Wealth Tax in CA: Billionaires Plan to Flee

8,041 Views | 125 Replies | Last: 13 hrs ago by annie88
infinity ag
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Wealth tax is a bad idea. They will destroy the Silicon Valley (whatever is left of it).
Stupid Dems, all they can do is wreck and ruin.


Peter Thiel and Larry Page are preparing to flee California in case the state passes a billionaire wealth tax, report says
https://fortune.com/2025/12/27/peter-thiel-larry-page-california-state-billionaire-wealth-tax-ballot-proposal/



Tech billionaires are making plans to bail on California ahead a possible ballot measure that would tax their assets to help pay for healthcare.

Sources told the New York Times that venture capitalist Peter Thiel has explored spending more time outside California and opening an office for his Los Angeles-based personal investment firm, Thiel Capital, in another state.

Meanwhile, Google cofounder Larry Page has discussed leaving the state by year's end, sources told the Times, while three limited liability companies associated with him have filed documents to incorporate in Florida.

The Thiel Foundation and Google parent Alphabet didn't immediately respond to requests for comment. Representatives for Thiel and Page did not respond to the Times.
Tech investor Chamath Palihapitiya has warned on the risk of a wealth tax in California, saying it will eventually bankrupt the state.

"The inevitable outcome will be an exodus of the state's most talented entrepreneurs who can and will choose to build their companies in less regressive states," he posted on X on Monday. "All that will be left behind is the middle class. The tax burden, then, will fall to the middle class because after the 'richest' choose to leave, the middle class are both (a) the only ones left and (b) are the largest source of state income to extract taxes from."
On Friday, he posted in a reply to Sen. Ted Cruz, who urged him to move to Texas, that it's "under serious consideration."

Backers of the potential wealth tax must still gather enough signatures before it can qualify for the ballot in November 2026.
The proposal calls for California residents worth more than $1 billion to pay a one-time tax equivalent to 5% of their assets. According to the Bloomberg Billionaires Index, Page is worth $270 billion and Thiel is worth $27.2 billion.

The healthcare union pushing the measure, the Service Employees International Union-United Healthcare Workers West, estimated the wealth tax could raise $100 billion in revenue and offset federal cuts.
MemphisAg1
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
A couple of legal questions:

1. Supposedly the tax will be retroactive to Jan 1 if it passes in Nov. I thought it was illegal to pass tax increases retroactively?

2. It's widely believe the US constitution prohibits a wealth tax, which is why it hasn't gotten serious traction in Washington. Admittedly, it's never been tried and adjudicated by a federal court, much less the SC. States can craft their own laws, but they can't negate your rights under the US constitution. Federal supremacy rules. How can CA pass a wealth tax if it's not allowed by the US constitution?
Jock 07
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Still true

Cyprian
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
"Biting the hand that feeds you"
infinity ag
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Jock 07 said:

Still true




It's a cycle. When we have capitalism, people will misuse it and there will be calls for socialism. Then people run out of money. So back to capitalism

Such is life.
halfastros81
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
I'm no expert but I thought the Constitution only deals with federal level taxes . Could easily be wrong here but would California libs even pursue if it was just going to be struck down?
Ag87H2O
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
I hope California goes all in and does this. Combined with the looming fuel price increases, this will expedite the implosion of the left's social welfare schemes in their crown jewel state.
AggieBaseball06
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Quote:

one-time tax


I totally believe this. There's no way a government would ever go back on it's word about something as sacred as this.
deddog
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Quote:

The proposal calls for California residents worth more than $1 billion to pay a one-time tax equivalent to 5% of their assets.

Wow.
Absolute insanity.
MemphisAg1
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
halfastros81 said:

I'm no expert but I thought the Constitution only deals with federal level taxes . Could easily be wrong here but would California libs even pursue if it was just going to be struck down?

I think you're right. The US constitution speaks to federal taxation and leaves state taxation up to the states. There are other elements of the US constitution that speak to rights broadly like free speech and 2A that states can not override, but that's a different matter than taxation.

Thanks for clarifying.
AgGrad99
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Ag87H2O said:

I hope California goes all in and does this. Combined with the looming fuel price increases, this will expedite the implosion of the left's social welfare schemes in their crown jewel state.

The problem, is that the Dems continually bail them out with legislation, without calling it a bail out.

ie. Inflation Reduction act.
Jeeper79
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
halfastros81 said:

I'm no expert but I thought the Constitution only deals with federal level taxes . Could easily be wrong here but would California libs even pursue if it was just going to be struck down?
And pass up a chance to virtue signal? Never.
aggiehawg
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
halfastros81 said:

I'm no expert but I thought the Constitution only deals with federal level taxes . Could easily be wrong here but would California libs even pursue if it was just going to be struck down?

Without weighing in the constitutional issues (tax issues not my forte) but the last thing CA cares about is whether it will be struck down years down the road if they can get $$$$ in the meantime. Shortsighted money grab, thy name is California.
deddog
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG

Here is how I pictured OP as he was posting this thread:

halfastros81
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Great point. Had not thought about that .
rocky the dog
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Quote:

The proposal calls for California residents worth more than $1 billion to pay a one-time tax equivalent to 5% of their assets.

Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
infinity ag
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Ag87H2O said:

I hope California goes all in and does this. Combined with the looming fuel price increases, this will expedite the implosion of the left's social welfare schemes in their crown jewel state.


You might be on to something. Maybe such a dynamite is needed.

infinity ag
How long do you want to ignore this user?
deddog said:


Here is how I pictured OP as he was posting this thread:





I am concerned about myself, as I move to CA and approach becoming a billionaire.

And yes, screw the CEOs!
Tex100
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
rocky the dog said:

Quote:

The proposal calls for California residents worth more than $1 billion to pay a one-time tax equivalent to 5% of their assets.




Ever seen a copy of the first federal income tax form? You are right to laugh.
Jock 07
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
AggieBaseball06 said:

Quote:

one-time tax


I totally believe this. There's no way a government would ever go back on it's word about something as sacred as this.

I'm old enough to remember when Harris county said they'd take out the tolls on the beltway after the road was paid off.
infinity ag
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Jock 07 said:

AggieBaseball06 said:

Quote:

one-time tax


I totally believe this. There's no way a government would ever go back on it's word about something as sacred as this.

I'm old enough to remember when Harris county said they'd take out the tolls on the beltway after the road was paid off.


This is not new. Dems make promises and never keep them. It's an old scam to do it with toll money to pay for illegals.
BTKAG97
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Quote:

The proposal calls for California residents worth more than $1 billion to pay a one-time tax equivalent to 5% of their asset.


Those are rookie numbers. They need to up that. Besides, nobody needs more than $1B.
Logos Stick
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Too late to flee. It's retroactive.
JWinTX
How long do you want to ignore this user?
What nobody ever answers to these tax questions is how they're gonna collect the actual taxes? Billionaire X leaves CA after they say you owe a one-time tax. How do they get that collected when X moves to Texas or Florida, for example?

In reality, it's just more expensive virtue-signaling to buy votes from poor voters.
infinity ag
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Logos Stick said:

Too late to flee. It's retroactive.


Hmm looks like I need to rethink my plans to move to CA.
The_Waco_Kid
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
AggieBaseball06 said:

Quote:

one-time tax


I totally believe this. There's no way a government would ever go back on it's word about something as sacred as this.


Lincoln proposed an income tax to pay for the War Between the States. SCOTUS shot it down as unconstitutional.
twk
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
halfastros81 said:

I'm no expert but I thought the Constitution only deals with federal level taxes . Could easily be wrong here but would California libs even pursue if it was just going to be struck down?

The issue for state wealth taxes is the takings clause of the 5th amendment, which bars Congress (and by incorporation of the 14th amendment, the states) from taking private property without just compensation. That's why we can have an income tax and not a wealth tax.
aggiehawg
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
JWinTX said:

What nobody ever answers to these tax questions is how they're gonna collect the actual taxes? Billionaire X leaves CA after they say you owe a one-time tax. How do they get that collected when X moves to Texas or Florida, for example?

In reality, it's just more expensive virtue-signaling to buy votes from poor voters.

Get a judgment in CA state court and then domesticate that judgment in the state where they live now.
Sid Farkas
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Tex100 said:

rocky the dog said:

Quote:

The proposal calls for California residents worth more than $1 billion to pay a one-time tax equivalent to 5% of their assets.




Ever seen a copy of the first federal income tax form? You are right to laugh.

yeah - before long it'll be annual, and levied against millionaires too.
Mega Lops
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
This is part of the playbook. Poor tech CEOs fleeing to other parts of the country, bringing their libtard ethics and beliefs to attract a likeminded libtard workforce.

Businesses reincorporating in Florida, you saaaaayyyyyyyyyyy???

Meanwhile, the best real estate in the country will be gobbled up by buddies of the government.

Need to start over, America.



Lib response incoming shortly:

OmG yOu ArE lItErAlLy AdVoCaTiNg FoR tHe DeAtHs Of MiLlIoNs Of CaLiFoRnIaNs By PoStInG tHe AnImAtEd GiF!

deddog
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
JWinTX said:

What nobody ever answers to these tax questions is how they're gonna collect the actual taxes? Billionaire X leaves CA after they say you owe a one-time tax. How do they get that collected when X moves to Texas or Florida, for example?

In reality, it's just more expensive virtue-signaling to buy votes from poor voters.


Elon, and Page have most of their wealth tied in stocks. So they are supposed to sell 5% of their shares so that greedy, envy filled Californians can pay health care for illegals?
What about the impact on the stock market?

This stupidity won't just affect California.
tunefx
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
I hope you're correct. My fear is dem feds bail them out.
Maroon Dawn
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Exactly my thoughts. None of these guys have a Scrooge McDuck money bin where their money is just sitting around in gold coin form for them to swim in daily. Their wealth is in their assets. This would force them to sell off their assets to to pay the government and although not a legal expert, pretty sure government can't force you to sell your private property and then give them the proceeds of the sale
aggiehawg
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Atlas Shrugged with abolishing patents and trademarks and wealth taxes was supposed to be a cautionary tale but CA sees it as a how-to manual.
JWinTX
How long do you want to ignore this user?
aggiehawg said:

JWinTX said:

What nobody ever answers to these tax questions is how they're gonna collect the actual taxes? Billionaire X leaves CA after they say you owe a one-time tax. How do they get that collected when X moves to Texas or Florida, for example?

In reality, it's just more expensive virtue-signaling to buy votes from poor voters.

Get a judgment in CA state court and then domesticate that judgment in the state where they live now.

You certainly know more than me on this, but would red states do this? I can't see Texas abiding by this for CA to get the funds...
Last Page
Page 1 of 4
 
×
subscribe Verify your student status
See Subscription Benefits
Trial only available to users who have never subscribed or participated in a previous trial.