He's bought. Not sure what else.

Tucker is clown and traitor to this country. He should be considered a foreign agent at this point.

Tucker's had a strange fall from grace. He and Candace seem to be drinking the same koolaid.

It seems to have especially started with the Ted Cruz interview. Before that giving controversial interviews by themselves could serve some purposes and did. Besides, its part of the free speech paradigm - you certainly don't want to hear only one side. Especially where governments are concerned---none of them tell the truth as the first default. Too much CYA principle. So you need "edgy" interviews.

But starting with Cruz, (others may peg it far earlier ) he seems to be on a wild swing, especially the remarks on Boko, sharia, and Maduro.

And this is why I always find it funny when college-educated, normally sane people of a conservative nature, base their principles on talking heads' stated ideology.

"Did you hear what so-and-so said about subjectX!?"

No, as I don't listen to people's ideas on things for my own principle base.

Tucker has always been a moron but he was "our" moron. Now, he's gone off the reservation? No, he's just not a principled person and shouldn't be a shepherd for anyone save the dumbest among humanity.

Gee whiz.

I agree with Tucker about 1,000x more than I do with a Ted Cruz or Levin.

Guess I am taking crazy pills because I am America first and don't want a war with Iran….

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I've been a big fan of both for a long time but this is quite the accusation by Tucker. I haven't listened to Levin in quite awhile.

For anybody that still does, would you agree or disagree with Tucker's assessment?

Mark Levin was at the White House today, lobbying for war with Iran. To be clear, Levin has no plans to fight in this or any other war. He’s demanding that American troops do it. We need to stop Iran from building nuclear weapons, he and likeminded ideologues in Washington are…

— Tucker Carlson (@TuckerCarlson) June 5, 2025

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The date on that tweet is from last June. No Mark Levin was not advocating war with Iran. The argument was being made the nuclear sites be destroyed.
Tucker Carlson has begun accepting interviews with racist Nazi backers like Nick Fuentes. I am not sure what the hell happened to Carlson.

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I've been a big fan of both for a long time but this is quite the accusation by Tucker. I haven't listened to Levin in quite awhile.

For anybody that still does, would you agree or disagree with Tucker's assessment?

Mark Levin was at the White House today, lobbying for war with Iran. To be clear, Levin has no plans to fight in this or any other war. He’s demanding that American troops do it. We need to stop Iran from building nuclear weapons, he and likeminded ideologues in Washington are…

— Tucker Carlson (@TuckerCarlson) June 5, 2025

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The date on that tweet is from last June. No Mark Levin was not advocating war with Iran. The argument was being made the nuclear sites be destroyed.
Tucker Carlson has begun accepting interviews with racist Nazi backers like Nick Fuentes. I am not sure what the hell happened to Carlson.

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Quite often, preemptively bombing other countries leads to wars.

I am sure you'd call for war if a country bombed us.

Thankfully it didn't.

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I've been a big fan of both for a long time but this is quite the accusation by Tucker. I haven't listened to Levin in quite awhile.

For anybody that still does, would you agree or disagree with Tucker's assessment?

Mark Levin was at the White House today, lobbying for war with Iran. To be clear, Levin has no plans to fight in this or any other war. He’s demanding that American troops do it. We need to stop Iran from building nuclear weapons, he and likeminded ideologues in Washington are…

— Tucker Carlson (@TuckerCarlson) June 5, 2025

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The date on that tweet is from last June. No Mark Levin was not advocating war with Iran. The argument was being made the nuclear sites be destroyed.
Tucker Carlson has begun accepting interviews with racist Nazi backers like Nick Fuentes. I am not sure what the hell happened to Carlson.

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Quite often, preemptively bombing other countries leads to wars.

I am sure you'd call for war if a country bombed us.

Thankfully it didn't.

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We aren't a terrorist nation that has threatened and funded terror throughout western society.

Past actions matter. As does context.

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I've been a big fan of both for a long time but this is quite the accusation by Tucker. I haven't listened to Levin in quite awhile.

For anybody that still does, would you agree or disagree with Tucker's assessment?

Mark Levin was at the White House today, lobbying for war with Iran. To be clear, Levin has no plans to fight in this or any other war. He’s demanding that American troops do it. We need to stop Iran from building nuclear weapons, he and likeminded ideologues in Washington are…

— Tucker Carlson (@TuckerCarlson) June 5, 2025

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The date on that tweet is from last June. No Mark Levin was not advocating war with Iran. The argument was being made the nuclear sites be destroyed.
Tucker Carlson has begun accepting interviews with racist Nazi backers like Nick Fuentes. I am not sure what the hell happened to Carlson.

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Quite often, preemptively bombing other countries leads to wars.

I am sure you'd call for war if a country bombed us.

Thankfully it didn't.

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No it didn't. It was a successful very targeted attack that produced predictable results.

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I've been a big fan of both for a long time but this is quite the accusation by Tucker. I haven't listened to Levin in quite awhile.

For anybody that still does, would you agree or disagree with Tucker's assessment?

Mark Levin was at the White House today, lobbying for war with Iran. To be clear, Levin has no plans to fight in this or any other war. He’s demanding that American troops do it. We need to stop Iran from building nuclear weapons, he and likeminded ideologues in Washington are…

— Tucker Carlson (@TuckerCarlson) June 5, 2025

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The date on that tweet is from last June. No Mark Levin was not advocating war with Iran. The argument was being made the nuclear sites be destroyed.
Tucker Carlson has begun accepting interviews with racist Nazi backers like Nick Fuentes. I am not sure what the hell happened to Carlson.

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Quite often, preemptively bombing other countries leads to wars.

I am sure you'd call for war if a country bombed us.

Thankfully it didn't.

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We aren't a terrorist nation that has threatened and funded terror throughout western society.

Past actions matter. As does context.

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Yet we have been a nation that had a neocon foreign policy which bombed and destroyed and maimed all over the world often for flimsy reasons.

And a lot of people who voted for Trump don't want to do that anymore.

Sorry.

No more wars that we jump into.

To fight is in human nature. We cannot and will not be able to stop it. Let people fight and resolve without us getting in the way.

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I've been a big fan of both for a long time but this is quite the accusation by Tucker. I haven't listened to Levin in quite awhile.

For anybody that still does, would you agree or disagree with Tucker's assessment?

Mark Levin was at the White House today, lobbying for war with Iran. To be clear, Levin has no plans to fight in this or any other war. He’s demanding that American troops do it. We need to stop Iran from building nuclear weapons, he and likeminded ideologues in Washington are…

— Tucker Carlson (@TuckerCarlson) June 5, 2025

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The date on that tweet is from last June. No Mark Levin was not advocating war with Iran. The argument was being made the nuclear sites be destroyed.
Tucker Carlson has begun accepting interviews with racist Nazi backers like Nick Fuentes. I am not sure what the hell happened to Carlson.

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Quite often, preemptively bombing other countries leads to wars.

I am sure you'd call for war if a country bombed us.

Thankfully it didn't.

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This is certainly a risk. Its breathtaking how much we take for granted that its not an act of war. However, it indeed matters that Iran has been constantly making threats and backing terrorism.

This is more a case of where one should make sure they frame their actions in the context of the moment, and not get into things like denying its an act of war.

Its more honest to say you don't think they would choose war enough to take the gamble. Its far from clear that it is any way okay to just attack someone. And say this even for actions fully agree with from a hegemon ruler point of view.

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Gee whiz.

I agree with Tucker about 1,000x more than I do with a Ted Cruz or Levin.

Guess I am taking crazy pills because I am America first and don't want a war with Iran….

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Golly gee whilikers, Cruz, Levin AND Trump also DID NOT WANT a war with Iran!

Guess who was right about what would happen? It was not the person that lies about "America first" but then constantly pimps its enemies and degrades both America and its allies.

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Gee whiz.

I agree with Tucker about 1,000x more than I do with a Ted Cruz or Levin.

Guess I am taking crazy pills because I am America first and don't want a war with Iran….

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Golly gee whilikers, Cruz, Levin AND Trump also DID NOT WANT a war with Iran!

Guess who was right about what would happen? It was not the person that lies about "America first" but then constantly pimps its enemies and degrades both America and its allies.

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Gee whiz.

I agree with Tucker about 1,000x more than I do with a Ted Cruz or Levin.

Guess I am taking crazy pills because I am America first and don't want a war with Iran….

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Golly gee whilikers, Cruz, Levin AND Trump also DID NOT WANT a war with Iran!

Guess who was right about what would happen? It was not the person that lies about "America first" but then constantly pimps its enemies and degrades both America and its allies.

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I literally just asked AI about Cruz and Levin and whether they've advocated for war with Iran. Maybe you should do a little research. They've advocated direct military intervention, regime change. You know, stuff like what we did in Iraq which ended very badly for us.

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I literally just asked AI about Cruz and Levin and whether they've advocated for war with Iran

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BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!


Military strikes are not a war!

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(This is the strawman Tucker heavily relies on, pretending that a strike on nuclear facilities is equivalent to a ground war where American troops are fighting and will die… it's just a lie).

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You and Carlson were 100% WRONG about Iran. Bizarre that you can't just admit that.

Carlson pushes Iran, Qatar, Hamas and other Terrorist propoganda. "America First" my ass. He is a POS

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I literally just asked AI about Cruz and Levin and whether they've advocated for war with Iran

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BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!


Military strikes are not a war!

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(This is the strawman Tucker heavily relies on, pretending that a strike on nuclear facilities is equivalent to a ground war where American troops are fighting and will die… it's just a lie).

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You and Carlson were 100% WRONG about Iran. Bizarre that you can't just admit that.

Carlson pushes Iran, Qatar, Hamas and other Terrorist propoganda. "America First" my ass. He is a POS

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Give us a quote where's he ever pushed "Iran, Qatar, Hamas and other Terrorist" propaganda.

Not automatically reflexively pushing Israel's propaganda doesn't count.

People like you can only see a binary. If one doesn't fully embrace Israel and all the claims it makes, one supports Hamas/terrorists.

The good news is that more and more people are waking up to that false dilemma and that's why people like Levin are panicking.

So get used to panicking if you fall into this dumb trap.

Have you ever read this thread???


Or the Ted Cruz one?


Go back and read the tweet from AG on page 2.

Now, Carlson is out there saying that there is no Muslim problem in Great Britain. Says the Pakistanis are all cool.


Thankfully, we have an administration that believes things that Levin does about the Middle East, rather than people like you and Nancy Pelosi and the ruler of Qatar


I just remembered that you are the big Candace Owens fan. That explains a lot about your position here.

Again. Your whole view is skewed because you only see two options.

One can be opposed to the actions of Israel's government and opposed to Hamas at the same time and simultaneously prefer if America doesn't send more of its sons to die in regime change wars that never work.

It's actually not hard.

Thank God more people are starting to understand this.

No thanks Neocons.

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johnnyblaze36 said:

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I've been a big fan of both for a long time but this is quite the accusation by Tucker. I haven't listened to Levin in quite awhile.

For anybody that still does, would you agree or disagree with Tucker's assessment?

Mark Levin was at the White House today, lobbying for war with Iran. To be clear, Levin has no plans to fight in this or any other war. He’s demanding that American troops do it. We need to stop Iran from building nuclear weapons, he and likeminded ideologues in Washington are…

— Tucker Carlson (@TuckerCarlson) June 5, 2025

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The date on that tweet is from last June. No Mark Levin was not advocating war with Iran. The argument was being made the nuclear sites be destroyed.
Tucker Carlson has begun accepting interviews with racist Nazi backers like Nick Fuentes. I am not sure what the hell happened to Carlson.

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Quite often, preemptively bombing other countries leads to wars.

I am sure you'd call for war if a country bombed us.

Thankfully it didn't.

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We aren't a terrorist nation that has threatened and funded terror throughout western society.

Past actions matter. As does context.

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Yet we have been a nation that had a neocon foreign policy which bombed and destroyed and maimed all over the world often for flimsy reasons.

And a lot of people who voted for Trump don't want to do that anymore.

Sorry.

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Are you seriously trying to compare us to Iran?

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johnnyblaze36 said:

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I've been a big fan of both for a long time but this is quite the accusation by Tucker. I haven't listened to Levin in quite awhile.

For anybody that still does, would you agree or disagree with Tucker's assessment?

Mark Levin was at the White House today, lobbying for war with Iran. To be clear, Levin has no plans to fight in this or any other war. He’s demanding that American troops do it. We need to stop Iran from building nuclear weapons, he and likeminded ideologues in Washington are…

— Tucker Carlson (@TuckerCarlson) June 5, 2025

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The date on that tweet is from last June. No Mark Levin was not advocating war with Iran. The argument was being made the nuclear sites be destroyed.
Tucker Carlson has begun accepting interviews with racist Nazi backers like Nick Fuentes. I am not sure what the hell happened to Carlson.

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Quite often, preemptively bombing other countries leads to wars.

I am sure you'd call for war if a country bombed us.

Thankfully it didn't.

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We aren't a terrorist nation that has threatened and funded terror throughout western society.

Past actions matter. As does context.

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Yet we have been a nation that had a neocon foreign policy which bombed and destroyed and maimed all over the world often for flimsy reasons.

And a lot of people who voted for Trump don't want to do that anymore.

Sorry.

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Are you seriously trying to compare us to Iran?

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I am simply acknowledging recent history.

Do you think our past 25 years of neocon preemptive forever wars is defensible and worth repeating?

We finished 20 year regime change war in Afghanistan and the day we left the country reverted to what it was before. All that sacrifice for what?

Have we learned anything ?

We're not Iran, I am not saying that they're pristine good innocent guys. I wouldn't want to live there. I'd prefer a foreign policy that has nothing to do with Iran.

But I also have to admit that actually American neocon foreign policy has been a disaster to us and to those sad places where we've dropped bombs and invaded.

Our service men and women deserve better than getting into another Iraq or Afghanistan, especially when it's at the behest of a foreign country.

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Again. Your whole view is skewed because you only see two options.

One can be opposed to the actions of Israel's government and opposed to Hamas at the same time and simultaneously prefer if America doesn't send more of its sons to die in regime change wars that never work.

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You can be opposed to Hamas and decide NOT to spread their lies and propaganda about genocide in Gaza.

Thank Heavens most Conservatives take the Levin-Trump-Cruz side on this.

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Our service men and women deserve better than getting into another Iraq or Afghanistan, especially when it's at the behest of a foreign country.

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You are correct!

And no one wanted this. Carlson created that strawman to lie about Levin and suck off Iran.

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johnnyblaze36 said:

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I've been a big fan of both for a long time but this is quite the accusation by Tucker. I haven't listened to Levin in quite awhile.

For anybody that still does, would you agree or disagree with Tucker's assessment?

Mark Levin was at the White House today, lobbying for war with Iran. To be clear, Levin has no plans to fight in this or any other war. He’s demanding that American troops do it. We need to stop Iran from building nuclear weapons, he and likeminded ideologues in Washington are…

— Tucker Carlson (@TuckerCarlson) June 5, 2025

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The date on that tweet is from last June. No Mark Levin was not advocating war with Iran. The argument was being made the nuclear sites be destroyed.
Tucker Carlson has begun accepting interviews with racist Nazi backers like Nick Fuentes. I am not sure what the hell happened to Carlson.

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Quite often, preemptively bombing other countries leads to wars.

I am sure you'd call for war if a country bombed us.

Thankfully it didn't.

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We aren't a terrorist nation that has threatened and funded terror throughout western society.

Past actions matter. As does context.

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Yet we have been a nation that had a neocon foreign policy which bombed and destroyed and maimed all over the world often for flimsy reasons.

And a lot of people who voted for Trump don't want to do that anymore.

Sorry.

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Neither does President Trump want war. The targeted destruction of the nuclear sites was necessary. Seems the objective was obtained, we didn't go to war and now have time to prepare for Iran's next attempt to remove us from the face of the earth.
Somehow people forget or dismiss all the peace deals President Trump has brokered. Was up to 8 do far?

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I've been a big fan of both for a long time but this is quite the accusation by Tucker. I haven't listened to Levin in quite awhile.

For anybody that still does, would you agree or disagree with Tucker's assessment?

Mark Levin was at the White House today, lobbying for war with Iran. To be clear, Levin has no plans to fight in this or any other war. He’s demanding that American troops do it. We need to stop Iran from building nuclear weapons, he and likeminded ideologues in Washington are…

— Tucker Carlson (@TuckerCarlson) June 5, 2025

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The date on that tweet is from last June. No Mark Levin was not advocating war with Iran. The argument was being made the nuclear sites be destroyed.
Tucker Carlson has begun accepting interviews with racist Nazi backers like Nick Fuentes. I am not sure what the hell happened to Carlson.

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Quite often, preemptively bombing other countries leads to wars.

I am sure you'd call for war if a country bombed us.

Thankfully it didn't.

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We aren't a terrorist nation that has threatened and funded terror throughout western society.

Past actions matter. As does context.

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Yet we have been a nation that had a neocon foreign policy which bombed and destroyed and maimed all over the world often for flimsy reasons.

And a lot of people who voted for Trump don't want to do that anymore.

Sorry.

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Neither does President Trump want war. The targeted destruction of the nuclear sites was necessary. Seems the objective was obtained, we didn't go to war and now have time to prepare for Iran's next attempt to remove us from the face of the earth.
Somehow people forget or dismiss all the peace deals President Trump has brokered. Was up to 8 do far?

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Our intelligence said that Iran wasn't pursuing a Nuclear weapon…

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Do you think our past 25 years of neocon preemptive forever wars is defensible and worth repeating?

• Under President Trump we ended the ISIS caliphate bull**** he inherited in a couple of months. Obama said we couldn't end it ever
• Under President Trump we brokered the Abraham Accords
• The past 25 years is irrelevant to this discussion

We finished 20 year regime change war in Afghanistan and the day we left the country reverted to what it was before.

• President Trump didn't start it and was brokering a deal to end it which Sleepy Joe screwed up royally

All that sacrifice for what?

• Ask the people who started it.

Have we learned anything ?

• Some of have, the catch phrase is Peace through Strength
• Maybe the minions in the Democratic Party leadership should try it

We're not Iran, I am not saying that they're pristine good innocent guys. I wouldn't want to live there. I'd prefer a foreign policy that has nothing to do with Iran.

• Unfortunately, the Islamic terrorists that run Iran have a stated goal of eliminating us.

But I also have to admit that actually American neocon foreign policy has been a disaster to us and to those sad places where we've dropped bombs and invaded.

• Again irrelevant when discussing President Trump

Our service men and women deserve better than getting into another Iraq or Afghanistan, especially when it's at the behest of a foreign country.

• And as far as I can tell President Trump has not gotten us into a war

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Your arguments are unsound and specious. They sound more like a complete Isolationist policy that eventually leads to wholesale war with massive losses of life.

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Complete misrepresentation!

And Gabbard explains here!

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"The dishonest media is intentionally taking my testimony out of context and spreading fake news as a way to manufacture division," Gabbard wrote. "America has intelligence that Iran is at the point that it can produce a nuclear weapon within weeks to months, if they decide to finalize the assembly. President Trump has been clear that can't happen, and I agree."

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https://www.newsweek.com/tulsi-gabbard-reacts-after-trump-said-she-was-wrong-about-iran-2088685

See This thread!

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Yes, she didn't "flip". The intelligence said Khamanei had not authorized to build weapons in March, but there was unprecedented enrichment levels that would only be used for weapons. Try being honest and view the while testimony. Stop getting your news from comedian turned clown.

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I've been a big fan of both for a long time but this is quite the accusation by Tucker. I haven't listened to Levin in quite awhile.

For anybody that still does, would you agree or disagree with Tucker's assessment?

Mark Levin was at the White House today, lobbying for war with Iran. To be clear, Levin has no plans to fight in this or any other war. He’s demanding that American troops do it. We need to stop Iran from building nuclear weapons, he and likeminded ideologues in Washington are…

— Tucker Carlson (@TuckerCarlson) June 5, 2025

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The date on that tweet is from last June. No Mark Levin was not advocating war with Iran. The argument was being made the nuclear sites be destroyed.
Tucker Carlson has begun accepting interviews with racist Nazi backers like Nick Fuentes. I am not sure what the hell happened to Carlson.

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Quite often, preemptively bombing other countries leads to wars.

I am sure you'd call for war if a country bombed us.

Thankfully it didn't.

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We aren't a terrorist nation that has threatened and funded terror throughout western society.

Past actions matter. As does context.

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Yet we have been a nation that had a neocon foreign policy which bombed and destroyed and maimed all over the world often for flimsy reasons.

And a lot of people who voted for Trump don't want to do that anymore.

Sorry.

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Neither does President Trump want war. The targeted destruction of the nuclear sites was necessary. Seems the objective was obtained, we didn't go to war and now have time to prepare for Iran's next attempt to remove us from the face of the earth.
Somehow people forget or dismiss all the peace deals President Trump has brokered. Was up to 8 do far?

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Our intelligence said that Iran wasn't pursuing a Nuclear weapon…

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Two things refute this. The radioactive material to run reactors need not be weapons grade which Iran was pursuing. The radioactive material for reactors may be obtained from other countries. Iran had a stated goal of killing all infidels including the U.S. Iran developed ballistic missiles, why? Who was attacking the in order to seize their country
You are seem to think the terrorists running Iran think rationally yet their primary desire is the imposition of Islamic law worldwide at all costs.

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johnnyblaze36 said:

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I've been a big fan of both for a long time but this is quite the accusation by Tucker. I haven't listened to Levin in quite awhile.

For anybody that still does, would you agree or disagree with Tucker's assessment?

Mark Levin was at the White House today, lobbying for war with Iran. To be clear, Levin has no plans to fight in this or any other war. He’s demanding that American troops do it. We need to stop Iran from building nuclear weapons, he and likeminded ideologues in Washington are…

— Tucker Carlson (@TuckerCarlson) June 5, 2025

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The date on that tweet is from last June. No Mark Levin was not advocating war with Iran. The argument was being made the nuclear sites be destroyed.
Tucker Carlson has begun accepting interviews with racist Nazi backers like Nick Fuentes. I am not sure what the hell happened to Carlson.

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Quite often, preemptively bombing other countries leads to wars.

I am sure you'd call for war if a country bombed us.

Thankfully it didn't.

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We aren't a terrorist nation that has threatened and funded terror throughout western society.

Past actions matter. As does context.

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Yet we have been a nation that had a neocon foreign policy which bombed and destroyed and maimed all over the world often for flimsy reasons.

And a lot of people who voted for Trump don't want to do that anymore.

Sorry.

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Are you seriously trying to compare us to Iran?

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I am simply acknowledging recent history.

Do you think our past 25 years of neocon preemptive forever wars is defensible and worth repeating?

We finished 20 year regime change war in Afghanistan and the day we left the country reverted to what it was before. All that sacrifice for what?

Have we learned anything ?

We're not Iran, I am not saying that they're pristine good innocent guys. I wouldn't want to live there. I'd prefer a foreign policy that has nothing to do with Iran.

But I also have to admit that actually American neocon foreign policy has been a disaster to us and to those sad places where we've dropped bombs and invaded.

Our service men and women deserve better than getting into another Iraq or Afghanistan, especially when it's at the behest of a foreign country.

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You seem like a very concerned moderate...

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johnnyblaze36 said:

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I've been a big fan of both for a long time but this is quite the accusation by Tucker. I haven't listened to Levin in quite awhile.

For anybody that still does, would you agree or disagree with Tucker's assessment?

Mark Levin was at the White House today, lobbying for war with Iran. To be clear, Levin has no plans to fight in this or any other war. He’s demanding that American troops do it. We need to stop Iran from building nuclear weapons, he and likeminded ideologues in Washington are…

— Tucker Carlson (@TuckerCarlson) June 5, 2025

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The date on that tweet is from last June. No Mark Levin was not advocating war with Iran. The argument was being made the nuclear sites be destroyed.
Tucker Carlson has begun accepting interviews with racist Nazi backers like Nick Fuentes. I am not sure what the hell happened to Carlson.

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Quite often, preemptively bombing other countries leads to wars.

I am sure you'd call for war if a country bombed us.

Thankfully it didn't.

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We aren't a terrorist nation that has threatened and funded terror throughout western society.

Past actions matter. As does context.

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Yet we have been a nation that had a neocon foreign policy which bombed and destroyed and maimed all over the world often for flimsy reasons.

And a lot of people who voted for Trump don't want to do that anymore.

Sorry.

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Neither does President Trump want war. The targeted destruction of the nuclear sites was necessary. Seems the objective was obtained, we didn't go to war and now have time to prepare for Iran's next attempt to remove us from the face of the earth.
Somehow people forget or dismiss all the peace deals President Trump has brokered. Was up to 8 do far?

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Our intelligence said that Iran wasn't pursuing a Nuclear weapon…

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Two things refute this. The radioactive material to run reactors need not be weapons grade which Iran was pursuing. The radioactive material for reactors may be obtained from other countries. Iran had a stated goal of killing all infidels including the U.S. Iran developed ballistic missiles, why? Who was attacking the in order to seize their country
You are seem to think the terrorists running Iran think rationally yet their primary desire is the imposition of Islamic law worldwide at all costs.

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This debate kind of hinges on who one believes.

I chose to generally doubt people who have been caught lying to me over and over and over again.

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Unless it's Candace Owens of course.

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I've been a big fan of both for a long time but this is quite the accusation by Tucker. I haven't listened to Levin in quite awhile.

For anybody that still does, would you agree or disagree with Tucker's assessment?

Mark Levin was at the White House today, lobbying for war with Iran. To be clear, Levin has no plans to fight in this or any other war. He’s demanding that American troops do it. We need to stop Iran from building nuclear weapons, he and likeminded ideologues in Washington are…

— Tucker Carlson (@TuckerCarlson) June 5, 2025

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The date on that tweet is from last June. No Mark Levin was not advocating war with Iran. The argument was being made the nuclear sites be destroyed.
Tucker Carlson has begun accepting interviews with racist Nazi backers like Nick Fuentes. I am not sure what the hell happened to Carlson.

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Quite often, preemptively bombing other countries leads to wars.

I am sure you'd call for war if a country bombed us.

Thankfully it didn't.

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We aren't a terrorist nation that has threatened and funded terror throughout western society.

Past actions matter. As does context.

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Yet we have been a nation that had a neocon foreign policy which bombed and destroyed and maimed all over the world often for flimsy reasons.

And a lot of people who voted for Trump don't want to do that anymore.

Sorry.

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Are you seriously trying to compare us to Iran?

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I am simply acknowledging recent history.

Do you think our past 25 years of neocon preemptive forever wars is defensible and worth repeating?

We finished 20 year regime change war in Afghanistan and the day we left the country reverted to what it was before. All that sacrifice for what?

Have we learned anything ?

We're not Iran, I am not saying that they're pristine good innocent guys. I wouldn't want to live there. I'd prefer a foreign policy that has nothing to do with Iran.

But I also have to admit that actually American neocon foreign policy has been a disaster to us and to those sad places where we've dropped bombs and invaded.

Our service men and women deserve better than getting into another Iraq or Afghanistan, especially when it's at the behest of a foreign country.

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You can prefer a foreign policy that has nothing to do with Iran, but Iran chose to include us in their foreign policy. Sticking your head in the sand won't change that.

And the disaster in our foreign policy are by the appeasers. They are the ones who called ISIS the "JV team". They are the ones that pulled out out of Afghanistan and left the Taliban a gazillion dollars of equipment.

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This debate kind of hinges on who one believes.

I chose to generally doubt people who have been caught lying to me over and over and over again.

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Tucker has said some truly reprehensible things in the last 6 months.

If you stand by what he says, you are not on the same side I am. The man is on the take.

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This debate kind of hinges on who one believes.

I chose to generally doubt people who have been caught lying to me over and over and over again.

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Tucker has said some truly reprehensible things in the last 6 months.

If you stand by what he says, you are not on the same side I am. The man is on the take.

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Such as?

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I literally just asked AI about Cruz and Levin and whether they've advocated for war with Iran

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BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!


Military strikes are not a war!

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(This is the strawman Tucker heavily relies on, pretending that a strike on nuclear facilities is equivalent to a ground war where American troops are fighting and will die… it's just a lie).

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You and Carlson were 100% WRONG about Iran. Bizarre that you can't just admit that.

Carlson pushes Iran, Qatar, Hamas and other Terrorist propoganda. "America First" my ass. He is a POS

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Hold on a second.

I support the Iran nuke take-out strike.

That established,

How are military strikes not a war?? As in, can lead to one?!

Is it defined only by the target being military? Does it not being in the home country of a nation not come at least into the line of a war act?

Did we not treat 9/11 (correctly) as Afghanistan enabling an attack on us?

Concerned here that our overwhelming power is being mistaken for changing the plain definitions of things. Lets use these two examples---- Reagan bombing of Tripoli and Ghadaffi's capital, and our Iran raid in June ---- would these not be war openers against someone with firepower --- if Reagan had done that inside Russia, or if we attacked an installation in China?

There has to be some clear-headedness on both sides. The isolationist side is over-estimating the war risk with rogue pariah powers; on the other hand the neocons are playing games with what are considered acts of war and real escalations, imo.