Cuba is next

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Me too but doing it when it's part of the US will be so much better
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halfastros81 said:

I think Iran is next but it's just a matter of time for the Cuban regime as well.


Sadly, we've been waiting for the current Cuban regime to fail for over 60 years. The leadership in Cuba isn't suffering. They will need to be forced out with help from outside of Cuba.
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Hoyt Ag said:

I have same question and speak Spanish and Czech fluent, German isn't bad.


Most Cubans in Havana actually speak fairly good English.
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They're going to be extremely pissed. Like a trapped animal. They need VZ's oil bigly.
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Fishing using electric shocks has problems such as ecosystem destruction and is prohibited in many countries.

However, the UN and Greenpeace are, for some reason, staying silent about this kind of ecosystem destruction by China.

They are like a ****ING LOCUST PLAGUE, fishing till an area is a dead zone of fish and then moving on. The problem is they are doing this worldwide. Not a single thought about tomorrow. Just fish an area till there is nothing left. This type of thinking is very common among the Chinese now. The CCP really warped/destroyed traditional Chinese culture during the Cultural Revolution and all the good values and virtues it had. They are still replacing it to this day. They replaced it with some plastic crap from commie culture with garbage commie values. The way they fish is a perfect example of this. In terms of Greenpeace, they are filled with liberals and liberals can always be counted on to support commies. The more tryannical the regime the more the libs support them.


Edit. Search YouTube for " Tofu Dregs Buildings /highways /bridges. They build major structures with iron/steel you can bend with your barehands. colums on sides of bridge filled with foam. Build it as fast as you can as cheaply as you can. Don't even give it a second thought this building or bridge will collapse in 6 months and kill a bunch of people.

#FJB
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Can you imagine what Cuba would be like now if it had not gone commie? Unbelievable vacation spot. Banking, finance a la Grand Cayman style business. Those idiots missed out on a gold mine.
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Rossticus said:

Ag In Ok said:

These areas may ultimately be our greatest threat to China. We will take the canal back by force, destroy investment in the western hemisphere and end their relationship with Brazil…. If we can't stop them taking an island, they don't have a chance crossing the pacific.


We need to keep China out of our hemisphere at all costs, for many reasons. Elimination of Chinese authoritarian partner governments elsewhere in the world when the opportunity arises wouldn't hurt my feelings either.



Chinese troll ships are conducting pulse fishing (electric shock fishing) in the Persian Gulf and near Iranian waters, killing fish, juvenile fish, and coral, turning the sea into a "dead sea."

Local Iranian reports have covered mass fish deaths and unemployment among local fishermen, with confirmed devastation of juvenile fish and coral, as well as collateral damage to dolphins, sea turtles, and others.

Fishing using electric shocks has problems such as ecosystem destruction and is prohibited in many countries.

However, the UN and Greenpeace are, for some reason, staying silent about this kind of ecosystem destruction by China.

Greenpeace takes money from China in exchange for only being a problem for the West's activities.
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Since the bay of pigs: Cuba has always been next.
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rab79 said:

LMCane said:

rocky the dog said:




I asked this yesterday

what kind of job can a semi-retired guy in his 50s, good physical shape

get in Ukraine / Venezuela / Cuba / Iran

is there some class to become "American Rebuilder Contractor"

How well do you speak the language for those places?

These may be speaking American soon so he should be good.
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No Spin Ag said:

Someone please tell me there's oil to be gotten in Cuba so we can drive gas prices even lower.

Not in Cuba, but there is a lot in Mexico.
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Someone needs to tell the POTUS that this is not about oil.
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Burpelson said:

Someone needs to tell the POTUS that this is not about oil.

He's aware but he likes to talk in simple terms. It's what he does.

You can't have China, Russia, and Iran with the ownership and influence they've garnered in our hemisphere under Obama and Biden.

This effectively cuts BRICS off at the knees.

Think strategically.
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Burpelson said:

Someone needs to tell the POTUS that this is not about oil.


He knows. Just like everyone else does in the biz. But there are still rules and he can't come out and directly announce he is making strategic moves against China et al. to the world. He just can't. Not yet.

So the facade of oil and oil infrastructure is used to fend off the masses until things escalate to the next step or hopefully, deescalate to where it all blows over and everyone forgets again.
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rab79 said:

What are the chances that the Cubans see the writing on the wall and start cooperating with the US voluntarily?

half the Cuban communist government is getting on planes to Miami right now!
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GeorgiAg said:

Can you imagine what Cuba would be like now if it had not gone commie? Unbelievable vacation spot. Banking, finance a la Grand Cayman style business. Those idiots missed out on a gold mine.

Castro died happy after supposedly sleeping with thousands of women over the years (of course, Mr. Trudeau could not be reached for comment).

Our State Dept/CIA played a role in training/equipping his forces, it should be noted, and of course he recieved fawning praise in leftist propaganda outlets such as the NYT (which had also praised Hitler less than 20 years prior) before the 1959 revolution:
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What did the US know of Castro? Much knowledge came not from official government efforts but enterprising journalists. The long struggle by the barbudos (bearded ones) attracted much sympathy from the American press, Chief among these was New York Times reporter Herbert Matthews. Castro had been reported killed by the Batista regime. But Matthews was able to locate him.

After some days with Castro, Matthews sent his report to the Times. On February 24, 1957, the world was electrified by the news: "Fidel Castro, the rebel leader of Cuba's youth, is alive and fighting hard and successfully in the rugged, almost impenetrable fastnesses of the Sierra Maestra, at the southern tip of the island." Along with the report Matthew provided the rebel leader's signature as proof. The article gushed with praise, included a description of Castro as an "educated, dedicated fanatic, a man of ideals, of courage and of remarkable qualities of leadership."

He had not only dramatically revealed that Castro was not dead, he successfully portrayed him in a way that garnered widespread interest and sympathy from readers across the country. Even more importantly for US policy, he also denied that Castro was a communist or that communists were a significant force in his movement. Such reporting built a groundswell of support among the American public.

Oh no, not communist, just a popular man of the people.
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With regard to Fidel and his rise to power, you also have to remember that Cuba was very much a country of contradictions and a "Havana and not Havana" country in the 1950s. Batista had seized power via a coup 7-8 years prior to Fidel's revolution, and the US mafia was heavily infused into Havana. Cubans either had money and lived a VERY nice life in Havana, or they pretty much had nothing, especially in rural areas.

Fidel promised equality, which garnered him enough support to take power. One of the big reasons he became so entrenched after the revolution was because anyone with money fled the country and anyone who might be able to mount a movement against him was killed, imprisoned, tortured, disappeared, etc. The effects of that dynamic are still felt in Cuba today.

During the revolution, Fidel did not "campaign" as a communist. So, while Fidel is usually associated with communism, his ideology as a communist was absolutely secondary to his primary motive which was power. He was an evil, brutal dictator.
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All communist leaders are evil, brutal dictators. This has been proven throughout history.

Here in this country, Mamdani would be no exception and is already telling us he would be with his overt policies to confiscate private property and tax white people more than brown/black people.
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Rossticus said:




Mexico is a real problem and needs to be liberated.

I'm on record here a bunch saying that we need to invade Mexico. I think we need to take the land and the oil

They are and have been a legitimate Clear and Present danger on our Southern border with a complicit government. They've proven over 50 years that they will not do a thing to reign in the cartels, and in fact will encourage them.

We have every legitimate reason to invade
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Invade Cuba, Colombia and now Mexico too?

You never go full Hitler.

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We didn't invade Venezuela, we inserted a quick strike force, removed a wanted criminal, and left.

But I think we need to absolutely outright invade Mexico. Full military invasion and take the land. Period.

There are times when invading another country is justified, and we are 50 years of BS completely justified in eliminating that country.
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4 said:

We didn't invade Venezuela, we inserted a quick strike force, removed a wanted criminal, and left.

But I think we need to absolutely outright invade Mexico. Full military invasion and take the land. Period.

There are times when invading another country is justified, and we are 50 years of BS completely justified in eliminating that country.

Disagree. Just go Clear and Present Danger on the cartels and send special forces to take them out.
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Aston04 said:

Rubio is literally talking about the possibility of invading Cuba..... And NBC host is saying... alright.. alright... hurrying him to a commercial break.


No need to invade, a precise decapitation strike would do the job just fine as it did in VZ
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4 said:

We didn't invade Venezuela, we inserted a quick strike force, removed a wanted criminal, and left.

But I think we need to absolutely outright invade Mexico. Full military invasion and take the land. Period.

There are times when invading another country is justified, and we are 50 years of BS completely justified in eliminating that country.


Been there. Done that. We didnt want it.

I like JSOC surgical strikes for dealing woth these corrupt governments in our hemisphere.

I have always been a believer in the Monroe Doctrine and am tired of these limp-dick liberals being afraid to let the US be the global superpower it is. We dont apologize for furthering US interests in the West.

Leftist says we only got Maduro for oil? I dont give a ***** He was a thorn in our side and his regime was antithetical to US homeland security.

I'd say anywhere the Chi-comms start to ingrain themselves in the Western Hemisphere, we topple that regime.
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aggiehawg said:

4 said:

We didn't invade Venezuela, we inserted a quick strike force, removed a wanted criminal, and left.

But I think we need to absolutely outright invade Mexico. Full military invasion and take the land. Period.

There are times when invading another country is justified, and we are 50 years of BS completely justified in eliminating that country.

Disagree. Just go Clear and Present Danger on the cartels and send special forces to take them out.

I'd be on board with that.
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aggiehawg said:

4 said:

We didn't invade Venezuela, we inserted a quick strike force, removed a wanted criminal, and left.

But I think we need to absolutely outright invade Mexico. Full military invasion and take the land. Period.

There are times when invading another country is justified, and we are 50 years of BS completely justified in eliminating that country.

Disagree. Just go Clear and Present Danger on the cartels and send special forces to take them out.

The problem with Mexico is the government is the cartels. And the cartels are the government.

Their government not only looks the other way, it's actively complicit. Can't separate the two.
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4 said:

We didn't invade Venezuela, we inserted a quick strike force, removed a wanted criminal, and left.

But I think we need to absolutely outright invade Mexico. Full military invasion and take the land. Period.

There are times when invading another country is justified, and we are 50 years of BS completely justified in eliminating that country.

Understand the frustration but Mex has 95 million people mostly in the central part of the country. The north is hilly desert with little infra structure with the exceptions of Monterrey and Chihuahua. If those two went street to street thousands of civies would die and you'd have a public relations nightmare.

Urban fight are ugly and everyone has a phone snapping a zillion pics and vids. Unless Mex surrendered quickly no way this works. And never mind the political risk.

Far better and more effective ways to deal with Mexico.
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akaggie said:

halfastros81 said:

I think Iran is next but it's just a matter of time for the Cuban regime as well.


Sadly, we've been waiting for the current Cuban regime to fail for over 60 years. The leadership in Cuba isn't suffering. They will need to be forced out with help from outside of Cuba.

The problem is every time we have had Cuba or Iran on the ropes we get a Dem in and they breathe life into them. Obama and Biden both brought them back from the brink.
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Understand the frustration but Mex has 95 million people mostly in the central part of the country. The north is hilly desert with little infra structure with the exceptions of Monterrey and Chihuahua. If those two went street to street thousands of civies would die and you'd have a public relations nightmare.

Urban fight are ugly and everyone has a phone snapping a zillion pics and vids. Unless Mex surrendered quickly no way this works. And never mind the political risk.

Far better and more effective ways to deal with Mexico.

One reason why I said go Clear and Present Danger on them. Cartels are fierce rivals and very paranoid. Cartel leaders start getting wacked, do it in a way that looks like a rival cartel. Let them start to take each other out. Mop up by taking second in commands thereafter.
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Lathspell said:

4 said:

We didn't invade Venezuela, we inserted a quick strike force, removed a wanted criminal, and left.

But I think we need to absolutely outright invade Mexico. Full military invasion and take the land. Period.

There are times when invading another country is justified, and we are 50 years of BS completely justified in eliminating that country.


Been there. Done that. We didnt want it.

I like JSOC surgical strikes for dealing woth these corrupt governments in our hemisphere.

I have always been a believer in the Monroe Doctrine and am tired of these limp-dick liberals being afraid to let the US be the global superpower it is. We dont apologize for furthering US interests in the West.

Leftist says we only got Maduro for oil? I dont give a ***** He was a thorn in our side and his regime was antithetical to US homeland security.

I'd say anywhere the Chi-comms start to ingrain themselves in the Western Hemisphere, we topple that regime.


We would be stupid not to. It's also crazy that the left is just fine with us intervening in the Old World when it suits their narrative, but they refuse to get involved where it actually matters - which is the Western Hemisphere.

We flat out cannot let China, Russia, and Iran get more of a foothold over here for obvious reasons. If Trump is able to turn VZ around and Cuba also falls, then those are massive wins for them and us. Even if both continue to be mostly ****holes it's better that they suck without that Axis of Evil influence vs sucking and being a malignant bad actor against US interests.
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Another key difference is we have been fighting in countries where the soldiers are happy to be martyred, the cartels are more interested in living another day.

I have heard special operations guys talk about how quickly they would smoke cartel groups for years. Now we have a prime example of their capabilities. A lot of resources to handle Mexico though.
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Also, as someone with half a family of Colombians, and with many family members still living in Colombia, i dont know any one of them that would be mad about this.

Hell, one of my uncles immigrated here in the late 60s at around 8yo. He's now a retired E9, in the Air Forcee.
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aggiehawg said:

rab79 said:

What are the chances that the Cubans see the writing on the wall and start cooperating with the US voluntarily?

Not unless both Russia and China tell them they are on their own and no oil nor other assistance will be given.

We had a neighbor back in the late 70s who was in the National Guard. His unit was specifically tasked with setting up a functioning city government (under military control) in a short time. I assumed that was for after a natural disaster within the US but Cuba presents an interesting scenario with Gitmo already there. Cuba is so close to the US supply chains are not a major issue. Get the lights on and water running and bring in a crap ton of food, like a mini Berlin Airlift and the Cuban people will be thrilled.

sounds complicated...
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