1981 Monte Carlo said:

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Some of the Epstein files stuff is just hard to absorb, being a generally morally upstanding individual who just has sex with his wife and tries to be good to other people and do the right thing. It is just hard to digest a lot of this stuff...and I wanted to believe all of the "pizzagate" stuff was fabricated.

Is it possible that there is a lot of over the top exaggerated stuff implanted in there, maybe by intelligence agencies, or foreign adversaries, to murky the waters and ruin the reputations of thousands of people?

Sorry, but it is so hard to believe they are just casually talking about beheading young girls, or Bush Sr raping boys and cutting their feet off, or torturing young kids.

Why don;t we see more texts? Why is it all emails? Did Epstein just sit around and play on his email all day every day? Who sends that many emails to people? Even in 2014-2015 I was hardly sending emails to friends and peers.

I don't know...maybe I just dont want to believe it's really as bad as some of these emails indicate.

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A bunch of stuff, including the part I bolded was from anonymous tips to the FBI.

There is no evidence to back up those claims, but because someone reported it as an "Epstein tip" it ended in the files. This is why just mass releasing everything does nothing but create a feeding frenzy and all of the bull**** gets tossed around as fact.

Rapier108 said:

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1981 Monte Carlo said:

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Some of the Epstein files stuff is just hard to absorb, being a generally morally upstanding individual who just has sex with his wife and tries to be good to other people and do the right thing. It is just hard to digest a lot of this stuff...and I wanted to believe all of the "pizzagate" stuff was fabricated.

Is it possible that there is a lot of over the top exaggerated stuff implanted in there, maybe by intelligence agencies, or foreign adversaries, to murky the waters and ruin the reputations of thousands of people?

Sorry, but it is so hard to believe they are just casually talking about beheading young girls, or Bush Sr raping boys and cutting their feet off, or torturing young kids.

Why don;t we see more texts? Why is it all emails? Did Epstein just sit around and play on his email all day every day? Who sends that many emails to people? Even in 2014-2015 I was hardly sending emails to friends and peers.

I don't know...maybe I just dont want to believe it's really as bad as some of these emails indicate.

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A bunch of stuff, including the part I bolded was from anonymous tips to the FBI.

There is no evidence to back up those claims, but because someone reported it as an "Epstein tip" it ended in the files. This is why just mass releasing everything does nothing but create a feeding frenzy and all of the bull**** gets tossed around as fact.

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But does John Podesta really collect child torture art with scared crying kids tied up with red butt cheeks? Is the email from one redacted individual to Epstein talking about "the littelest girl being very naughty" real?

A lot of this is two-party private email correspondence between Epstein and redacted individuals, and it is disgusting. How do we know what's real and what's not?

I guess I was starting to believe maybe Epstein's friends were just hooking up with young girls/escorts mostly in their 20's, and the occasional 16-17 yr old. Then this drops. Not to minimize statutory rape, but some of this stuff is next level, if true. If even half of this is true, a lot of elites need to die. And at a minimum, we need to stop paying taxes (we should probably do that anyway lol).

shiftyandquick said:

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Politico says Dems are not protecting the Clintons on Epstein.

Take a hint Republicans, putting your leader ahead of the truth is not going to serve you well.

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/02/04/clinton-democrats-generations-gop-investigation-00763131

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Lol! You live in fantasy land.

Varies. There's pedo stuff, teenage girl stuff, adult prostitute stuff, adult model who wasn't a prostitute but was in his orbit and LOTS of totally innocuous interactions between individuals that had nothing to do with sex, much less illegal activity. Epstein was a hyper extrovert pursuing relationships with anyone he could for legitimacy purposes and provided connections to what people wanted. Sometimes that was connections, sometimes it was funding, sometimes it was women, sometimes it was young people.

Very disturbing stuff taken as a collective, but mere association doesn't mean illegal activity. It is indicative of poor judgement.

hph6203 said:

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Varies. There's pedo stuff, teenage girl stuff, adult prostitute stuff, adult model who wasn't a prostitute but was in his orbit and LOTS of totally innocuous interactions between individuals that had nothing to do with sex, much less illegal activity.

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Yeah, but the pedo stuff is so heinous it's hard to believe these are real emails. Why email casually about it and not text? Aren't emails much easier to hack?

I guess maybe I just really don't want to believe they just casually rape and/or torture little kids and talk about it like it's nothing. It's also hard to believe people just send short 5-6 word emails to each other at that volume too. What an inefficient means of commincation.

Something about it seems "off". Maybe that really is how boomers correspond and I just don't get it. Do they email like we text?

1981 Monte Carlo said:

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hph6203 said:

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Varies. There's pedo stuff, teenage girl stuff, adult prostitute stuff, adult model who wasn't a prostitute but was in his orbit and LOTS of totally innocuous interactions between individuals that had nothing to do with sex, much less illegal activity.

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Yeah, but the pedo stuff is so heinous it's hard to believe these are real emails. Why email casually about it and not text? Aren't emails much easier to hack?

I guess maybe I just really don't want to believe they just casually rape and/or torture little kids and talk about it like it's nothing. It's also hard to believe people just send short 5-6 word emails to each other at that volume too. What an inefficient means of commincation.

Something about it seems "off". Maybe that really is how boomers correspond and I just don't get it. Do they email like we text?

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It is hard to believe because you are a normal human being. People who meddle in that lifestyle are despicable and pure evil.
I have a friend that works for Twitch in their sex crime division which has direct communication with the FBI. Believe me, the dark side of this earth is nowhere you want to explore

Bill Gates breaks silence on the latest release of Epstein files: “I was foolish to spend time with him. I was one of many people who regret ever knowing him.”

pic.twitter.com/PXBYoAo1mq

— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) February 4, 2026

Okay, Billy boy.

My impression is there are two types of people that abuse kids. People that are attracted to kids and people who are attracted to destroying innocence/doing bad things/harming others. The latter extend their enjoyment by discussing it with similarly minded people. I'm sure they have their twisted preferences, but it probably doesn't matter if it's kids, women, animals, whatever they can inflict harm on they enjoy.

So… as I read more from this release by the DOJ, I'm starting to seriously wonder…

Were these all satanists and they raped, murdered, tortured, and ate children in rituals and it worked for their earthly gain?

I mean, surely a lot isn't true but there's a lot of smoke here. Did these people become the most powerful people on earth from doing these things or did they do it because they were already powerful and wanted to test the limits?

It makes me sick to my stomach thinking about it.

Obviously, their souls will spend eternity in hell but these poor children.

I'm sick from it.

hph6203 said:

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My impression is there are two types of people that abuse kids. People that are attracted to kids and people who are attracted to destroying innocence/doing bad things/harming others. The latter extend their enjoyment by discussing it with similarly minded people. I'm sure they have their twisted preferences, but it probably doesn't matter if it's kids, women, animals, whatever they can inflict harm on they enjoy.

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I think with most of the elites it's the latter. Either way it's absolutely disgusting

You're reading call in tips from mentally unwell people and trolling jackasses that called in tips to the FBI tip line in the aftermath of his arrest in 2019, not real victim statements. If the date on the document you're reading is after the summer of 2019 (realistically winter 2018 as that's when the Miami-Herald article dropped) there's a 99.9% chance it's sourced from a ****ty person behaving ****ty and disrupting a genuine investigation into real abuse.

[Keep trolling and earn a timeout -- Staff]

Either the newsrooms are entirely inept or there's nothing in those 5000 entries. I looked through 2000 files in under 8 hours. That was using very simple middle mouse click links listed 10 per page, next page, over and over again. 100 at a time and middle button close to view each open tab. You could easily get through the entire cache of files in under an hour with enough division of labor. Even faster if you download the entire cache of files and run a computer program to sort his mentions into chronological order and then divide, because of the quantity of repeats.

Most of the ones I looked through were repeats. It's probably close to 10-15 repeats of the same conversation between email, response, response and repetition of the same email with no additional responses. Plus instances of Epstein forwarding emails to others to call them a dumbass.


One of the funnier emails I saw was Epstein being asked to provide money to pay tuition for 6 college aged kids, to which he replied it was an honor to pay for their educations, because he didn't have children of his own. He then forwarded the persons request for tuition payments to someone else and said "it never ends." Canceled checks are in the files too, so he did end up following through.


At this point, because the information has been disclosed, you have to presume that there's nothing in the disclosed files and within the held back cache you have to believe that no one who has seen them wants the biggest pay day of their life by whistleblowing that they exist. Go to Massie or on CNN or MSNBC and say "I've seen the withheld files. I know what's in them. There is definitive proof that Donald Trump molested children and we should not harbor criminals, much less as our president." Get arrested for disclosing, get protests for your release, become a martyr and get a book deal you get ghostwritten for $10 million and if you ever need money in the future there's some non-pedo lefty billionaire waiting to write a check.

For all that to happen, first there has to be a held back cache of incriminating info. I think more and more Dems are coming to the realization it doesn't exist. It never did exist. Only the true TDS believers will cling to the notion, like flat earth believers who hang on despite all evidence to the contrary.

This conversation is so unbelievable, I had to triple check. https://t.co/TwaOkvAANv

— Lord Bebo (@MyLordBebo) February 4, 2026

In 2013, a French diplomat sends an email to Epstein asking if he can "organise a discreet meeting" between "Sarko and Hillary Clinton," and Epstein says "meetings with Hillary are not easily discreet. when?" Sarko is the ex-French president Nicolas Sarkozy who left office in… pic.twitter.com/p3LyKeXcZD

— Fifty Shades of Whey (@davenewworld_2) February 4, 2026

If you've learned anything in life, don't believe everything you see on the internet.

low quality fakes, and high quality fakes, can be more common than the truth.

Be very skeptical.

Trump: It bothers that they’re going after Bill Clinton. I like Bill Clinton.

Reporter: What do you like about him?

Trump: He got me. He understood me. pic.twitter.com/wNowPvORka

— Acyn (@Acyn) February 5, 2026

Zachary Klement said:

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Trump: It bothers that they’re going after Bill Clinton. I like Bill Clinton.

Reporter: What do you like about him?

Trump: He got me. He understood me. pic.twitter.com/wNowPvORka

— Acyn (@Acyn) February 5, 2026

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We have certainly come a LONG WAY from 2016 "lock her up" rhetoric

What the ****,Trump

1981 Monte Carlo said:

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Some of the Epstein files stuff is just hard to absorb, being a generally morally upstanding individual who just has sex with his wife and tries to be good to other people and do the right thing. It is just hard to digest a lot of this stuff...and I wanted to believe all of the "pizzagate" stuff was fabricated.

Is it possible that there could be a lot of over the top exaggerated or fabricated stuff implanted in there for nefarious purposes, maybe by intelligence agencies, or foreign adversaries, to murky the waters and ruin the reputations of thousands of people?

Sorry, but it is so hard to believe they are just casually talking about beheading young girls, or Bush Sr raping boys and cutting their feet off, or torturing young kids and just discussing it like it's nothing.

Why don't we see more texts? Why is it all emails? Aren't texts more secure? Did Epstein just sit around and play on his email all day every day? Who sends that many emails to people? Even in 2014-2015 I was hardly sending emails to friends and peers. Has he sent MILLIONS of emails?

I don't know...maybe I just dont want to believe it's really as bad as some of these emails indicate.

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Wait...

You had sex with his wife?

Kind of a ramble, but maybe interesting?

I think Kimbal Musk was dating a hooker (not underage) and didn't know she was a hooker. She's e-mailing Epstein her schedules, he's directing her to focus on Kimbal when she asks, occasionally directs her to the ranch or island, and she tells him when she's not with him so she can work/help out.

She tells Epstein that the people that decided to match make them were geniuses, Epstein says she should thank <redacted>.

Other people discussing their relationship say they're a cute couple, call their relationship a romance (Elon as well). In her communications with Epstein she says everyone knows everyone and you can not only not **** where you eat, you can't even **** where you ****, because she ran into so many people that knew each other while out with Kimbal. Apparently Kimbal and another one of her boyfriends? Clients? Marks? (Chad) had a mutual friend (Cyrus) and she decides she needs to break it off with Chad to focus on Kimbal.

He sends her an e-mail the day she's at her grandfather's funeral (autism runs in the family) saying he wants to slow the relationship down back to dating and asks if it's okay (who asks a hooker for permission?). She e-mails Epstein she doesn't think he's ever going to get serious with her and if not she doesn't want to see him anymore. He tells her good she's back full time and to head back to the ranch it'll make her feel better.

Why I think Kimbal is unaware:
She forwards the e-mail she sent to Epstein saying she wants to break it off with Kimbal to a guy named Steve Hanson. He basically says you ****ed it up, you're playing a game and you came on too fast and you now need to cut off contact now and ignore his calls, turn off your phone so it goes straight to voicemail.

Around the time of their break up was the 2013 Milken conference. Musk was going to have a lunch with Epstein, but after the girl breaks it off with Kimbal then Elon cancels lunch with Epstein perhaps because he thought it was a real relationship? During this period it seems like Kimbal and Epstein are in more communication than Musk. Kimbal doesn't email Epstein again after the break up.

She a year later sends an email to Epstein to say she bumped into Kimbal and they're talking again, suggesting that Epstein isn't involved in directing the interactions. Presumably the relationship doesn't fire up again during that time and she again emails in 2015 that she is back speaking to Kimbal.

Epstein receives an e-mail from Sultan Bin Sulayem saying he wants contact with Musk, because he wants Tesla to open a showroom to sell cars and wants to commit to buy 50 of them and asks if he can get into contact. He forwards that e-mail to this girl and asks if she's still in contact with Kimbal (suggesting Elon is no longer in communication with Epstein) and she says yes.

2017 Epstein e-mails Musk that the Sultan is a good guy and at least in the database he receives no response. No real correspondence between Musk and Epstein after late 2014? Might have years mixed up, might be 2013/early 2014 that they stop (looked at them two days ago). It was discussions of the island and Musk didn't end up going. Think it's when Musk gets food poisoning Jan 4, 2014 and cancels lunch on St Barth's.

Think that's a somewhat common theme, because Josh Fink was talking to a girl he was in a relationship and she's sending emails to Epstein saying she wants to break up with him, because he doesn't want to get serious. Fink says he wants more affection from her and he'd trade her having 5 Russian boyfriends for more affection. She says "you want me to have a boyfriend?" He says no that's not what I meant. She then tells him that's the kind of **** you say to a hooker. I believe she is a Czech "model" whether model means part time model, part time hooker is unknown. Why is he saying no don't have a boyfriend to a hooker?

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00959473.pdf

Kimbal is just finalizing a divorce, the redacted names in the email are, I believe, his kids and his sister just moved in with him.

Seems like an intelligence operation?


99% sure this is the guy in the e-mail. His stupid e-mail signature bragging about being certified green by some stupid green organization matches the statement in his bio. Reddit thread said he was subpoenaed in U.S. VI vs Epstein. Would not be surprised if this guy wasn't one of Epstein's 10 co-conspirators. Full name Stephen P. Hanson. He should be answering some ****ing questions. As should Kimbal.

https://platinum.hospitalitydesign.com/stephen-hanson/