Logos Stick said:

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You own a used truck dealership in Dallas and 30% of your biz is somalis from MN?! That's sounds sus

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It passes the eye test guys! Somalians are just misunderstood

What is their usual brand of truck they buy? Do they ever tell you if they want to do reefer/flat/step/RGN? I owned 2 trucks at one point and a mixture of covid/ethnic business tactics really hurt us. I'm just baffled that they choose trucking, it's not an easy business.

BigRobSA said:

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CaptTex said:

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What is their usual brand of truck they buy?

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Toy HiLux, with a .50 mounted in the bed.

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Thread winner.

No way it's real unless he's enabling the fraudsters, somehow... Which I doubt.

zephyr88 said:

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Are you of Somalian, Ethiopian, Eritrean or Kenyan heritage?

Are you an American citizen?

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I'm American through and through. Your typical straight, white, Christian male.

My family has been in America since the mid 1700's and my great-great-great-great-great grandfather died in the war of 1812 in Virginia.

Logos Stick said:

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You own a used truck dealership in Dallas and 30% of your biz is somalis from MN?! That's sounds sus

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For those who don't know the industry, not many Americans are left in this business. Hispanics, Africans, Eastern Europeans, and African Americans make up 90% of my customer base. I don't remember the last time I sold a truck to a white guy.

Now, I don't sell the hooded, long-nosed pete's that most white guys like, so that might have something to do with it also. But this is very much a foreign dominated industry.

KDubAg said:

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Why are Somalians or whatever buying used trucks in Dallas 1100 miles away from their hometown/state.?

Are you actually verifying their documents or just taking it at face value?

I do real estate and there is a lot of fake documents that get sent to me and I have to research and look into it.

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Like I said earlier, all of the financing is done through 3rd party lenders. I do NOT finance these guys on my own. I verify everything up front before I send it in to a lender. I've got a few of them faking bank statements or tax returns, but the vast VAST majority have real jobs and make real money driving trucks and delivering good.


I'd say the Somalian community is a very tight-knit group. I sold a couple of trucks to Somalians based out of Dallas when I first opened. Via word of mouth, those Somalians contacted other Somalians and told them to come to my dealership because I sell good used trucks and fair prices and offer good financing terms.

My relationship with my lenders is more important to me than any one deal and if I even get a whiff of fraud, they're kicked out of my dealership. It's only happened a handful of times in five years, though.

CaptTex said:

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What is their usual brand of truck they buy? Do they ever tell you if they want to do reefer/flat/step/RGN? I owned 2 trucks at one point and a mixture of covid/ethnic business tactics really hurt us. I'm just baffled that they choose trucking, it's not an easy business.

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They buy Freightliner Cascadia's. They love the Detroit Engine or the Cummins engine. They'll consider Kenworth if it's a good deal but they overwhelmingly want 2020-2022 Freightliner Cascadia's with DD15 engines, DT12 automatic transmissions, under 550k miles, under $55,000.


I stock those trucks and they sell really, really fast. Also, the Ethiopians, Eritreans, and Kenyan's prefer Freightliner with the same specs. My wholesaler (who happens to be the #2 wholesaler in the country) has a direct contact with Freightliner corporate.

BigRobSA said:

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CaptTex said:

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What is their usual brand of truck they buy?

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Toy HiLux, with a .50 mounted in the bed.

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LOLOL. This was actually pretty funny!

Broncos said:

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Great troll job by OP. No way this is real.

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It's very real. I accidently stumbled across a niche in the used truck market and have been very successful because of it.

Keep in mind, Somalians aren't the only ones I sell to. Ethiopians, Eritreans, and Kenyans also buy from me. We also do business with a lot of Hispanics (just hired two Spanish speakers to help) and your typical run of the mill older American Blacks. Unfortunately, there's just not a lot of white people in this industry anymore.

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Not all Somali immigrants are thieves.

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Ok, then if that is the going to be the case then show me the outrage in the Somali community and the whistleblowers turning in their own. Show me the bad guys going to jail/being deported at the hand of their own.

These are not HOA violations. This is not ratting on a neighbor for a mask violation.

This is major fraud taking every tax payer's dollar and the Somali community that they have built, is being silent. Not cooperating. Until they change, they are all thick as thieves. They are all at fault in the eyes of perception.

theeyetest said:

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aggiehawg said:

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theeyetest said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Do they pay in cash?

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Not very many of them. Although, 99% of them have large down payments. Usually from $10,000-$20,000.

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So do you finance the rest? Or do they have outside financing in place? What I'm basically asking is do they have jobs to qualify for car loans?

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Every single customer is financed through an outside financing source. They look at last 6 months of bank statements, verify job history, last two years tax returns, etc.

These are not cars, they are class 8 heavy duty commercial tractors used to transport good all across the country.

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Thanks for the clarification, because I was going to call you out that "every single loan application is thoroughly vetted" (paraphrasing).

I would say that the overwhelming majority of consumer car loans are not thoroughly vetted. From listening to industry insiders, I think it's speculated 20-30% of car loan applications have inaccuracies on it (often over statement of income). Between revenue, 1099, W2, overtime, side-gigs, etc, I'm not saying the inaccurate applications are all people writing down numbers with the intent to deceive, but just a complete lack of understanding of finances. I would probably agree that the auto lending industry is complicit in this and knows their internal numbers to repo a car, auction it, and move on to the point that they'd rather just issue more loan debt to gain more interest monies.

theeyetest said:

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zephyr88 said:

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Are you of Somalian, Ethiopian, Eritrean or Kenyan heritage?

Are you an American citizen?

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I'm American through and through. Your typical straight, white, Christian male.

My family has been in America since the mid 1700's and my great-great-great-great-great grandfather died in the war of 1812 in Virginia.

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Interesting.

Curious to why do you choose do deal with the scourge of the world?

I'm assuming it's the money.

I personally wouldn't do business with those people.

MookieBlaylock said:

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shocker a used car salesman gives credit to illegals with stolen money

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Used truck salesmen, amiright?!?!

zephyr88 said:

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theeyetest said:

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zephyr88 said:

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Are you of Somalian, Ethiopian, Eritrean or Kenyan heritage?

Are you an American citizen?

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I'm American through and through. Your typical straight, white, Christian male.

My family has been in America since the mid 1700's and my great-great-great-great-great grandfather died in the war of 1812 in Virginia.

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Interesting.

Curious to why do you choose do deal with the scourge of the world?

I'm assuming it's the money.

I personally wouldn't do business with those people.

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In my experience, they haven't been the scourge of the world. I've kicked out just as many white people as I have Somalians. Read through the thread. I didn't plan on doing business with Somalians. I just sold a few local ones some good truck at good prices and treated them like humans and the referrals skyrocketed.

For the most part, they're nice people just trying to make a better life for themselves. There's been a handful of Somalians that I've kicked out and ran out of my dealership who are fraudsters and take advantage of people.


Three weeks ago, I had a middle aged white man who was trying to take advantage of an older white woman. Trying to use her money as a down payment and use her credit to buy the truck. Once I met the older woman and realized she wasn't all there mentally, I kicked him out and apologized to the woman. I even went as far as finding her children on facebook to let them know what was happening.

Muy said:

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MookieBlaylock said:

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shocker a used car salesman gives credit to illegals with stolen money

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Used truck salesmen, amiright?!?!

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Used Truck Dealership Owners****

If you're going to insult, get it right.

theeyetest said:

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Mr.Milkshake said:

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Is this a thread about a beneficiary of fraud defending the fraudsters paying him wit stolen money?

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Nope. This is a thread discussing immigrants can be good people too when given the chance.

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Yea they actually only want to hear negative stories here. You're ruining the vibe.

Life is easy when you pay cash for groceries, rent (Walmart Money orders), car rentals, $100 gift cards, etc.

It's possible to stay under the radar. Plenty of transactions don't need a background check.

That frees up cash to buy other things. Big ticket things.

IndividualFreedom said:

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Not all Somali immigrants are thieves.

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Ok, then if that is the going to be the case then show me the outrage in the Somali community and the whistleblowers turning in their own. Show me the bad guys going to jail/being deported at the hand of their own.

These are not HOA violations. This is not ratting on a neighbor for a mask violation.

This is major fraud taking every tax payer's dollar and the Somali community that they have built, is being silent. Not cooperating. Until they change, they are all thick as thieves. They are all at fault in the eyes of perception.

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That's incredibly naive. These folks mostly immigrated from a "might make right" culture where turning in the bad guys gets you dead because the so called good guys are on the take. That's just a simple truth. Sure I wish the good ones would do the right thing here but I understand why they don't. Hell we have an entire party determined to convince black Americans not to cooperate with the police, why are you surprised when immigrants think that's what they're supposed to do?

Geminiv said:

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theeyetest said:

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Mr.Milkshake said:

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Is this a thread about a beneficiary of fraud defending the fraudsters paying him wit stolen money?

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Nope. This is a thread discussing immigrants can be good people too when given the chance.

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Yea they actually only want to hear negative stories here. You're ruining the vibe.

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Turns out they are frauding the American taxpayers via democrats to the tune of $10s of billions of dollars (only known to date) WHEN GIVEN THE CHANCE.

But hey, if it makes
You feel good. Great.

How worried should we be that our roads are full of these truck drivers from foreign countries that may not be able to read safety signs? Or obey the same driving laws that we have? I've seen a few awful stories of middle eastern/ east African truck drivers causing horrible accidents and they were totally at fault.

Big Al 1992 said:

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How worried should we be that our roads are full of these truck drivers from foreign countries that may not be able to read safety signs? Or obey the same driving laws that we have? I've seen a few awful stories of middle eastern/ east African truck drivers causing horrible accidents and they were totally at fault.

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They should be able to pass the eye test..good to go

bro it's legit they have all their paperwork in order and it's good for the economy

They're thieves just by virtue of being here in the first place. These people create nothing, build nothing, and contribute nothing. They survive solely off the backs of the American taxpayers. They don't assimilate. The vast majority on welfare. Vast majority complicit in every fraud imaginable. They're thieves and they shouldn't even be here leaching off white Americans.

Imagine coming to this board of all places and gloating about your role in the en****tification of this country.

Every single east African should be sent back to East Africa. Imagine this country today if we had not given so much food and money aid to Africa. We wouldn't be gaslit and guilted in to taking the overflow of borderline ******ed humans all of that aid spawned. So the us taxpayer helped find their birth and now we get to be their economic zone and/or complete support system. Get them all out.

First question, do all the drivers speak & read english?

Do you have any thoughts on why the business is predominantly foreign non white these days?

Is it the willingness to longhaul and forego normal family setup?

I suspect the owner-operators are rife with dot violations... can be a lot more profitable when you dont care about following the rules.