major MAHA announcement tomorrow

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Aggie1205 said:

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Sorry your whole community made asses of themselves and lost the trust of the public. It'll take decades to earn it back, justifiably so. Tyrant.

What should happen to politicians who suggested people take the covid vaccine?


Never trusted politicians anyway so no change here.
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01agtx said:

Why would the government ban it? They don't ban aspirin in children, they recommend they don't take it.

If Trump is saying that Tylenol is the cause of autism, shouldn't he be morally obligated to ban it? Think of the societal affects of having no children with autism. Trump pointed out that autism doesn't exist in the Amish or Cuba.

I still don't know how Tylenol was only created in 1955 but autism(diagnosed) existed for long before that...................
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Commenting on the reasons to treat fever. Your comment wasn't solely about pregnant women.

But, people with epilepsy are more prone to seizure activity with fever.
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coolerguy12 said:

Aggie1205 said:

ChrisTAMU said:

Sorry your whole community made asses of themselves and lost the trust of the public. It'll take decades to earn it back, justifiably so. Tyrant.

What should happen to politicians who suggested people take the covid vaccine?


Never trusted politicians anyway so no change here.

Then what do you think about Trump promoting the Covid vaccine? Does that make you lose trust in him?
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Rapier108 said:

There was a study some time ago, done in Europe IIRC, which showed that woman with low levels of Vitamin-D had a higher risk of having a child with autism.

The researchers said it would need to be repeated in other countries to see if the results were the same in order to verify it. Never saw anything to show it was ever followed up on.

Just like with some other neurological conditions, there is not a specific cause. It is a combination of factors that goes beyond genetics. It is why one identical twin can have something like MS and the other never does.

I'm no doctor, but I bet if a graph of the rate of autism was overlaying with a graph showing the age women are having kids, there would be a pretty good overlap. Women used to have kids in their mid/late teens and 20s (the mid-teens part refers to the 19th century and earlier when people married younger then they do today) but now many wait until their 30s and even 40s. Like anything else, the older we get, the more things degrade and I'd bet that includes eggs and sperm.

There is a lot of truth to this
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Not just you but others as well …

Why are you singling out women? Studies have shown a link between increased paternal age and autism.
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This announcement will lead leftists women to say f Trump and take triple doses. In 5 years there will be plenty of data.
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mernaggie12 said:

Not just you but others as well …

Why are you singling out women? Studies have shown a link between increased paternal age and autism.

Look at the last line. I mention men as well, but we don't do much expect provide half the genetic material. Women also carry the child, and I would imagine the older a woman is, the great the odds of something going awry specifically related to the pregnancy.
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Aggie1205 said:

coolerguy12 said:

Aggie1205 said:

ChrisTAMU said:

Sorry your whole community made asses of themselves and lost the trust of the public. It'll take decades to earn it back, justifiably so. Tyrant.

What should happen to politicians who suggested people take the covid vaccine?


Never trusted politicians anyway so no change here.

Then what do you think about Trump promoting the Covid vaccine? Does that make you lose trust in him?


Certainly. But Trump never mandated it. And if your argument is that I should trust doctors as much as I trust politicians then I guess I agree with you. I don't trust either of them when it comes to making decisions for my family.

Edit to add: before you ask, I don't trust the media, lawyers, or gas station hot dogs so you won't be able to get me with any of those either.
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docb said:

Rapier108 said:

There was a study some time ago, done in Europe IIRC, which showed that woman with low levels of Vitamin-D had a higher risk of having a child with autism.

The researchers said it would need to be repeated in other countries to see if the results were the same in order to verify it. Never saw anything to show it was ever followed up on.

Just like with some other neurological conditions, there is not a specific cause. It is a combination of factors that goes beyond genetics. It is why one identical twin can have something like MS and the other never does.

I'm no doctor, but I bet if a graph of the rate of autism was overlaying with a graph showing the age women are having kids, there would be a pretty good overlap. Women used to have kids in their mid/late teens and 20s (the mid-teens part refers to the 19th century and earlier when people married younger then they do today) but now many wait until their 30s and even 40s. Like anything else, the older we get, the more things degrade and I'd bet that includes eggs and sperm.

There is a lot of truth to this


Lots of studies proving this. Even more likely when both parents are above 30.
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score4OU said:

This announcement will lead leftists women to say f Trump and take triple doses. In 5 years there will be plenty of data.

Some of them would also be needing liver transplants.
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Acetaminophen is unusual in that it has probably the smallest range from an effective dose to a lethal dose of any medication that is being sold today.

So many other medications contain it as an active ingredient, and a person can easily consume a toxic level of acetaminophen without realizing it.

Sadly, in the United States, acetaminophen toxicity has replaced viral hepatitis as the most common cause of acute liver failure.
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I think you misread the comment I was responding to.
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VaultingChemist said:

Acetaminophen is unusual in that it has probably the smallest range from an effective dose to a lethal dose of any medication that is being sold.


If you're talking about OTC products, yes, acetaminophen has one of the narrower therapeutic indices.

The difference between effective and toxic for warfarin, lithium and several other prescription drugs is narrower still, however.

Serious acetaminophen toxicity is typically due to intentional OD or a complication of underlying liver disease from another cause.
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Before this announcement my wife and I did our own research and decided to avoid Tylenol for her pregnancy and after birth.

The best course of action is no meds if you can.
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Ok. But there are still reasons to treat fever in pregnant women. Acetaminophen is the only one, is relatively safe at recommended doses, and has not been linked to autism in any robust studies.
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Sure, life would be great if you never needed treatment but that's not practical.
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In acute ingestion, the window is not that narrow. Maximum recommended dose for a child is 80mg/kg and for an adult is 4g per day. Toxicity requires 150mg/kg for a child at 7.5+ for an adult. Twice the recommended dose.
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ChrisTAMU said:

Just shut up and take this experimental vaccine or lose your job. Also put this piece of cloth over your face it'll keep you healthy, I promise.

Don't forget about hand soap and seat belts. It's the devil's work!
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txwxman said:

ChrisTAMU said:

Just shut up and take this experimental vaccine or lose your job. Also put this piece of cloth over your face it'll keep you healthy, I promise.

Don't forget about hand soap and seat belts. It's the devil's work!


6 feet apart! It'll like totally keep you safe.
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KidDoc said:

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shack009 said:

I think he wanted your opinion and observations based on your experience as a doctor, and you went to Grok?

Vaccine skepticism isn't killing kids.

AI can tabulate data much faster than any human.

I could just say that vaccines work and I hate seeing patients left open to dangerous infectious disease due to parental anxiety disorder but then vax refusers would just roll their eyes and claim I'm being paid millions by pharma.

What are your thoughts on the CDC vaccine schedule for children?

I think it looks pretty solid and has been the same for 25 years (16 if you include HPV in the teen phase and PCV has been expanded a few times to cover more strains). I do think they will change HPV to one dose only as the world wide data strongly supports that. Hep B at birth is not needed unless mom's status is + or unknown. Hep B could easily be pushed off until teen/adult years but unfortunately all of the combo shots have Hep B in them so that would mean additional physical shots to achieve the same protection.



Thanks Doc,

Any issue with the stacked schedule where multiple vaccines are given during a single visit? Are these vaccines clinically tested to be stacked like this?
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docb said:

ChrisTAMU said:

Sorry your whole community made asses of themselves and lost the trust of the public. It'll take decades to earn it back, justifiably so. Tyrant.

Then don't take yourself or your kids to the doctor. I don't really care. Good luck getting your appendix out at home.


You should be exposed publicly for this.
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Also don't forget there is a list of foods pregnant women should avoid; deli meats, certain types of fish, sushi, soft cheeses, caffeine, alcohol, pre-made salads with meat, under cooked eggs, unpasturized dairy, etc.

Yet you see pregnant women consuming all of these things. Often knowing they shouldn't or thinking a little will be ok. I have known some that do regularly had kids with issues.

Making Tylenol the boogie man without very controlled studies is bad science. This feels more like when they said artificial sweetener causes cancer only to find out later that is all they feed the rats.
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Are any of those foods know to deplete glutathione?
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Do you think depleted glutathione from Tylenol ingestion is the sole cause of autism?
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To boost your body's natural glutathione levels, focus on consuming foods rich in its precursors and cofactors:

Sulfur-Rich Foods: Cruciferous vegetables (broccoli, Brussels sprouts, cabbage, cauliflower) and garlic are high in sulfur compounds needed for glutathione synthesis.

Vitamin C: Citrus fruits, bell peppers, strawberries, kiwi, and guava contain Vitamin C, which helps the body recycle and spare glutathione.

Selenium: Selenium is an essential trace mineral found in foods like poultry, fish, eggs, nuts (almonds), whole grains, and legumes, all of which support glutathione supply.

Leucine: Leucine is an amino acid found in whey protein, poultry, and dairy, which helps support glutathione production.

Other Foods: Eggs, especially the yolks, are a great source of cysteine.

I mean Tylenol could absolutely play a role, but how many pregnant women are preparing & eating vitamin rich food daily and bypassing the processed crap. Chick-fil-A is likely not teeming with glutathione. The baby is going to pull from Mom's available nutrients.
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shack009 said:

Dan Carlin said:

Rapier108 said:

Dan Carlin said:

PSA: there is no link between acetaminophen use in pregnancy and autism in children. Please listen to medical experts and not the Trump Administration when making health decisions.

Medical experts:
https://www.acog.org/clinical-information/physician-faqs/acetaminophen-in-pregnancy?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=acog2025-practice&fbclid=IwY2xjawM-y3pleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHmcrBF_pGmJrwTVYjGVAmEjOnBG5KqJCVbdFFqQ3mKaJbKy4BUX9pSIUJRY3_aem_mxiBpwo2Z2jL_BW4DVNqPg

Dude, we all know from your posting history that you would say this no matter what because Trump.



I'm fully in support of the Trump Administration's recent advocating for raising the SS retirement age.

Perhaps you could show me on the doll where the established medical community hurt you?


2020


It might be time for people to recognize the over correction.
ChrisTAMU
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The typical brain dead response I expect from a tyrannical leftist
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txwxman said:

ChrisTAMU said:

Just shut up and take this experimental vaccine or lose your job. Also put this piece of cloth over your face it'll keep you healthy, I promise.

Don't forget about hand soap and seat belts. It's the devil's work!

yeah, because that's the same.


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My few thoughts:

Totally believe that Autism is likely multi-factorial and a combination of genetics and environmental factorsand unfortunately we don't have great causal data or information on what a lot of those environmental factors could be. There is a poor association with Tylenol but the same totally could be said for maternal age, alcohol, dietary and other factors as well.


I tell people all the time that natural health is probably best. Diet, exercise, eating well are all better for your health than pills. The problem? Most people don't do the above. You tell 100 people to eat well and lose weight and less than 2 do. Pills serve a role. I wish less people needed them.

In the ER, we use a ton of Tylenol and Zofran in pregnant women. Both have proven safety, BUT both have shown a minuscule level of risk as well. Zofran is pregnancy safety risk B, not A and has been shown to have an association with a TINY risk in heart birth defects.

Why do we still use it? Because it's better than women dying from dehydration and electrolyte imbalance from "toughing it out" at home. If you can handle your headache and fever and nausea at home, that's fantastic. People generally don't come to the ER because they're doing great though. At that point in time the microscopic risk of the medicine is not nearly as high as the risk of not treating the disease process. Especially if you consider the risk of miscarriage or fetal harm that the disease could then possibly cause.
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Once again correlation does not equal causation. This is the problem with these types of "scientific" research.
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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

shack009 said:

Dan Carlin said:

Rapier108 said:

Dan Carlin said:

PSA: there is no link between acetaminophen use in pregnancy and autism in children. Please listen to medical experts and not the Trump Administration when making health decisions.

Medical experts:
https://www.acog.org/clinical-information/physician-faqs/acetaminophen-in-pregnancy?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=acog2025-practice&fbclid=IwY2xjawM-y3pleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHmcrBF_pGmJrwTVYjGVAmEjOnBG5KqJCVbdFFqQ3mKaJbKy4BUX9pSIUJRY3_aem_mxiBpwo2Z2jL_BW4DVNqPg

Dude, we all know from your posting history that you would say this no matter what because Trump.



I'm fully in support of the Trump Administration's recent advocating for raising the SS retirement age.

Perhaps you could show me on the doll where the established medical community hurt you?


2020


It might be time for people to recognize the over correction.

Once a worthless scum lies to me, he's a liar for life.
When an entire profession lies to me, they are liars for life.
When an entire profession lies to me in order to make a few more bucks and that lie results in millions of deaths, they are the lowest form of life on the planet, for life.

Thought I'd clear that up for you.
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Have people been held to account? I must have missed it.
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Old Army has gone to hell.
 
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