Spergin said:
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Spergin said:
AgGrad99 said:
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This forum is repeatedly surprised though...
Is it?
The board seems apt to discuss, maybe appalled, etc...but surprised? I think it's what most on here have predicted would be the outcome for a long while.
Yes it 100% is. Boomers act like it's the fault of those younger than them and not the system. They act like the free market will solve it when it won't, at all. They act like the civil rights movement was a good thing when all it did was lead to exactly this scenario.
Anyone and everyone who says or implies a bootstrap concept is just ignoring the issue and telling those who happened to be born at the wrong time, "tough ****, figure it out" instead of being angry at the system that caused it to happen.
I think you are conflating a couple of issues here to some degree. This board does not ignore the DEI issue nor the fact that white people are being discriminated against in hiring decisions. We discuss it daily.
Examples I have shared previously from my own experience:
During #metoo, I have first-hand knowledge from a Senior VP at one of the largest tech companies in the US that he was required to backfill any open positions with females. In addition, any events they sponsored (eg golf tournaments) were to prioritize female employees in attendance over even male executives.
During BLM outrage, my own corporate company (along with almost every other F500 company at the time) announced a quota for blacks in executive leadership positions. They never actually got there though because there weren't enough qualified blacks to meet their quota. They smartly didn't promote blacks just to promote blacks.
So then why do so many default back to the bootstraps argument when it is demonstrably not just false but actively impossible. How do you tell someone who has been shutout so badly he can't even get a job flipping burgers because they won't hire white men that he should just work harder?
That's not a solution and does nothing but create generational divide. The response instead should be visceral anger at what has been allowed to propagate.
I generally don't go whole hog on the bootstraps argument. Like many things reality is somewhere in the middle. You also can't deny that the millennials who have suffered from this vote en masse for people who push the very policies that punish them. They've pushed their own suicidal employment pact. So, I'm not blaming you specifically, but the younger generations sealed their own fate here, partially.
Hopefully, all of this Gen Z going right wing talk I hear about is actually true. I don't believe it yet because I see completely conflicting information about them from various sources.
Gen X is the most conversative demo we have of which I'm a part. Unfortunately, we are also the smallest demo we have, so our influence is less impactful than others especially now that you have four generations in the workplace. We are diluted by the other more, white guilt driven demos.