TX Special Session Rumor: Abbott to Insert Redistricting of U.S. House Districts

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Red Dane
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In reply to snowminer • 1:12p, 8/13/25
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Don't be dense. On a precinct level, there is simply no contiguous region in the entire state that would create a Republican majority district. You would literally have to create a gerrymander crawling across the state to create a Republican district. Even then, you'd get no more than 1 district. Spare me the gaslighting accusations.

Sure you could: 2024 Presidential Result vs the district map. 1 and 2 is a logical change and 4 could be argued as well.
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In reply to Red Dane • 1:20p, 8/13/25
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If land could vote, then Republicans would never lose an election again. This is the problem with using a map of counties showing a binary majority. It pretends that most those red counties of Massachusetts are equally populated and lean more red than those in blue. In reality, those red counties are orders of magnitude less populous and much closer to 50-50 than the blue counties.
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In reply to snowminer • 1:27p, 8/13/25
And if illegals and fake people couldn't vote, democrats would never win an election again.
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In reply to snowminer • 1:32p, 8/13/25
I agree with that, but it is clear that Mass has made every decision possible to split those areas (gerrymandering). You said there was no way they could construct a red district, but that does not appear to be the case. Make 1 and 2 boxes rather than puzzle pieces and it probably works out that way.
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1:35p, 8/13/25
And now do Maryland. Nothing nefarious there either.
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In reply to Red Dane • 1:42p, 8/13/25
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I don't think that's true. Each of Massachusetts' districts have about 780,000 constituents. The red leaning counties contained within districts 1 and 2 simply don't have enough population to get there. They would have to include nearby counties which lean much more blue. You would probably have to create a snake along some highway and get the red from districts 4 and 9 to get there, even then I'm not so sure.

Edit: Here is a paper on the subject. Their analysis agrees: it is virtually impossible to create a Republican district in Massachusetts.
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In reply to snowminer • 2:02p, 8/13/25
snowminer said:
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We could resolve a lot of these issues of representation by increasing the cap on the size of the House of Representatives. It's an artificial cap, not mandated by the constitution. At the founding of the country we had approximately 1 representative for every 30,000 constituents. Today, we have approximately 1 representative for every 800,000 constituents.

I can agree with this. The problem would become how many people should a single Congressman represent. 1 for every 30,000 is not possible. Even 1 for every 300,000 would be burdensome.
Side benefit it would cost those miscreants buying favors from Congressman a lot more money and time.
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In reply to richardag • 2:09p, 8/13/25
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richardag said:
snowminer said:
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We could resolve a lot of these issues of representation by increasing the cap on the size of the House of Representatives. It's an artificial cap, not mandated by the constitution. At the founding of the country we had approximately 1 representative for every 30,000 constituents. Today, we have approximately 1 representative for every 800,000 constituents.

I can agree with this. The problem would become how many people should a single Congressman represent. 1 for every 30,000 is not possible. Even 1 for every 300,000 would be burdensome.
Side benefit it would cost those miscreants buying favors from Congressman a lot more money and time.

The Permanent Apportionment Act of 1929 caps the House of Representatives at 435 members, so the number of people each member represents will only increase unless the law is changed, and increasing the number of representatives is likely unpalatable to both parties.
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In reply to richardag • 2:27p, 8/13/25
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richardag said:
snowminer said:
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We could resolve a lot of these issues of representation by increasing the cap on the size of the House of Representatives. It's an artificial cap, not mandated by the constitution. At the founding of the country we had approximately 1 representative for every 30,000 constituents. Today, we have approximately 1 representative for every 800,000 constituents.

I can agree with this. The problem would become how many people should a single Congressman represent. 1 for every 30,000 is not possible. Even 1 for every 300,000 would be burdensome.
Side benefit it would cost those miscreants buying favors from Congressman a lot more money and time.

We are already scraping the bottom of the barrel with the house candidates we have. Can't imagine how many more Crocketts and Tlaibs we would get by adding 10-20% more seats.
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In reply to Ellis Wyatt • 2:40p, 8/13/25
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Ellis Wyatt said:
And if illegals and fake people couldn't vote, democrats would never win an election again.


They don't actually vote despite the lies from the right.

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In reply to Ellis Wyatt • 2:45p, 8/13/25
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And if illegals and fake people couldn't vote, democrats would never win an election again.

You forgot the dead vote. They are strong supporters of the democrat party. I heard that from some Republicans, so there is that.
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In reply to snowminer • 3:35p, 8/13/25
snowminer said:
If land could vote, then Republicans would never lose an election again. This is the problem with using a map of counties showing a binary majority. It pretends that most those red counties of Massachusetts are equally populated and lean more red than those in blue. In reality, those red counties are orders of magnitude less populous and much closer to 50-50 than the blue counties.

You said the quiet part out loud. One acre one vote.
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In reply to t - cam • 4:35p, 8/13/25
That's BS.!
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In reply to txwxman • 4:38p, 8/13/25
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Yeah, forget that whole pesky revolutionary war, equality, democracy.... clearly we need to reestablish land based rule through wealth and station. Maybe we could even make up ranks to denote who has more...
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In reply to Ryan the Temp • 7:23p, 8/13/25
Ryan the Temp said:
richardag said:
snowminer said:
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We could resolve a lot of these issues of representation by increasing the cap on the size of the House of Representatives. It's an artificial cap, not mandated by the constitution. At the founding of the country we had approximately 1 representative for every 30,000 constituents. Today, we have approximately 1 representative for every 800,000 constituents.

I can agree with this. The problem would become how many people should a single Congressman represent. 1 for every 30,000 is not possible. Even 1 for every 300,000 would be burdensome.
Side benefit it would cost those miscreants buying favors from Congressman a lot more money and time.

The Permanent Apportionment Act of 1929 caps the House of Representatives at 435 members, so the number of people each member represents will only increase unless the law is changed, and increasing the number of representatives is likely unpalatable to both parties.

Thank you. My ignorance was showing.
We really need to rewrite our laws concerning libel and slander.
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In reply to t - cam • 10:18p, 8/13/25
False. And I know more about the process than you ever will.
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1:37p, 8/14/25
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Told you

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In reply to Charpie • 2:57p, 8/14/25
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Charpie said:
Told you


So, the TX Dems have to wait for the CA Dems to violate their state constitution prior to returning.

Sounds fair.
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In reply to Charpie • 3:00p, 8/14/25
You told us that they would wait for California before coming to do their jobs?

Arrest them.
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3:03p, 8/14/25
California would have to amend their constitution to get rid of the redistricting commission.

He would have to call a special election, get the resolution to pass, then do the redistricting.

The polling is CA in the last few days say that Californians want to keep the redistricting commission by 60+%
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In reply to will25u • 3:06p, 8/14/25
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California would have to amend their constitution to get rid of the redistricting commission.

He would have to call a special election, get the resolution to pass, then do the redistricting.

The polling is CA in the last few days say that Californians want to keep the redistricting commission by 60+%

I dont think Democrats care, they know they will still get elected in CA
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In reply to samurai_science • 3:09p, 8/14/25
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will25u said:
California would have to amend their constitution to get rid of the redistricting commission.

He would have to call a special election, get the resolution to pass, then do the redistricting.

The polling is CA in the last few days say that Californians want to keep the redistricting commission by 60+%

I dont think Democrats care, they know they will still get elected in CA

I don't know about that...I think a lot of California Dems are rethinking their allegiance to their party after the s*** show they've endured over the last few years. This could backfire spectacularly on them.
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4:12p, 8/14/25
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The biggest issue is some Dem seats will become endangered in wave elections.
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In reply to will25u • 5:56p, 8/14/25
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will25u said:
California would have to amend their constitution to get rid of the redistricting commission.

He would have to call a special election, get the resolution to pass, then do the redistricting.

The polling is CA in the last few days say that Californians want to keep the redistricting commission by 60+%

You remember why Newsom is not worried about a popular vote?

Los Angeles County has a specially designed electronic voting system that they specified and had created just for them...by...wait for it...Smartmatic.

The ONLY location in the US wherein Smartmatic continues to do active business.
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6:04p, 8/14/25
48-4 D+4

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In reply to will25u • 6:09p, 8/14/25
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4 ain't 5. Going through all of that for a one seat switch overall? Am I missing something?
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6:12p, 8/14/25
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Florida - You're up
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In reply to aggiehawg • 6:50p, 8/14/25
aggiehawg said:
4 ain't 5. Going through all of that for a one seat switch overall? Am I missing something?


I obviously can't read a spreadsheet. It would be a pick up of D+5.
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In reply to Charpie • 6:51p, 8/14/25
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Charpie said:
Told you


You would know.
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In reply to will25u • 6:54p, 8/14/25
will25u said:
aggiehawg said:
4 ain't 5. Going through all of that for a one seat switch overall? Am I missing something?


I obviously can't read a spreadsheet. It would be a pick up of D+5.
Well at current exodus rates California is going to lose 4 to 6 seats in the next census. Can't wait for Florida and then the whole South to redistrict after SCOTUS strikes down racist districts.
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8:16p, 8/14/25
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This is all bad. No good. The citizens have lost their republic.

F everyone involved.

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In reply to will25u • 8:54p, 8/14/25
The commission is all still a bunch of democrats.
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In reply to will25u • 9:03p, 8/14/25
will25u said:
48-4 D+4


Very well..... Let California do this ......

and enact MY TEXAS map with a 35-3 GOP advantage.


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In reply to Ellis Wyatt • 9:25p, 8/14/25
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Ellis Wyatt said:
The commission is all still a bunch of democrats.

The commission is restricted by their constitution to once per decade redistricting. They cannot do mid-decade redistricting.
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