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Very deserving for a guy that dragged the entire country, and every other auto company, into the world of EV.

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He deserves pretty severe punishment for that, actually. A giant sinkhole of R&D and federal tax breaks that resulted in a **** product only hobbyists could really appreciate. However, he has done other, good things to balance the EV crime out.

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Wasn't he worth 1T at some point? I could have sworn the lefties were all in a tizzy about it a few years back

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That was the incentive pay package Musk received from the board of Tesla if he reaches certain aggressive milestones with Tesla.

• Requirements:
  To receive the full payout, Musk must achieve several audacious operational goals, including:
  
  
  • Raising Tesla's market value to $8.5 trillion.
  • Deploying one million autonomous taxis.
  • Producing one million humanoid robots.
  • Achieving more than a 24-fold increase in Tesla's profit.

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Insane goals, insane payout. Curious to see what kind of progress they've made since that announcement.

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Since that announcement was made on Sept-5, Tesla stock is up almost 28% as of today. The S&P 500 is up 3% since that date.

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Pretty amazing considering the hit Tesla stock took during his DOGE days.

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That was awesome. I bought a chunk when it was down. Wish I bought more.

Also bought a Tesla. The car is amazing. Drives me to/from work each day. Keep checking the Tesla app for the release of FSD 14. (Fuill Service Driving)

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My experience too.

Was planning to test drive a Mustang GT. Stopped by the Tesla dealership first.
I was sold in 5 minutes of driving it.
Teslas are freaking amazing to drive.
Do yourself a favor, and test drive one next time you are in the market for a vehicle.

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Interesting. I just got my wife an Audi. It is amazing. Now I want to try a Tesla.

I just hate the look of Teslas. I am a traditionalist, I love the look of the 1920s cars for example. I believe 80s and onward car design has generally been bad.

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I did not expect to like the car as much as I did. They restyled the Model 3. I got the performance, and the only time I've experienced acceleration like that was on a motorcycle. It is stupid fast.

The ability to just plug it in at night in your garage really grows on you. I never have to visit a gas station. Already saved a ton on gas. I used a supercharger to try it out, and I could barely eat at a Panera bread before it was back up to 80% from 20%. I'm not going to use it for long range travel, but I think the range anxiety is overblown. I'd have no problem using it for that.

The over the air updates are cool. You just keep getting new features and upgrades. I also got 0% financing for 60 months, so I have that money in the stock market getting returns.

You also get addicted to FSD. FSD 14, I hope, will be a game changer.

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Pretty amazing considering the hit Tesla stock took during his DOGE days.

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That was awesome. I bought a chunk when it was down. Wish I bought more.

Also bought a Tesla. The car is amazing. Drives me to/from work each day. Keep checking the Tesla app for the release of FSD 14. (Fuill Service Driving)

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My experience too.

Was planning to test drive a Mustang GT. Stopped by the Tesla dealership first.
I was sold in 5 minutes of driving it.
Teslas are freaking amazing to drive.
Do yourself a favor, and test drive one next time you are in the market for a vehicle.

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My Roush Mustang was getting pretty old. I replaced it with a Model 3 performance and haven't looked back (where all the cars I left behind are). Driving is fun and as a techie it's cool to integrate it into my home automation system.

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No Spin Ag said:

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Very deserving for a guy that dragged the entire country, and every other auto company, into the world of EV.

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If you drive them "people will think you're gay"

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Your slow car/truck is gay

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Everyone talks about how fast they are, yet I'm always stuck behind them while driving, especially on the highway.

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Non ICE cars didn't really take off until Tesla.
Before Tesla, all the non-ice cars were ugly.

And yes, looks do matter.

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Teslas are some of the ugliest cars on the road.

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I think there's a far more important lesson than working for yourself so you can be obscenely wealthy.

How about doing something you're passionate about. How about wealth is important, but not the measuring stick to one's importance or value to society. How about just being a good person……..you know……..Christ like.

Seems to me the values we place in highest esteem are really more about greed and narcissism.

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I've done my childhood dream occupation and while I enjoyed it, if you are working for someone else it will be eventually be disappointing.

No earthly professional pursuit is as liberating as working for yourself and having FU money. I wish I knew that at an earlier age. Cool jobs are cool but freedom is king.

Here's a good video that talks about who the richest person is/was of all time taking inflation into account

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Urban Ag said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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Very deserving for a guy that dragged the entire country, and every other auto company, into the world of EV.

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What are you talking about?

Democrats attempted to force feed EV's to the country, and failed. Auto companies virtue signaled and went hard on EVs and are backing off.

Entire country? Please.

Tesla is one part of his overall portfolio and I still don't think most people understand what Tesla really is.

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Non ICE cars didn't really take off until Tesla.
Before Tesla, all the non-ice cars were ugly.

And yes, looks do matter.

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You basically made my point. Elon sold Tesla's, still does. It didn't "drag the entire country" to EV's. Tesla made a product that people want. The "EV" part was a component but not the overall product.

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TexAgs91 said:

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zag213004 said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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Very deserving for a guy that dragged the entire country, and every other auto company, into the world of EV.

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If you drive them "people will think you're gay"

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Your slow car/truck is gay

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Everyone talks about how fast they are, yet I'm always stuck behind them while driving, especially on the highway.

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We talk about acceleration in terms of Gs because you can feel it in your stomach.

I got .85 to .9 Gs. What do you have?

" Interesting. I just got my wife an Audi. It is amazing. Now I want to try a Tesla.

I just hate the look of Teslas. I am a traditionalist, I love the look of the 1920s cars for example. I believe 80s and onward car design has generally been bad."

Speaking of ugly design.

The design team of the Pontiac Aztek must have popped champagne corks when the CyberTruck came out. They must have been convinced they were going to their grave having designed the ugliest (yes……..a few others are worthy of mention) vehicle in American history.

Now they can relax knowing the Aztek can't hold a candle to the CyberTruck's ugliness.

Thats gonna jack up the "wealth equity" model.

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infinity ag said:

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GeorgiAg said:

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Pretty amazing considering the hit Tesla stock took during his DOGE days.

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That was awesome. I bought a chunk when it was down. Wish I bought more.

Also bought a Tesla. The car is amazing. Drives me to/from work each day. Keep checking the Tesla app for the release of FSD 14. (Fuill Service Driving)

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My experience too.

Was planning to test drive a Mustang GT. Stopped by the Tesla dealership first.
I was sold in 5 minutes of driving it.
Teslas are freaking amazing to drive.
Do yourself a favor, and test drive one next time you are in the market for a vehicle.

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Interesting. I just got my wife an Audi. It is amazing. Now I want to try a Tesla.

I just hate the look of Teslas. I am a traditionalist, I love the look of the 1920s cars for example. I believe 80s and onward car design has generally been bad.

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I did not expect to like the car as much as I did. They restyled the Model 3. I got the performance, and the only time I've experienced acceleration like that was on a motorcycle. It is stupid fast.

The ability to just plug it in at night in your garage really grows on you. I never have to visit a gas station. Already saved a ton on gas. I used a supercharger to try it out, and I could barely eat at a Panera bread before it was back up to 80% from 20%. I'm not going to use it for long range travel, but I think the range anxiety is overblown. I'd have no problem using it for that.

The over the air updates are cool. You just keep getting new features and upgrades. I also got 0% financing for 60 months, so I have that money in the stock market getting returns.

You also get addicted to FSD. FSD 14, I hope, will be a game changer.

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Hmm.
I am looking to replace my old BMW 328 from 2014 next year, I will check out a Tesla.

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I think there's a far more important lesson than working for yourself so you can be obscenely wealthy.

How about doing something you're passionate about. How about wealth is important, but not the measuring stick to one's importance or value to society. How about just being a good person……..you know……..Christ like.

Seems to me the values we place in highest esteem are really more about greed and narcissism.

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I've done my childhood dream occupation and while I enjoyed it, if you are working for someone else it will be eventually be disappointing.

No earthly professional pursuit is as liberating as working for yourself and having FU money. I wish I knew that at an earlier age. Cool jobs are cool but freedom is king.

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Listen to this man!

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Urban Ag said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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Very deserving for a guy that dragged the entire country, and every other auto company, into the world of EV.

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What are you talking about?

Democrats attempted to force feed EV's to the country, and failed. Auto companies virtue signaled and went hard on EVs and are backing off.

Entire country? Please.

Tesla is one part of his overall portfolio and I still don't think most people understand what Tesla really is.

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Non ICE cars didn't really take off until Tesla.
Before Tesla, all the non-ice cars were ugly.

And yes, looks do matter.

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You basically made my point. Elon sold Tesla's, still does. It didn't "drag the entire country" to EV's. Tesla made a product that people want. The "EV" part was a component but not the overall product.

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I don't understand, why do fake conservatives hate EVs? It seems to be the next step in car tech.

Or are they secretly scared the O&G industry will become obsolete so hide under some "we are conservatives.. we love oil" notion?

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GeorgiAg said:

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AlexNguyen said:

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Pretty amazing considering the hit Tesla stock took during his DOGE days.

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That was awesome. I bought a chunk when it was down. Wish I bought more.

Also bought a Tesla. The car is amazing. Drives me to/from work each day. Keep checking the Tesla app for the release of FSD 14. (Fuill Service Driving)

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My experience too.

Was planning to test drive a Mustang GT. Stopped by the Tesla dealership first.
I was sold in 5 minutes of driving it.
Teslas are freaking amazing to drive.
Do yourself a favor, and test drive one next time you are in the market for a vehicle.

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A coworker's husband has one of the first cybertrucks, both of his kids drive Tesla cars, and my coworker is looking at getting a Tesla S next month.

Once they drove Teslas they never looked at any other vehicles.

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I think there's a far more important lesson than working for yourself so you can be obscenely wealthy.

How about doing something you're passionate about. How about wealth is important, but not the measuring stick to one's importance or value to society. How about just being a good person……..you know……..Christ like.

Seems to me the values we place in highest esteem are really more about greed and narcissism.

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I've done my childhood dream occupation and while I enjoyed it, if you are working for someone else it will be eventually be disappointing.

No earthly professional pursuit is as liberating as working for yourself and having FU money. I wish I knew that at an earlier age. Cool jobs are cool but freedom is king.

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Keyboard warrioring!!!


:-D

That is correct.

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Urban Ag said:

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Urban Ag said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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Very deserving for a guy that dragged the entire country, and every other auto company, into the world of EV.

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What are you talking about?

Democrats attempted to force feed EV's to the country, and failed. Auto companies virtue signaled and went hard on EVs and are backing off.

Entire country? Please.

Tesla is one part of his overall portfolio and I still don't think most people understand what Tesla really is.

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Non ICE cars didn't really take off until Tesla.
Before Tesla, all the non-ice cars were ugly.

And yes, looks do matter.

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You basically made my point. Elon sold Tesla's, still does. It didn't "drag the entire country" to EV's. Tesla made a product that people want. The "EV" part was a component but not the overall product.

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I don't understand, why do fake conservatives hate EVs? It seems to be the next step in car tech.

Or are they secretly scared the O&G industry will become obsolete so hide under some "we are conservatives.. we love oil" notion?

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I guess I don't understand your question or assortations.

Who are the fake conservatives who hate EV's?

I think I speak for most conservatives when I offer this. I don't hate EV's at all, I just don't want one. It doesn't work for my lifestyle. I disagree vehemently with the govt subsidizing them. I know for a fact we don't have anywhere near the energy production or distribution capacity to support a mass shift to EV's, which is obviously problematic. AI and data centers are only compounding that reality, greatly. I also know that "green energy" is a crock of **** and EV's are not more environmentally friendly than combustion engine powered vehicles, overall.

And while I am not financially beholden to O&G and have never worked in the industry, I guess that I do love oil because oil is the life blood of the civilization we have built. It has generated more advances in standard of living than any other commodity. Pretty good stuff and we are nowhere close to replacing it unless we want to ride bikes everywhere and live in efficiency apartments with the thermostat set at 85 in the summer and 55 in the winter. I don't want that.

Don't know. Kind of like the look of them when see them. Looks military and purposeful.

Musk is now worth almost 700 BILLION!!



Now it makes perfect sense why he wants H1B slaves. They make him billion after billion after billion.
What is intriguing is why there are so many brainwashed lolpoors who fight for him instead of fighting for themselves. These people are mired in debt, sleeping in their cars but raise their voices for Musk's right to make money while Musk laughs while using million dollar bills to wipe his backside.

What next for Musk? Might be buy the US Presidency? Everything is for sale in America anyway.

Musk.

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No Spin Ag said:

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Very deserving for a guy that dragged the entire country, and every other auto company, into the world of EV.

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If you drive them "people will think you're gay"

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Your slow car/truck is gay

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Everyone talks about how fast they are, yet I'm always stuck behind them while driving, especially on the highway.

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Same. I always thought they were trying to conserve battery. You've got neck snapping speed at your fingertips but if you punch it too often, there's another half hour at the "fast" charging station in your immediate future.

That's why he's the GOAT

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Wasn't he worth 1T at some point? I could have sworn the lefties were all in a tizzy about it a few years back

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That was the compensation package he was offered. If he hit all the metrics, it would have been worth $1T. But, that is a number of years down the line.

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No Spin Ag said:

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Very deserving for a guy that dragged the entire country, and every other auto company, into the world of EV.

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He deserves pretty severe punishment for that, actually. A giant sinkhole of R&D and federal tax breaks that resulted in a **** product only hobbyists could really appreciate. However, he has done other, good things to balance the EV crime out.

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**** product only hobbyists can appreciate? Dude he's selling over a million a year and every person who buys one loves it. I bought a model 3 a few months ago at the end of the EV credit period and it is freakin awesome. Software package that's night and day better than competitors' interfaces, impossibly smooth driving (everybody who gets in comments on this), neck snapping acceleration (and I got the pedestrian all wheel drive, not the performance version), plenty of range, and a full self driving capability that, while not ready to chauffer your grandmother around, can easily handle 90% of your daily commute. It feels like a space ship compared to my old car.

The most important lesson, and the one the left can't grasp, is it's not a zero sum game. You don't have to hate Elon because he's rich. While you'll never be as rich as him most likely, we live in an amazing country where this is possible. So make your fortune, raise your family, be a good citizen and live an honorable life without government intervention and you'll be so much happier.

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Buck Turgidson said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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Very deserving for a guy that dragged the entire country, and every other auto company, into the world of EV.

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He deserves pretty severe punishment for that, actually. A giant sinkhole of R&D and federal tax breaks that resulted in a **** product only hobbyists could really appreciate. However, he has done other, good things to balance the EV crime out.

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**** product only hobbyists can appreciate? Dude he's selling over a million a year and every person who buys one loves it. I bought a model 3 a few months ago at the end of the EV credit period and it is freakin awesome. Software package that's night and day better than competitors' interfaces, impossibly smooth driving (everybody who gets in comments on this), neck snapping acceleration (and I got the pedestrian all wheel drive, not the performance version), plenty of range, and a full self driving capability that, while not ready to chauffer your grandmother around, can easily handle 90% of your daily commute. It feels like a space ship compared to my old car.

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Our Mazda CX5 is only 6 yrs old, but when we get rid of it we are very likely to go Tesla. FSD will be a game-changer for older Americans, and for those stuck on the roads with them.

Within a couple of years, for grandmother too. She won't even have to remember where she parked the car.

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zag213004 said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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Very deserving for a guy that dragged the entire country, and every other auto company, into the world of EV.

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If you drive them "people will think you're gay"

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Your slow car/truck is gay

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So was the moon landing. Is anything not gay?

The guy saved free speech in this country. I hope he hits $1 trillion!

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Buck Turgidson said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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Very deserving for a guy that dragged the entire country, and every other auto company, into the world of EV.

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He deserves pretty severe punishment for that, actually. A giant sinkhole of R&D and federal tax breaks that resulted in a **** product only hobbyists could really appreciate. However, he has done other, good things to balance the EV crime out.

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**** product only hobbyists can appreciate? Dude he's selling over a million a year and every person who buys one loves it. I bought a model 3 a few months ago at the end of the EV credit period and it is freakin awesome. Software package that's night and day better than competitors' interfaces, impossibly smooth driving (everybody who gets in comments on this), neck snapping acceleration (and I got the pedestrian all wheel drive, not the performance version), plenty of range, and a full self driving capability that, while not ready to chauffer your grandmother around, can easily handle 90% of your daily commute. It feels like a space ship compared to my old car.

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The FSD is why I will seriously consider one on my next purchase.

Saw this thread being bumped and thought it was in reference to take of SpaceX going public as soon as next year.

I think Mush owns upwards of 45% of SpaceX.

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Deputy Travis Junior said:

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Buck Turgidson said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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Very deserving for a guy that dragged the entire country, and every other auto company, into the world of EV.

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He deserves pretty severe punishment for that, actually. A giant sinkhole of R&D and federal tax breaks that resulted in a **** product only hobbyists could really appreciate. However, he has done other, good things to balance the EV crime out.

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**** product only hobbyists can appreciate? Dude he's selling over a million a year and every person who buys one loves it. I bought a model 3 a few months ago at the end of the EV credit period and it is freakin awesome. Software package that's night and day better than competitors' interfaces, impossibly smooth driving (everybody who gets in comments on this), neck snapping acceleration (and I got the pedestrian all wheel drive, not the performance version), plenty of range, and a full self driving capability that, while not ready to chauffer your grandmother around, can easily handle 90% of your daily commute. It feels like a space ship compared to my old car.

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The FSD is why I will seriously consider one on my next purchase.

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27 years of 5 minute daily commute for the win. Still never spent more than $20K on a car. Of course I own 5...

FSD was the reason I got a Tesla. I do a 30 mile commute each way a few times a week (far out suburbs), so I was hoping that FSD could take the edge off of that drive. For me, it has accomplished that and then some. It's not perfect, but after you get a feel for it and learn where it's strong and where it's weak, you can let it handle the grand majority of your boring commute while you give only light attention.

Musk is just 54.
He will hit 1T soon and by the time he is 60, he will hit 5T and by 70 he will be at 10T/15T.

While this is great, what stops him from misusing his wealth? He can pay off anyone and any organization. He will be the ruler of America and of the world.