impossible to get fired for being a slacker.
Blacks as much as 33% of fed workforce, while they are 14.8% of population
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He won't even though for four long years the Biden admin made it priority #1 to hire almost solely based on DEI from the press secretary to his VP and Sec of Defense and on and on...of course they were hiring entry level positions in the government with that exact same mindset.Logos Stick said:
I'd love you to explain the demographic stats and how we get there if it's not DEI?
Wish I could debate like Mr Kirk. That was awesome…
I'm not sure how to take a username DarkBrandon seriously. But props to him for not ditching even after the entire rest of the world is admitting Joe was in full decline throughout his term.
Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:Why would we defend the government? One can call racist bull**** what it is without virtue signaling. The poorly run government isn't due to the race of the employees.Funky Winkerbean said:Aggie Dad Sip said:Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:AJ02 said:
This certainly explains a lot about why the government is the way it is. What responsibilities it should have, and who should benefit the most.
Some federal departments show Blacks make up 33% or more of the employees, yet they're only 14.8% of the total population. As a whole, they make up 18.5% of all federal employees.
https://apple.news/Ak_44EfSqRwGvAesdebeUDA
Now they're worried about the harm to black workers with Trump slashing federal jobs and doing away with DEI. Seems like DEI, in this instance, should result in more non-Blacks getting recruited and hired, given the percentages above.
Why do people think a key role of the federal government is just to create jobs to hand out paychecks??
Are we really blaming black employees for the state of our government? Seems like bs scapegoating.
Honestly, I can't believe this thread hasn't been deleted yet.
Are either of you going to defend the government or just your usual drive by virtue signals?
How can racial issues be addressed without open dialogue?
Blah, blah, blah. I bet you're one of those "we can't get honest discourse " types too.
DarkBrandon showing his ass again with a troll and bail objectively false statement.
I swear he's AzulAg/Hedge alter ego type. Geez.
I swear he's AzulAg/Hedge alter ego type. Geez.
I love how the closet racists are revealing themselves, implying I'm referring to laziness or intelligence with my post, and not my real point being the government pushing DEI & DEI funding to the extent it does, as well as the outsized funding of social programs to a relatively small subset of the population. All of which is kept going and getting stronger because of the makeup of the government workforce which seeks to ensure its own survival and the survival of those it identifies with, to the detriment of the rest of the population. A base that votes overwhelmingly democrat, in a not shocking move at all, seeks to continue to grow the size of the government that by and large, funnels more money to themselves than any other. Which then basically ensures future voters also vote democrat, thereby expanding the government & DEI & social welfare programs even more. If your bills are paid by the government, along with your sons/daughters bills, your parents bills, your cousins bills, you're not going to bite the hand that feeds you. Rather, you're going to do everything you can to sustain it. A never ending spiral.
I'd have the same argument if the article mentioned that 33% of a particular department identified as transgender, versus the total population of transgenders in the US.
I'd have the same argument if the article mentioned that 33% of a particular department identified as transgender, versus the total population of transgenders in the US.
No wonder it's so ineffective
BuT fEdErAl EmPlOyMeNt Is NoT a JoBs PrOgRaMs FoR tHe QuAlIfIeD!!!!
AJ02 said:
I love how the closet racists are revealing themselves, implying I'm referring to laziness or intelligence with my post, and not my real point being the government pushing DEI & DEI funding to the extent it does, as well as the outsized funding of social programs to a relatively small subset of the population. All of which is kept going and getting stronger because of the makeup of the government workforce which seeks to ensure its own survival and the survival of those it identifies with, to the detriment of the rest of the population. A base that votes overwhelmingly democrat, in a not shocking move at all, seeks to continue to grow the size of the government that by and large, funnels more money to themselves than any other. Which then basically ensures future voters also vote democrat, thereby expanding the government & DEI & social welfare programs even more. If your bills are paid by the government, along with your sons/daughters bills, your parents bills, your cousins bills, you're not going to bite the hand that feeds you. Rather, you're going to do everything you can to sustain it. A never ending spiral.
I'd have the same argument if the article mentioned that 33% of a particular department identified as transgender, versus the total population of transgenders in the US.
I got it, but I can read, so ..there IS that.
And I'm a half-breed.
Funky Winkerbean said:Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:Why would we defend the government? One can call racist bull**** what it is without virtue signaling. The poorly run government isn't due to the race of the employees.Funky Winkerbean said:Aggie Dad Sip said:Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:AJ02 said:
This certainly explains a lot about why the government is the way it is. What responsibilities it should have, and who should benefit the most.
Some federal departments show Blacks make up 33% or more of the employees, yet they're only 14.8% of the total population. As a whole, they make up 18.5% of all federal employees.
https://apple.news/Ak_44EfSqRwGvAesdebeUDA
Now they're worried about the harm to black workers with Trump slashing federal jobs and doing away with DEI. Seems like DEI, in this instance, should result in more non-Blacks getting recruited and hired, given the percentages above.
Why do people think a key role of the federal government is just to create jobs to hand out paychecks??
Are we really blaming black employees for the state of our government? Seems like bs scapegoating.
Honestly, I can't believe this thread hasn't been deleted yet.
Are either of you going to defend the government or just your usual drive by virtue signals?
How can racial issues be addressed without open dialogue?
Blah, blah, blah. I bet you're one of those "we can't get honest discourse " types too.
So what is the honest discourse that I'm missing? Let's talk about it.
samurai_science said:Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:AJ02 said:
This certainly explains a lot about why the government is the way it is. What responsibilities it should have, and who should benefit the most.
Some federal departments show Blacks make up 33% or more of the employees, yet they're only 14.8% of the total population. As a whole, they make up 18.5% of all federal employees.
https://apple.news/Ak_44EfSqRwGvAesdebeUDA
Now they're worried about the harm to black workers with Trump slashing federal jobs and doing away with DEI. Seems like DEI, in this instance, should result in more non-Blacks getting recruited and hired, given the percentages above.
Why do people think a key role of the federal government is just to create jobs to hand out paychecks??
Are we really blaming black employees for the state of our government? Seems like bs scapegoating.
We know it's not merit based and they will not vote for change so they get a part of the blame
Why do we know that it's not merit based?
Logos Stick said:
I'd love you to explain the demographic stats and how we get there if it's not DEI?
So we need equal outcomes now? I'm personally against those.
DarkBrandon01 said:
Most federal jobs are in DC, which has a large black population
NAILED IT!! lol
Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:Funky Winkerbean said:Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:Why would we defend the government? One can call racist bull**** what it is without virtue signaling. The poorly run government isn't due to the race of the employees.Funky Winkerbean said:Aggie Dad Sip said:Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:AJ02 said:
This certainly explains a lot about why the government is the way it is. What responsibilities it should have, and who should benefit the most.
Some federal departments show Blacks make up 33% or more of the employees, yet they're only 14.8% of the total population. As a whole, they make up 18.5% of all federal employees.
https://apple.news/Ak_44EfSqRwGvAesdebeUDA
Now they're worried about the harm to black workers with Trump slashing federal jobs and doing away with DEI. Seems like DEI, in this instance, should result in more non-Blacks getting recruited and hired, given the percentages above.
Why do people think a key role of the federal government is just to create jobs to hand out paychecks??
Are we really blaming black employees for the state of our government? Seems like bs scapegoating.
Honestly, I can't believe this thread hasn't been deleted yet.
Are either of you going to defend the government or just your usual drive by virtue signals?
How can racial issues be addressed without open dialogue?
Blah, blah, blah. I bet you're one of those "we can't get honest discourse " types too.
So what is the honest discourse that I'm missing? Let's talk about it.
Nobody is calling out the black people themselves but the overrepresentation of them is indicative of DEI hiring. DEI is the policy of mental midgets. They are who is being called out/blamed for govt sucking badly.
The majority of the black population in DC aren't working in the Fedgov offices unless they're custodial type jobs. That's just the demographics...DarkBrandon01 said:
Most federal jobs are in DC, which has a large black population
BigRobSA said:Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:Funky Winkerbean said:Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:Why would we defend the government? One can call racist bull**** what it is without virtue signaling. The poorly run government isn't due to the race of the employees.Funky Winkerbean said:Aggie Dad Sip said:Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:AJ02 said:
This certainly explains a lot about why the government is the way it is. What responsibilities it should have, and who should benefit the most.
Some federal departments show Blacks make up 33% or more of the employees, yet they're only 14.8% of the total population. As a whole, they make up 18.5% of all federal employees.
https://apple.news/Ak_44EfSqRwGvAesdebeUDA
Now they're worried about the harm to black workers with Trump slashing federal jobs and doing away with DEI. Seems like DEI, in this instance, should result in more non-Blacks getting recruited and hired, given the percentages above.
Why do people think a key role of the federal government is just to create jobs to hand out paychecks??
Are we really blaming black employees for the state of our government? Seems like bs scapegoating.
Honestly, I can't believe this thread hasn't been deleted yet.
Are either of you going to defend the government or just your usual drive by virtue signals?
How can racial issues be addressed without open dialogue?
Blah, blah, blah. I bet you're one of those "we can't get honest discourse " types too.
So what is the honest discourse that I'm missing? Let's talk about it.
Nobody is calling out the black people themselves but the overrepresentation of them is indicative of DEI hiring. DEI is the policy of mental midgets. They are who is being called out/blamed for govt sucking badly.
So your argument is that a disproportionate number of a single demographic in a field of work is an indication that they've not earned that over representation?
DarkBrandon01 said:
Most federal jobs are in DC, which has a large black population
This is not even close to true.
I've probably said this before. I had ten years of experience in an extremely niche environmental area before law school. Maybe 100-200 people in the country really experienced in the area. After I graduated law school I interviewed with the EPA as a baby lawyer in that very specific niche. I was told by two of the interviewers during the interview that I was the most knowledgeable person they've ever met in that particular niche. Not just of the people they interviewed but of the people they've met working. I didn't get rejected or hired, just ghosted by the EPA.
I'm not saying they're ignoring merit but it's definitely something to be told you're the most knowledgeable person they've met and not get offered. Can't say it was because I'm white but….
I'm not saying they're ignoring merit but it's definitely something to be told you're the most knowledgeable person they've met and not get offered. Can't say it was because I'm white but….
The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
Better the post office than the operating room or in a cockpit.
Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:BigRobSA said:Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:Funky Winkerbean said:Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:Why would we defend the government? One can call racist bull**** what it is without virtue signaling. The poorly run government isn't due to the race of the employees.Funky Winkerbean said:Aggie Dad Sip said:Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:AJ02 said:
This certainly explains a lot about why the government is the way it is. What responsibilities it should have, and who should benefit the most.
Some federal departments show Blacks make up 33% or more of the employees, yet they're only 14.8% of the total population. As a whole, they make up 18.5% of all federal employees.
https://apple.news/Ak_44EfSqRwGvAesdebeUDA
Now they're worried about the harm to black workers with Trump slashing federal jobs and doing away with DEI. Seems like DEI, in this instance, should result in more non-Blacks getting recruited and hired, given the percentages above.
Why do people think a key role of the federal government is just to create jobs to hand out paychecks??
Are we really blaming black employees for the state of our government? Seems like bs scapegoating.
Honestly, I can't believe this thread hasn't been deleted yet.
Are either of you going to defend the government or just your usual drive by virtue signals?
How can racial issues be addressed without open dialogue?
Blah, blah, blah. I bet you're one of those "we can't get honest discourse " types too.
So what is the honest discourse that I'm missing? Let's talk about it.
Nobody is calling out the black people themselves but the overrepresentation of them is indicative of DEI hiring. DEI is the policy of mental midgets. They are who is being called out/blamed for govt sucking badly.
So your argument is that a disproportionate number of a single demographic in a field of work is an indication that they've not earned that over representation?
It definitely lends itself to that idea, yes. "Affirmative Action" has always elicited the same response.
Just like if there was a silly racial quota for the NFL/MLB/NBA to mirror the demographic makeup of the country. A fantastic white player would always have an asterisk by his name. Regardless of how good he was. Which is just one reason that stupidass race-based decisions are just that: stupidass.
I don't know what the point of the OP was but blacks do not make up 14.8% of the population so the rest of it is suspect.
36 million aborted black babies when the Dems stopped allowing people to count the ethnicity of these murdered children and 30-60 million illegals in the last 20 years driving down all native %'s means there could not be an increase in black proportions. At most the black population is 13%
Without abortion and even with immigration blacks would be 19% today. Without immigration probably a quarter.
Sorry for the rant. As for the OP, telling us that the government hires minorities at a high rate is like saying water is wet.
36 million aborted black babies when the Dems stopped allowing people to count the ethnicity of these murdered children and 30-60 million illegals in the last 20 years driving down all native %'s means there could not be an increase in black proportions. At most the black population is 13%
Without abortion and even with immigration blacks would be 19% today. Without immigration probably a quarter.
Sorry for the rant. As for the OP, telling us that the government hires minorities at a high rate is like saying water is wet.
Hang on, in Los Angeles, we had a lot of Japanese in the Post Office.oh no said:
makes sense. look at TSA agents at every airport and mailmen and mailwomen from every post office.
But, on this topic, Last Year, Uncle Hotep made a list of "Black Jobs" on his Livestream.
It was spot on, and also hilarious. TSA is near the top of the list.
Honestly, I don't see how this is news.
This topic was already addressed and parodied in the movie "I'm Gonna Git You Sucka" back in 1988.
This topic was already addressed and parodied in the movie "I'm Gonna Git You Sucka" back in 1988.
Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:AJ02 said:
This certainly explains a lot about why the government is the way it is. What responsibilities it should have, and who should benefit the most.
Some federal departments show Blacks make up 33% or more of the employees, yet they're only 14.8% of the total population. As a whole, they make up 18.5% of all federal employees.
https://apple.news/Ak_44EfSqRwGvAesdebeUDA
Now they're worried about the harm to black workers with Trump slashing federal jobs and doing away with DEI. Seems like DEI, in this instance, should result in more non-Blacks getting recruited and hired, given the percentages above.
Why do people think a key role of the federal government is just to create jobs to hand out paychecks??
Are we really blaming black employees for the state of our government? Seems like bs scapegoating.
You see…..that's the beauty of what has been created.
Tell me where I am wrong. Blacks on average do not come into the government work force with private sector experience. They are not coming in from private sector industry with 15 years of experience. The training they receive in government as engineers , accountant, HR are all learned in a government setting that doesn't train well, doesn't develop well, doesn't uphold high standards, doesn't hold accountability. Yet, this is the main labor pool the government pulls from to fill leadership positions.
Who are the ones that get most of the leadership positions? Blacks, gays, alt lifestyles, Mexicans….are the top 4 groups that get picked…..and it doesn't matter if they are not good at what they are presently doing.
So when you start pointing organizational failure, the person that needs to be held accountable usually isn't because they are a protected class and the moment accountability creeps in……there is someone ready to call you out as racist.
There is no cream that rises to the crop…
Truth. Fear is a better motivator than $$.lobopride said:
Every job I have ever had I had a fear of potentially losing my job. For most people they won't work very hard without that motivation.
Alexander, Caesar, Charlemagne, and myself founded empires; but upon what foundation did we rest the creations of our genius? Upon force! But Jesus Christ founded His upon love; and at this hour millions of men would die for Him. - Napoleon Bonaparte
“To do evil a human being must first of all believe that what he's doing is good” - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
“To do evil a human being must first of all believe that what he's doing is good” - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
So essentially DEI running our government? Any wonder we're in the mess we are?
The Democratic Party and feminist around the world have a seat at the table for you. They'd love to talk to you about the disproportionate number of jobs that white men have in certain areas over everyone else.
Congrats on your move to their side.
Congrats on your move to their side.
Most federal facilities are in urban areas, as are a large fraction of the black population so that might explain some of it.
Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:Logos Stick said:
I'd love you to explain the demographic stats and how we get there if it's not DEI?
So we need equal outcomes now? I'm personally against those.
Move that goalpost. You claimed that this doesn't prove identity hiring. When challenged, you deflect. I'm quite sure you'd be ok if the shoe were on the white foot. /eye roll
We need fair outcomes based on merit. This is identity based hiring. Period.
Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:
The Democratic Party and feminist around the world have a seat at the table for you. They'd love to talk to you about the disproportionate number of jobs that white men have in certain areas over everyone else.
Congrats on your move to their side.
Once again there is this thing called statistics. If you are going to draw conclusions, you should start using them to form correct ones.
Congrats!
Aggie Dad Sip said:Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:AJ02 said:
This certainly explains a lot about why the government is the way it is. What responsibilities it should have, and who should benefit the most.
Some federal departments show Blacks make up 33% or more of the employees, yet they're only 14.8% of the total population. As a whole, they make up 18.5% of all federal employees.
https://apple.news/Ak_44EfSqRwGvAesdebeUDA
Now they're worried about the harm to black workers with Trump slashing federal jobs and doing away with DEI. Seems like DEI, in this instance, should result in more non-Blacks getting recruited and hired, given the percentages above.
Why do people think a key role of the federal government is just to create jobs to hand out paychecks??
Are we really blaming black employees for the state of our government? Seems like bs scapegoating.
Honestly, I can't believe this thread hasn't been deleted yet.
He's blaming hiring practices that don't hire based on merit. HTH. Racebaiting is not an argument.
My wife is an attorney and I have shared this before . But the wife worked for feds....won all sorts of awards for her work.. was a mentor to several new attorney hires and paralegals... When a supervisor job came open, for her group, the wife applied and everyone assumed she would get it. Instead, they hired a black man, non attorney, from out of state with no experience in her area. The office consensus was completely that the hire was dei.FCBlitz said:Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:AJ02 said:
This certainly explains a lot about why the government is the way it is. What responsibilities it should have, and who should benefit the most.
Some federal departments show Blacks make up 33% or more of the employees, yet they're only 14.8% of the total population. As a whole, they make up 18.5% of all federal employees.
https://apple.news/Ak_44EfSqRwGvAesdebeUDA
Now they're worried about the harm to black workers with Trump slashing federal jobs and doing away with DEI. Seems like DEI, in this instance, should result in more non-Blacks getting recruited and hired, given the percentages above.
Why do people think a key role of the federal government is just to create jobs to hand out paychecks??
Are we really blaming black employees for the state of our government? Seems like bs scapegoating.
You see…..that's the beauty of what has been created.
Tell me where I am wrong. Blacks on average do not come into the government work force with private sector experience. They are not coming in from private sector industry with 15 years of experience. The training they receive in government as engineers , accountant, HR are all learned in a government setting that doesn't train well, doesn't develop well, doesn't uphold high standards, doesn't hold accountability. Yet, this is the main labor pool the government pulls from to fill leadership positions.
Who are the ones that get most of the leadership positions? Blacks, gays, alt lifestyles, Mexicans….are the top 4 groups that get picked…..and it doesn't matter if they are not good at what they are presently doing.
So when you start pointing organizational failure, the person that needs to be held accountable usually isn't because they are a protected class and the moment accountability creeps in……there is someone ready to call you out as racist.
There is no cream that rises to the crop…
My wife was so pissed for not being rewarded for her work that she left. End result is they lost their best writer and gained a guy with no knowledge how to do the job leading attorneys and paralegals of that group.
Lastly, in general my wife noticed that for promotions/details etc her agency actively discriminated against attorneys (often were not allowed to apply if had a jd). Most details/promotion opportunities were set up to reward the person who instead checks the right boxes for demographics.
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