flown-the-coop said:

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infinity ag said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Malibu said:

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I can feel sympathy for the plight of these folks as individuals. They made a life here, followed the process, and got screwed. There should have been more humanity in a process that ended this cleanly and not stranding people with no agency into a nightmare. That doesn't mean backfilling foreign labor for high skilled US jobs is a good policy. We could have both ended the policy and fairly allowed for people to make responsible plans for their future knowing it would sunset rather than marooning them away from their family and property.

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The process IS that their visas must be renewed. So they didn't get screwed. The just didn't get picked up for another season. Now they can take their experience learned here and can contribute in a beneficial way to their country.

If they want permanent residency, they need something other than an H-1B.

Assuming your visa renewal was automatic was and is a big problem of the problem.

Best Trump here.

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Hey you are right. I hadn't thought of it that way.

It is not anyone's fault if they bought expensive houses and cars on a TEMPORARY work visa. They should have waited until they got a green card which is more permanent.

I can foresee a housing market crash though with many H1Bs in places like SF, Seattle, Dallas, Atlanta forcing to flee. Prices will crash but make housing more affordable for Americans too.

Lots of impacts.

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They can sell their house remotely and have their wares shipped to them.

I posted in another thread a while back but this happened to a friend of mine, H1-B from Jordan, who was told her visa may not be renewed. She planned accordingly and was indeed denied re-entry.

Even if you went to Mexico is was subject to review and could be denied.

There is literally nothing new here except if they are denied they are home instead of Ciudad Juarez.

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They aren't being denied. Their appointment is being pushed for 6 months.

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I work in the tech industry where we deal with staffing our projects like this all the time. Its 100% just cost driven why we hire and staff H1B on projects instead of America based resources (which we also have in spades). So its definitely not true that they are needed due to knowledge and not being able to find an American resource. A hypothetical example here is my America based resource costs my project lets say $125/hour while i can bring 4-5 offshore resources in for that same overall cost. Quality of the output rarely factors in on the front side where these projects get sold and staffed but i can 100% tell you i will give anything complicated to develop to my on shore resources before i fall back onto offshore and H1B lol

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You are right and my observation matches this.

So I blame the US politician for allowing this, not the US CEO (unless he did something illegal). You cannot allow companies to hire from abroad and then tax the local people who cannot get those high paying jobs and gas-light them as dumb and lazy. Many people cannot even do multiple jobs at the same time legally (I have a friend who did 3 full time tech jobs at the same time!) until he got laid off, got fired, and then got laid off again.

That is Boomer logic for you.

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I'm praying an American citizen gets the job since this is... America. Is that Christ-like?

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Believe Mary, Joseph, Jesus and the rest of the Christ family were immigrants, no? I keep hearing that's why they were stuck in the manger for coloreds.

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Nope. They went back to Bethlehem for the census per the decree by Augustus. Bethlehem was their ancestral homeland city. Every city they occupied in the Bible account was part of the same country Israel.

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Roman-occupied Israel to be exact.

And yes, I know the nativity story. But its fun to point out libs are now trotting out new talking points about Jesus and his treatment as an immigrant. But since he was created by his heavenly father, was Jesus an anchor baby?

Then lawd they really have no issue to complain about. Sorry you had to go home for 6 months. Country is closed, Moose out front should have told ya.

deddog said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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infinity ag said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Malibu said:

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I can feel sympathy for the plight of these folks as individuals. They made a life here, followed the process, and got screwed. There should have been more humanity in a process that ended this cleanly and not stranding people with no agency into a nightmare. That doesn't mean backfilling foreign labor for high skilled US jobs is a good policy. We could have both ended the policy and fairly allowed for people to make responsible plans for their future knowing it would sunset rather than marooning them away from their family and property.

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The process IS that their visas must be renewed. So they didn't get screwed. The just didn't get picked up for another season. Now they can take their experience learned here and can contribute in a beneficial way to their country.

If they want permanent residency, they need something other than an H-1B.

Assuming your visa renewal was automatic was and is a big problem of the problem.

Best Trump here.

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Hey you are right. I hadn't thought of it that way.

It is not anyone's fault if they bought expensive houses and cars on a TEMPORARY work visa. They should have waited until they got a green card which is more permanent.

I can foresee a housing market crash though with many H1Bs in places like SF, Seattle, Dallas, Atlanta forcing to flee. Prices will crash but make housing more affordable for Americans too.

Lots of impacts.

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They can sell their house remotely and have their wares shipped to them.

I posted in another thread a while back but this happened to a friend of mine, H1-B from Jordan, who was told her visa may not be renewed. She planned accordingly and was indeed denied re-entry.

Even if you went to Mexico is was subject to review and could be denied.

There is literally nothing new here except if they are denied they are home instead of Ciudad Juarez.

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They aren't being denied. Their appointment is being pushed for 6 months.

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Yes, but the point is that their visas are temporary so if they make purchases assuming permanency, it is their own fault.

They are interviewing to ask for a renewal as their "contract" for work permit is ending. US can at that point just say no and it would not even be unethical.

infinity ag said:

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deddog said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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infinity ag said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Malibu said:

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I can feel sympathy for the plight of these folks as individuals. They made a life here, followed the process, and got screwed. There should have been more humanity in a process that ended this cleanly and not stranding people with no agency into a nightmare. That doesn't mean backfilling foreign labor for high skilled US jobs is a good policy. We could have both ended the policy and fairly allowed for people to make responsible plans for their future knowing it would sunset rather than marooning them away from their family and property.

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The process IS that their visas must be renewed. So they didn't get screwed. The just didn't get picked up for another season. Now they can take their experience learned here and can contribute in a beneficial way to their country.

If they want permanent residency, they need something other than an H-1B.

Assuming your visa renewal was automatic was and is a big problem of the problem.

Best Trump here.

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Hey you are right. I hadn't thought of it that way.

It is not anyone's fault if they bought expensive houses and cars on a TEMPORARY work visa. They should have waited until they got a green card which is more permanent.

I can foresee a housing market crash though with many H1Bs in places like SF, Seattle, Dallas, Atlanta forcing to flee. Prices will crash but make housing more affordable for Americans too.

Lots of impacts.

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They can sell their house remotely and have their wares shipped to them.

I posted in another thread a while back but this happened to a friend of mine, H1-B from Jordan, who was told her visa may not be renewed. She planned accordingly and was indeed denied re-entry.

Even if you went to Mexico is was subject to review and could be denied.

There is literally nothing new here except if they are denied they are home instead of Ciudad Juarez.

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They aren't being denied. Their appointment is being pushed for 6 months.

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Yes, but the point is that their visas are temporary so if they make purchases assuming permanency, it is their own fault.

They are interviewing to ask for a renewal as their "contract" for work permit is ending. US can at that point just say no and it would not even be unethical.

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This.

Make sure you have a plan to sell whatever you buy before you buy it. I'm sure the H1Bs who didn't get booted can help.

Liberals are all about making victims of folks who make their own beds and then have to lie in them. Then they try to shame the rest of us who don't! They will even use Jesus and the Bible, which they don't pay any attention to except when they think it can move the needle on what they want.

Maybe they can get a tourist visa and come back legally to their McMansions while they wait.

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I had a friend in graduate school that popped porches during the dotcom boom when he was in undergrad. He was making 10% to 20% of the value of the car on repossessing them.

Wonder if this problem is bad enough to look into that again.......

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I dont know what you said. Sounds cool or lame. I'm not sure.

Goodbye

infinity ag said:

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deddog said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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infinity ag said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Malibu said:

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I can feel sympathy for the plight of these folks as individuals. They made a life here, followed the process, and got screwed. There should have been more humanity in a process that ended this cleanly and not stranding people with no agency into a nightmare. That doesn't mean backfilling foreign labor for high skilled US jobs is a good policy. We could have both ended the policy and fairly allowed for people to make responsible plans for their future knowing it would sunset rather than marooning them away from their family and property.

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The process IS that their visas must be renewed. So they didn't get screwed. The just didn't get picked up for another season. Now they can take their experience learned here and can contribute in a beneficial way to their country.

If they want permanent residency, they need something other than an H-1B.

Assuming your visa renewal was automatic was and is a big problem of the problem.

Best Trump here.

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Hey you are right. I hadn't thought of it that way.

It is not anyone's fault if they bought expensive houses and cars on a TEMPORARY work visa. They should have waited until they got a green card which is more permanent.

I can foresee a housing market crash though with many H1Bs in places like SF, Seattle, Dallas, Atlanta forcing to flee. Prices will crash but make housing more affordable for Americans too.

Lots of impacts.

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They can sell their house remotely and have their wares shipped to them.

I posted in another thread a while back but this happened to a friend of mine, H1-B from Jordan, who was told her visa may not be renewed. She planned accordingly and was indeed denied re-entry.

Even if you went to Mexico is was subject to review and could be denied.

There is literally nothing new here except if they are denied they are home instead of Ciudad Juarez.

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They aren't being denied. Their appointment is being pushed for 6 months.

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Yes, but the point is that their visas are temporary so if they make purchases assuming permanency, it is their own fault.

They are interviewing to ask for a renewal as their "contract" for work permit is ending. US can at that point just say no and it would not even be unethical.

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My point wasn't about stuff. It was changing rules mid -stream to be more punitive against legal folks.

Ok i get it, we don't like H1s or the H1 program. Government changing the rules mid-stream against those following the law just stinks. It's unnecessarily punitive.

This pleases the crowd, but these seem like half-assed measures that aren't thought through.
**** like this is why its easier to be illegal.

deddog said:

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infinity ag said:

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deddog said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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infinity ag said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Malibu said:

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I can feel sympathy for the plight of these folks as individuals. They made a life here, followed the process, and got screwed. There should have been more humanity in a process that ended this cleanly and not stranding people with no agency into a nightmare. That doesn't mean backfilling foreign labor for high skilled US jobs is a good policy. We could have both ended the policy and fairly allowed for people to make responsible plans for their future knowing it would sunset rather than marooning them away from their family and property.

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The process IS that their visas must be renewed. So they didn't get screwed. The just didn't get picked up for another season. Now they can take their experience learned here and can contribute in a beneficial way to their country.

If they want permanent residency, they need something other than an H-1B.

Assuming your visa renewal was automatic was and is a big problem of the problem.

Best Trump here.

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Hey you are right. I hadn't thought of it that way.

It is not anyone's fault if they bought expensive houses and cars on a TEMPORARY work visa. They should have waited until they got a green card which is more permanent.

I can foresee a housing market crash though with many H1Bs in places like SF, Seattle, Dallas, Atlanta forcing to flee. Prices will crash but make housing more affordable for Americans too.

Lots of impacts.

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They can sell their house remotely and have their wares shipped to them.

I posted in another thread a while back but this happened to a friend of mine, H1-B from Jordan, who was told her visa may not be renewed. She planned accordingly and was indeed denied re-entry.

Even if you went to Mexico is was subject to review and could be denied.

There is literally nothing new here except if they are denied they are home instead of Ciudad Juarez.

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They aren't being denied. Their appointment is being pushed for 6 months.

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Yes, but the point is that their visas are temporary so if they make purchases assuming permanency, it is their own fault.

They are interviewing to ask for a renewal as their "contract" for work permit is ending. US can at that point just say no and it would not even be unethical.

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My point wasn't about stuff. It was changing rules mid -stream to be more punitive against legal folks.

Ok i get it, we don't like H1s or the H1 program. Government changing the rules mid-stream against those following the law just stinks. It's unnecessarily punitive.

This pleases the crowd, but these seem like half-assed measures that aren't thought through.
**** like this is why its easier to be illegal.

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Which rules in particular are being changed midstream against legal folks?

infinity ag said:

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deddog said:

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infinity ag said:

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deddog said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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infinity ag said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Malibu said:

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I can feel sympathy for the plight of these folks as individuals. They made a life here, followed the process, and got screwed. There should have been more humanity in a process that ended this cleanly and not stranding people with no agency into a nightmare. That doesn't mean backfilling foreign labor for high skilled US jobs is a good policy. We could have both ended the policy and fairly allowed for people to make responsible plans for their future knowing it would sunset rather than marooning them away from their family and property.

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The process IS that their visas must be renewed. So they didn't get screwed. The just didn't get picked up for another season. Now they can take their experience learned here and can contribute in a beneficial way to their country.

If they want permanent residency, they need something other than an H-1B.

Assuming your visa renewal was automatic was and is a big problem of the problem.

Best Trump here.

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Hey you are right. I hadn't thought of it that way.

It is not anyone's fault if they bought expensive houses and cars on a TEMPORARY work visa. They should have waited until they got a green card which is more permanent.

I can foresee a housing market crash though with many H1Bs in places like SF, Seattle, Dallas, Atlanta forcing to flee. Prices will crash but make housing more affordable for Americans too.

Lots of impacts.

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They can sell their house remotely and have their wares shipped to them.

I posted in another thread a while back but this happened to a friend of mine, H1-B from Jordan, who was told her visa may not be renewed. She planned accordingly and was indeed denied re-entry.

Even if you went to Mexico is was subject to review and could be denied.

There is literally nothing new here except if they are denied they are home instead of Ciudad Juarez.

---

They aren't being denied. Their appointment is being pushed for 6 months.

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Yes, but the point is that their visas are temporary so if they make purchases assuming permanency, it is their own fault.

They are interviewing to ask for a renewal as their "contract" for work permit is ending. US can at that point just say no and it would not even be unethical.

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My point wasn't about stuff. It was changing rules mid -stream to be more punitive against legal folks.

Ok i get it, we don't like H1s or the H1 program. Government changing the rules mid-stream against those following the law just stinks. It's unnecessarily punitive.

This pleases the crowd, but these seem like half-assed measures that aren't thought through.
**** like this is why its easier to be illegal.

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Which rules in particular are being changed midstream against legal folks?

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Deciding to incorporate social media checks going further back in time, which specifically lead to a 6-month delay in reviewing and renewing Visas. This is fine for new Visas, but the OP talks about H1 renewals, so these folks were previously reviewed.

This is deliberately punitive against people who were previously approved and followed the legal process. I don't like the idea of government intentionally ****ing people over.

Stop putting people in government purgatory.

deddog said:

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infinity ag said:

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deddog said:

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infinity ag said:

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deddog said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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infinity ag said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Malibu said:

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I can feel sympathy for the plight of these folks as individuals. They made a life here, followed the process, and got screwed. There should have been more humanity in a process that ended this cleanly and not stranding people with no agency into a nightmare. That doesn't mean backfilling foreign labor for high skilled US jobs is a good policy. We could have both ended the policy and fairly allowed for people to make responsible plans for their future knowing it would sunset rather than marooning them away from their family and property.

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The process IS that their visas must be renewed. So they didn't get screwed. The just didn't get picked up for another season. Now they can take their experience learned here and can contribute in a beneficial way to their country.

If they want permanent residency, they need something other than an H-1B.

Assuming your visa renewal was automatic was and is a big problem of the problem.

Best Trump here.

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Hey you are right. I hadn't thought of it that way.

It is not anyone's fault if they bought expensive houses and cars on a TEMPORARY work visa. They should have waited until they got a green card which is more permanent.

I can foresee a housing market crash though with many H1Bs in places like SF, Seattle, Dallas, Atlanta forcing to flee. Prices will crash but make housing more affordable for Americans too.

Lots of impacts.

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They can sell their house remotely and have their wares shipped to them.

I posted in another thread a while back but this happened to a friend of mine, H1-B from Jordan, who was told her visa may not be renewed. She planned accordingly and was indeed denied re-entry.

Even if you went to Mexico is was subject to review and could be denied.

There is literally nothing new here except if they are denied they are home instead of Ciudad Juarez.

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They aren't being denied. Their appointment is being pushed for 6 months.

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Yes, but the point is that their visas are temporary so if they make purchases assuming permanency, it is their own fault.

They are interviewing to ask for a renewal as their "contract" for work permit is ending. US can at that point just say no and it would not even be unethical.

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My point wasn't about stuff. It was changing rules mid -stream to be more punitive against legal folks.

Ok i get it, we don't like H1s or the H1 program. Government changing the rules mid-stream against those following the law just stinks. It's unnecessarily punitive.

This pleases the crowd, but these seem like half-assed measures that aren't thought through.
**** like this is why its easier to be illegal.

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Which rules in particular are being changed midstream against legal folks?

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Deciding to incorporate social media checks going further back in time, which specifically lead to a 6-month delay in reviewing and renewing Visas. This is fine for new Visas, but the OP talks about H1 renewals, so these folks were previously reviewed.

This is deliberately punitive against people who were previously approved and followed the legal process. I don't like the idea of government intentionally ****ing people over.

Stop putting people in government purgatory.

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I don' think the social media checks are for people with existing visas. It is for renewals, no? Please correct me if I got that wrong.

Here is how I look at it. An H1B is given for 6 years. The person is vetted and given a visa for 6 years. After the visa expires, if the person wants a renewal, it is okay for the US to change the rules of vetting and make it stricter or less strict based on the situation. This would apply for brand new visas also.

I don't agree with you that they are getting screwed on renewals just because years ago they got it in a different situation. There is no grandfathering in this situation.

What may be slightly wrong/unfair is if a 6 year visa was approved with certain rules, and then the Government changes the rules and asks the approved person to be judged by the new rules. But then maybe not.

Remember people get screwed by corporations all the time. I have as well. People get hired, the get great reviews, the CEO wants his bonus, so they put the guy on PIP to fire him. Amazon does that all the time, it's called PIP-factory for that reason.

Why do you object when the government does it but are okay with corporations do it? I actually trust the government more than a corporation. At least I can vote a crooked President out. Can I get a crooked CEO out?

Those are tech jobs. They should be able to WFH in India and not miss a beat.

This lines up with the reason so many foreign Aggie students aren't going home for the holidays.

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oh no said:

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Malibu said:

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There should have been more humanity in a process that ended this cleanly and not stranding people with no agency into a nightmare.

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humanity? stranding them into a nightmare? at home? sounds like their interviews were pushed back a few months.

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Lots of downstream impacts. I am sure Trump and/or team is orchestrating it that way.

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If H-1B holders are outside the country when their visa expires, she said, their company cannot file for an extension and will likely have to start the visa application from scratch and risk incurring the new $100,000 fee.

"No company is paying that," she said.

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So all they do is keep pushing back the interview date on one pretext or other.

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You post about this crap on a daily basis, but now you don't like it? Maybe I am reading this wrong, but you sound a little sad now.

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infinity ag said:

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oh no said:

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Malibu said:

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There should have been more humanity in a process that ended this cleanly and not stranding people with no agency into a nightmare.

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humanity? stranding them into a nightmare? at home? sounds like their interviews were pushed back a few months.

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Lots of downstream impacts. I am sure Trump and/or team is orchestrating it that way.

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If H-1B holders are outside the country when their visa expires, she said, their company cannot file for an extension and will likely have to start the visa application from scratch and risk incurring the new $100,000 fee.

"No company is paying that," she said.

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So all they do is keep pushing back the interview date on one pretext or other.

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You post about this crap on a daily basis, but now you don't like it? Maybe I am reading this wrong, but you sound a little sad now.

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My friend, are you okay? Had a rough day at work or something?

Friendly advice, stick to Baseball.

H1B + DEI + Indian nepotism pushed a ton of white millenial men out of tech roles at the time when those roles offered extreme financial upward mobility.

There's result for this demographic was a career dead end and need to restart in a less lucrative / exciting field.

The result for these companies was cheap obedient drones. They got to scale cheaply, but shot themselves in the foot by ostracizing the demographic that best merges competence, creativity, and ambition.

The nation got a critical sector whose bulk is sinking into mediocrity and a cohort of boss babes who maternalize digital town squares.


TLDR: boo hoo for the Indians who may lose cushy jobs and homes which should have belonged to Americans in the first place.

deddog said:

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infinity ag said:

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deddog said:

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infinity ag said:

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deddog said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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infinity ag said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Malibu said:

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I can feel sympathy for the plight of these folks as individuals. They made a life here, followed the process, and got screwed. There should have been more humanity in a process that ended this cleanly and not stranding people with no agency into a nightmare. That doesn't mean backfilling foreign labor for high skilled US jobs is a good policy. We could have both ended the policy and fairly allowed for people to make responsible plans for their future knowing it would sunset rather than marooning them away from their family and property.

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The process IS that their visas must be renewed. So they didn't get screwed. The just didn't get picked up for another season. Now they can take their experience learned here and can contribute in a beneficial way to their country.

If they want permanent residency, they need something other than an H-1B.

Assuming your visa renewal was automatic was and is a big problem of the problem.

Best Trump here.

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Hey you are right. I hadn't thought of it that way.

It is not anyone's fault if they bought expensive houses and cars on a TEMPORARY work visa. They should have waited until they got a green card which is more permanent.

I can foresee a housing market crash though with many H1Bs in places like SF, Seattle, Dallas, Atlanta forcing to flee. Prices will crash but make housing more affordable for Americans too.

Lots of impacts.

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They can sell their house remotely and have their wares shipped to them.

I posted in another thread a while back but this happened to a friend of mine, H1-B from Jordan, who was told her visa may not be renewed. She planned accordingly and was indeed denied re-entry.

Even if you went to Mexico is was subject to review and could be denied.

There is literally nothing new here except if they are denied they are home instead of Ciudad Juarez.

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They aren't being denied. Their appointment is being pushed for 6 months.

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Yes, but the point is that their visas are temporary so if they make purchases assuming permanency, it is their own fault.

They are interviewing to ask for a renewal as their "contract" for work permit is ending. US can at that point just say no and it would not even be unethical.

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My point wasn't about stuff. It was changing rules mid -stream to be more punitive against legal folks.

Ok i get it, we don't like H1s or the H1 program. Government changing the rules mid-stream against those following the law just stinks. It's unnecessarily punitive.

This pleases the crowd, but these seem like half-assed measures that aren't thought through.
**** like this is why its easier to be illegal.

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Which rules in particular are being changed midstream against legal folks?

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Deciding to incorporate social media checks going further back in time, which specifically lead to a 6-month delay in reviewing and renewing Visas. This is fine for new Visas, but the OP talks about H1 renewals, so these folks were previously reviewed.

This is deliberately punitive against people who were previously approved and followed the legal process. I don't like the idea of government intentionally ****ing people over.

Stop putting people in government purgatory.

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Bull**** to the max. You don't think social media was fair game? Are serious? I even carefully engaged when in Europe and other locales over the past 20+ years.

This is government actually enforcing the rules rather than rubber stamping.

If you need a real estate agent to put a house up due to u planned for circumstances, than I am sure someone can help.

Malibu said:

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I can feel sympathy for the plight of these folks as individuals. They made a life here, followed the process, and got screwed. There should have been more humanity in a process that ended this cleanly and not stranding people with no agency into a nightmare. That doesn't mean backfilling foreign labor for high skilled US jobs is a good policy. We could have both ended the policy and fairly allowed for people to make responsible plans for their future knowing it would sunset rather than marooning them away from their family and property.

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I feel no sympathy, as they likely uprooted an American Citizen IT worker out of their job to get into the company, and I can guarantee they had no sympathy for that American worker while taking their job from them and sliding into their position.

Bunch of US jobs going to India. They'll be fine.

Malibu said:

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I can feel sympathy for the plight of these folks as individuals. They made a life here, followed the process, and got screwed. There should have been more humanity in a process that ended this cleanly and not stranding people with no agency into a nightmare. That doesn't mean backfilling foreign labor for high skilled US jobs is a good policy. We could have both ended the policy and fairly allowed for people to make responsible plans for their future knowing it would sunset rather than marooning them away from their family and property.

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**** that. **** happens.

Ramdiesel said:

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Malibu said:

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I can feel sympathy for the plight of these folks as individuals. They made a life here, followed the process, and got screwed. There should have been more humanity in a process that ended this cleanly and not stranding people with no agency into a nightmare. That doesn't mean backfilling foreign labor for high skilled US jobs is a good policy. We could have both ended the policy and fairly allowed for people to make responsible plans for their future knowing it would sunset rather than marooning them away from their family and property.

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I feel no sympathy, as they likely uprooted an American Citizen IT worker out of their job to get into the company, and I can guarantee they had no sympathy for that American worker while taking their job from them and sliding into their position.

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Yep

I doubt that the person they replaced got a single thought about them when they were replaced by these scrubs.

Bye-ee!

MouthBQ98 said:

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I don't think we should be unreasonable to those who have diligently followed the lawful process in the past and met all the conditions as agreed to at the time, but I don't have a problem with narrowing or curtailing the process into the future with fair notice.

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Exactly.

It's not their fault things changed. And, yes, we need to make it extremely hard for companies to give out H1Bs.

To me, any company trying to give out H1Bs needs to first offer the job to an equally qualified American, and only then, if there are no Americans that have applied, interviewed, and rejected the position, can said company offer an H1B.

So we cannot modify our immigration policy because it might inconvenience or hurt the feelz of non-citizens?

Our priority is our citizens. Visas are a privilege that is granted, subject to change and subject to revocation.

These guys knew the risk. If they didn't, they do now and can spread the word.

All I do these days is type in "H1B" in Google and I get to read fun popcorn stuff.
Our crooked US companies run by greedy unscrupulous CEOs are having to earn their multi-million dollar bonuses. "Let's hire H1Bs!" is no longer an easy option. Next comes offshoring, once companies move everything there.

MOAR! MOAR! Let's keep on winning. Trump is a Boa Constrictor - he is quietly squeezing the life out of H1B.

US firms scramble to bring back employees stranded in India as visa stamping delays mount
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/nri/work/us-firms-scramble-to-bring-back-employees-stranded-in-india-as-visa-stamping-delays-mount/articleshow/126096884.cms

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American companies are seeking solutions for employees stranded in India. Delays in visa stamping, following stricter social media checks, are causing significant disruptions. Some employees are allowed to work remotely from India. Others are advised to return to the US immediately to avoid visa expiry. This situation impacts workforce planning and project delivery.

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New Delhi: US companies are exploring ways to get back their employees who are stuck in India amid delays in visa stamping after the Trump administration began strictly scrutinising social media activities of applicants.

Many of them have approached immigration consultants to try and arrange for early interview slots where stamping is needed, while some have allowed employees to work out of India until they get their passports stamped again, said experts. Employees who still have time for renewals are being asked to return immediately.

Even if the stamp in the passport has expired, foreigners can still live and work in the US if they have valid immigration status; but to re-enter the country after the expiry of the visa, they must get it stamped again at a US embassy or consulate. Indian professionals, most of whom are in the US on H-1B visas, and their dependents often combine their holidays in December with getting the visa renewed and making a trip back home.

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Since the US has started strictly enforcing social media reviews of applicants starting December 15, many visa interviews have been pushed to next year, between March and June. This delay is causing disruption across workforce planning, project delivery and client commitments for many companies, especially in the technology sector, said experts.

"US employers are exploring possibilities of earlier appointments or giving them (employees) the option of remote working," said Rajneesh Pathak, founder and chief executive of investment advisory firm Global North. Pathak said his firm has been approached by some companies to help employees stuck in India.

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These folks shouldn't be surprised.

Back in January, I saw a warning from a legal firm that foreign employees working in the US may be delayed if they traveled for work or vacation. The message was that gaining approval to return would require an in-person visit to the consulate and that appointments could be delayed.

That was 12 months ago.

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I don't think we should be unreasonable to those who have diligently followed the lawful process in the past and met all the conditions as agreed to at the time, but I don't have a problem with narrowing or curtailing the process into the future with fair notice.

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Exactly.

It's not their fault things changed. And, yes, we need to make it extremely hard for companies to give out H1Bs.

To me, any company trying to give out H1Bs needs to first offer the job to an equally qualified American, and only then, if there are no Americans that have applied, interviewed, and rejected the position, can said company offer an H1B.

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Nothing changed.
An H1B is for a certain time period, 3 year or 6 years. After that it needs to be renewed through another approval process. That is when Trump is making it harder. He is NOT (yet) pulling out existing H1Bs whose validity is not expiring and making them leave. I hope he will one day.

So the H1Bs followed the lawful process and so is Trump. He is adding more vetting for people whose validities are expiring soon. Sounds fair to me, just like companies hire and then fire people claiming "business changed".

And what you say later is already happening but corporations are being corrupt about it. They fake-interview 3-4 Americans, all the time having an H1B already in the job whose validity is expiring. I have been fake-interviewed so many times. One sympathetic interviewer even told me not to have hopes for that job as there was someone already in the position!
At a company 15 years ago, I applied to an internal job. I emailed HR asking who the hiring manager was so I could approach. She emailed me saying not to worry, that job posting "was for immigration purposes". So it wasn't even a real job posting!

These crooked companies have gamed the system and politicians have allowed it. Indians have made use of it. Everyone won except the American people. That needs to STOP.

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MouthBQ98 said:

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I don't think we should be unreasonable to those who have diligently followed the lawful process in the past and met all the conditions as agreed to at the time, but I don't have a problem with narrowing or curtailing the process into the future with fair notice.

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Exactly.

It's not their fault things changed. And, yes, we need to make it extremely hard for companies to give out H1Bs.

To me, any company trying to give out H1Bs needs to first offer the job to an equally qualified American, and only then, if there are no Americans that have applied, interviewed, and rejected the position, can said company offer an H1B.

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Nothing changed.
An H1B is for a certain time period, 3 year or 6 years. After that it needs to be renewed through another approval process. That is when Trump is making it harder. He is NOT (yet) pulling out existing H1Bs whose validity is not expiring and making them leave. I hope he will one day.

So the H1Bs followed the lawful process and so is Trump. He is adding more vetting for people whose validities are expiring soon. Sounds fair to me, just like companies hire and then fire people claiming "business changed".

And what you say later is already happening but corporations are being corrupt about it. They fake-interview 3-4 Americans, all the time having an H1B already in the job whose validity is expiring. I have been fake-interviewed so many times. One sympathetic interviewer even told me not to have hopes for that job as there was someone already in the position!
At a company 15 years ago, I applied to an internal job. I emailed HR asking who the hiring manager was so I could approach. She emailed me saying not to worry, that job posting "was for immigration purposes". So it wasn't even a real job posting!

These crooked companies have gamed the system and politicians have allowed it. Indians have made use of it. Everyone won except the American people. That needs to STOP.

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That's eff'ed on every effing level. I'm sorry that happened to you and is happening to Americans who are equally, if not more, qualified.

Yes, it needs to stop. Now to get the corporate overlords and their political puppets to stop hurting Americans all for more money, of which they'll never even be able to spend in multiple lifetimes.

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These folks shouldn't be surprised.

Back in January, I saw a warning from a legal firm that foreign employees working in the US may be delayed if they traveled for work or vacation. The message was that gaining approval to return would require an in-person visit to the consulate and that appointments could be delayed.

That was 12 months ago.

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All these years, they could go to Mex and come back. Now they have to go back to their own countries. So 71% have to go back to India. That is where Trump is adding delays.

To be honest, "checking social media posting" is nonsense. We all know that. The internet lets you post in different personas that you would not in real life. We do it here as well. The SM checking is just a roadblock added to delay things so the US employer fires the H1B worker which then renders the H1B visa interview meaningless (as they don't have a job in the US to go to). Brilliant!

Read the comments below.

WORLDWIDE ALERT FOR H-1B AND H-4 VISA APPLICANTS
 
Beginning December 15, the Department of State expanded online presence reviews to ALL H-1B and H-4 applicants as part of standard visa screening. This vetting is being conducted globally for ALL applicants of ALL nationalities… pic.twitter.com/qMrMrOvqy0

— U.S. Embassy India (@USAndIndia) December 22, 2025

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infinity ag said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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MouthBQ98 said:

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I don't think we should be unreasonable to those who have diligently followed the lawful process in the past and met all the conditions as agreed to at the time, but I don't have a problem with narrowing or curtailing the process into the future with fair notice.

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Exactly.

It's not their fault things changed. And, yes, we need to make it extremely hard for companies to give out H1Bs.

To me, any company trying to give out H1Bs needs to first offer the job to an equally qualified American, and only then, if there are no Americans that have applied, interviewed, and rejected the position, can said company offer an H1B.

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Nothing changed.
An H1B is for a certain time period, 3 year or 6 years. After that it needs to be renewed through another approval process. That is when Trump is making it harder. He is NOT (yet) pulling out existing H1Bs whose validity is not expiring and making them leave. I hope he will one day.

So the H1Bs followed the lawful process and so is Trump. He is adding more vetting for people whose validities are expiring soon. Sounds fair to me, just like companies hire and then fire people claiming "business changed".

And what you say later is already happening but corporations are being corrupt about it. They fake-interview 3-4 Americans, all the time having an H1B already in the job whose validity is expiring. I have been fake-interviewed so many times. One sympathetic interviewer even told me not to have hopes for that job as there was someone already in the position!
At a company 15 years ago, I applied to an internal job. I emailed HR asking who the hiring manager was so I could approach. She emailed me saying not to worry, that job posting "was for immigration purposes". So it wasn't even a real job posting!

These crooked companies have gamed the system and politicians have allowed it. Indians have made use of it. Everyone won except the American people. That needs to STOP.

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That's eff'ed on every effing level. I'm sorry that happened to you and is happening to Americans who are equally, if not more, qualified.

Yes, it needs to stop. Now to get the corporate overlords and their political puppets to stop hurting Americans all for more money, of which they'll never even be able to spend in multiple lifetimes.

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Yes it is. Which is why I go on and on about it. It is a scam of Megalodonic proportions. Not many people on this board know about it because they the average age group here is around 55 with the younger members around 40 and the oldest ones around 80. This scam happens mainly in high-paying tech industry but extends to other industries as well. The solution is to stop the scam and bring fairness, not to say "go do HVAC" like the advice we sometimes get on this board.

While I suffered through this for 25 years, I am okay now as I make money through investments. But my kids are struggling and everyone's are as well. We have sold out the future of our children by starving them of opportunities and gaslighting them that they are lazy and stupid.

That is why I supported Trump. I don't care about his Epstein issues as long as he fixes this problem and other problems that affect us all. He is on track to do so as far as I can tell.

Skipped both pages because I don't care if they get stranded. The Indians and Chinese have abused this program for years.

And as I have said a dozen times on this thread, the majority, probably vast majority, of H1B visas are fraudulent. And when I say that, what I specifically mean is this. If you have ever dealt directly with issuing or renewing an H1B then you know that employers are not meeting the State Dept requirements and therefore freezing out American citizens from an opportunity being given to a foreigner.

F that.

If you have some time watch this.

I am sure they sold him out and will hired a 25 year old clueless H1B with a fake degree instead.

Moral: Get into investing, don't rely on a job. Corporates want to suck your blood and discard you. Enjoy the one life that God has given you.

infinity ag said:

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All I do these days is type in "H1B" in Google and I get to read fun popcorn stuff.
Our crooked US companies run by greedy unscrupulous CEOs are having to earn their multi-million dollar bonuses. "Let's hire H1Bs!" is no longer an easy option. Next comes offshoring, once companies move everything there.

MOAR! MOAR! Let's keep on winning. Trump is a Boa Constrictor - he is quietly squeezing the life out of H1B.

US firms scramble to bring back employees stranded in India as visa stamping delays mount
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/nri/work/us-firms-scramble-to-bring-back-employees-stranded-in-india-as-visa-stamping-delays-mount/articleshow/126096884.cms

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Synopsis
American companies are seeking solutions for employees stranded in India. Delays in visa stamping, following stricter social media checks, are causing significant disruptions. Some employees are allowed to work remotely from India. Others are advised to return to the US immediately to avoid visa expiry. This situation impacts workforce planning and project delivery.

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New Delhi: US companies are exploring ways to get back their employees who are stuck in India amid delays in visa stamping after the Trump administration began strictly scrutinising social media activities of applicants.

Many of them have approached immigration consultants to try and arrange for early interview slots where stamping is needed, while some have allowed employees to work out of India until they get their passports stamped again, said experts. Employees who still have time for renewals are being asked to return immediately.

Even if the stamp in the passport has expired, foreigners can still live and work in the US if they have valid immigration status; but to re-enter the country after the expiry of the visa, they must get it stamped again at a US embassy or consulate. Indian professionals, most of whom are in the US on H-1B visas, and their dependents often combine their holidays in December with getting the visa renewed and making a trip back home.

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Since the US has started strictly enforcing social media reviews of applicants starting December 15, many visa interviews have been pushed to next year, between March and June. This delay is causing disruption across workforce planning, project delivery and client commitments for many companies, especially in the technology sector, said experts.

"US employers are exploring possibilities of earlier appointments or giving them (employees) the option of remote working," said Rajneesh Pathak, founder and chief executive of investment advisory firm Global North. Pathak said his firm has been approached by some companies to help employees stuck in India.

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Hire American and this wouldn't happen.

We see the ads every Christmas season. "Shop local, buy local." Well they should hire "local" too.

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As of September, Amazon, Meta and Microsoft were the three largest sponsors of H-1B workers

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This is the real problem.
Instead of going after individuals, Trump needs to get after the companies doing this.

Sucks for people stuck, with family back in the US.

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Base rate fallacy. Those are also some of the largest companies in the world and focused primarily on software and technology, so it would make sense they'd have really high counts. What you should really be looking for is percentage of workforce.