Trump pardons Henry Cuellar

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flown-the-coop
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The conveyor is moot.


ETA you should have to get the answer to that debate correct in order to vote.

Would clear things up in one election.
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flown-the-coop said:

The conveyor is moot.


ETA you should have to get the answer to that debate correct in order to vote.

Would clear things up in one election.

Ooooh, so now we're assuming the conveyor can't speak!? Sounds kind of racist, to me!!!!1



;-)


And, yes, I agree...voting is too easy and available to morons.
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ABATTBQ11 said:

flown-the-coop said:

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flown-the-coop said:

Guy was indicted and though this guy certainly appears to be a shady cat I think there is some debate on whether what he did actually broke the law.

I vaguely recall the scandal but not the politics involved. Why not have DOJ just drop the case? Who knows. But if he was indicted in June of 2025 it's a Biden DOJ case from the start.

Trump seems to be in a pardoning mood. If I was Pelosi, Comey, Biden family, etc I would be seeking one before Trump gets stingy. Lots of crooks out there on the left that need to meet justice.


There is no debate that what he did broke the law. He unquestionably engaged in bid rigging and got caught because he promised a competitor a piece of the pie and then failed to deliver thinking that they would not turn on him because they were just as guilty.

When was he convicted? I only read indicted.


Just because you haven't been convicted doesn't mean you haven't broken the law.

Damn...

What did YOU get away with?
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Trump, a guy that was railroaded by frivolous and ridiculous lawfare, making up crimes and removing statutes of limitations (IIRC) pardoned a guy that may have been railroaded as well.

Eleventy-threeve D chess.
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I'm Gipper
flown-the-coop
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But do people still vote for him?

If anything, him running may be better than a strong D. His name recognition now works against him.

And will the DNC still send him money? I know they lack any morals, but it would still sting to fund someone you out in jail and Trump pardoned.

Who is the R candidate? (I know filings may not even have happened, much less than primary a curious if anyone onows the field yet).

Trump does get it wrong sometimes. Not sure of any strategy here.
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flown-the-coop said:

Trump does get it wrong sometimes. Not sure of any strategy here.

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Cuellar likely would have won even under indictment. He got 0 support from the national Dem party for the past election cycles and in the primary the Dems went WFO against him, like majorly outspent him and had tons of advertising. They ran him down terribly.

His district is in deep STX, where we don't tolerate corruption, we demand it. After what is taking place locally with all the ICE deals: raidinf job sites, fields, etc and the Feds putting in exit controls at the border I predict that no Republican will win again in this area for a long, long time.

South Texas voted for Trump because they wanted things to go back to like they were and for the US to stop letting in thousands of Haitians, Africans, Cubans, etc. They didn't vote for Trump for him to pursue long time Mexican dry wall and framing crews nor to spook shoppers from Mexico and make it more complicatedto cross the border than it already is.

All politics are local, ya'll watchale what happens in the upcoming elections. I hope I am wrong, but don't think I am.
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RGV AG said:

Cuellar likely would have won even under indictment. He got 0 support from the national Dem party for the past election cycles and in the primary the Dems went WFO against him, like majorly outspent him and had tons of advertising. They ran him down terribly.

His district is in deep STX, where we don't tolerate corruption, we demand it. After what is taking place locally with all the ICE deals: raidinf job sites, fields, etc and the Feds putting in exit controls at the border I predict that no Republican will win again in this area for a long, long time.

South Texas voted for Trump because they wanted things to go back to like they were and for the US to stop letting in thousands of Haitians, Africans, Cubans, etc. They didn't vote for Trump for him to pursue long time Mexican dry wall and framing crews nor to spook shoppers from Mexico and make it more complicatedto cross the border than it already is.

All politics are local, ya'll watchale what happens in the upcoming elections. I hope I am wrong, but don't think I am.
This isn't accurate. He's gotten loads of support from the national dem party. The Bernie wing of the party spent a lot of money against him in the primary, but the establishment democrats saved him.

https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/henry-cuellar-democrat-endorsements/
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Messaging. I had a framer in who had a long time guy picked up (this has been months ago). He sort of shrugged his shoulders and said he didn't like it, but guy should have had his papers in order.

These guys really need to wake up about who will work with them better. You want M/WBE guys hiring cat eating Haitians to hang the rock or Mexican familias looking for a better life. Because a vote for D is a vote for non-Hispanics to invade our Country and their jobs.
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Mark it down, ftc does be critical of the Trump.

If you find me defending Trump on things that say WTF? I am almost assuredly just quieting the TDS crowd.

You are way too libertard for me, but I respect your position and your BigRobtopia you desire.

But at some point, we have to win erections., And I will never go flaccid when it comes to winning erections.
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flown-the-coop said:

Mark it down, ftc does be critical of the Trump.

If you find me defending Trump on things that say WTF? I am almost assuredly just quieting the TDS crowd.

You are way too libertard for me, but I respect your position and your BigRobtopia you desire.

But at some point, we have to win erections., And I will never go flaccid when it comes to winning erections.

Dammit...

It looks like the CCP have taken over your account...
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This isn't accurate. He's gotten loads of support from the national dem party. The Bernie wing of the party spent a lot of money against him in the primary, but the establishment democrats saved him.

I was told by a high up Dem from Starr county that at the national level the Democratic party, in both primaries that Cisneros went against Cuellar, staunchly discouraged challenging an incumbent. But that when the progressive entities and the progressives in office such as Bernie Sanders, as you mention, and that Ocasio woman from NY endorsed him and helped Cisneros raise money the National part of the party didn't oppose them or step up to support, i.e. fund, Cuellar.

Not limiting the challenge and then helping his opponent is translates into opposing in politics.

This was seen by the one sided media blitz that took place against him in his district. You are right Cuellar had support, but most of it was at the local and state level. I mean if he didn't it would be an aberration as he had been in office for so long.

Cuellar as not saved by the establishment Dems, what saved him was the local political machines of a good portion of his district, primarily way south. Cuellar has a ton of name recognition and is well liked and supported by many with influence in his district, and justifiably so as he is a decent rep for his area.
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You are preaching to the choir boss. I understand and part of what you relate is why Trump won STX. The issue is that those in STX wanted Trump & Co. to go after the Haitians et. al., not Chuy the local painter or Pepe the waiter, both from Mexico.

I don't know how to explain this, but South Texas is very socially conservative, but Latin Americany in politics, they only look at how things affect them personally and locally. And STX has a lot of discrimination in it against "foreigners", i.e. not from Mexico. When somebodies Tio or Tia gets popped by ICE coming outta HEB (and this stuff is happening) word of mouth runs rampant. What the folks down here don't understand is that it is going to take a long while to legally unwind the absolute goat rope fiasco that Biden left when he granted protections to all those OTM's.

During the whole invasion, as that is what it was, by all those OTM's, Mexican's were still being deported and they could have been chased into the immigration office by AK-47 wielding sicaros and they would not have been considered for asylum or protection. And now mojados, who work and bust their ass, are being popped and it bothers the locals.
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His district is in deep STX, where we don't tolerate corruption, we demand it.

That is hilarious. I lived in LaFeria years ago and it hasn't changed.
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captkirk said:

Pardons:

George W. Bush 200
Obama 1,927
Biden 4,245
Trump 1,700


Do the math on those pardons. Let's say Trump spent just 60 Seconds carefully considering each one to make a decision. That would be Trump spending over 28 hours cumulative of his time working on and deciding pardons.

Obviously no way in hell Trump spent that much time evaluating each of those pardons. Nor Obama or Biden. Maybe only Bush actually gave careful thought to each of his 200 pardons. That might be believable.

A lot of these pardons are doubtless approved lower down the chain without much interaction or thought by the POTUS who grabs a pen and told where to sign, if not the auto-pen.

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Pumpkinhead said:

captkirk said:

Pardons:

George W. Bush 200
Obama 1,927
Biden 4,245
Trump 1,700


Do the math on those pardons. Let's say Trump spent just 60 Seconds carefully considering each one to make a decision. That would be Trump spending over 28 hours cumulative of his time working on and deciding pardons.

Obviously no way in hell Trump spent that much time evaluating each of those pardons. Nor Obama or Biden. Maybe only Bush actually gave careful thought to each of his 200 pardons. That might be believable.

A lot of these pardons are doubtless approved lower down the chain without much interaction or thought by the POTUS who grabs a pen and told where to sign, if not the auto-pen.




Or groups of people with deliberation (1500 or so for 1/6 for example). Not arguing, just adding a context to consider. I think Biden did a massive amount for marijuana for example. Overall point still probably a good one. Not sure on specifics of these numbers posted
 
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