Southern California flooding event

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Newsom and Bass are on the clock regarding emergency management as Southern California is under flash flood watches and warnings for the next few days.
Could be catastrophic mudslides and flooding for that area

https://www.foxweather.com/weather-news/high-risk-excessive-rainfall-los-angeles-area-christmas-eve
Aggie95
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would be nice if they could do a good job of collecting this water, but in the end, they will be back in drought scenario inside of 2 weeks
Maroon Dawn
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Gavin is on the job!

He has immediately summoned the cabinet and all his chiefs and is coordinating with all major state agencies to address the biggest issue:

how to blame this all on Trump
jkag89
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. . .how to blame this all on Trump

And Globe Warming, er um, human induced Climate Change.
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I'm sure disaster magnate Newsome will save the day
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Well, at least California is not on fire for once.
Logos Stick
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I'm sure a black lesbian is in charge of handling this disaster. They are in good hands.
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Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
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rocky the dog said:




Careful, the Rook Sock is going to say this didn't happen and accuse you of falsifying events
JB!98
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Rudebaeger said:



Well, at least California is not on fire for once.


Yet.
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Rudebaeger said:



Well, at least California is not on fire for once.


Most California thing would be a wild fire, plus mass flooding.
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Extreme weather in California.

I'm sure the answer is more legislation. More EVs. More High Speed Rail. And definitely more taxes.

Besides, it never rains in Southern California
Malibu
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Aggie95 said:

would be nice if they could do a good job of collecting this water, but in the end, they will be back in drought scenario inside of 2 weeks

https://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/CurrentMap/StateDroughtMonitor.aspx?CA

Malibu
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Having grown up around Malibu, fires and floods are just part and parcel of living in a chaparral biome. Fires and floods have been part of this ecosystem well before people got here, and it is simply man's arrogance to think that we can tame an ecosystem where fire is actually a prerequisite for new growth:

Fire Ecology
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In Southern California, fire has been part of our landscape for millions for years and has played an important role in shaping habitats and plant communities. Many California native plants have adapted strategies to survive fire and some even require elements such as heat, smoke, or charred wood in order to germinate. It's estimated that more than 200 species are obligate seeders, meaning that they require post-fire conditions to germinate (Keeley 2017). The cycle of change brought on by fire is known as secondary ecological succession. Embracing this cycle, as part of the constant flux of our native ecosystems offers new ways of observing, appreciating, and connecting with California native plants.


The rains will come and in the weeks to come where I live will look like a lush paradise. Then the rains will stop, the green will turn brown, and all of that new growth will become fuel for the next fire event. It doesn't even need humans to behave irresponsibly. In the Canyons of the Santa Monica Mountains, any Santa Ana wind event with dry tinder can actually force fast air to move through a narrow slot, and the friction alone causes fires to naturally occur.
MelvinUdall
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Good perspective, thank you for sharing…lived in Southern California in Mission Viejo as a teenager for short while and the Santa Ana winds are no joke.
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Problem is some of the areas don't have any vegetation after the fires so mudslides and flooding will be more prevalent.
Gilligan
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Garden Grove Argonaut here...
HollywoodBQ
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Marcellus ain't got no partners in The 818
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P.U.T.U said:

Problem is some of the areas don't have any vegetation after the fires so mudslides and flooding will be more prevalent.

When will Trump tone down the rhetoric!?!?!?!
ts5641
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It'll be bad. The media will blame Trump. The feds will bail them out. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
Malibu
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I doubt it will be too bad for structures, most codes have solid footing requirements. Although if 5 tons of earth moves, all bets are off. The main impact will likely be to sloped areas in and around the coast and mountains. I imagine Pacific Coast Highway around Santa Monica and the Palisades is going to be a muddy mess and potentially closed for awhile. Ditto the canyon roads (Topanga, Malibu, Kanan, Mulholland Drive) will be scattered with debris as they always are in rainy events. CalTrans will deal with it. FWIW, CalTrans is a competent agency.
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If we had ad hoc, pre hoc and post hoc, is there a pre hom and post hom to an ad hom?

Are pre homs and post homs good to go. Asking for a friend.
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Why did my post get deleted? I wanted a sincere perspective from an actual resident.

That was an odd thing to moderate.
Malibu
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Local opinion on Newsom - I am not the median voter and neither are my neighbors. I live in a fairly moderate community that is roughly 50/50 and mine and my neighboring precincts have voted for the Presidential winner in the last 6 elections. If we were the median voter, Newsom would have been out of office awhile ago.

In general median CA voter - High marks for twitter trolling & education, low marks on public safety.
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Interesting. Thanks. It really is unique, in that California is more diverse in thought, maybe more than any other State (though the city-centers carry the vote).

I have friends in some rural and NE areas, and they are extremely conservative. Had family in San Fran for a bit...and well...you know.

Gavin seems to really split the opinions down the middle, but always seems to come out ok.
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Psycho Bunny said:

Rudebaeger said:



Well, at least California is not on fire for once.


Most California thing would be a wild fire, plus mass flooding.

Flaming mudslides for the win.
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Psycho Bunny
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rab79 said:

Psycho Bunny said:

Rudebaeger said:



Well, at least California is not on fire for once.


Most California thing would be a wild fire, plus mass flooding.

Flaming mudslides for the win.

New meaning to liquid fire.

Side note: Flaming mudslides would be an awesome band name.
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