White population collapse

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El Gallo Blanco
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The only legitimate reasons to not have kids imo: (a) you can't, or (b) you forecast a nightmarish world, completely unrecognizable from the one you were privileged enough to experience in the 80's and 90's and do not want to bring a child into some AI controlled dystopia.

We are trying to replicate the 80's and 90's style upringing as best we can for our little one, but I am genuinely worried that the future is very dark and bleak and there is nothing anyone can do about it, short of joining the Amish.
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Just make women in college illegal.

Fertility rates go down drastically when women go to college.
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I'll comment again that in Texas, before DEI and affirmative action, when a white person and a person with Mexican heritage got married and had kids, those kids were often considered to be white on a birth certificate. After affirmative action and race-based advantages (college admission, scholarship, employment), those same children would be marked as Hispanic.

We have created financial incentives for mixed-race parents to choose the most economically advantageous race/ethnicity for their children. And that is often, non-white
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tysker said:

I'll comment again that in Texas, before DEI and affirmative action, when a white person and a person with Mexican heritage got married and had kids, those kids were often considered to be white on a birth certificate. After affirmative action and race-based advantages (college admission, scholarship, employment), those same children would be marked as Hispanic.

We have created financial incentives for mixed-race parents to choose the most economically advantageous race/ethnicity for their children. And that is often, non-white

Yep.

Former coworker of mine is white; his wife is Hispanic.

All of their kids are as white as he is, one is blonde hair and blue eyes, but they're all considered Hispanic because of the perks of being anything but just "white."
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And the active technological and economic subsidizing of ever more mouths enabled by everyone BUT the expanding populations
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1) Almost all colleges in the US select heavily against women anyway, cause female high school students have been beating men in test scores and the rate they apply to college for more than a decade. Getting rid of gender weights in college admissions (as was done nationwide for racial/ethnic weights) will have the effect of greatly reducing the percentage of male high schoolers that get into their top-picks, and would likely shift even A&M more female dominated (A&M is currently about 51%/49% M/F, which is much more male-dominated than many universities in the US, who struggle to keep within 40/60% M/F ratios).

2) I'm a white-as-white-bread guy who married a beautiful woman, who herself is a mixture of three different ethnicities, including Polynesian, and most people assume she is not-white. Our offspring vary. I am sure at some point a descendant of mine might not mark themselves as white, but there will probably be descendants of ours who classify themselves as white. Racial classification is a human construction, and has no connection to genetics, cause it's just one dimension of phenotype. This is nothing to get worried about.
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No Spin Ag said:

This person had an interesting reply:

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These numbers are real but the interpretation is completely off.

Low birth rates in Europe aren't the result of replacement, mixing, or some secret agenda.

They're the result of Europeans themselves choosing fewer children because of:
high cost of living
late marriage
economic pressure
dual-income households
urbanization
career prioritization
social systems designed around individualism

That's demography, not destruction.

Meanwhile, high fertility countries are simply doing what every population has done in history when they're young: grow.

Human groups have expanded, collapsed, migrated, blended, and reshaped one another for 300,000 years.

There has NEVER been a permanent, isolated 'founding population.'
Every major civilization is the product of waves of migration and mixing.

Europe itself?
Celts Romans Goths Moors Vikings Slavs Normans Turks
There is no single 'original population.'
There never was.

And here's the key scientific point:

Demographic change does NOT erase people.
It creates new variations of people.

Skin tones shift. Languages shift. Cultures evolve.
That's exactly how every modern population was formed.

Calling this 'the end of the West' assumes that culture is static and biological but culture is learned, transmitted, and constantly reinvented.

And fertility collapse?

It's not racial.
It's economic.

South Korea, Japan, China all majority Asian have fertility LOWER than Europe.

By your logic, they should also be considered 'disappearing,' but we never frame it that way.

Why?
Because this isn't about race.
It's about modernity.

Migration isn't erasure.

It's the oldest human behavior on the planet.

Humans left Africa in multiple waves.
Humans mixed with Neanderthals.
Humans mixed across continents long before borders existed.

This moment in history is not an anomaly it's a continuation of what humans have always done.

Fear doesn't come from the numbers.

Fear comes from the belief that identity is fragile.

But identities evolve.
Cultures adapt.
People blend.
Humanity continues.

This isn't the 'end of the old world.'
It's the beginning of the next one just like every era before it.





Not buying this. Immigrants for the most part are not marrying into biracial relationships in mass, making these "new racial groups" by mixing. How many Somalis and Indians do you see marrying into older American populations? Not enough for me to take this guy seriously. They are creating a Balkanized society. They are all moving here, marrying the same people they would marry in their native countries and then they vote for people who look like them by and large.

The guy who wrote that this is just the natural way things have happened over centuries is a useful idiot.
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samurai_science said:

No Spin Ag said:

Fightin_Aggie said:

BBRex said:

I'm more worried about Western Civilization collapse.


Same thing


Western civilization will still exist, it'll just look different than it does today. That's no different than it looking different than it did 150 years ago. We're still here, we're just different.

It wont be based on Christianity, literature, science, art, and freedoms. Islamic counties for instance do not translate many books into Arabic or other Islamic languages. Much will be lost

Isn't there a stat to the effect of the total number of books translated into Arabic during the 1,000 years since the age of Caliph Al-Ma'moun [a ninth-century Arab ruler who was a patron of cultural interaction between Arab, Persian, and Greek scholars] to this day is less than those translated in Spain in one year?

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doubledog said:

So when whites become the minority, what will happen to DEI?


Whites will never get DEI, majority or not.
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Don't forget the threat of going to prison if the woman reneges consent the next day.
JWinTX
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Quite honestly, losing the Western Culture we knew for so long is going to be well-earned and well-deserved.

The Western culture turned its back on God, went away from marriage/family, became very career-oriented, which is another way of saying materialistic and selfish, then opened the door to Pandora's box by allowing all things deviantly sexual to be pervasive.

We deserve everything that will happen. We ran up debt for stupidity and greed, as well as power. We lowered education standards and entertainment standards to the LCD. Propaganda is "news".

When the Muslims take over Europe, they will have won the Crusades 2.0. They will overpopulate that region so much that Sharia Law will be in place in parts of that continent. Ironically, Russia will probably be the biggest enemy to that mindset, as it's gone back to its long Christian roots that had been abandoned and crushed under the Soviet Union leadership. But they're not Western, like Europe, Canada, the US, and Australia. And liberalism that has metastasized into leftism has created laziness, just as it always does until the hardass commies come in, which in this case will be the Islamists in Europe. In the US and Australia, I suspect we will slide into looking more like Western Europe of the last few decades, as we are behind them in the degradation of the Western society we have known. But I expect Western and Southern Europe to combine into one big Middle East by the end of the century. Russia and Poland will be where the East begins. And China will probably eventually absorb Japan and Korea as we fade off into the history books. Australia will be a huge fight for the Muslims/Commies to fight over, but the US and Canada will just watch and do the current European messaging of just screaming that it's not fair and do nothing else. India will also be an interesting watch--will they stick to their culture as they continue to grow an educated populace and clean up their society, both intrinsically and explicitly.

But in the end, the Western culture we have known since the end of WW 2 will be officially done without a single bullet being fired, but by a far more insidious enemy--laziness taught from societal and cultural rot, all inspired from Satanic roots.
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Video is 15-20yo and tracking according to the predictive calculations of demise. Big Mexican families gonna save North America. Maybe.

infinity ag
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GeorgiAg said:

The current economic situation for the middle class disincentivizes having kids. Unless you fix that, the population will continue to decrease and the pressure to maintain population base via immigration will increase.


The solution is always to import more Muslims in to make up.

They know how to make kids, they never send their girls to school anyway.
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JWinTX said:

Quite honestly, losing the Western Culture we knew for so long is going to be well-earned and well-deserved.

The Western culture turned its back on God, went away from marriage/family, became very career-oriented, which is another way of saying materialistic and selfish, then opened the door to Pandora's box by allowing all things deviantly sexual to be pervasive.

We deserve everything that will happen. We ran up debt for stupidity and greed, as well as power. We lowered education standards and entertainment standards to the LCD. Propaganda is "news".




Nothing to do with God.

It is due to greed and stupidity. Plain and simple. And lack of common sense and foresight.
It is because of me me and more me. Not us.
Most people care only about themselves, not their kids of future grandkids. Most other cultures do.

It's funny when some here claim to have a superior culture, that their IQ is higher than some Asian people, etc. What good will that do when Muslims impose Shariah on us??
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texagbeliever said:

No Spin Ag said:

This person had an interesting reply:

Quote:


These numbers are real but the interpretation is completely off.

Low birth rates in Europe aren't the result of replacement, mixing, or some secret agenda.

They're the result of Europeans themselves choosing fewer children because of:
high cost of living
late marriage
economic pressure
dual-income households
urbanization
career prioritization
social systems designed around individualism

That's demography, not destruction.

Meanwhile, high fertility countries are simply doing what every population has done in history when they're young: grow.

Human groups have expanded, collapsed, migrated, blended, and reshaped one another for 300,000 years.

There has NEVER been a permanent, isolated 'founding population.'
Every major civilization is the product of waves of migration and mixing.

Europe itself?
Celts Romans Goths Moors Vikings Slavs Normans Turks
There is no single 'original population.'
There never was.

And here's the key scientific point:

Demographic change does NOT erase people.
It creates new variations of people.

Skin tones shift. Languages shift. Cultures evolve.
That's exactly how every modern population was formed.

Calling this 'the end of the West' assumes that culture is static and biological but culture is learned, transmitted, and constantly reinvented.

And fertility collapse?

It's not racial.
It's economic.

South Korea, Japan, China all majority Asian have fertility LOWER than Europe.

By your logic, they should also be considered 'disappearing,' but we never frame it that way.

Why?
Because this isn't about race.
It's about modernity.

Migration isn't erasure.

It's the oldest human behavior on the planet.

Humans left Africa in multiple waves.
Humans mixed with Neanderthals.
Humans mixed across continents long before borders existed.

This moment in history is not an anomaly it's a continuation of what humans have always done.

Fear doesn't come from the numbers.

Fear comes from the belief that identity is fragile.

But identities evolve.
Cultures adapt.
People blend.
Humanity continues.

This isn't the 'end of the old world.'
It's the beginning of the next one just like every era before it.




Cost of living is too high for kids. Checks countries with highest birth rates... all of those countries are comparatively far poorer then western countries. Look within the USA which groups are having the most kids; hint it isnt the wealthy.

These two statements are in direct conflict with one another.

Which is it - cost of living is too high, or are the wealthy just not reproducing as much?

Honestly the "cost of living" argument doesn't hold that much water with me. It isn't a cost of living issue - it's a need to spend and the ability to spend 24/7 issue. Probably the single biggest difference between our generation now and our parents generation (for me anyway, I'm nearly 50 now so my growing up was in the 70's, 80's and 90's) is that my parents did not have the ability to spend money like I do today.
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TexasRebel said:

Don't forget the threat of going to prison if the woman reneges consent the next day.


gynocentric societies never survive. America has feminized itself into 'Bolivian.
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No Spin Ag said:

This person had an interesting reply:

Quote:


These numbers are real but the interpretation is completely off.

Low birth rates in Europe aren't the result of replacement, mixing, or some secret agenda.

They're the result of Europeans themselves choosing fewer children because of:
high cost of living
late marriage
economic pressure
dual-income households
urbanization
career prioritization
social systems designed around individualism

That's demography, not destruction.

Meanwhile, high fertility countries are simply doing what every population has done in history when they're young: grow.

Human groups have expanded, collapsed, migrated, blended, and reshaped one another for 300,000 years.

There has NEVER been a permanent, isolated 'founding population.'
Every major civilization is the product of waves of migration and mixing.

Europe itself?
Celts Romans Goths Moors Vikings Slavs Normans Turks
There is no single 'original population.'
There never was.

And here's the key scientific point:

Demographic change does NOT erase people.
It creates new variations of people.

Skin tones shift. Languages shift. Cultures evolve.
That's exactly how every modern population was formed.

Calling this 'the end of the West' assumes that culture is static and biological but culture is learned, transmitted, and constantly reinvented.

And fertility collapse?

It's not racial.
It's economic.

South Korea, Japan, China all majority Asian have fertility LOWER than Europe.

By your logic, they should also be considered 'disappearing,' but we never frame it that way.

Why?
Because this isn't about race.
It's about modernity.

Migration isn't erasure.

It's the oldest human behavior on the planet.

Humans left Africa in multiple waves.
Humans mixed with Neanderthals.
Humans mixed across continents long before borders existed.

This moment in history is not an anomaly it's a continuation of what humans have always done.

Fear doesn't come from the numbers.

Fear comes from the belief that identity is fragile.

But identities evolve.
Cultures adapt.
People blend.
Humanity continues.

This isn't the 'end of the old world.'
It's the beginning of the next one just like every era before it.




While this is factually correct, the changes this guy is talking about all happened over centuries or even millenia or as a result of major catastrophic world events (disease mostly, but in some cases war or conquered lands - Gengis Kahn for example).

What we are seeing now is different, happening over a much shorter time frame and socially engineered versus natural organic evolution.
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TKEAg04 said:

infinity ag said:

This is what happens when you give women undeserved benefits of easy college admits, preference in jobs, easy promotions. This has happened for decades and still does.

Women then lose interest in being wives and moms and raising families. They also lose respect for men because they think "I got into Harvard, why can't he? He is unworthy of me". Women always marry up.

Women prefer to go to work and be corporate slaves than marry and raise kids (which now seem dull and boring).

I see this issue even in my own family. It is everywhere and spreading even into the 3rd world.

Western civilization is in deep trouble because people have become selfish and women more so. No one wants to talk about it because it gets them ostracized, canceled or they lose elections.

I have a sister who is exactly like this. MIT graduate and extremely smart. Also will not go near any man without a MD or PhD after his name and has essentially removed herself from the pool as she is now in her mid to late 30's without any type of potential suitor.


Mid to late 30s means she is at the end of her chances. Men like younger women. Men don't care about a woman's job titles or her salary. Women just don't get this. Even my wife doesn't and I explain it to her over and over again. I tell her I care only how hot she is, not her title or her salary. Half in jest of course to hit home the point. But it is useless. Women think men think just like they do.

Your sister will soon sadly devolve into cursing men, wondering "where have all the good ones gone?", and "they are intimidated by strong educated women".

Never will a woman stop to think if she was making herself attractive to a mate or not.
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infinity ag said:

GeorgiAg said:

The current economic situation for the middle class disincentivizes having kids. Unless you fix that, the population will continue to decrease and the pressure to maintain population base via immigration will increase.


The solution is always to import more Muslims in to make up.

They know how to make kids, they never send their girls to school anyway.

It might work for those issue but you have to address this regressive fact posted above:

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3582527/replies/71456198

A reformed and at least mentally looking upward variety such as the Ottomans were headed toward, and so was the pre-late 70's foreign policy Mideast, might not regress civilization.

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Birth rates around the world are collapsing, it isn't really a white people thing.
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infinity ag said:

JWinTX said:

Quite honestly, losing the Western Culture we knew for so long is going to be well-earned and well-deserved.

The Western culture turned its back on God, went away from marriage/family, became very career-oriented, which is another way of saying materialistic and selfish, then opened the door to Pandora's box by allowing all things deviantly sexual to be pervasive.

We deserve everything that will happen. We ran up debt for stupidity and greed, as well as power. We lowered education standards and entertainment standards to the LCD. Propaganda is "news".




Nothing to do with God.

It is due to greed and stupidity. Plain and simple. And lack of common sense and foresight.
It is because of me me and more me. Not us.
Most people care only about themselves, not their kids of future grandkids. Most other cultures do.

It's funny when some here claim to have a superior culture, that their IQ is higher than some Asian people, etc. What good will that do when Muslims impose Shariah on us??


White Christian Conservatives significantly outbreed secular/liberal whites. There is no debating this. So, the belief in God and prioritization of values inline with judeo-Christian values does at least seem to play SOME role imo.

You're a first gen immigrant right? To be honest, this is kind of the problem I have with so many newcomers in this country. These types of statements. People come from completely foreign lands...vastly inferior places that are night and day different, to a place founded on Judeo-Christian principles and values...thousands of years old in the west...and then just throw all of that stuff out the window because you are here to escape your hellhole and make money and enjoy all of the benefits that our culture, again, founded heavily in Judeo-Christian principles, offers.

The nerve so many people have. I cannot imagine fleeing to Korea, or India, and having the nerve to tell those people how they should run their country. And if my children, first gen Koreans in that scenario, even did that, I would be ashamed and lecture the sh** out of them. White western nations are literally the only places where migrants can flock to and then start lecturing people on what they are doing wrong, or how to run things. And this makes us weak to you...but if we say anything, we are "racist" or "mean".

The fatigue is building...nonstop.
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We have made raising children too difficult. It used to be that the first ~5 years required constant involvement, then required less involvement as your child grew older/became more independent. Now you have to be constantly preoccupied with your child for almost two full decades. A few reasons:

Constant supervision: It used to be normal for kids to go to and from school, a friends house, etc on their own. As they got older, it was acceptable to not know where they were up to the point where there were PSAs at 10pm asking "Do you know where your children are?" This is now considered terrible parenting, and may result in CPS getting involved.

Education Management: It used to be that as a parent you were expected to sign off on your child's progress report, which arrived at 1-2 month intervals. Schools now expect parents to check apps, portals, emails, and assignments daily. Beyond what the school requires you to do, parents feel they must stay involved to make sure curriculum, school culture, and influences align with the values they are trying to instill in their children.

Social media/internet: This is a double-edged sword. You don't want your child on social media and all the problems that come with it, but you also don't want to socially ostracize them from all their peers who use that as their primary form of communication outside of school. If you allow it, you have to constantly monitor their activities and have concerns about online bullying, grooming from predators, and algorithmic manipulation.

Lack of Community Support: It used to take a village to raise a child. Now members of the village are afraid to even speak with a child that is not theirs lest they enrage the parent. This imho is the reason that poor people are willing to have more children, as people from poorer socioeconomic backgrounds are more likely to be close to, if not living with, other family members that can help raise the child, while more successful people may not even live in the same state as their parents anymore, much less the rest of their family.

Economic Pressure: With the rising cost of living, many more couples feel the need to have both working full-time in order to make ends meet. Combined with the lack of community support above, many couples who don't feel they can adequately provide for a child elect not to have them.

This post is already too long, but there are many more examples. This leads to people who are anxious about raising a child "properly" electing to have fewer or not having them at all, while people who could give a **** about how they raise their kids continue to have them in abundance.
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I didn't want kids for a long time so we waited until the last minute. Then we had three in 2 years and I often wish we had started sooner so we could have one or two more. At least we replaced ourselves plus one.

I also think a big part of the problem is a society that teaches women that they should want to be men instead. Everything about our current social and economic incentives leads to a complete breakdown in reproduction. Also, we need to put some serious effort into diagnosing and correcting the ever declining testosterone levels and sperm counts among men. That will ultimately endanger the whole species if left unchecked.
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My wife and I provided 4 and they'll likely have 3-4 each if so blessed.

Doing our part in DFW.
Gig'Em and God Bless,

JB'91
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Buck Turgidson said:

I didn't want kids for a long time so we waited until the last minute. Then we had three in 2 years and I often wish we had started sooner so we could have one or two more. At least we replaced ourselves plus one.

I also think a big part of the problem is a society that teaches women that they should want to be men instead. Everything about our current social and economic incentives leads to a complete breakdown in reproduction. Also, we need to put some serious effort into diagnosing and correcting the ever declining testosterone levels and sperm counts among men. That will ultimately endanger the whole species if left unchecked.

Tried for many years and were basically told my wife couldn't so we gave up and just decided to be the best aunt/uncle we could be. Then we conceived during the height of the pandemic (miraculously imo), when I was 39 and wife was 37.

I often have an inherent sense of regret for starting so late. I'll be in my upper 50's when she graduates High School. But then have to remind myself that had we conceived 1yr, 3yrs, 8yrs earlier, we would have never met the incredibly amazing daughter that we have now, who we are absolutely head over heels for. Tens of millions of sperm and I can't imagine it having been a different person at this point.

Does suck a little though, because the plan was always 3-4 children when we were younger, but we will take it!
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infinity ag said:

JWinTX said:

Quite honestly, losing the Western Culture we knew for so long is going to be well-earned and well-deserved.

The Western culture turned its back on God, went away from marriage/family, became very career-oriented, which is another way of saying materialistic and selfish, then opened the door to Pandora's box by allowing all things deviantly sexual to be pervasive.

We deserve everything that will happen. We ran up debt for stupidity and greed, as well as power. We lowered education standards and entertainment standards to the LCD. Propaganda is "news".




Nothing to do with God.

It is due to greed and stupidity. Plain and simple. And lack of common sense and foresight.
It is because of me me and more me. Not us.
Most people care only about themselves, not their kids of future grandkids. Most other cultures do.

It's funny when some here claim to have a superior culture, that their IQ is higher than some Asian people, etc. What good will that do when Muslims impose Shariah on us??


A secondary cause is lack of accountability. The disappearance of the torches and pitchforks consequences for very bad conduct and policies in office. Our political class has become almost immune to any results and is free to run the nation into the ground. Same is even more true in Europe. UK's governance in regard to Islamicization enabling absolutely rates the driven out of office by a mob variety.
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747Ag said:

We're doing our part... catching up to Dad-o-Lot in June.

Ten?
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GeorgiAg said:

I volunteer to take on a Russian, Czech, Ukrainian harem to address this situation.

Didn't name (european) Georgia, username does not check out.
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itsyourboypookie said:

If high cost of living is the reason people don't breed why are poor people the top breeders?

Look at the average poor person - do they strike you as being able to make ANY good decisions in their life?

Sure, some do - but as a group? No.
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texagbeliever said:

No Spin Ag said:

This person had an interesting reply:

Quote:


These numbers are real but the interpretation is completely off.

Low birth rates in Europe aren't the result of replacement, mixing, or some secret agenda.

They're the result of Europeans themselves choosing fewer children because of:
high cost of living
late marriage
economic pressure
dual-income households
urbanization
career prioritization
social systems designed around individualism

That's demography, not destruction.

Meanwhile, high fertility countries are simply doing what every population has done in history when they're young: grow.

Human groups have expanded, collapsed, migrated, blended, and reshaped one another for 300,000 years.

There has NEVER been a permanent, isolated 'founding population.'
Every major civilization is the product of waves of migration and mixing.

Europe itself?
Celts Romans Goths Moors Vikings Slavs Normans Turks
There is no single 'original population.'
There never was.

And here's the key scientific point:

Demographic change does NOT erase people.
It creates new variations of people.

Skin tones shift. Languages shift. Cultures evolve.
That's exactly how every modern population was formed.

Calling this 'the end of the West' assumes that culture is static and biological but culture is learned, transmitted, and constantly reinvented.

And fertility collapse?

It's not racial.
It's economic.

South Korea, Japan, China all majority Asian have fertility LOWER than Europe.

By your logic, they should also be considered 'disappearing,' but we never frame it that way.

Why?
Because this isn't about race.
It's about modernity.

Migration isn't erasure.

It's the oldest human behavior on the planet.

Humans left Africa in multiple waves.
Humans mixed with Neanderthals.
Humans mixed across continents long before borders existed.

This moment in history is not an anomaly it's a continuation of what humans have always done.

Fear doesn't come from the numbers.

Fear comes from the belief that identity is fragile.

But identities evolve.
Cultures adapt.
People blend.
Humanity continues.

This isn't the 'end of the old world.'
It's the beginning of the next one just like every era before it.




Cost of living is too high for kids. Checks countries with highest birth rates... all of those countries are comparatively far poorer then western countries. Look within the USA which groups are having the most kids; hint it isnt the wealthy.

I think it correlates better with IQ than wealth...Which IS a problem.

Idiocracy may, unfortunately, be thing...
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samurai_science said:

No Spin Ag said:

Fightin_Aggie said:

BBRex said:

I'm more worried about Western Civilization collapse.


Same thing


Western civilization will still exist, it'll just look different than it does today. That's no different than it looking different than it did 150 years ago. We're still here, we're just different.

It wont be based on Christianity, literature, science, art, and freedoms. Islamic counties for instance do not translate many books into Arabic or other Islamic languages. Much will be lost


I said this in another thread yesterday but we will have the Dark Ages 2.0. Fairly inevitable.
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Ag with kids said:

747Ag said:

We're doing our part... catching up to Dad-o-Lot in June.

Ten?

Yes.
javajaws
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Also, its not that the cost is too high (for those that COULD afford it) - its that people like their affluent lifestyles. Having children, while wonderful, is also a burden. And most affluent people don't like burdens.

Selfish? To an extent.
Short sighted? For some.

You can point the blame on women's vanity as well - they don't want the mom bod.

But many have also brainwashed themselves into thinking they are doing the world a service by not procreating.

There are many reasons for this trend, and none of them are really directly related to race.
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Our nation is permanently screwed unless we can reverse this and not allow Whites to become minorities in our own lands.
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We have kids and one is in college and other in HS and they are the best things we did. No job or company or money or car I had ever comes close. My younger one will be in college soon and I find that hard to deal with. I have put my own career on pause so I can spend time with her, drive her to school and back, etc etc. Once she's gone, she's gone and will only visit like a guest.

So I wonder how some folks actively don't want to have children. Some people have problems for medical reasons and that is different. When women prefer careers to children, or complain that kids "take them backwards in their careers" and hate on their kids for making them lose a promotion or two, that is very sad. Unfortunately this epidemic has spread and many women are openly like this. All one has to do is look at LinkedIn.

My view is giving extra push to women has caused all of this. Many women in high places today did not get there through fair competition. The downsides are you don't have the best person in the job, and you cause social impacts of them preferring money and fame over family. Then they teach their daughters to be even more like that.
 
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