The Lost Generation

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Spergin
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https://www.compactmag.com/article/the-lost-generation/

Here are just some of the staggering stats in the article. There are a lot more than this and it's getting worse. The DEI programs didn't go away, they have just rebranded.

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The doors seemed to close everywhere and all at once. In 2011, the year I moved to Los Angeles, white men were 48 percent of lower-level TV writers; by 2024, they accounted for just 11.9 percent. The Atlantic's editorial staff went from 53 percent male and 89 percent white in 2013 to 36 percent male and 66 percent white in 2024. White men fell from 39 percent of tenure-track positions in the humanities at Harvard in 2014 to 18 percent in 2023.


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These weren't empty slogans, either. In 2021, new hires at Cond Nast were just 25 percent male and 49 percent white; at the California Times, parent company of The Los Angeles Times and The San Diego Union-Tribune, they were just 39 percent male and 31 percent white. That year ProPublica hired 66 percent women and 58 percent people of color; at NPR, 78 percent of new hires were people of color.


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White men may still be 55 percent of Harvard's Arts & Sciences faculty (down from 63 percent a decade ago), but this is a legacy of Boomer and Gen-X employment patterns. For tenure-track positionsthe pipeline for future facultywhite men have gone from 49 percent in 2014 to 27 percent in 2024 (in the humanities, they've gone from 39 percent to 21 percent).


This story has exploded on X. I have seen thousands of stories about this article from people across virtually every single industry about systematic discrimination and door shutting. I have a few of my own.

The article is about a number of liberal arts fields and even has some leftist white men who got shut out, but the story doesn't end there. Virtually every white man under the age of 45 has experienced this in their career. If you're under the age of 30, this is your reality now.

This forum ignores the issue because few of the Gen X and Boomers were affected by this. They were high enough that they were already past the newly constructed barriers to entry.

Even for those of us who are successful, we all fear losing our jobs because we know it's almost certainly over if that happens. We can't leave our jobs because everything is now broken where the jobs either don't exist or they have no intention of hiring a white man.



[An X link or two are fine for supplemental context. We removed the excessive links to avoid the thread being cluttered with them -- Staff]

AgGrad99
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That is all very interesting, and not surprising in the least.

Read the full tweet from Marty (wowsers). He's extremely angry. But libs need to listen to what he says, and why he's so mad. They're against bullying...but have professionally bullied him into submission. Now he has a little power...he wants retribution. This is why things get ugly. (welp, Staff removed the link)

It reminds me of my son's elementary school yearbook that read: "Diversity is our Strength!"....with a corresponding picture of a group of Indian kids. When everyone in the picture looks the exact same, that's literally the opposite of diversity.



And all that said, their company name reminded me of this...

LMCane
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how can this surprise anyone?!?

the communists and Marxists have been literally stating this was their goal for 20 years!
texagbeliever
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One thing is for certain it definitely is not the fault of boomers who were in leadership positions when anti-white policies were implemented.
It wasnt the fault of boomers and gen x in leadership positions who shut the country down over covid..
It wasnt the fault of boomers and Gen x that our schools became utter trash and federalized over the past 30 plus years.
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LMCane said:

how can this surprise anyone?!?

the communists and Marxists have been literally stating this was their goal for 20 years!


It doesn't to anyone who was paying attention. This forum is repeatedly surprised though because it's full of Boomers who love the civil rights act and the civil rights movement. None of them were ever affected by of this stuff and tell everyone younger to pull themselves up by the bootstraps despite literally every single door being systematically closed in their face.

Some of the stories I posted above describe dudes who couldn't even find a job in fast food. That's how pervasive the desire to avoid hiring white men became.

I'll never understand a parent who doesn't do anything to help their kids succeed. I'll game the system as much as I can ensure my kids aren't left behind.
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My wife's cousin who is a white male and graduated college in 2013 with a hard liberal lean had a terrible time getting any kind of meaningful work. I remember talking to him in 2021 and I'm not sure if he switched ideologies completely but it surprised me how he was talking about minorities getting preferential treatment in his field and how he agreed a lot with Trump about woke culture and the border. He may have been one of those demographics that swung hard for Trump in 24
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The sad reality is if Dems get control in 2028, they will put pedal to the metal on DEI again and on open borders!

The future of this nation is bleak unfortunately. May the Lord grant us a peaceful, national divorce.
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Yesterday said:

My wife's cousin who is a white male and graduated college in 2013 with a hard liberal lean had a terrible time getting any kind of meaningful work. I remember talking to him in 2021 and I'm not sure if he switched ideologies completely but it surprised me how he was talking about minorities getting preferential treatment in his field and how he agreed a lot with Trump about woke culture and the border. He may have been one of those demographics that swung hard for Trump in 24

Reality has a way of reaching back and slapping the hell out of you
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Quote:

This forum is repeatedly surprised though...


Is it?

The board seems apt to discuss, maybe appalled, etc...but surprised? I think it's what most on here have predicted would be the outcome for a long while.
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Yesterday said:

My wife's cousin who is a white male and graduated college in 2013 with a hard liberal lean had a terrible time getting any kind of meaningful work. I remember talking to him in 2021 and I'm not sure if he switched ideologies completely but it surprised me how he was talking about minorities getting preferential treatment in his field and how he agreed a lot with Trump about woke culture and the border. He may have been one of those demographics that swung hard for Trump in 24

Yep.

I know someone who is left leaning, who complained that their kid was 'the wrong color' to get any academic scholarships.

I said, "but I thought it was illegal to discriminate...who could possibly support this?"

You vote these silly doctrines in, you suffer the consequences.
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cevans_40 said:

Yesterday said:

My wife's cousin who is a white male and graduated college in 2013 with a hard liberal lean had a terrible time getting any kind of meaningful work. I remember talking to him in 2021 and I'm not sure if he switched ideologies completely but it surprised me how he was talking about minorities getting preferential treatment in his field and how he agreed a lot with Trump about woke culture and the border. He may have been one of those demographics that swung hard for Trump in 24

Reality has a way of reaching back and slapping the hell out of you


I'm tired of responses like this. Saying he deserved is a terrible response. It's no better than a leftist Boomer telling him well it's time the non-whites have their turn.

This kid was guilty of nothing beyond being born at the wrong time.
Spergin
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AgGrad99 said:


Quote:

This forum is repeatedly surprised though...


Is it?

The board seems apt to discuss, maybe appalled, etc...but surprised? I think it's what most on here have predicted would be the outcome for a long while.


Yes it 100% is. Boomers act like it's the fault of those younger than them and not the system. They act like the free market will solve it when it won't, at all. They act like the civil rights movement was a good thing when all it did was lead to exactly this scenario.

Anyone and everyone who says or implies a bootstrap concept is just ignoring the issue and telling those who happened to be born at the wrong time, "tough ****, figure it out" instead of being angry at the system that caused it to happen.
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Spergin said:

cevans_40 said:

Yesterday said:

My wife's cousin who is a white male and graduated college in 2013 with a hard liberal lean had a terrible time getting any kind of meaningful work. I remember talking to him in 2021 and I'm not sure if he switched ideologies completely but it surprised me how he was talking about minorities getting preferential treatment in his field and how he agreed a lot with Trump about woke culture and the border. He may have been one of those demographics that swung hard for Trump in 24

Reality has a way of reaching back and slapping the hell out of you


I'm tired of responses like this. Saying he deserved is a terrible response. It's no better than a leftist Boomer telling him well it's time the non-whites have their turn.

This kid was guilty of nothing beyond being born at the wrong time.


He didnt say that.....
Detmersdislocatedshoulder
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there has been, and is a war against christian white males and it has been going on for quite
some time.

i wonder why that is
EclipseAg
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This article has generated lots of discussion online. And for good reason. It's a much-needed critique of DEI from the left, which gives progressives permission to finally notice.

But the DEI stuff has been going on for a lot longer than 2014. Even in the '80s, being a woman or minority was an advantage in many industries.

I can remember my father complaining that affirmative action was having a negative impact on his office. I saw a lot of that first hand well before the 2000s. It just hadn't reached a crescendo yet, but the writing was on the wall.

The other issue is that the men interviewed for this article still proclaim themselves to be liberals. After all that they've gone through, they still can't accept that many on the left hate them.
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samurai_science said:

Spergin said:

cevans_40 said:

Yesterday said:

My wife's cousin who is a white male and graduated college in 2013 with a hard liberal lean had a terrible time getting any kind of meaningful work. I remember talking to him in 2021 and I'm not sure if he switched ideologies completely but it surprised me how he was talking about minorities getting preferential treatment in his field and how he agreed a lot with Trump about woke culture and the border. He may have been one of those demographics that swung hard for Trump in 24

Reality has a way of reaching back and slapping the hell out of you


I'm tired of responses like this. Saying he deserved is a terrible response. It's no better than a leftist Boomer telling him well it's time the non-whites have their turn.

This kid was guilty of nothing beyond being born at the wrong time.


He didnt say that.....


"Reality has a way of reaching back…"

These responses are worthless. The problem is institutional and systemic. People have been actively shut out across the board because they are white men. Even the liberal white men now realize it.
Spergin
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EclipseAg said:

This article has generated lots of discussion online. And for good reason. It's a much-needed critique of DEI from the left, which gives progressives permission to finally notice.

But the DEI stuff has been going on for a lot longer than 2014. Even in the '80s, being a woman or minority was an advantage in many industries.

I can remember my father complaining that affirmative action was having a negative impact on his office. I saw a lot of that first hand well before the 2000s. It just hadn't reached a crescendo yet, but the writing was on the wall.

The other issue is that the men interviewed for this article still proclaim themselves to be liberals. After all that they've gone through, they still can't accept that many on the left hate them.


The Civil Rights Act is the ultimate cause of all of this, it just took a long time to see the end result.
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Spergin said:

LMCane said:

how can this surprise anyone?!?

the communists and Marxists have been literally stating this was their goal for 20 years!


It doesn't to anyone who was paying attention. This forum is repeatedly surprised though because it's full of Boomers who love the civil rights act and the civil rights movement. None of them were ever affected by of this stuff and tell everyone younger to pull themselves up by the bootstraps despite literally every single door being systematically closed in their face.


That is quite literally 100% false! You started out well, then went completely off the rails.
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Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

there has been, and is a war against christian white males and it has been going on for quite
some time.

i wonder why that is


Weird. As a member of the alleged oppressed demographic, I have had no problem succeeding in the world and am surrounded by men of similar story in my career arc.

Maybe you guys should just learn to network better?
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Spergin said:

EclipseAg said:

This article has generated lots of discussion online. And for good reason. It's a much-needed critique of DEI from the left, which gives progressives permission to finally notice.

But the DEI stuff has been going on for a lot longer than 2014. Even in the '80s, being a woman or minority was an advantage in many industries.

I can remember my father complaining that affirmative action was having a negative impact on his office. I saw a lot of that first hand well before the 2000s. It just hadn't reached a crescendo yet, but the writing was on the wall.

The other issue is that the men interviewed for this article still proclaim themselves to be liberals. After all that they've gone through, they still can't accept that many on the left hate them.


The Civil Rights Act is the ultimate cause of all of this, it just took a long time to see the end result.


The Civil Rights act does not allow discrimination against whites in the workplace or in academia. That would be white liberals who are acting illegally!
Spergin
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The problem is much much worse than people realize too.
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Dan Carlin said:

Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

there has been, and is a war against christian white males and it has been going on for quite
some time.

i wonder why that is


Weird. As a member of the alleged oppressed demographic, I have had no problem succeeding in the world and am surrounded by men of similar story in my career arc.

Maybe you guys should just learn to network better?


Screw your own kids amirite? I made it, who cares about anyone else.
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The lost generation needs reparations.

Why them?
The people who did the crime are still here. Many are still in power.
The people directly affected are still alive.
No, I don't care what CNN or Miss NOW said this time
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EclipseAg said:

This article has generated lots of discussion online. And for good reason. It's a much-needed critique of DEI from the left, which gives progressives permission to finally notice.

But the DEI stuff has been going on for a lot longer than 2014. Even in the '80s, being a woman or minority was an advantage in many industries.

I can remember my father complaining that affirmative action was having a negative impact on his office. I saw a lot of that first hand well before the 2000s. It just hadn't reached a crescendo yet, but the writing was on the wall.

The other issue is that the men interviewed for this article still proclaim themselves to be liberals. After all that they've gone through, they still can't accept that many on the left hate them.

The firefighter dad in American History X was way more right than wrong in his comments.
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Spergin said:

AgGrad99 said:


Quote:

This forum is repeatedly surprised though...


Is it?

The board seems apt to discuss, maybe appalled, etc...but surprised? I think it's what most on here have predicted would be the outcome for a long while.


Yes it 100% is. Boomers act like it's the fault of those younger than them and not the system. They act like the free market will solve it when it won't, at all. They act like the civil rights movement was a good thing when all it did was lead to exactly this scenario.

Anyone and everyone who says or implies a bootstrap concept is just ignoring the issue and telling those who happened to be born at the wrong time, "tough ****, figure it out" instead of being angry at the system that caused it to happen.

I think you are conflating a couple of issues here to some degree. This board does not ignore the DEI issue nor the fact that white people are being discriminated against in hiring decisions. We discuss it daily.

Examples I have shared previously from my own experience:

During #metoo, I have first-hand knowledge from a Senior VP at one of the largest tech companies in the US that he was required to backfill any open positions with females. In addition, any events they sponsored (eg golf tournaments) were to prioritize female employees in attendance over even male executives.

During BLM outrage, my own corporate company (along with almost every other F500 company at the time) announced a quota for blacks in executive leadership positions. They never actually got there though because there weren't enough qualified blacks to meet their quota. They smartly didn't promote blacks just to promote blacks.
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Keep demonizing and openly discriminating against the most heavily armed demographic in America. What could ever go wrong?
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AgBQ-00 said:

EclipseAg said:

This article has generated lots of discussion online. And for good reason. It's a much-needed critique of DEI from the left, which gives progressives permission to finally notice.

But the DEI stuff has been going on for a lot longer than 2014. Even in the '80s, being a woman or minority was an advantage in many industries.

I can remember my father complaining that affirmative action was having a negative impact on his office. I saw a lot of that first hand well before the 2000s. It just hadn't reached a crescendo yet, but the writing was on the wall.

The other issue is that the men interviewed for this article still proclaim themselves to be liberals. After all that they've gone through, they still can't accept that many on the left hate them.

The firefighter dad in American History X was way more right than wrong in his comments.

That movie aged very poorly. The message is basically, "some of them are good, but be careful which ones you asssociate with as they are disproportionately prone to violence".
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One way around this for white people is to pursue opportunities at private companies which are becoming much more common. You can avoid all of the public company virtue signaling b.s. that way.

My last company was a private startup, and we had an extremely disciplined hiring strategy. Admittedly, it's way easier to do this when you are a startup and not public, but that's the whole reason why I'm recommending looking at private. It was purely a meritocracy and experience driven hiring process. And not having an HR department was a bonus. We actually fired the guy that was moonlighting as our "HR department".
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So are we still blaming boomers or not?
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They've now expanded the blame to gen x too.
God loves you so much He'll meet you where you are. He also loves you too much to allow to stay where you are.

We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!
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Spergin said:

Dan Carlin said:

Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

there has been, and is a war against christian white males and it has been going on for quite
some time.

i wonder why that is


Weird. As a member of the alleged oppressed demographic, I have had no problem succeeding in the world and am surrounded by men of similar story in my career arc.

Maybe you guys should just learn to network better?


Screw your own kids amirite? I made it, who cares about anyone else.

White men will continue to be successful because they will have to deal with adversity and not have excuses. The path to success is not ultimately through being hired by the DEI block. DEI will ultimately cause those companies to fall to the wayside the same way other anti-competitive practices eventually do. The market will fix it, and the white male kids, if they actually deserve to be successful, will change the market by their own reaction to the existing conditions.

In other words, if DEI is keeping your white male kid from succeeding, then they aren't built to overcome the excuses. I'd say the same to any minority in a non-DEI world, which will be soon enough as DEI is causing businesses to fall.
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YouBet said:

Spergin said:

AgGrad99 said:


Quote:

This forum is repeatedly surprised though...


Is it?

The board seems apt to discuss, maybe appalled, etc...but surprised? I think it's what most on here have predicted would be the outcome for a long while.


Yes it 100% is. Boomers act like it's the fault of those younger than them and not the system. They act like the free market will solve it when it won't, at all. They act like the civil rights movement was a good thing when all it did was lead to exactly this scenario.

Anyone and everyone who says or implies a bootstrap concept is just ignoring the issue and telling those who happened to be born at the wrong time, "tough ****, figure it out" instead of being angry at the system that caused it to happen.

I think you are conflating a couple of issues here to some degree. This board does not ignore the DEI issue nor the fact that white people are being discriminated against in hiring decisions. We discuss it daily.

Examples I have shared previously from my own experience:

During #metoo, I have first-hand knowledge from a Senior VP at one of the largest tech companies in the US that he was required to backfill any open positions with females. In addition, any events they sponsored (eg golf tournaments) were to prioritize female employees in attendance over even male executives.

During BLM outrage, my own corporate company (along with almost every other F500 company at the time) announced a quota for blacks in executive leadership positions. They never actually got there though because there weren't enough qualified blacks to meet their quota. They smartly didn't promote blacks just to promote blacks.


So then why do so many default back to the bootstraps argument when it is demonstrably not just false but actively impossible. How do you tell someone who has been shutout so badly he can't even get a job flipping burgers because they won't hire white men that he should just work harder?

That's not a solution and does nothing but create generational divide. The response instead should be visceral anger at what has been allowed to propagate.
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Dan Carlin said:

Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

there has been, and is a war against christian white males and it has been going on for quite
some time.

i wonder why that is


Weird. As a member of the alleged oppressed demographic, I have had no problem succeeding in the world and am surrounded by men of similar story in my career arc.

Maybe you guys should just learn to network better?


Jewish? That gets ignored often in these stats; if you narrow down to gentile white men the numbers are even worse
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When I was in graduate school, our placement office purposely took us to a job fair designed for POC. One of our professors collected data from it.

Not surprisingly, no one that went got a job, not even the POC.

It was kind of a waste of time, but kind of hilarious. I got 5 job interviews on the spot when the hiring manager saw my resume. Each interview lasted less than 10 minutes.

Just a purposeful stick in the eye to the DEI guys before DEI was a thing.

We left early, the University bought us a nice lunch (I think that the professor in question likely footed the bill with grant money), and got a lot of experience on how to handle really uncomfortable interviews.

You have never experienced real schadenfreude until you see a hiring manager eagerly walking into an interview room, and watching their face change to extreme disappointment so quickly with one look at you.

"Are you really [Busterag]?"

It helps that my name and surname could easily be either a White or Black person's name.

So much fun.
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Spergin said:

AgGrad99 said:


Quote:

This forum is repeatedly surprised though...


Is it?

The board seems apt to discuss, maybe appalled, etc...but surprised? I think it's what most on here have predicted would be the outcome for a long while.


Yes it 100% is. Boomers act like it's the fault of those younger than them and not the system. They act like the free market will solve it when it won't, at all. They act like the civil rights movement was a good thing when all it did was lead to exactly this scenario.

Anyone and everyone who says or implies a bootstrap concept is just ignoring the issue and telling those who happened to be born at the wrong time, "tough ****, figure it out" instead of being angry at the system that caused it to happen.


What does that have to do with whether they are surprised or not? (which is what I was commenting about). No one on this board is ignoring or surprised by these things.


Look, Boomers aren't perfect, but they aren't the boogie man for all your problems. FAR FAR FAR too many young people vote these silly ideals into office as well. If you want to get mad at someone, get mad at liberal women (of all ages). They're the biggest voting block for the politicians who push these ideals.
 
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