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AI will probably make it even more accurate and effective if managed correctly. Certainly has the potential. Someone joked about having a robot teach -- would be better than a Marxist making students into NPC drones and robots themselves.

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Fact is, Marxist teachers are robots of the cause.

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My wife typically shows CBS's "Your World in 90 Seconds" to her AP Lang kids to prompt discussion on current events, analyze rhetoric in speakers, etc. She waited until yesterday to show something involving Charlie Kirk for obvious reasons. One of her Kirk supporting students tried to get her to share her opinions on Kirk, and she didn't take the bait. He kept after her, and she finally asked the kid if he knew who Brett Kavanaugh and Clayton Williams are. Kid didn't know, and she suggested he look them up and see why she wouldn't choose to share her thoughts.

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A dead-on neutral approach she might have taken was that what mattered here was Kirk was shot while doing exactly what universities were suppose to protect and promote. But certainly not criticizing even a fraction--she was one in the room and knew the temperature.

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This is also a class where a student asked her if she came from the school where all the colored kids attended. So...yeah.

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It's terrifying and shocking to me how many female public school teachers are absolutely toxic and reprehensible human beings that are influencing our kids.

Homeschooling will become the norm. These women are truly broken.

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It's just statistics. Most teachers are women and most are great people. Unfortunatley, there's always going to be a percentage of unattractive, mentally ill, leftists.

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Or even better, take the education field to the conservatives. School choice.

This is exactly where I am. I don't care where they are teaching (public, private, primary, middle, high school, college, or professional ). If they celebrate a murder online they are not fit to teach kids or young adults.

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It's terrifying and shocking to me how many female public school teachers are absolutely toxic and reprehensible human beings that are influencing our kids.

Homeschooling will become the norm. These women are truly broken.

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It's just statistics. Most teachers are women and most are great people. Unfortunatley, there's always going to be a percentage of unattractive, mentally ill, leftists.

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purely anecdotal every woman teacher I have known are die hard liberals not too far-fetched to believe most are this way.

Teacher at my kid's school couldn't help herself…person who sent me the posts notified TEA

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Conservatives need to get into the education field.

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While I don't disagree, how do we incentivize this? It's not a field many conservatives seem to want to enter, at least not at higher levels of education.

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Thankful I live in a conservative district where most of the teachers and admins are Christian and keep their politics to themselves.

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100%. Here's something that happens to a lot of small town districts the past 10-20 years. Millenial child of small town rural, probably conservative parents goes to college to become a school teacher. They go to Tu or some other left wing school and get totally indoctrinated. But because they have no skills or stuff to offer, they are relegated to moving BACK TO their home town, and getting jobs at the SAME SCHOOLS THEY WENT TO, given preferential hiring by that persons FORMER TEACHERS, then as soon as said kid is in the classroom, it's the far left CRT bs from a college campus has suddenly taken root in your 2A district.

Many such cases.

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Or even better, take the education field to the conservatives. School choice.

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I'm a proponent of vouchers and have always been. Conservatives still need to get into the business of being educators, which they have virtually abandoned because it's too inconvenient.

Also, public schools should get the same leeway that private schools do. End standardized testing and let parents decide if the school is meeting their expectations.

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While I don't disagree, how do we incentivize this? It's not a field many conservatives seem to want to enter, at least not at higher levels of education.

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The incentive is service to others.

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That's awesome! I've been a public school teacher for 28 years, unfortunately liberalism runs rampant in the profession.

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It has been an eye opening experience working in public education the last two years. There are some lefty loons running the place at all levels.

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And it exists in small towns too. It's a constant battle

100's of thousands murdered in schools? someone probably thinks 10's of thousands of unarmed are killed by cops each month

While that could well be happening, I doubt in in the case of where I live. I know a few folks on the school board as well as some of the admin. I highly doubt that sort of thing would be tolerated for very long here.

My county votes (R) at a 90% clip. If there are leftists teachers in our ISD, they keep it to themselves. And keeping their political views to themselves is not something that comes naturally to a leftist when they're in a position of influence.

That's a pretty hard sell, given what teaching pays vs other employment opportunities.

I volunteer my time with a few organizations while holding employment that pays a lot more than a teaching position, or even a university lecturer.

I can serve my community and provide a better standard of living for my family than I could working in education.

I think a lot of conservatives would hold the same view. While both are important, welfare of the family is going to come before welfare of the community.

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That said, she has been pretty startled at the number of angry, single (mostly divorced), women she works with.

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I have a family member who has worked in an elementary school for more than 20 years.

When she started, the teachers were all married women with children of their own. They chose education so they could be at home with their kids during breaks. Many of them were relatively affluent since their husbands had good jobs.

About 10-15 years ago, the faculty makeup began to change. Most of the teachers now are single or divorced, and many don't have children. She hasn't had a principal who has his/her own children in a decade or longer.

With younger and single/divorced teachers, you inevitably get more with a liberal bent.

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Here's the REAL problem with public schools...

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Teacher at my kid's school couldn't help herself…person who sent me the posts notified TEA

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Never understand this equivalency. Do they just want to be under Islamist, gang crime (or pick your risk) rule? Why always is the emphasis on disarmament rather than escalating punishment? And so many of them would likely object to the beating followed by the execution of such miscreants - of the ones who don't suicide. So what is with them.

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While at A&M, a member of our friend group was a soldier who had done two tours and came back to school to get his degree. He was dating a girl who was a second-grade teacher at one of the CS elementaries. The first few times she came out with us to The Hall on a Thursday night were a bit jarring. Was my 2nd-grade teacher out partying during the week? Did she ever show up a little hungover? I had no clue at the time, and how it should be.

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As the former boyfriend of a 22 year old second grade teacher (I married her) I can assure that yes she out partying on school nights and doing other fun things.

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When many of us were kids we never even pictured our teachers outside of the classroom. We didn't think about spouse, kids, vacations, pets...nothing. That is how it should be. Social media again is just too much; private lives need to stay private. Getting fired for sharing an opinion is a bit much; but being dumb enough to post something controversial and/or inappropriate shows a level of stupidity that imho is a fireable offense for any public servant.

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Unless I'm mistaken, the posts that are getting people fired have gone well beyond "sharing an opinion." They're glorifying/praising criminal acts (murder in this case), and some I think are potentially inciting additional acts.

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As long as that's what this is, then I have no problem with the firings. My wife is a history teacher and certainly not a fan of Trump or Abbott, but she is careful to NOT give her kids any idea of her political beliefs. She understands her job is to teach history, inspire critical thinking, and keep her own biases out of the classroom.

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While at A&M, a member of our friend group was a soldier who had done two tours and came back to school to get his degree. He was dating a girl who was a second-grade teacher at one of the CS elementaries. The first few times she came out with us to The Hall on a Thursday night were a bit jarring. Was my 2nd-grade teacher out partying during the week? Did she ever show up a little hungover? I had no clue at the time, and how it should be.

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As the former boyfriend of a 22 year old second grade teacher (I married her) I can assure that yes she out partying on school nights and doing other fun things.

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Someone has never been to the bar at Applebee's on a Friday evening (not that I blame him for that).

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While that could well be happening, I doubt in in the case of where I live. I know a few folks on the school board as well as some of the admin. I highly doubt that sort of thing would be tolerated for very long here.

My county votes (R) at a 90% clip. If there are leftists teachers in our ISD, they keep it to themselves. And keeping their political views to themselves is not something that comes naturally to a leftist when they're in a position of influence.

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If you have teachers or administrators under the age of 45 with an education degree from a public university, then that degree plan included a ton of CRT and DEI.

They may not realize it, they may have called it something else, they might not vocalize it, and they may even have disagreed with it. But it 100% was part of their training. ESPECIALLY if they have a master's degree

I agree.

More administration is the typical response to more regulation.

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Just be aware you are trading one set of problems for another.

Most "Christian" schools are anything but "Christian," especially in MS and HS.

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Such a difficult topic. Do you mean the kids behavior or the school and administration? If i had kids I would struggle with moving to a small conservative town and doing public school (with lots of input and oversight by mom and dad) or sending them to Christian School, knowing the pitfalls that can exist there.

However, wouldn't even consider medium town to large town public school.

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My wife typically shows CBS's "Your World in 90 Seconds" to her AP Lang kids to prompt discussion on current events, analyze rhetoric in speakers, etc. She waited until yesterday to show something involving Charlie Kirk for obvious reasons. One of her Kirk supporting students tried to get her to share her opinions on Kirk, and she didn't take the bait. He kept after her, and she finally asked the kid if he knew who Brett Kavanaugh and Clayton Williams are. Kid didn't know, and she suggested he look them up and see why she wouldn't choose to share her thoughts.

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She probably made the right choice, but if I asked, I would have politely and calmly shared. Kids need to hear truth.

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Hope that one former Aggie that folks were screenshotting her Twitter account of was one of them….

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Can't forget Miss Netta

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When many of us were kids we never even pictured our teachers outside of the classroom. We didn't think about spouse, kids, vacations, pets...nothing. That is how it should be. Social media again is just too much; private lives need to stay private. Getting fired for sharing an opinion is a bit much; but being dumb enough to post something controversial and/or inappropriate shows a level of stupidity that imho is a fireable offense for any public servant.

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Back in 95 or so I was in an AP Bio class in high school. Great teacher but stern. One day a couple of us saw her smoking out in public and asked her about it the next day at school. To this day I remember the ass chewing we got about minding our own damn business and "what teachers do on their own time was none of our concern"

Great lady. Wish teachers were still this way.

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Early 90's me and some friends ran in to our principal at the grocery story on a Friday night. The only thing in his cart was several frozen pizzas and two cases of beer. We didn't say anything, just gave him the smartass look and he says "well boys, my wife is visiting her mom this weekend so I'm home alone, and mind your own business". I've chuckled to myself about that for three decades.

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What brand of beer?

Our kid's grade school didn't have a single male teacher nor administrator. This was 2011 thru 2020. The only males on the campus were custodians. The all women workforces was almost exclusively:

Recent grads on the husband hunt and/or getting married soon.
Younger moms that went back to work because the family needed the extra income and they basically took the kids to work with them.
Moms with teens or grown kids that didn't need the income but liked staying busy.

Again, that was grade school. My wife's middle school is a mix of angry divorced women, dorky men, and those just holding on until they qualify to retire (most of whom are angry divorced women and dorky men).

Rainer (aka the Rain Dog). If you've never heard of it I would not be surprised. Local brewery, puro piss in a can.

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While at A&M, a member of our friend group was a soldier who had done two tours and came back to school to get his degree. He was dating a girl who was a second-grade teacher at one of the CS elementaries. The first few times she came out with us to The Hall on a Thursday night were a bit jarring. Was my 2nd-grade teacher out partying during the week? Did she ever show up a little hungover? I had no clue at the time, and how it should be.

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As the former boyfriend of a 22 year old second grade teacher (I married her) I can assure that yes she out partying on school nights and doing other fun things.

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Someone has never been to the bar at Applebee's on a Friday evening (not that I blame him for that).

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I was more of an Olive Garden guy.

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My wife typically shows CBS's "Your World in 90 Seconds" to her AP Lang kids to prompt discussion on current events, analyze rhetoric in speakers, etc. She waited until yesterday to show something involving Charlie Kirk for obvious reasons. One of her Kirk supporting students tried to get her to share her opinions on Kirk, and she didn't take the bait. He kept after her, and she finally asked the kid if he knew who Brett Kavanaugh and Clayton Williams are. Kid didn't know, and she suggested he look them up and see why she wouldn't choose to share her thoughts.

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She probably made the right choice, but if I asked, I would have politely and calmly shared. Kids need to hear truth.

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Kids lie when their lips are moving. Even if she would have chose to do so, it would get woven into something that it wasn't by the time it got back to the parents.

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Just be aware you are trading one set of problems for another.

Most "Christian" schools are anything but "Christian," especially in MS and HS.

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I had not heard this, do have any links exposing these "anything but "Christian" schools. We sent our daughters to a Christian elementary school with no regrets at all.

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It's terrifying and shocking to me how many female public school teachers are absolutely toxic and reprehensible human beings that are influencing our kids.

Homeschooling will become the norm. These women are truly broken.

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It's not just the women. We're seeing a lot of men exposing the same views. But the majority of teachers are women.

And taking a look at some of them are both sexes it shocks me anyone any school would hire people that look like and act like them.

I mean that weirdo dude from a few months ago that stabbed a couple to death in a park that they found in a barbershop who the hell would've hired that weirdo to be a teacher or substitute teacher?

There are supposedly "elite" prep academies all over the place with christian sounding names that aren't really faith based and full of lefty families/teachers/admin. Mostly inside the loop type places. They really aren't hard to find, and they aren't that hard to sift out.