rocky the dog said:
94DCAg said:
The Senate didn't convict Trump for January 6th because manyRepublicans truly thought he wouldn't run again. I know McConnell, Lankford, Tillis, Rubio, Graham, Portman, Ernst, etc. come to mind as votes that could have been whipped if a few more GOP leaders stood up. Perhaps they thought the courts would work faster than they did....locking Trump up. They couldn't fathom that Trump would be re-elected.....again.
During the '24 election, the amount of lies and scare tactics were extreme. Trump tanking immigration reform, proclaiming "they are eating dogs and cats" (a lie), villainizing/endangering LBTQ (criminal), the CONSTANT scary anti-trans commercials, etc. The Butler event was incredibly pro-Trump vote getting event. It's one of the reasons I truly do not believe it was a Democratic operation. Instead either a lone freak kid or one of those crazy conspiracies floating around about Trump staging it. Not sure we will ever truly know.
Many voters are transactional and distrust both parties. Trump told them what they wanted to hear--"lower taxes", "release the Epstein files," "lower costs on day one" "no-more wars" and "free IVF". Many of those voters were hoodwinked and they know it..now. Plus, there was the oddity of Biden handicapping the Dems by not running again and let the nomination process work itself out. On top of that, Covid made us all crazy. It was a FREAKING WILD SURREAL election.
To say the '24 election proves the irrelevance of January 6th ignores everything else that occurred.
The only reason Trump works so hard to literally destroy the evidence, fabricate nonsense and punish/threaten anyone who speaks the truth is .......he knows what he did was seditious and criminal. He'd be in jail if he didn't get re-elected. That's why Trump pulled out all the lies, hate, and shadiness to get elected.
I saw January 6th live. You did too. The Republican Senators who know better spoke out against it....before the Trump machine threatened them all. You may cling to a thread of a false narratives to prove your point. But you are ignoring a mountain of plain speaking truth to live in your reality.
Trump is a stain on our American experience. Not sure we will survive him.
Ag-Yoakum95 said:
If anyone is a stain on America, it's any living, breathing liberal / democrat. They are complete scum of the earth.
Ag-Yoakum95 said:94DCAg said:
The Senate didn't convict Trump for January 6th because manyRepublicans truly thought he wouldn't run again. I know McConnell, Lankford, Tillis, Rubio, Graham, Portman, Ernst, etc. come to mind as votes that could have been whipped if a few more GOP leaders stood up. Perhaps they thought the courts would work faster than they did....locking Trump up. They couldn't fathom that Trump would be re-elected.....again.
During the '24 election, the amount of lies and scare tactics were extreme. Trump tanking immigration reform, proclaiming "they are eating dogs and cats" (a lie), villainizing/endangering LBTQ (criminal), the CONSTANT scary anti-trans commercials, etc. The Butler event was incredibly pro-Trump vote getting event. It's one of the reasons I truly do not believe it was a Democratic operation. Instead either a lone freak kid or one of those crazy conspiracies floating around about Trump staging it. Not sure we will ever truly know.
Many voters are transactional and distrust both parties. Trump told them what they wanted to hear--"lower taxes", "release the Epstein files," "lower costs on day one" "no-more wars" and "free IVF". Many of those voters were hoodwinked and they know it..now. Plus, there was the oddity of Biden handicapping the Dems by not running again and let the nomination process work itself out. On top of that, Covid made us all crazy. It was a FREAKING WILD SURREAL election.
To say the '24 election proves the irrelevance of January 6th ignores everything else that occurred.
The only reason Trump works so hard to literally destroy the evidence, fabricate nonsense and punish/threaten anyone who speaks the truth is .......he knows what he did was seditious and criminal. He'd be in jail if he didn't get re-elected. That's why Trump pulled out all the lies, hate, and shadiness to get elected.
I saw January 6th live. You did too. The Republican Senators who know better spoke out against it....before the Trump machine threatened them all. You may cling to a thread of a false narratives to prove your point. But you are ignoring a mountain of plain speaking truth to live in your reality.
Trump is a stain on our American experience. Not sure we will survive him.
If anyone is a stain on America, it's any living, breathing liberal / democrat. They are complete scum of the earth.
94DCAg said:
The Senate didn't convict Trump for January 6th because manyRepublicans truly thought he wouldn't run again. I know McConnell, Lankford, Tillis, Rubio, Graham, Portman, Ernst, etc. come to mind as votes that could have been whipped if a few more GOP leaders stood up. Perhaps they thought the courts would work faster than they did....locking Trump up. They couldn't fathom that Trump would be re-elected.....again.
During the '24 election, the amount of lies and scare tactics were extreme. Trump tanking immigration reform, proclaiming "they are eating dogs and cats" (a lie), villainizing/endangering LBTQ (criminal), the CONSTANT scary anti-trans commercials, etc. The Butler event was incredibly pro-Trump vote getting event. It's one of the reasons I truly do not believe it was a Democratic operation. Instead either a lone freak kid or one of those crazy conspiracies floating around about Trump staging it. Not sure we will ever truly know.
Many voters are transactional and distrust both parties. Trump told them what they wanted to hear--"lower taxes", "release the Epstein files," "lower costs on day one" "no-more wars" and "free IVF". Many of those voters were hoodwinked and they know it..now. Plus, there was the oddity of Biden handicapping the Dems by not running again and let the nomination process work itself out. On top of that, Covid made us all crazy. It was a FREAKING WILD SURREAL election.
To say the '24 election proves the irrelevance of January 6th ignores everything else that occurred.
The only reason Trump works so hard to literally destroy the evidence, fabricate nonsense and punish/threaten anyone who speaks the truth is .......he knows what he did was seditious and criminal. He'd be in jail if he didn't get re-elected. That's why Trump pulled out all the lies, hate, and shadiness to get elected.
I saw January 6th live. You did too. The Republican Senators who know better spoke out against it....before the Trump machine threatened them all. You may cling to a thread of a false narratives to prove your point. But you are ignoring a mountain of plain speaking truth to live in your reality.
Trump is a stain on our American experience. Not sure we will survive him.
Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:
when you take a step back,and realize that almost every democrat wqs a complete and utter tool growing up. that is the moment their actions make a lot more sense
J. Walter Weatherman said:CDUB98 said:Quote:
The Capitol protest on 1/6/21 was a protest that turned into a riot - chaotic, unlawful, and deserving of prosecutions for the people who committed crimes. But pretending it was an organized attempt to overthrow the U.S. government orchestrated by Trump is just silly. An insurrection requires planning, leadership, coordination, and a realistic path to seizing power. None of that existed. A disorganized mob breaking windows and wandering the Capitol is not a coup, and insisting it was makes you impossible to take seriously.
Agreed with this. It also is probably the most glaring example of the hypocrisy of both parties. Democrats like DCAg who were silent while their party rioted and destroyed cities across the country over the death of a drugged up criminal were suddenly up in arms about property destruction. But sadly the opposite that was true for a lot of republicans who didn't care that a few hundred losers broke into the capital and destroyed property.
Either way it definitely wasn't an "insurrection." It was a riot (something the Dems are basically experts on at this point), nothing more than that.
esteban said:
Jan 6 didn't tell me anything I didn't already know about the right. I'm just glad no one of consequence was killed that day.
