MemphisAg1 said:

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Teslag said:

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MSNBC is pissed

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That's how you know the Dems caved!

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twitter saying Alexandra ocasssio cortez is pissed!!

Jock 07 said:

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Did I just see that chuckie voted no? So his caucus is openly defying him?

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it's impossible this idiot believes he could ever be elected again in New York- but apparently he does so he is trying to be more socialist than the socialists

this would be amazing if indeed it's a democrat coup against his leadership

StEdsCOOG said:

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So will this be considered a bad look for Schumer if enough Dems break rank without his blessing? I'm not very political so excuse me if that was a dumb question.

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It's not a dumb question

I think it will make Schumer look humiliated, weak and partisan

if 10 democrats break ranks and he still votes no.

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Gaeilge said:

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AOC will use the 8 dems breaking ranks as her launch point for Schumer's seat.

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So be it. I would love for AOC to knock Schumer out. He's such an evil turd.

Frankly, the more these kooks like Mamdani and AOC get elevated to spout their socialistic BS, the better it is for us regular folks that appreciate capitalism and limited government.

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Yes he is.

But, he is ALSO good at what he does, maneuvering the Senate Dems to do what they do...

AOC doesn't have those skills...which hopefully will make the Senate Dems weaker...

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something not many Republicans have ever understood

as much as we made fun of Pelosi, hillary, Bernie, Schumer and Durbin-

those idiots KNEW HOW TO RUN THE CONGRESS

you think AOC has any clue about pulling the insanity Chuck knew about? even when she has staff, they still won't be as good as Pelosi was. and the fundraising will dry up from large sectors once Pelosi and Schumer and Bernie are gone

Gaeilge said:

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After 40 days as a consistent voice against shutting our government down, I voted YES for the 15th time to REOPEN.

I’m sorry to our military, SNAP recipients, gov workers, and Capitol Police who haven’t been paid in weeks.

It should’ve never come to this.

This was a failure.

— U.S. Senator John Fetterman (@SenFettermanPA) November 10, 2025

Dude is sooooo getting primaried.

I've gained a lot of respect for him throughout this.

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he needs to join the Republican party where he won't face a primary and would be supported in the general

also he is a HUGE Zionist which is anathema to the leftists- it makes them go insane

Schumer now needs to go. I know 2028 is a long ways away, but he'll be 78 years old.

And AOC will not be party leader, so no use in comparing her management of the party caucus - she'll just be a junior senator. Dick Durbin, who voted for cloture, is next man up.

EDIT: Durbin is retiring.

txags92 said:

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YouBet said:

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What did the republicans have to concede to get cloture passed?

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Sounds like they will rehire the deep state that were let go.

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It was only the people fired after the shutdown started, not all of the people DOGEd.

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Sounds like an R loss to me.

And he's a leftist. We need more leftists with moderate positions, we don't need more leftists in the GOP.

txags92 said:

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YouBet said:

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MagnumLoad said:

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What did the republicans have to concede to get cloture passed?

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Sounds like they will rehire the deep state that were let go.

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It was only the people fired after the shutdown started, not all of the people DOGEd.

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Ok, that's better. Not sure how many people that is or which jobs. Thanks.

It's absolutely hilarious to see Democrats pissed off and crying about the Republicans promising a vote on ACA in December by agreeing to this vote now. Democrats have been absolute masters of raping Republicans for decades with this strategy. The Republicans finally do it one time and they call foul. If it wasn't for double standards......

Also, the Dem civil war heats up:

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Rep. Ro Khanna (D., Calif.) called for Schumer to resign, saying that he "is no longer effective and should be replaced."

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The Dem tears are delicious! Amazing how quickly last week turned from joy to anger for them.

And the socialist mayor in NYC will prove to set them back years when the fools who elected him learn it was all a mirage.

MemphisAg1 said:

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The Dem tears are delicious! Amazing how quickly last week turned from joy to anger for them.

And the socialist mayor in NYC will prove to set them back years when the fools who elected him learn it was all a mirage.

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let's see how 35 year old Nepo Baby from Uganda handles the first snow storm removal, shooting, fire, anti-Jewish hate attack, balancing the budget, putting in rent controls for every building, community markets, free buses, more attacks on subways, fewer police officers.

it's going to be glorious

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MemphisAg1 said:

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it's going to be glorious

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Yes and no.

The rich liberals deserve it.

I feel sorry for those too poor to escape New York. It's how I feel when I visit ABQ and see mom and pop businesses and small houses in bad neighborhoods, all with bars on the window and razor wire on the fence.

The little people don't deserve the crime and chaos engendered by the elite.

GOP wins at the shutdown

SMELLS LIKE VICTORY

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The little people don't deserve the crime and chaos engendered by the elite.

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Totally agree with that, but I think the Mamdani win in NYC was driven by the poor who embrace the idea of socialism, with a heavy youth turnout. I'd bet most of the rich elite Dems voted for Cuomo because they knew what they had at risk if Mamdani won. The R's likely voted for Sliwa or held their nose and voted for Cuomo.

I haven't seen any demographic data of voters however and could be wrong.

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Dude is sooooo getting primaried.

I've gained a lot of respect for him throughout this.

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Truth bombs by Democrats are always punished, while lies are rewarded. What a screwed up system.

I will take re-hiring the 4K that got riffed during the shutdown. That's small potatoes.

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Also, the Dem civil war heats up:

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Rep. Ro Khanna (D., Calif.) called for Schumer to resign, saying that he "is no longer effective and should be replaced."

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This did not age will for Chuck

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CanyonAg77 said:

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The little people don't deserve the crime and chaos engendered by the elite.

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Totally agree with that, but I think the Mamdani win in NYC was driven by the poor who embrace the idea of socialism, with a heavy youth turnout. I'd bet most of the rich elite Dems voted for Cuomo because they knew what they had at risk if Mamdani won. The R's likely voted for Sliwa or held their nose and voted for Cuomo.

I haven't seen any demographic data of voters however and could be wrong.

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I have. Mamdani won because of foreign born New Yorkers and those with college degrees. The youth are wrapped up in those two groups.

Foreigners and college educated people are our dumbest citizens. I bet no one predicted we would ultimately end up with that kind of synergy in this country.

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When republican voters stop being able to afford healthcare, dems need to make it very clear whose fault it is.

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Government has no role in healthcare. Government makes NOTHING cheaper.

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Free market healthcare is a failed experiment

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Doesn't understand what free market is.

What does the blue represent in your graph?

2000AgPhD said:

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I will take re-hiring the 4K that got riffed during the shutdown. That's small potatoes.

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Honest question as I've been busy the past bit and have been a little out of the loop on why this CR is such a huge win for R's. Why is it a win for the GOP voting for a CR that is pretty much continuing the spending that the D's wanted the last go around?

Is this not a case of the Overton window moving left where now the D's want more leftism but the GOP is happy to get the D's leftism of yesteryear?

The only win I see here is the D's making themselves look like fools wanting to go further left, but that will happen regardless if the GOP moves left or tries to be conservative with a budget. We can't even keep the firings that happened during the shutdown which seem like a bare minimum we should expect to "win". This reeks of uniparty pulling the wool over the conservatives eyes and somehow the right is rejoicing. Make it make sense.

Tea Party said:

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txags92 said:

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YouBet said:

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MagnumLoad said:

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What did the republicans have to concede to get cloture passed?

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Sounds like they will rehire the deep state that were let go.

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It was only the people fired after the shutdown started, not all of the people DOGEd.

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Sounds like an R loss to me.

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Is it though? They wouldn't have lost the jobs had they just signed the CR originally. All they're getting back is from the consequences of not signing the CR originally. Basically just a waste of their time/political capital for the past month and a half.

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2000AgPhD said:

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I will take re-hiring the 4K that got riffed during the shutdown. That's small potatoes.

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Honest question as I've been busy the past bit and have been a little out of the loop on why this CR is such a huge win for R's. Why is it a win for the GOP voting for a CR that is pretty much continuing the spending that the D's wanted the last go around?

Is this not a case of the Overton window moving left where now the D's want more leftism but the GOP is happy to get the D's leftism of yesteryear?

The only win I see here is the D's making themselves look like fools wanting to go further left, but that will happen regardless if the GOP moves left or tries to be conservative with a budget. We can't even keep the firings that happened during the shutdown which seem like a bare minimum we should expect to "win". This reeks of uniparty pulling the wool over the conservatives eyes and somehow the right is rejoicing. Make it make sense.

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You are absolutely correct. I'll go you one further. In my view, every single CR is a failure. Success would be passing the individual appropriations bills on time. Every single year.

So they voted for cloture which means final votes are coming, but democrats can delay 30 hours between each vote.

When do we think this actually ends?

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2000AgPhD said:

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I will take re-hiring the 4K that got riffed during the shutdown. That's small potatoes.

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Honest question as I've been busy the past bit and have been a little out of the loop on why this CR is such a huge win for R's. Why is it a win for the GOP voting for a CR that is pretty much continuing the spending that the D's wanted the last go around?

Is this not a case of the Overton window moving left where now the D's want more leftism but the GOP is happy to get the D's leftism of yesteryear?

The only win I see here is the D's making themselves look like fools wanting to go further left, but that will happen regardless if the GOP moves left or tries to be conservative with a budget. We can't even keep the firings that happened during the shutdown which seem like a bare minimum we should expect to "win". This reeks of uniparty pulling the wool over the conservatives eyes and somehow the right is rejoicing. Make it make sense.

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Well, this CR was simply preserving what was already passed in the OBBB in the spring and was a stopgap for the next round of appropriations. The Democrats held this up because they wanted to refight the same battle we already had with the OBBB with their demands to put $1.5T right back into this CR which was everything that was cut when OBBB was passed earlier.

The only concessions seem to be rehiring ~4k workers that got furloughed during the shutdown which never would have happened if Dems hadn't shut us down, and a promise to vote on ACA subsidies which likely would have happened anyway due to political pressure from constituents.

Thus, in that regard there is really no net damage done here and the Democrats lost their battle to get spending reinstated to the OBBB. This is all assumes there isn't something hidden that we haven't seen yet, which is always a danger.

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2000AgPhD said:

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I will take re-hiring the 4K that got riffed during the shutdown. That's small potatoes.

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Honest question as I've been busy the past bit and have been a little out of the loop on why this CR is such a huge win for R's. Why is it a win for the GOP voting for a CR that is pretty much continuing the spending that the D's wanted the last go around?

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What do you think the alternative was at this point?

YouBet said:

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Tea Party said:

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2000AgPhD said:

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I will take re-hiring the 4K that got riffed during the shutdown. That's small potatoes.

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Honest question as I've been busy the past bit and have been a little out of the loop on why this CR is such a huge win for R's. Why is it a win for the GOP voting for a CR that is pretty much continuing the spending that the D's wanted the last go around?

Is this not a case of the Overton window moving left where now the D's want more leftism but the GOP is happy to get the D's leftism of yesteryear?

The only win I see here is the D's making themselves look like fools wanting to go further left, but that will happen regardless if the GOP moves left or tries to be conservative with a budget. We can't even keep the firings that happened during the shutdown which seem like a bare minimum we should expect to "win". This reeks of uniparty pulling the wool over the conservatives eyes and somehow the right is rejoicing. Make it make sense.

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Well, this CR was simply preserving what was already passed in the OBBB in the spring and was a stopgap for the next round of appropriations. The Democrats held this up because they wanted to refight the same battle we already had with the OBBB with their demands to put $1.5T right back into this CR which was everything that was cut when OBBB was passed earlier.

The only concessions seem to be rehiring ~4k workers that got furloughed during the shutdown which never would have happened if Dems hadn't shut us down, and a promise to vote on ACA subsidies which likely would have happened anyway due to political pressure from constituents.

Thus, in that regard there is really no net damage done here and the Democrats lost their battle to get spending reinstated to the OBBB. This is all assumes there isn't something hidden that we haven't seen yet, which is always a danger.

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This is the part that I keep getting hung up on as a limited government conservative. CR's in itself is damaging, especially when the baseline is extremely high levels of spending with minimal oversight during the approval process.

R's are celebrating continueing more big spending and enabling our budget leaders (Congress) to avoid doing their job, and the win is that it isn't as big of spending as what the D's want.

I don't see that anywhere close to being a win, but understand why some centrists would though.

Ellis Wyatt said:

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Tea Party said:

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2000AgPhD said:

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I will take re-hiring the 4K that got riffed during the shutdown. That's small potatoes.

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Honest question as I've been busy the past bit and have been a little out of the loop on why this CR is such a huge win for R's. Why is it a win for the GOP voting for a CR that is pretty much continuing the spending that the D's wanted the last go around?

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What do you think the alternative was at this point?

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Over the past 40 days, people are starting to realize how much people mooch off of the government and are not being contributors to society in even small ways, and people are also starting to realize how little government is actually affecting their lives in a positve way since not much has changed the past 40 days during the government shut down.

Keep the shut down going until either Congressional leaders make an actual budget, or the populace realizes government has not been working for them and starts to reevaluate their voting habits. There aren't many chances you get at a huge cultural win like this and the best course of action is to roll the dice and try for that rather than settle on a small loss. Though some call the status quo a win.

Rs will never get enough D votes to overcome the filibuster and pass a budget in the Senate