Please, let there be a shutdown

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Scruffy said:

Hearing long TSA lines due to shutdown

Lovely.

I'm traveling the the UK for some touring and presenting a paper (so, free plane ticket) in a week or so...

Overseas travel can already be a hassle so let's see how this helps out.
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On a plane now. No issues at IAH. Probably faster going through security than the last few times I've traveled.
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Science Denier said:

LMCane said:

Science Denier said:

1. They are very entertaining.
2. The "healthcare for illegals" blaring 24/7 would be epic
3. Let government go home. At least at home they can't **** anything up and they get paid anyway.

Question: Does the government save any money during a shutdown? Meals for employees, meetings, travel, etc? Seems like there may be a $0.65 savings at least somewhere.

But, I admit I'm selfish and these shutdowns provide some really good entertainment.

usually the shutdowns COST MORE MONEY

because they have to issue back payments so it is just a free paid vacation for the FEDS.

this time Trump is threatening to fire massive amounts of the bureaucrats- another reason this could be great.

Issuing back pay doesn't cost more than them getting a regular paycheck, right? Or, do they get some sort of interest on it?


yes, to shut down and then restart alot of these operations actually increases the total cost,

as well as giving full back pay.

keep in mind alot of the ""ESSENTIAL" employees who will still be working will now be paid overtime time and a half which also increases the cost.
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Not much of that matters compared to letting the Dems pass their poison pills the way they would in power. Hold the line.
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dvldog said:

"suing to block the threat of mass firings during the shutdown"???



They have no standing until some action is taken. The courts established the hell out of this in 2020…
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Scruffy said:

Hearing long TSA lines due to shutdown

They aren't furloughing TSA
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Hogties said:

On a plane now. No issues at IAH. Probably faster going through security than the last few times I've traveled.

Hopefully it stays this way!
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MouthBQ98 said:

dvldog said:

"suing to block the threat of mass firings during the shutdown"???



They have no standing until some action is taken. The courts established the hell out of this in 2020…

Won't matter. With how this always goes, will end up being heard by Boasberg and he'll grant a TRO. Probably had one written up weeks ago.
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Scruffy said:

Hearing long TSA lines due to shutdown

There can be long lines at TSA any day of the week + they aren't being furloughed, so this seems like fake news
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Scruffy said:

Hearing long TSA lines due to shutdown

Where are you hearing that from? Pretty sure TSA is working as normal.
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Hogties said:

If a shutdown gives Trump and OMB broadcast authority to fire federal employees and gut the deep state, why would the Republican senate leaders be anxious to keep scheduling votes?

Let it play out.


This is what is happening. And they are supposedly going to do a carousel of votes egging the Dems on to vote no over and over.

They only need a half dozen flips. Get the firings done and then a thorny poisonous olive branch can be offered to the crooked, traitorous libs.
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CanyonAg77 said:

Scruffy said:

Hearing long TSA lines due to shutdown

They aren't furloughing TSA

I'm hearing TSA lines are long due to it being Wednesday.

Tomorrow, they will be long because it's Thursday. Rinse, repeat.
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Sims said:

CanyonAg77 said:

Scruffy said:

Hearing long TSA lines due to shutdown

They aren't furloughing TSA

I'm hearing TSA lines are long due to it being Wednesday.

Tomorrow, they will be long because it's Thursday. Rinse, repeat.

How can they be long, given the high quality of TSA employees?
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Got a trip to Yellowstone soon, looks like parks are open, 3rd party hotels, concessions open, visitors centers closed, emergency services available.
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Sometimes we face big questions that have answers outside of our comprehension or grasp. It's at times like those that we have to look back on how far we've come, realize that the government wants best for us individually, and trust that they'll continue to make decisions to move us forward with strength, speed and precision.
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Sq1dvm said:

Got a trip to Yellowstone soon, looks like parks are open, 3rd party hotels, concessions open, visitors centers closed, emergency services available.


Also retroactively proves what putzes Obama and Biden were in closing them in 2013. It was unnecessary.

Trump should close govt stuff of the elite the Schumer types use.
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I live in NW Colorado in a rural town and all the BLM, Forest Service workers are working in the field today, local office looked open too.
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flown-the-coop said:

Hogties said:

If a shutdown gives Trump and OMB broadcast authority to fire federal employees and gut the deep state, why would the Republican senate leaders be anxious to keep scheduling votes?

Let it play out.


This is what is happening. And they are supposedly going to do a carousel of votes egging the Dems on to vote no over and over.

They only need a half dozen flips. Get the firings done and then a thorny poisonous olive branch can be offered to the crooked, traitorous libs.

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Can we please start these unreversible things now!!!??

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Hoyt Ag said:

I live in NW Colorado in a rural town and all the BLM, Forest Service workers are working in the field today, local office looked open too.

They know that there is still work to be done, and they know they will eventually get paid in full once a compromise is worked out. They probably decided just to keep working now instead of working overtime later.
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torrid said:

Hoyt Ag said:

I live in NW Colorado in a rural town and all the BLM, Forest Service workers are working in the field today, local office looked open too.

They know that there is still work to be done, and they know they will eventually get paid in full once a compromise is worked out. They probably decided just to keep working now instead of working overtime later.

Im well aware. Most are my friends. Just stating that they are working regardless of a shutdown.
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May not be irreversible, but at least it's something for now:

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just noting i was star # 6-7
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Document all of it. Draw up a full summary. Names, amount wasted, and for what. Bypass all the news stations and make sure its distributed to the public at large and accessible unredacted. Maybe a repeat or reversal will be made more difficult.
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LMCane said:

Science Denier said:

LMCane said:

Science Denier said:

1. They are very entertaining.
2. The "healthcare for illegals" blaring 24/7 would be epic
3. Let government go home. At least at home they can't **** anything up and they get paid anyway.

Question: Does the government save any money during a shutdown? Meals for employees, meetings, travel, etc? Seems like there may be a $0.65 savings at least somewhere.

But, I admit I'm selfish and these shutdowns provide some really good entertainment.

usually the shutdowns COST MORE MONEY

because they have to issue back payments so it is just a free paid vacation for the FEDS.

this time Trump is threatening to fire massive amounts of the bureaucrats- another reason this could be great.

Issuing back pay doesn't cost more than them getting a regular paycheck, right? Or, do they get some sort of interest on it?


yes, to shut down and then restart alot of these operations actually increases the total cost,

as well as giving full back pay.

keep in mind alot of the ""ESSENTIAL" employees who will still be working will now be paid overtime time and a half which also increases the cost.

US Customs is sure working at their regular pay, and the killer is that they don't get paid until it's over.
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
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"We hold all the cards"

Democrats

The cards

Who?mikejones!
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Let's see

Republicans hold the house
Republicans hold the executive
Republicans hold a majority of the senate
Republicans hold a majority of governorship
Republicans hold a majority of state houses
And, most people think, scotus is republican friendly.

What cards or leverage does chukie hold again?
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None. He thinks he holds all the cards when in reality he is running a clown show.
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Who?mikejones! said:

Let's see

Republicans hold the house
Republicans hold the executive
Republicans hold a majority of the senate
Republicans hold a majority of governorship
Republicans hold a majority of state houses
And, most people think, scotus is republican friendly.

What cards or leverage does chukie hold again?

Republicans don't have 60 votes in the Senate to break the filibuster; that is Chucky's only card.

Truly, they just need to end it and ram though everything right now. The DNC is already saying when they take power, the will end it on day 1, and then grant statehood to DC and Puerto Rico.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Who?mikejones! said:

Let's see

Republicans hold the house
Republicans hold the executive
Republicans hold a majority of the senate
Republicans hold a majority of governorship
Republicans hold a majority of state houses
And, most people think, scotus is republican friendly.

What cards or leverage does chukie hold again?

Chuckie holds the legacy media card, which was valuable at one time but is irrelevant now. He hasn't accepted it yet, probably never will.
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Rapier108 said:

Who?mikejones! said:

Let's see

Republicans hold the house
Republicans hold the executive
Republicans hold a majority of the senate
Republicans hold a majority of governorship
Republicans hold a majority of state houses
And, most people think, scotus is republican friendly.

What cards or leverage does chukie hold again?

Republicans don't have 60 votes in the Senate to break the filibuster; that is Chucky's only card.

Truly, they just need to end it and ram though everything right now. The DNC is already saying when they take power, the will end it on day 1, and then grant statehood to DC and Puerto Rico.

Trade it for Texas and Florida leaving along with any of the Gulf coast that wants to.
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titan said:

Sq1dvm said:

Got a trip to Yellowstone soon, looks like parks are open, 3rd party hotels, concessions open, visitors centers closed, emergency services available.


Also retroactively proves what putzes Obama and Biden were in closing them in 2013. It was unnecessary.

Trump should close govt stuff of the elite the Schumer types use.

The NP closures were retaliatory actions by Obama & Co. Most of the actual services are provided by third party companies that need the parks open to keep the cash coming in.
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LMCane said:

Science Denier said:

LMCane said:

Science Denier said:

1. They are very entertaining.
2. The "healthcare for illegals" blaring 24/7 would be epic
3. Let government go home. At least at home they can't **** anything up and they get paid anyway.

Question: Does the government save any money during a shutdown? Meals for employees, meetings, travel, etc? Seems like there may be a $0.65 savings at least somewhere.

But, I admit I'm selfish and these shutdowns provide some really good entertainment.

usually the shutdowns COST MORE MONEY

because they have to issue back payments so it is just a free paid vacation for the FEDS.

this time Trump is threatening to fire massive amounts of the bureaucrats- another reason this could be great.

Issuing back pay doesn't cost more than them getting a regular paycheck, right? Or, do they get some sort of interest on it?


yes, to shut down and then restart alot of these operations actually increases the total cost,

as well as giving full back pay.

keep in mind alot of the ""ESSENTIAL" employees who will still be working will now be paid overtime time and a half which also increases the cost.

My husband ( retired) was a federal employee. He was a pharmacist at a VA hospital. He was essential so never got any time off and was paid at his regular rate.
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I must say, the memes are hilarious:



The soon to be former Senate Minority Leader and Dimestore Obama...
 
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