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94DCAg said:

The Senate didn't convict Trump for January 6th because manyRepublicans truly thought he wouldn't run again. I know McConnell, Lankford, Tillis, Rubio, Graham, Portman, Ernst, etc. come to mind as votes that could have been whipped if a few more GOP leaders stood up. Perhaps they thought the courts would work faster than they did....locking Trump up. They couldn't fathom that Trump would be re-elected.....again.

During the '24 election, the amount of lies and scare tactics were extreme. Trump tanking immigration reform, proclaiming "they are eating dogs and cats" (a lie), villainizing/endangering LBTQ (criminal), the CONSTANT scary anti-trans commercials, etc. The Butler event was incredibly pro-Trump vote getting event. It's one of the reasons I truly do not believe it was a Democratic operation. Instead either a lone freak kid or one of those crazy conspiracies floating around about Trump staging it. Not sure we will ever truly know.

Many voters are transactional and distrust both parties. Trump told them what they wanted to hear--"lower taxes", "release the Epstein files," "lower costs on day one" "no-more wars" and "free IVF". Many of those voters were hoodwinked and they know it..now. Plus, there was the oddity of Biden handicapping the Dems by not running again and let the nomination process work itself out. On top of that, Covid made us all crazy. It was a FREAKING WILD SURREAL election.

To say the '24 election proves the irrelevance of January 6th ignores everything else that occurred.

The only reason Trump works so hard to literally destroy the evidence, fabricate nonsense and punish/threaten anyone who speaks the truth is .......he knows what he did was seditious and criminal. He'd be in jail if he didn't get re-elected. That's why Trump pulled out all the lies, hate, and shadiness to get elected.

I saw January 6th live. You did too. The Republican Senators who know better spoke out against it....before the Trump machine threatened them all. You may cling to a thread of a false narratives to prove your point. But you are ignoring a mountain of plain speaking truth to live in your reality.

Trump is a stain on our American experience. Not sure we will survive him.

Absolutely none of that is true.

First of all, it was obvious he was going to run again, because he's an alpha male and didn't ever intend to take the stolen 2020 election laying down, hence the concerted efforts to incarcerate and destroy him and his family by the Biden(*) handlers.

Second, to pick just one point, 'free IVF?' Really? I assume you missed the EO on the topic, but that couldn't have swayed more than a couple dozen voters in 2024. Also,
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Third, LOL. He's by far the greatest president of our lifetime. Who is trying to 'survive' his second term? Antifa? Illegal aliens? Somali frauds?

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94DCAg said:

waitwhat? said:


Your argument about Senate Republicans acquitting Trump because they "thought he wouldn't run again" is also unfalsifiable. There's no way to prove that wrong, which makes it rhetorically convenient but intellectually flimsy. You can dislike their stated reasons, but replacing them with imagined motives isn't evidenceit's mind-reading.

BS! McConnell focused on it in his speech and oral arguments during the Impeachment proceedings saying, "Biden won the electoral college election and will be President. Impeachment will have no impact because Trump is leaving. Let the courts handle this."

This was argued OVER AND OVER. WTF telling me I'm making it up.


You're a delusional F tard stain
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Did the insurrection even last longer than the running time of the movie Titanic?

An insurrection my ass. What a stretch.
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94DCAg said:

waitwhat? said:


Your argument about Senate Republicans acquitting Trump because they "thought he wouldn't run again" is also unfalsifiable. There's no way to prove that wrong, which makes it rhetorically convenient but intellectually flimsy. You can dislike their stated reasons, but replacing them with imagined motives isn't evidenceit's mind-reading.

BS! McConnell focused on it in his speech and oral arguments during the Impeachment proceedings saying, "Biden won the electoral college election and will be President. Impeachment will have no impact because Trump is leaving. Let the courts handle this."

This was argued OVER AND OVER. WTF telling me I'm making it up.


So when Trump mentioned the words in his speech on that day to March and walk in peace and patriotism, that is inciting a riot?

Or is that the big major part that you wished that he never said so y'all lie can be justified to the American people in hopes that no one will actually watch the entire speech so they will believe the lie that you spewed from your ass?
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94DCAg said:

Look at me and my TDS



Jesus how pathetic can you be? Worm.
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Their real problem is that they repeatedly let Trump con them into taking the 20 side of 80/20 issues.

Drug gangs, violent crime, open borders, USAID grift NGO's/fraud, Maduro, J6, Schumer shut down, Abrego Garcia ("Maryland abusive dad"), Colombia Hamas guy, woke military regs, you name it. He just has an uncanny gift, or more likely their TDS makes them unable to think at all about a rational response to his actions.
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Referring to the trump assassination attempt as "the bulter event" tells you everything you need to know about the levels of TDS you're dealing with.
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Do you remember where you were during the Dealy Plaza Event?

Great point.
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94DCAg said:

The Senate didn't convict Trump for January 6th because manyRepublicans truly thought he wouldn't run again. I know McConnell, Lankford, Tillis, Rubio, Graham, Portman, Ernst, etc. come to mind as votes that could have been whipped if a few more GOP leaders stood up. Perhaps they thought the courts would work faster than they did....locking Trump up. They couldn't fathom that Trump would be re-elected.....again.

During the '24 election, the amount of lies and scare tactics were extreme. Trump tanking immigration reform, proclaiming "they are eating dogs and cats" (a lie), villainizing/endangering LBTQ (criminal), the CONSTANT scary anti-trans commercials, etc. The Butler event was incredibly pro-Trump vote getting event. It's one of the reasons I truly do not believe it was a Democratic operation. Instead either a lone freak kid or one of those crazy conspiracies floating around about Trump staging it. Not sure we will ever truly know.

Many voters are transactional and distrust both parties. Trump told them what they wanted to hear--"lower taxes", "release the Epstein files," "lower costs on day one" "no-more wars" and "free IVF". Many of those voters were hoodwinked and they know it..now. Plus, there was the oddity of Biden handicapping the Dems by not running again and let the nomination process work itself out. On top of that, Covid made us all crazy. It was a FREAKING WILD SURREAL election.

To say the '24 election proves the irrelevance of January 6th ignores everything else that occurred.

The only reason Trump works so hard to literally destroy the evidence, fabricate nonsense and punish/threaten anyone who speaks the truth is .......he knows what he did was seditious and criminal. He'd be in jail if he didn't get re-elected. That's why Trump pulled out all the lies, hate, and shadiness to get elected.

I saw January 6th live. You did too. The Republican Senators who know better spoke out against it....before the Trump machine threatened them all. You may cling to a thread of a false narratives to prove your point. But you are ignoring a mountain of plain speaking truth to live in your reality.

Trump is a stain on our American experience. Not sure we will survive him.




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The 2020 election was going to be certified on Jan. 6, 2021 no matter what... guaranteed.

Subsequent talk that Jan. 6th was as impactful to the survivability of the Republic as was Pearl Harbor/Dec 7 and the Civil War was/is/always will be hyperbole.
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94DCAg said:



Trump is a stain on our American experience. Not sure we will survive him.



I am surprised that this country survived Biden and his plan to destroy it.

Trump is just trying to fix and repair what he did.
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Jan 6th wasn't nearly as bad as they made it out to be. It was also substantially worse than y'all let on. Somewhere in the middle.

But let's not pretend like y'all wouldn't be acting the exact same way if it were a bunch of blue hairs that did it.
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Concerned Moderate Ag said:

Jan 6th wasn't nearly as bad as they made it out to be. It was also substantially worse than y'all let on. Somewhere in the middle.

But let's not pretend like y'all wouldn't be acting the exact same way if it were a bunch of blue hairs that did it.

Democrats caused a significant amount of public and private property damage in the summer of 2020 and we don't hold candlelight vigils every summer in remembrance.
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Concerned Moderate Ag said:

Jan 6th wasn't nearly as bad as they made it out to be. It was also substantially worse than y'all let on. Somewhere in the middle.

But let's not pretend like y'all wouldn't be acting the exact same way if it were a bunch of blue hairs that did it.

We don't hold candlelight vigils for the iNsUrReCtIoN!!!1 when Justice Kavanaugh was in confirmation hearings and "blue hairs" stormed the scene.
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The thing about dems that conservatives need to understand is they're relentless. They never give in. Conservatives need to be more like this.
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Think we found this person's username on TexAgs

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The Capitol protest on 1/6/21 was a protest that turned into a riot - chaotic, unlawful, and deserving of prosecutions for the people who committed crimes. But pretending it was an organized attempt to overthrow the U.S. government orchestrated by Trump is just silly. An insurrection requires planning, leadership, coordination, and a realistic path to seizing power. None of that existed. A disorganized mob breaking windows and wandering the Capitol is not a coup, and insisting it was makes you impossible to take seriously.

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CDUB98 said:

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The Capitol protest on 1/6/21 was a protest that turned into a riot - chaotic, unlawful, and deserving of prosecutions for the people who committed crimes. But pretending it was an organized attempt to overthrow the U.S. government orchestrated by Trump is just silly. An insurrection requires planning, leadership, coordination, and a realistic path to seizing power. None of that existed. A disorganized mob breaking windows and wandering the Capitol is not a coup, and insisting it was makes you impossible to take seriously.




Agreed with this. It also is probably the most glaring example of the hypocrisy of both parties. Democrats like DCAg who were silent while their party rioted and destroyed cities across the country over the death of a drugged up criminal were suddenly up in arms about property destruction. But sadly the opposite that was true for a lot of republicans who didn't care that a few hundred losers broke into the capital and destroyed property.

Either way it definitely wasn't an "insurrection." It was a riot (something the Dems are basically experts on at this point), nothing more than that.
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LegalDrugPusher said:

94DCAg said:

waitwhat? said:


Your argument about Senate Republicans acquitting Trump because they "thought he wouldn't run again" is also unfalsifiable. There's no way to prove that wrong, which makes it rhetorically convenient but intellectually flimsy. You can dislike their stated reasons, but replacing them with imagined motives isn't evidenceit's mind-reading.

BS! McConnell focused on it in his speech and oral arguments during the Impeachment proceedings saying, "Biden won the electoral college election and will be President. Impeachment will have no impact because Trump is leaving. Let the courts handle this."

This was argued OVER AND OVER. WTF telling me I'm making it up.


So when Trump mentioned the words in his speech on that day to March and walk in peace and patriotism, that is inciting a riot?

Or is that the big major part that you wished that he never said so y'all lie can be justified to the American people in hopes that no one will actually watch the entire speech so they will believe the lie that you spewed from your ass?

I think he believes that Trump's speech was the one that the BBC played (where they spliced on something from an hour later to make it seem like he'd incited something).
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Trump told them to go make their voices heard, thus insurrection, obviously.
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94DCAg said:

The Senate didn't convict Trump for January 6th because manyRepublicans truly thought he wouldn't run again. I know McConnell, Lankford, Tillis, Rubio, Graham, Portman, Ernst, etc. come to mind as votes that could have been whipped if a few more GOP leaders stood up. Perhaps they thought the courts would work faster than they did....locking Trump up. They couldn't fathom that Trump would be re-elected.....again.

During the '24 election, the amount of lies and scare tactics were extreme. Trump tanking immigration reform, proclaiming "they are eating dogs and cats" (a lie), villainizing/endangering LBTQ (criminal), the CONSTANT scary anti-trans commercials, etc. The Butler event was incredibly pro-Trump vote getting event. It's one of the reasons I truly do not believe it was a Democratic operation. Instead either a lone freak kid or one of those crazy conspiracies floating around about Trump staging it. Not sure we will ever truly know.

Many voters are transactional and distrust both parties. Trump told them what they wanted to hear--"lower taxes", "release the Epstein files," "lower costs on day one" "no-more wars" and "free IVF". Many of those voters were hoodwinked and they know it..now. Plus, there was the oddity of Biden handicapping the Dems by not running again and let the nomination process work itself out. On top of that, Covid made us all crazy. It was a FREAKING WILD SURREAL election.

To say the '24 election proves the irrelevance of January 6th ignores everything else that occurred.

The only reason Trump works so hard to literally destroy the evidence, fabricate nonsense and punish/threaten anyone who speaks the truth is .......he knows what he did was seditious and criminal. He'd be in jail if he didn't get re-elected. That's why Trump pulled out all the lies, hate, and shadiness to get elected.

I saw January 6th live. You did too. The Republican Senators who know better spoke out against it....before the Trump machine threatened them all. You may cling to a thread of a false narratives to prove your point. But you are ignoring a mountain of plain speaking truth to live in your reality.

Trump is a stain on our American experience. Not sure we will survive him.




The DC bubble speaks.

What a post!
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If they want to talk about Jan 6th, ok... let's talk about how Pelosi refused to increase the security that Trump requested. Let's talk about how capitol police were apparently told to let the people in.
No, I don't care what CNN or Miss NOW said this time
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Trump is a stain on our American experience. Not sure we will survive him.

If we can survive the version of the January 6 events that exists in your mind, then "surviving" Trump will be a piece of cake.

Can you believe it's already been 5 years of surviving?
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94DCAg said:


Trump is a stain on our American experience. Not sure we will survive him.



While Trump is unorthodox, bombastic, unconventional, isn't a great public speaker, says things off the cuff, is childish and egotistical, and often shoots himself in the foot with tweets and words; the country is not and never was in peril with him as the POTUS. His style, the Dem leadership reflexively opposing anything he does and doing everything possible to undermine him (russia hoax, impeachments, criminal charges, etc), and the one sided biased media gaslighting every hour of every day about him has caused your ilk to go absolutely bat **** crazy with reflexive hyperbolic nonsense like the above post. Jan 6th and holding vigils every year to commemorate it is a perfect example.

I'm not a fan of everything Trump does but I haven't allowed myself to be constantly deceived and gaslit by the media coverage of him or what Dems say about him.
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94DCAg said:

The Senate didn't convict Trump for January 6th because manyRepublicans truly thought he wouldn't run again. I know McConnell, Lankford, Tillis, Rubio, Graham, Portman, Ernst, etc. come to mind as votes that could have been whipped if a few more GOP leaders stood up. Perhaps they thought the courts would work faster than they did....locking Trump up. They couldn't fathom that Trump would be re-elected.....again.
that is some wild ass conjecture

During the '24 election, the amount of lies and scare tactics were extreme.

1.Trump tanking immigration reform
"reform" if continuing to allow illegal to swamp the country and providing some version of mass amnesty while spending brick loads more money is your sort of "reform," then it should've died anyway. Plus theres absolutely no guarantee it would've have passed anyway.

Further, trump already has proven we dont need more laws. We simply need to enforce the ones we do have


proclaiming "they are eating dogs and cats" (a lie)

that was definitely not a lie. In fact, it happens more often that you think pretty much anywhere large populations of illegals are dropped unsuspectingly on a smaller town. Just last week they were having issue with swans being consumed in England, for example

villainizing/endangering LBTQ (criminal)
certainly dont recall that but for sure nothing criminal unless youre one of those anti speech advocates

the CONSTANT scary anti-trans commercials
yes, Republicans seized on an 80/20 issue. Scary? Nah. Dont allow men in women's sports, restrooms and dont allow life changing medical procedures for a mental problem and this isnt a problem

The Butler event was incredibly pro-Trump vote getting event. It's one of the reasons I truly do not believe it was a Democratic operation. Instead either a lone freak kid or one of those crazy conspiracies floating around about Trump staging it. Not sure we will ever truly know.

someone did something, eh?

Plus, there was the oddity of Biden handicapping the Dems by not running again and let the nomination process work itself out.

you seem to leave out Biden being completely gone mentally while the populace had to endure complete lies about his mental state from the media further discrediting everything it out out, followed by the insertion of a very unpopular candidate who spent 1 billion dollars in a month's time. Theres was nothing any democratcoupd do to overcome to total failure of the biden regime, the total failureof the msm, and the complete loss of trust in the institutions of this nation


On top of that, Covid made us all crazy. It was a FREAKING WILD SURREAL election.

yes, another failure of the institutions, led by Fauci lying to our faces. Dems are still crazy about it. The craziest part of all was the govt going authoritarian basef on really ****ty without any pushback whatsoever. Led by dems mostly, but many Rs as well.

To say the '24 election proves the irrelevance of January 6th ignores everything else that occurred.

The only reason Trump works so hard to literally destroy the evidence, fabricate nonsense and punish/threaten anyone who speaks the truth is .......he knows what he did was seditious and criminal. He'd be in jail if he didn't get re-elected. That's why Trump pulled out all the lies, hate, and shadiness to get elected.

thats extreme copium

I saw January 6th live. You did too. The Republican Senators who know better spoke out against it....before the Trump machine threatened them all. You may cling to a thread of a false narratives to prove your point. But you are ignoring a mountain of plain speaking truth to live in your reality.

yea, we saw a protest turn into a riot.

Trump is a stain on our American experience. Not sure we will survive him.

get a dog.

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Damn Ronald, why you let the looney bins close?
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AgResearch said:


Dems should ask themselves just who are the Democrats holding these candles for???

Ashli Babbitt?
Capitol windows?
A speaker's podium?
Nancy's desk?

Or, the insane narrative they so desperately want to keep alive?
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94DCAg said:

The only reason Trump works so hard to literally destroy the evidence, fabricate nonsense and punish/threaten anyone who speaks the truth is .......he knows what he did was seditious and criminal. He'd be in jail if he didn't get re-elected. That's why Trump pulled out all the lies, hate, and shadiness to get elected.

I saw January 6th live. You did too. The Republican Senators who know better spoke out against it....before the Trump machine threatened them all. You may cling to a thread of a false narratives to prove your point. But you are ignoring a mountain of plain speaking truth to live in your reality.

Trump is a stain on our American experience. Not sure we will survive him.

This holds about as much water as the idea that GWB orchestrated 9/11.

By the time the election in 2020 rolled around, the political elite around the world properly identified populism as the largest threat to the uniparty. Jan 6th was an attempt to smash MAGA in the same way the ivory tower killed the Tea Party movement.

It's not working out quite as well this time.
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94DCAg said:

waitwhat? said:


Your argument about Senate Republicans acquitting Trump because they "thought he wouldn't run again" is also unfalsifiable. There's no way to prove that wrong, which makes it rhetorically convenient but intellectually flimsy. You can dislike their stated reasons, but replacing them with imagined motives isn't evidenceit's mind-reading.

BS! McConnell focused on it in his speech and oral arguments during the Impeachment proceedings saying, "Biden won the electoral college election and will be President. Impeachment will have no impact because Trump is leaving. Let the courts handle this."

This was argued OVER AND OVER. WTF telling me I'm making it up.

The real issue here is that Trump identifying a separate set of electors was very dangerous, as it has led to a constitutional crises before in the history of our nation.

The acts of civil disobedience on Jan 6th were just a scape goat to turn the focus away from the real threat.
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Edit that. It's going to earn you a timeout.
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BadMoonRisin said:

Do you remember where you were during the Dealy Plaza Event?

Great point.

Pretty sure that this response was one of the major reasons why Trump won in 2024:



Do you disagree?
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Trajan88 said:

The 2020 election was going to be certified on Jan. 6, 2021 no matter what... guaranteed.

Subsequent talk that Jan. 6th was as impactful to the survivability of the Republic as was Pearl Harbor/Dec 7 and the Civil War was/is/always will be hyperbole.

Again, the threat wasn't the protest.

It was the idea that a candidate could try to circumvent the current state of affairs related to the Electoral College that was so dangerous. The concern about the protest is just 3-card monte.
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94DCAg said:

Trump is a stain on our American experience. Not sure we will survive him.


oh no.. .a non-socialist was elected. we might not survive slowing down our socialist roll and fully destroying this country we hate so much for four more years.
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