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2:09p, 12/18/25
https://nypost.com/2025/12/18/us-news/trump-to-deliver-pot-reform-dream-but-rescheduling-stops-short-of-full-legalization/

Basically Trump signed an order to move it to a Schedule III drug. It does not legalize it but paves the way for medical use.

Though I expect beurocratic delays and regional fights, I hope in the next year this removes employers ability to fire for testing positive for THC as long as you have a valid prescription. This doesn't mean an employee can get high or be high at work - same as alcohol. I also suspect Texas will continue to be very stringent.

Finally, a president does something to bring some common sense to this situation.

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2:16p, 12/18/25
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Rescheduled to schedule 3.

It'll allow for official studies and research without it being the same as heroin.

I'd suspect that in another couple years it'll be legalized federally
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2:18p, 12/18/25
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Donde esta, Grape Soda?
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2:18p, 12/18/25
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Good Trump!
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2:20p, 12/18/25
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1) The biggest implication is that federal taxes on grow and dispense operations go down from something like 70% to something like 35%. That is HUGE! Grow operation owners that are somehow still in business just got rich. Those impacts start now.

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Key Tax Implications
  • Elimination of Section 280E: Currently, Section 280E of the Internal Revenue Code prohibits businesses trafficking in Schedule I or II substances from deducting ordinary and necessary business expenses (like rent, payroll, marketing, and administrative costs) from their gross income. They can only deduct the "cost of goods sold" (COGS).
  • Ability to Deduct Expenses: If rescheduled to Schedule III or lower, cannabis businesses would no longer be subject to 280E and could deduct normal operating expenses, just like any other industry.
  • Lower Effective Tax Rates: This change would reduce effective tax rates that currently can exceed 70-80% for some operators, bringing them closer to the standard corporate rate and significantly improving net income and cash flow.
  • Increased Access to Tax Credits: Businesses could take advantage of various federal tax credits and benefits previously unavailable, such as:
    • Research and development (R&D) credits.
    • Energy credits for investing in efficient facilities.
    • Work Opportunity Tax Credits (WOTC) for hiring from specific targeted groups.
    • Bonus depreciation on fixed assets.

2) I am a solid employment-at-will guy. If your employer wants to be able to fire you for using THC, he should be able to. Period. Especially if the policy says so.

A corollary example is concealed carry. An employer cannot legally ban you from carrying your gun without the proper signage. The employer can also fire you immediately if you carry to work. That is fine by me.

3) Dropping Weed to Schedule III is a great split-the-baby compromise. It will make THC a lot more available without really legalizing it. I agree that it is common sense reform.

4) Too much weed makes you stupid. Don't do that. Especially don't let people under 25 do that. If you want to enjoy responsibly in your own home, that is 100% your business, but, it's not correct to say that using weed doesn't come with costs.
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In reply to Ol_Ag_02 • 2:21p, 12/18/25
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Ol_Ag_02 said:
Good Trump!


If yall saw the signing in the oval office, it was pretty funny. There were definitely different people with different interests for different groups present for the signing but all seemed content. Trump was adamant that he wouldn't touch it though
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In reply to ttha_aggie_09 • 2:24p, 12/18/25
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ttha_aggie_09 said:
Donde esta, Grape Soda?

He's hanging out with Floyd waiting for a visit from James Gandolfini.

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In reply to TAMUallen • 2:24p, 12/18/25
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TAMUallen said:
Ol_Ag_02 said:
Good Trump!


If yall saw the signing in the oval office, it was pretty funny. There were definitely different people with different interests for different groups present for the signing but all seemed content. Trump was adamant that he wouldn't touch it though

Trump doesn't even drink.
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2:30p, 12/18/25
Just legalize it you dopes!
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2:32p, 12/18/25
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great...more people that smell like absolute **** when walking by or driving by with the windows rolled down
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In reply to BusterAg • 2:34p, 12/18/25
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BusterAg said:
TAMUallen said:
Ol_Ag_02 said:
Good Trump!


If yall saw the signing in the oval office, it was pretty funny. There were definitely different people with different interests for different groups present for the signing but all seemed content. Trump was adamant that he wouldn't touch it though

Trump doesn't even drink.


Yep, doesn't do anything. It was worth a chuckle to hear him advocating this change and how people he has known needing to use it but still making it clear he wouldn't touch it
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In reply to ETFan • 2:34p, 12/18/25
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Just legalize it you dopes!


You'll have to wait for President Fat Vance or Pudding Finger Desantis.
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In reply to Aggie95 • 2:35p, 12/18/25
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great...more people that smell like absolute **** when walking by or driving by with the windows rolled down
you mean the people that were already breaking the law?

Yeah, this isn't for them. It's for people that haven't been able to actually use it medically.
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In reply to BusterAg • 2:42p, 12/18/25
I think you are partially right and partially wrong.

You cannot prohibit someone from using a legally prescribed drug. Doctors will now be able to prescribe it. You can prohibit someone from being under the influence of a legally prescribed drug at work. For example, you can use hydrocodone, but if you use at work, you can be fired.
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In reply to Aggie95 • 2:45p, 12/18/25
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Aggie95 said:
great...more people that smell like absolute **** when walking by or driving by with the windows rolled down


Of all the things to complain about. Weed smoke smells 100x better than cig smoke
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In reply to BusterAg • 2:47p, 12/18/25
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The "costs" of smoking a little weed is massively less than the costs of having a couple drinks. Everything about alcohol is more hardcore than marijuana.

Anyone who acts like weed is worse than alcohol immediately loses all credibility.
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In reply to David_Puddy • 2:50p, 12/18/25
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David_Puddy said:
Aggie95 said:
great...more people that smell like absolute **** when walking by or driving by with the windows rolled down


Of all the things to complain about. Weed smoke smells 100x better than cig smoke

This.

Also, using a dry-herb vaporizer drastically cuts down on the smell for others and cuts down on a lot of the combustion toxins you get from smoking/burning the herb.
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2:50p, 12/18/25
great trump, anti-freedom boomercons get rekt
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In reply to Aggie95 • 2:54p, 12/18/25
Aggie95 said:
great...more people that smell like absolute **** when walking by or driving by with the windows rolled down
If you know what a Schedule 1 drug smells like, perhaps keeping it improperly at "Schedule 1" wasn't doing much in the first place.
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In reply to BigRobSA • 2:58p, 12/18/25
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BigRobSA said:
ETFan said:
Just legalize it you dopes!


You'll have to wait for President Fat Vance or Pudding Finger Desantis.

With a username like yours, something about glass houses... :-)
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In reply to ETFan • 3:00p, 12/18/25
ETFan said:
Just legalize it you dopes!


Baby steps.

Don't worry, it's happening, and sooner rather than later.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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3:05p, 12/18/25
warms my heart to know that somewhere right now, dan patrick and his big pharma donors are seething with rage
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3:27p, 12/18/25
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Good Trump
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3:33p, 12/18/25
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So is this still true? My '80's brain has some preconditioning.



TO THE DROP ZONE!!!
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In reply to David_Puddy • 3:37p, 12/18/25
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David_Puddy said:
Aggie95 said:
great...more people that smell like absolute **** when walking by or driving by with the windows rolled down


Of all the things to complain about. Weed smoke smells 100x better than cig smoke

STRONGLY DISAGREE!
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In reply to BigRobSA • 3:38p, 12/18/25
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BigRobSA said:
Aggie95 said:
great...more people that smell like absolute **** when walking by or driving by with the windows rolled down

you mean the people that were already breaking the law?

Yeah, this isn't for them. It's for people that haven't been able to actually use it medically.

And the overwhelming majority of the medical use is through gummies or edibles, because the medical community generally frowns on smoking anything as it is.
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3:40p, 12/18/25
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It's funny how all the w33d subreddits just can't say anything positive about this.

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they would like you to forget about the Epstein files and the crimes against humanity that they are committing on a daily basis


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My god tomorrow's Epstein drop is gonna be insane.


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Do you think Trump prefers to Vape or Smoke the Epstein Files?


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Dont care. Release the files. Stop the war crimes.


These people are idiots.
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3:49p, 12/18/25
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Though I expect beurocratic delays and regional fights, I hope in the next year this removes employers ability to fire for testing positive for THC as long as you have a valid prescription. This doesn't mean an employee can get high or be high at work - same as alcohol. I also suspect Texas will continue to be very stringent.

Why do potheads think that they have a constitutional right to do drugs?

No, this will not prevent employers from firing people who use drugs.
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In reply to byfLuger41 • 3:50p, 12/18/25
byfLuger41 said:
So is this still true? My '80's brain has some preconditioning.





I usually like to play "whatabout" with these. I'll look up some alcohol related, nsfL car crash pictures. Then we can discuss scrambled eggs.

Not directed at you, of course. That picture always gives me a chuckle.
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dustin999 said:
It's funny how all the w33d subreddits just can't say anything positive about this.

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they would like you to forget about the Epstein files and the crimes against humanity that they are committing on a daily basis


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My god tomorrow's Epstein drop is gonna be insane.


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Do you think Trump prefers to Vape or Smoke the Epstein Files?


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Dont care. Release the files. Stop the war crimes.


These people are idiots.


Why even go to that dirty website?
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3:54p, 12/18/25
Congress still needs to undue what they did in the recent legislation reopening the government. Even with rescheduling the federal government will effectively make criminals out of millions that currently use hemp-derived products allowed by the 2018 Farm Bill.
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In reply to David_Puddy • 3:55p, 12/18/25
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David_Puddy said:
Aggie95 said:
great...more people that smell like absolute when walking by or driving by with the windows rolled down


Of all the things to complain about. Weed smoke smells 100x better than cig smoke

The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
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In reply to TA-OP • 3:56p, 12/18/25
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TA-OP said:
Congress still needs to undue what they did in the recent legislation reopening the government. Even with rescheduling the federal government will effectively make criminals out of millions that currently use hemp-derived products allowed by the 2018 Farm Bill.
No worries. If the Dems sweep the House in the midterms, gridlock will ensure the status quo remains in place for years.
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In reply to techno-ag • 4:05p, 12/18/25
techno-ag said:
TA-OP said:
Congress still needs to undue what they did in the recent legislation reopening the government. Even with rescheduling the federal government will effectively make criminals out of millions that currently use hemp-derived products allowed by the 2018 Farm Bill.
No worries. If the Dems sweep the House in the midterms, gridlock will ensure the status quo remains in place for years.
Not sure if we're on the same wavelength. What I'm saying is the GOP snuck a rider into the not-so-clean bill reopening the government that effectively shuts the Farm Bill loophole. They gave it a 1 year hold on its implementation. So, at some point in the next year, the status quo becomes making criminals out of millions.
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In reply to TA-OP • 4:13p, 12/18/25
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TA-OP said:
techno-ag said:
TA-OP said:
Congress still needs to undue what they did in the recent legislation reopening the government. Even with rescheduling the federal government will effectively make criminals out of millions that currently use hemp-derived products allowed by the 2018 Farm Bill.
No worries. If the Dems sweep the House in the midterms, gridlock will ensure the status quo remains in place for years.
Not sure if we're on the same wavelength. What I'm saying is the GOP snuck a rider into the not-so-clean bill reopening the government that effectively shuts the Farm Bill loophole. They gave it a 1 year hold on its implementation. So, at some point in the next year, the status quo becomes making criminals out of millions.

Yes. You should pray the Dems don't take over the House.
The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
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