Story out of Australia about two things:
1 - massive forgery of Indian credentials
2 - Australia starting to accept Indian credentials being as good as Australian ones

Apparently the Albanese Government recently decided that if you got a medical degree in India, you can come practice in Australia.

Australia definitely has a shortage of doctors, just like the US. Especially in the Outback.

Australia has also made a lot of money off of bringing in Indian students to get them Australian credentials by studying in Australia. So, I wonder if this move will kill off that cash cow for Australia - if Indian students no longer need Aussie credentials.

In my line of work, I've noticed that we're accepting Indian credentials more readily now and there are a small number of exceptions but, by and large, the Indians we're hiring suck.

IG guy sums it up here:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DSlwQJdj-sZ/?igsh=MThnY3EzbGE1ZWRxeQ%253D%253D

Cromagnum said:

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Bad news for the Aussies then. Every single Indian doctor I've come across has been a worthless quack on a power trip.

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Were they credentialed in the US or in India?

akm91 said:

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Cromagnum said:

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Bad news for the Aussies then. Every single Indian doctor I've come across has been a worthless quack on a power trip.

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Were they credentialed in the US or in India?

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Don't know. Track record still holds.

Cromagnum said:

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akm91 said:

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Cromagnum said:

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Bad news for the Aussies then. Every single Indian doctor I've come across has been a worthless quack on a power trip.

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Were they credentialed in the US or in India?

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Don't know. Track record still holds.

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I have opposite experience but they were credentialed in the US. Then again, we do our research before selecting our doctors.

akm91 said:

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Cromagnum said:

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akm91 said:

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Cromagnum said:

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Bad news for the Aussies then. Every single Indian doctor I've come across has been a worthless quack on a power trip.

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Were they credentialed in the US or in India?

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Don't know. Track record still holds.

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I have opposite experience but they were credentialed in the US. Then again, we do our research before selecting our doctors.

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For me it's Egyptian doctors I avoid.
Bad experience as a kid in Saudi Arabia and only so-so experience as an adult in Australia.

akm91 said:

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Cromagnum said:

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akm91 said:

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Cromagnum said:

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Bad news for the Aussies then. Every single Indian doctor I've come across has been a worthless quack on a power trip.

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Were they credentialed in the US or in India?

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Don't know. Track record still holds.

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I have opposite experience but they were credentialed in the US. Then again, we do our research before selecting our doctors.

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For specialists, I will not go to anyone not certified here, but seek white American males when I can. For GPs I seldom have an option as the vast majority in my network are foreign.

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Cromagnum said:

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akm91 said:

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Cromagnum said:

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Bad news for the Aussies then. Every single Indian doctor I've come across has been a worthless quack on a power trip.

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Were they credentialed in the US or in India?

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Don't know. Track record still holds.

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I have opposite experience but they were credentialed in the US. Then again, we do our research before selecting our doctors.

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This I what I was going to say. I'm in charge of care for my parents who are both very medically complex, and we've had really good experiences with Indian physicians.

There was a big scandal in India a decade or so ago over fake pilot licenses.

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Cromagnum said:

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Cromagnum said:

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Bad news for the Aussies then. Every single Indian doctor I've come across has been a worthless quack on a power trip.

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Were they credentialed in the US or in India?

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Don't know. Track record still holds.

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I have opposite experience but they were credentialed in the US. Then again, we do our research before selecting our doctors.

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This I what I was going to say. I'm in charge of care for my parents who are both very medically complex, and we've had really good experiences with Indian physicians.

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They don't think outside the box and are basically drones of the system

I have had good experiences with Indian doctors. We are generally healthy, thank God, so not many doctor visits. The ones who come here from India are top notch unlike the tech immigrants post 2010. The reason could be that there is no greedy corporation behind them pulling them in like Amazon, Microsoft, Google. Doctors come on their own and only the good ones survive. No place to hide.

Indian doctors - Good, some very good
Indian Tech Engineers - Pre 2010 - Very Good, Post 2010 - Very Very Bad.

Cromagnum said:

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Bad news for the Aussies then. Every single Indian doctor I've come across has been a worthless quack on a power trip.

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That is weird. I am; unfortunately, a heavy consumer for more than a few medical disciplines and my Indian doctors are top notch. In fact they slow the doc visit down to ask meaningful questions that helps to clue them in better to my needs, manners are proper, and they talk to me…..not at me. My anesthetists have been good…..stick me right the first time. Yeah a lady indian nurse I screamed at one time, but other that I have had great experiences.

The most common surname for doctors in the United States is Patel.

In taking care of my father for years and years, I ran into good, and bad, of all races/genders. Not able to pinpoint a single bad group, overall.....




.....save for the Dutch!!!! </madface>

HollywoodBQ is a good, sane, logical poster. Looks like this thread isn't going the way he expected.

But maybe he was actually talking about the fraud that happens in India, rather than the Indian doctors we encounter in the US. Two different things.

go watch any video of food products being made in india and tell me if you want a doctor to be credentialed in america.

Cromagnum said:

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Cromagnum said:

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Cromagnum said:

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Bad news for the Aussies then. Every single Indian doctor I've come across has been a worthless quack on a power trip.

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Were they credentialed in the US or in India?

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Don't know. Track record still holds.

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I have opposite experience but they were credentialed in the US. Then again, we do our research before selecting our doctors.

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For specialists, I will not go to anyone not certified here, but seek white American males when I can. For GPs I seldom have an option as the vast majority in my network are foreign.

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It's getting harder and harder to find white American male docs.

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In taking care of my father for years and years, I ran into good, and bad, of all races/genders. Not able to pinpoint a single bad group, overall.....




.....save for the Dutch!!!! </madface>

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I'm in Sint Maarten right now (the Dutch side of the island) so this REALLY hits close to home...

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BigRobSA said:

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In taking care of my father for years and years, I ran into good, and bad, of all races/genders. Not able to pinpoint a single bad group, overall.....




.....save for the Dutch!!!! </madface>

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I'm in Sint Maarten right now (the Dutch side of the island) so this REALLY hits close to home...

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Don't let their inferior culture corrupt you.

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Cromagnum said:

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Cromagnum said:

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Cromagnum said:

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Bad news for the Aussies then. Every single Indian doctor I've come across has been a worthless quack on a power trip.

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Were they credentialed in the US or in India?

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Don't know. Track record still holds.

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I have opposite experience but they were credentialed in the US. Then again, we do our research before selecting our doctors.

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For specialists, I will not go to anyone not certified here, but seek white American males when I can. For GPs I seldom have an option as the vast majority in my network are foreign.

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It's getting harder and harder to find white American male docs.

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Unicorns.

Substitute Asian males second, then Asian females. If you can get a white female or Hispanic that graduated before 2015, I also think that is a safe bet.

Any minority graduating after Obama took over is very risky.

My current GP is an Indian female internist. Been with her for 20 years.

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Ag with kids said:

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BigRobSA said:

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In taking care of my father for years and years, I ran into good, and bad, of all races/genders. Not able to pinpoint a single bad group, overall.....




.....save for the Dutch!!!! </madface>

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I'm in Sint Maarten right now (the Dutch side of the island) so this REALLY hits close to home...

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Don't let their inferior culture corrupt you.

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This!


Watch your 6, homeslice!

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Cromagnum said:

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Bad news for the Aussies then. Every single Indian doctor I've come across has been a worthless quack on a power trip.

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Were they credentialed in the US or in India?

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Don't know. Track record still holds.

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I have opposite experience but they were credentialed in the US. Then again, we do our research before selecting our doctors.

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For specialists, I will not go to anyone not certified here, but seek white American males when I can. For GPs I seldom have an option as the vast majority in my network are foreign.

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It's getting harder and harder to find white American male docs.

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Thanks to DEI discrimination…..its for sure no longer merit based

I saw the thread title and thought it was about Elizabeth Warren.

An Indian GP missed some pretty obvious signs of ovarian cancer on my mom. Basically lost 6 months and any chance to get in front of it. My mom ultimately was in so much discomfort over a weekend that she ended up in the ER. They scanned her and discovered a grapefruit size tumor and multiple liters of ascites that had to be drained off.

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An Indian GP missed some pretty obvious signs of ovarian cancer on my mom. This lady was basically running a high volume shop to just churn patients thru.

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That's just healthcare in America now. You are not a person. You are a number. It's all about maximizing revenue and "throughput." There is less and less time being given to doctors and nurses to actually talk to you about what's going on and (more importantly) less time for them to actually think about you.

We found a GP that absolutely does not run her practice that way.

That's good. Increasingly rare nowadays as corporations have bought out much of the private practice industry.

Yes. The only downside is you better be prepared to wait for up to an hour after your appointment time, but knowing the reason why (she's being thorough with her patients), it's so worth it

Credentials from countries like India are a big problem but the credentials being awarded by US medical schools and the American College of Surgeons should also scare the hell out of you.

This interview with Dr. Richard Bosshardt really exposes the rot in medical schools and the deep erosion of standards in medical schools and hospitals specifically as it applies to training and certifying surgeons.

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Cromagnum said:

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akm91 said:

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Cromagnum said:

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Bad news for the Aussies then. Every single Indian doctor I've come across has been a worthless quack on a power trip.

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Were they credentialed in the US or in India?

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Don't know. Track record still holds.

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I have opposite experience but they were credentialed in the US. Then again, we do our research before selecting our doctors.

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For specialists, I will not go to anyone not certified here, but seek white American males when I can. For GPs I seldom have an option as the vast majority in my network are foreign.

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It's getting harder and harder to find white American male docs.

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Unicorns.

Substitute Asian males second, then Asian females. If you can get a white female or Hispanic that graduated before 2015, I also think that is a safe bet.

Any minority graduating after Obama took over is very risky.

My current GP is an Indian female internist. Been with her for 20 years.

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Yes, the quality of Indians in the America SHARPLY dipped after 2010 (Obama era). The ones who came here in the last century and even the first decade of this century were great to good and always contributed without making asses of themselves. From 2010 onward, we started importing every trashy person we could find in India to make up DEI numbers.

I work with Endocrinologists and the Indian doctors I work with are all top notch. On average they are also more friendly than the white docs

Vitani said:

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The most common surname for doctors in the United States is Patel.

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Are they converting motels to health clinics?

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Vitani said:

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The most common surname for doctors in the United States is Patel.

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Are they converting motels to health clinics?

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Indian Hindus have millennia old educational values. Which is why they do well wherever they go. If you know any, talk to them about it. The parents come in as immigrants, and likely were too poor to get a good education so they work in a motel and save money to have their own motel after decades. But what about their kids? They are all highly educated, and end up in top notch schools like Stanford, MIT, Harvard, Princeton and start tech and healthcare companies or become well paid doctors. All thanks to their far-sighted parents.

So Patel the Motel Owner's kid is Dr Patel, the heart surgeon.
Something to think about.