Who?mikejones! said:

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BREAKING: Hamas accepts latest Gaza ceasefire and hostage deal proposal

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) August 18, 2025

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Let's not get too excited. Remember when hamas accepted a cease fire deal, but the "deal" they accepted was nothing like what was proposed and agreed upon?

Who?mikejones! said:

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In recent days, Egypt has pressed Hamas, saying the group is in denial while Gaza’s people continue to suffer.

— Polymarket Intel (@PolymarketIntel) August 18, 2025

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Funny that Egypt can see and say what the leftists on Texags are unwilling to acknowledge. Hamas has the power to end all the suffering in a heartbeat. But they won't.

Just curious: Why choose that point in time and history to determine the outcome of the Palestinian peoples? Why not go further back? Or just choose some other historically significant point? That area has been under conflict and consistent change for the better part of the last 5000 years. Many Palestinians are decedents of Canaanites who have been there since the beginning of recorded history, before Egypt as we know it, before Israel, before Palestine, before the US and before modern religion. So by changing the point at which you want to acknowledge Palestinian people, really can change the outcome and perspective significantly.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/1rFG8NaxYntZXKZ8S6toBk?si=7fxk0dmdRJqbgaBHG9Qpew


Heres a good interview with the man himself, bibi. The hosts are former liberals and now identify as neutral. Id considered them English conservatives.

Its not very long and they do challenge bibi on some statements. Overall, a good interview

BlackGold said:

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Just curious: Why choose that point in time and history to determine the outcome of the Palestinian peoples? Why not go further back? Or just choose some other historically significant point? That area has been under conflict and consistent change for the better part of the last 5000 years. Many Palestinians are decedents of Canaanites who have been there since the beginning of recorded history, before Egypt as we know it, before Israel, before Palestine, before the US and before modern religion. So by changing the point at which you want to acknowledge Palestinian people, really can change the outcome and perspective significantly.

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Because it's a response... Good Lord, why is reading comprehension so hard?

Let's pretend the Palestinians were descendants of some ancient people in the land we now call Israel 4 BILLION YEARS AGO....

I don't care. They have proven that today they cannot exist peacefully anywhere. Because of their own actions, their society's gotta go like the Comanche society had to go. What about the "civilians"? Too bad, so sad. That's what happens when you support killing everybody else. If you want the killing to stop, then return the hostages, lay down your arms, surrender, and stop attacking people forever. Until that happens, you and your compatriots deserve to die just like Ted Bundy deserved to die.



Edit: And BTW, despite it not mattering, the Jews were there first anyway. The word "Palestinian" come from the word "Philistine". The Philistines did not name themselves that, that was the name given to them by the Jews. Nobody knows what the Philistenes actually called themselves. In Hebrew, the word "philistine" means "INVADER". The people that the Jews called "Philistines" came from Crete AFTER the Jews were already there.

Bibi's comments on seeing Gazans start to turn against Hamas.

I'd love to know the detail behind that statement and the extent of which it's happening.

I mean, I can say I am starting to eat healthier, but leaving that half of donut in the box really isn't changing anything.

ABATTBQ11 said:

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BlackGold said:

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Just curious: Why choose that point in time and history to determine the outcome of the Palestinian peoples? Why not go further back? Or just choose some other historically significant point? That area has been under conflict and consistent change for the better part of the last 5000 years. Many Palestinians are decedents of Canaanites who have been there since the beginning of recorded history, before Egypt as we know it, before Israel, before Palestine, before the US and before modern religion. So by changing the point at which you want to acknowledge Palestinian people, really can change the outcome and perspective significantly.

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Because it's a response... Good Lord, why is reading comprehension so hard?

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Why are you so angry? I was curious about your position and by your response, you clearly can't defend it.

No, you were **** posting because you seemingly aren't capable of keeping on topic for two posts in a row.

sam callahan said:

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Bibi's comments on seeing Gazans start to turn against Hamas.

I'd love to know the detail behind that statement and the extent of which it's happening.

I mean, I can say I am starting to eat healthier, but leaving that half of donut in the box really isn't changing anything.

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Theres some news that had leaked out there about it. Let me see if I can find it again

because you are historically illiterate

the ancient Canaanites would be closer to the Jews in DNA and beliefs than-


ARABS FROM SAUDI ARABIA WHO MOVED TO THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE 400 years ago!

try explaining this- if the "Palestinians" were always in Gaza since Canaanite times as you claim

how in over 2,4000 years of population growth and "expulsion"

did their population end up at a whopping 80,000?

Gaza's population: While specific figures for Gaza in 1900 are elusive, we know that by the end of 1948, the population of the Gaza Strip was estimated to be around 80,000.

Palestinians do not predate Jews. Not even close. That's why the root of "Palestinian" means "invader".

Fake people couldn't even find a page by contestant. Must have all been Holocausted

She is from Michigan. Her mom's European. He dad is Egyptian.

She is the perfect representation 🤣🤣 https://t.co/FNM6eyPVeQ

— Rabbi S Litvin (@BluegrassRabbi) August 20, 2025

Good thread from our favorite data republican on the Hamas/Muslim brotherhood group here;

As a reminder, the Muslim Brotherhood *is* Hamas -- it is a sprawling, influential network which has received billions from Saudi Arabia.

One of the 9/11 terrorists was trained in a Brotherhood camp. But the US authorities had turned a blind eye to Brotherhood operations in the… pic.twitter.com/yaSkFPhxox

— DataRepublican (small r) (@DataRepublican) August 21, 2025

MSA's own homepage explicitly says its goal is to promote da'wah (the same mechanism that Qaradawi said that Islam would take over the world). pic.twitter.com/rtGDkCQ4rs

— DataRepublican (small r) (@DataRepublican) August 21, 2025

I find it very 'interesting' (but not surprising) that the Saudi's are involved. More at the thread.

aTmAg said:

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Palestinians do not predate Jews. Not even close. That's why the root of "Palestinian" means "invader".

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The Jews were in the land of Israel BY SCIENTIFIC PROOF at least some 3,300 years ago.

there were not even Arab Muslims until the year 632!!!

mass Arab immigration into the land of Judea did not begin until the 900s.

the Ottoman Turkish Empire disdained the land of Israel so much it was not even a regional capitol!! and no Arabs or Turks wanted to live in the barren desert up until the 1920s.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/25/journalists-among-people-killed-by-israeli-strike-on-gaza-hospital

Israel: Able to put a missile into the exact apartment, in Iran, to kill the intended target.

Also Israel: Calls in airstrikes on a hospital then kills responders in a 2nd, deliberate attack

Bibi actually apologized, but that won't revive the dead

Release the hostages

jagvocate said:

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/25/journalists-among-people-killed-by-israeli-strike-on-gaza-hospital

Israel: Able to put a missile into the exact apartment, in Iran, to kill the intended target.

Also Israel: Calls in airstrikes on a hospital then kills responders in a 2nd, deliberate attack

Bibi actually apologized, but that won't revive the dead

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This won't move the needle for the Israeli apologists on this board, but it should. Another tactical strike on a hospital to kill civilians. I'm sure all the people who were murdered in the second strike were all holding and involved with the hostages and not just trying to help….

BlackGold said:

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jagvocate said:

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/25/journalists-among-people-killed-by-israeli-strike-on-gaza-hospital

Israel: Able to put a missile into the exact apartment, in Iran, to kill the intended target.

Also Israel: Calls in airstrikes on a hospital then kills responders in a 2nd, deliberate attack

Bibi actually apologized, but that won't revive the dead

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This won't move the needle for the Israeli apologists on this board, but it should. Another tactical strike on a hospital to kill civilians. I'm sure all the people who were murdered in the second strike were all holding and involved with the hostages and not just trying to help….

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I have a serious question... do you guys completely not even see the propaganda language in there at all, or do you just ignore it and think there is some truth in there despite the obvious red flags?

BlackGold said:

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jagvocate said:

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/25/journalists-among-people-killed-by-israeli-strike-on-gaza-hospital

Israel: Able to put a missile into the exact apartment, in Iran, to kill the intended target.

Also Israel: Calls in airstrikes on a hospital then kills responders in a 2nd, deliberate attack

Bibi actually apologized, but that won't revive the dead

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This won't move the needle for the Israeli apologists on this board, but it should. Another tactical strike on a hospital to kill civilians. I'm sure all the people who were murdered in the second strike were all holding and involved with the hostages and not just trying to help….

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Better to be an Israeli apologist than a Hamas apologist...

But you do you...

Phatbob said:

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BlackGold said:

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jagvocate said:

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/25/journalists-among-people-killed-by-israeli-strike-on-gaza-hospital

Israel: Able to put a missile into the exact apartment, in Iran, to kill the intended target.

Also Israel: Calls in airstrikes on a hospital then kills responders in a 2nd, deliberate attack

Bibi actually apologized, but that won't revive the dead

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This won't move the needle for the Israeli apologists on this board, but it should. Another tactical strike on a hospital to kill civilians. I'm sure all the people who were murdered in the second strike were all holding and involved with the hostages and not just trying to help….

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I have a serious question... do you guys completely not even see the propaganda language in there at all, or do you just ignore it and think there is some truth in there despite the obvious red flags?

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Serious answer. I make my own decisions based on the information I have.


Video below of the attack.

Then: "journalists, doctors, and civil defense crews who rushed to treat the wounded and document the bombing were then murdered in the follow-up strike," as @DropSiteNews says.

Footage posted by Oscar-winner Israeli director @yuval_abraham:https://t.co/kFhWBBnruQ

— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) August 25, 2025

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Serious answer. I make my own decisions based on the information I have.

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So yes, you take it at face value, then. That is what I thought.

Phatbob said:

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BlackGold said:

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jagvocate said:

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/25/journalists-among-people-killed-by-israeli-strike-on-gaza-hospital

Israel: Able to put a missile into the exact apartment, in Iran, to kill the intended target.

Also Israel: Calls in airstrikes on a hospital then kills responders in a 2nd, deliberate attack

Bibi actually apologized, but that won't revive the dead

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This won't move the needle for the Israeli apologists on this board, but it should. Another tactical strike on a hospital to kill civilians. I'm sure all the people who were murdered in the second strike were all holding and involved with the hostages and not just trying to help….

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I have a serious question... do you guys completely not even see the propaganda language in there at all, or do you just ignore it and think there is some truth in there despite the obvious red flags?

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Yep.

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Israel has regularly struck hospitals, claiming without evidence that Hamas uses them for military purposes.

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Israel has shown NUMEROUS videos of weapons and things like that in hospitals in Gaza.

This is just typical Hamas and antisemitic propaganda masquerading as journalism...

Phatbob said:

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Serious answer. I make my own decisions based on the information I have.

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So yes, you take it at face value, then. That is what I thought.

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And you take it as what then? Is that video I posted fake? Do we not have all the context for the strike? What am I missing exactly? Israel has already come out and said "sorry", if you just look at the article above. That's to closest to admitting guilt we will see from Israel.

The first story to come out is always propaganda, and given the language in it, it is obvious that this is. The correction, the actual truth behind it, usually comes out later, but after those who are willing to eat it up have already done so. This happens every single time, but rather than be skeptical of the same playbook that turns out to be lies, it gets consumed as if history never happened.

Heavy criticism from people whose combat experience is Call of Duty.

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And you take it as what then? Is that video I posted fake? Do we not have all the context for the strike? What am I missing exactly? Israel has already come out and said "sorry", if you just look at the article above. That's to closest to admitting guilt we will see from Israel.

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It was an apology for if anyone who wasn't a target that was hit. So he is saying it was a legitimate target. Unfortunately, when combatants purposefully use civilian infrastructure (as Hamas has done as standard operating procedure for decades, which is a war crime btw), civilians will be put in harms way. That is how they want it. Upside for Hamas - they use their human shields successfully and they stay alive. Downside for Hamas - they die, but at least they get some propaganda out of it.

This is on Hamas.

And if you can't see the obvious propaganda language in the story and reports, then you really should stay away from news from that area.

Phatbob said:

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The first story to come out is always propaganda, and given the language in it, it is obvious that this is. The correction, the actual truth behind it, usually comes out later, but after those who are willing to eat it up have already done so. This happens every single time, but rather than be skeptical of the same playbook that turns out to be lies, it gets consumed as if history never happened.

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That's absolutely not accurate. There is a video of the attack -- filmed by an Israeli no less. Are you claiming the video is a deep fake or something? Israel has apologized, so the event clearly took place.

I am skeptical. Very skeptical. Why don't you trying being skeptical of Israel? They are probably the world's best at pumping out the propaganda.

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And you take it as what then? Is that video I posted fake? Do we not have all the context for the strike? What am I missing exactly? Israel has already come out and said "sorry", if you just look at the article above. That's to closest to admitting guilt we will see from Israel.

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It was an apology for if anyone who wasn't a target that was hit. So he is saying it was a legitimate target. Unfortunately, when combatants purposefully use civilian infrastructure (as Hamas has done as standard operating procedure for decades, which is a war crime btw), civilians will be put in harms way. That is how they want it. Upside for Hamas - they use their human shields successfully and they stay alive. Downside for Hamas - they die, but at least they get some propaganda out of it.

This is on Hamas.

And if you can't see the obvious propaganda language in the story and reports, then you really should stay away from news from that area.

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Clearly the language is provocative, but as a big boy I am capable of seeing through it and making my decision based on the actual and factual footage of the event. The language and bias of the tweet author, doesn't change the fact that Israel killed 20 civilians at a hospital in Gaza and has since apologized for it. I think Israel is in the wrong.

Yes, the strike happened. I'm not arguing that. Who was it targeting? Why were they in the hospital to begin with? Why are you taking the initial story as factual when they quote "Health officials" as their source. Anyone who has been paying attention for 30 minutes knows "Health officials" is Hamas. It's like going to MSNBC and expecting the stories on the front page to tell you 100% truth - it's not a conclusion a reasonable person would make.

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Phatbob said:

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The first story to come out is always propaganda, and given the language in it, it is obvious that this is. The correction, the actual truth behind it, usually comes out later, but after those who are willing to eat it up have already done so. This happens every single time, but rather than be skeptical of the same playbook that turns out to be lies, it gets consumed as if history never happened.

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That's absolutely not accurate. There is a video of the attack -- filmed by an Israeli no less. Are you claiming the video is a deep fake or something? Israel has apologized, so the event clearly took place.

I am skeptical. Very skeptical. Why don't you trying being skeptical of Israel? They are probably the world's best at pumping out the propaganda.

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The video is right out in front of them and they still can't believe it and instead obfuscate per usual.

Israel has been doing this since the start of the war (targeting innocent civilians). The only reason they even said something is because it was on video and is undeniable. If there was no video, they would have just said they were bringing in weapons or some other BS and the usual people would just fall over and believe it.

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Yes, the strike happened. I'm not arguing that. Who was it targeting? Why were they in the hospital to begin with? Why are you taking the initial story as factual when they quote "Health officials" as their source. Anyone who has been paying attention for 30 minutes knows "Health officials" is Hamas. It's like going to MSNBC and expecting the stories on the front page to tell you 100% truth - it's not a conclusion a reasonable person would make.

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Ok so we can debate the merits of the strike. I don't agree with the strike on a hospital that killed 20 civilians. Even if it means killing a few Hamas. Period. It's kind of crazy that we can just be cool with people who have nothing to do with the situation, besides just living and existing there, being killed just to get a few bad guys.

Same thing with Obama and his drone program. Think the final totals were 3500+ enemies killed with over 300+ civilians killed. Roughly 1 in 11 people killed were civilians. That is disgusting and absurd. We gained essentially nothing from that either, we certainly didn't root out the terrorism in the region and probably made it worse. It is definitely a strategy to use if you want to get people to hate you.

Right... you know, if Israel was actually targeting innocent civilians, they have easier ways to do that. It amazes me how people will buy that Israel is simultaneously devious, genocidal and also crazy inefficient at doing so.

So you tell me, what is the answer to countering the strategy of Hamas hiding in civilian infrastructure? Does making sure it is successful discourage that?