Europe finally getting slapped into reality?

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nortex97
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It will also be interesting to see how Eastern Europe overall breaks, especially if the EU does in fact get toppled over the next 3-10 years. Some get it, some don't.
captkirk
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Diversity is strength and whatnot

nortex97
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There is just no saving the EU/EC imho.

"Oh no, someone on TikTok is saying we should leave the EU. Fine the platform please."
The EU Gulag part II:
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What is "misinformation"? It is any fact the managers do not want you to know. What is "hate speech"? It is any opinion that challenges the managers' agenda.

In Germany, we have already seen police raiding homes and making arrests for "hateful" online posts. A German was criminally investigated for calling a fat politician "fat." A German rape victim was given a harsher sentence than her rapist because she called him a "pig" in a private, encrypted message! And, just last month, the Finnish Supreme Court heard arguments in a case going back six years in which a former Finnish MP was prosecuted for "hate speech" for posting Bible verses! This is the Digital Gulag's Article 58-10. It is the criminalisation of undesirable thought, enforced by the state's monopoly on violence.

As a result, Europe now has the dubious distinction of being the world leader in speech-related arrests. Thousands of Europeans are jailed annually by the regime for tweets. And, with new weapons like Chat Control and the ProtectEU Roadmap coming online, that number will only grow. Speech crime is only one step removed from thought crime.

But the end of truth has two phases. First, you must cut off the supply of truthful information, which you do through censorship and criminalisation. And second, you must fill the resulting void with un-truth, or what is commonly called propaganda.

Just yesterday morning, I woke to news of the Commission's new European Democracy Shield, which, at first glance, appears indistinguishable from Orwell's Ministry of Truth. The Commission proposes to set up a new monitoring centre, the European Centre for Democratic Resilience a continent-wide censorship and propaganda machine of EU funded "fact checkers" who will decide what information is "safe" for European eyes.

More at the link. Bring our boys/gals home and withdraw from Nato.
pacecar02
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zephyr88 said:

ABATTBQ11 said:

zephyr88 said:

Teslag said:

The EU is what America would be if we kept the articles of confederation

Listening... care to elaborate?


The way the EU operates is similar to the US did under the Articles of Confederation. Sovereign member states subject to a weak central government with a unified currency. Lots of competing agendas and "Me first" domestic policies on member states that with against the greater good (like dependence on Russian O&G, insistence on intake of "asylum seekers", etc).

Thanks.... I get it now.

Kinda, just to add

The EU is a very strong regulatory body, which through commerce has manged to go far beyond trade

The problem they have now, the individual nation states voices have been so dilluted that any dissent is just washed out. They've sold thier sovereignty. There are no cross country parties or voting blocks to reign in the left. There is no real unity

This is why I would have been in favor of Brexit, dilution of sovereignty to foreign control. No thanks

You have a leftist body backed by 28 mostly leftist countries. I dont think it's corrective until you get 18 or 20 of the countries to go right. Or if more powerful members leave.


If it had been articles of confederation the central government wouldn't have had the power to make so many national decisions, imo

nortex97
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Yet another only very slightly veiled swipe at the US from a senior Euro leader, even as Iran is now crumbling from our arrest of Maduro:

Withdraw from NATO. Now.
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Detmersdislocatedshoulder
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falling?

fallen is more accurate.
nortex97
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Yes.

I can only chuckle and shake my head at this point. Great job Labour and Tories alike.
Squadron7
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NATO is a defense related welfare program for Europe paid for by the U.S.
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My how the turn tables.
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