Ellis Wyatt said:And you're wrong.rsf0626 said:
I also believe that fatal force wasnt warranted here.
People are gonna see what they want to see.
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People are gonna see what they want to see.
The officer was dragged last year in Minneapolis. This isnt his first rodeo
No. I see the facts.
Watching the video, she cuts the wheel hard right in an effort to avoid the officer standing in front of the vehicle but both misjudged the angle AND the situation she was in where trying to accelerate with officers in close proximity would be viewed as an aggressive/dangerous action in that split second. If her primary goal had been to murder the officer then she would have accelerated straight ahead.
Do I think her intention was to run down an officer? No. Was it a justified shooting in that moment? Absolutely. She made a series of poor decisions that put her in a situation where a misstep could have seismic consequences… and she made a final, monumental error in judgment.
I hate seeing a person die unnecessarily like that but you can't blame that officer for reacting the way he did.
Do I think her intention was to run down an officer? No. Was it a justified shooting in that moment? Absolutely. She made a series of poor decisions that put her in a situation where a misstep could have seismic consequences… and she made a final, monumental error in judgment.
I hate seeing a person die unnecessarily like that but you can't blame that officer for reacting the way he did.
Ellis Wyatt said:
No. I see the facts.
Like I said. People are gonna see what they want to see. Makes us human
rsf0626
Rossticus said:
Watching the video, she cuts the wheel hard right in an effort to avoid the officer standing in front of the vehicle but both misjudged the angle AND the situation she was in where trying to accelerate with officers in close proximity would be viewed as an aggressive/dangerous action in that split second. If her primary goal had been to murder the officer then she would have accelerated straight ahead.
Do I think her intention was to run down an officer? No. Was it a justified shooting in that moment? Absolutely. She made a series of poor decisions that put her in a situation where a misstep could have seismic consequences… and she made a final, monumental error in judgment.
I hate seeing a person die unnecessarily like that but you can't blame that officer for reacting the way he did.
She should have stopped and complied. She didnt. She was doing illegal things as a "legal observer". Then she struck a federal law enforcement officer and found out what happens.
rsf0626 said:
This whole situation was completely unnecessary from both sides. So stupid
The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
Nobody wants to hear that bull***** She was a deep state professional agitator that allegedly tried to infiltrate and ruin every single ICE Op for weeks. For weeks! Her MO license plate confirms.
TAMUallen said:Rossticus said:
Watching the video, she cuts the wheel hard right in an effort to avoid the officer standing in front of the vehicle but both misjudged the angle AND the situation she was in where trying to accelerate with officers in close proximity would be viewed as an aggressive/dangerous action in that split second. If her primary goal had been to murder the officer then she would have accelerated straight ahead.
Do I think her intention was to run down an officer? No. Was it a justified shooting in that moment? Absolutely. She made a series of poor decisions that put her in a situation where a misstep could have seismic consequences… and she made a final, monumental error in judgment.
I hate seeing a person die unnecessarily like that but you can't blame that officer for reacting the way he did.
She should have stopped and complied. She didnt. She was doing illegal things as a "legal observer". Then she struck a federal law enforcement officer and found out what happens.
Did I indicate anywhere in my statement that she shouldn't have stopped and complied?
Don't know that but the shooting was 100% justified.
Who?mikejones! said:500,000ags said:
Wtf are you talking about? She wasn't blocking anything. Top of the clip, a car drives right in front of and around her. She was primarily in the wrong for instigating, but this is so much closer to murder than domestic terrorism. Most pathetic use of that phrase ever. Trump said she ran over him viciously. Get a grip.
1. She had allegedly been harassing the agents throughout the day
2. According to other witnesses, her job was to impede traffic where ice was operating
3. I haven't confirmed this, but based on clues in the videos ive seen, it appears she was being detained, or about to be. The cops were surrounding her car with one officer pulling on the door handle
4. At that moment, she decides to drive away and evade detainment/arrest
5. She hits an officer.
Doesn't really matter after that. If you hit a cop with your car, you open up the consequences up to and including being shot. The end. Basic stuff.
She shouldn't have been there
There's no alleged about your first two points.
There is literally someone telling the press or something her job was to harass officers and impede them. She was the lead car in this.
And yes they were clearly tired of her **** after likely giving her grace all day and going to detain her. Then she decide it's time to get out of there and hits an officer in her attempt to escape. She wasn't trying to hit him but her actions put her in the position to hit him.
This is 100% on her. She wasn't some mom that just got caught up in the middle of an ice raid and panicked. She and her wife are also clearly paid agitators.
500,000ags said:
Nobody wants to hear that bull***** She was a deep state professional agitator that allegedly tried to infiltrate and ruin every single ICE Op for weeks. For weeks! Her MO license plate confirms.
Nice troll.
What was she doing today? Had she been in conflict with ICE agents all day? Why didn't she simply stop instead of striking an agent? Doing illegal things as a "legal observer" is pretty conflicting with the narrative
500,000ags said:
Nobody wants to hear that bull***** She was a deep state professional agitator that allegedly tried to infiltrate and ruin every single ICE Op for weeks. For weeks! Her MO license plate confirms.
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I agree with you. I dont think her intent was to hit an officer. I think intent was to run away from being detained or arrested.
However, her intent is irrelevant and something the officer could not guess on. He had a car come at him, accelerating, and hit him.
Game over
However, her intent is irrelevant and something the officer could not guess on. He had a car come at him, accelerating, and hit him.
Game over
Rossticus said:TAMUallen said:Rossticus said:
Watching the video, she cuts the wheel hard right in an effort to avoid the officer standing in front of the vehicle but both misjudged the angle AND the situation she was in where trying to accelerate with officers in close proximity would be viewed as an aggressive/dangerous action in that split second. If her primary goal had been to murder the officer then she would have accelerated straight ahead.
Do I think her intention was to run down an officer? No. Was it a justified shooting in that moment? Absolutely. She made a series of poor decisions that put her in a situation where a misstep could have seismic consequences… and she made a final, monumental error in judgment.
I hate seeing a person die unnecessarily like that but you can't blame that officer for reacting the way he did.
She should have stopped and complied. She didnt. She was doing illegal things as a "legal observer". Then she struck a federal law enforcement officer and found out what happens.
Did I indicate anywhere in my statement that she shouldn't have stopped and complied?
Didn't say there was anything wrong with what you said
Who?mikejones! said:
I agree with you. I dont think her intent was to hit an officer. I think intent was to run away from being detained or arrested.
However, her intent is irrelevant and something the officer could not guess on. He had a car come at him, accelerating, and hit him.
Game over
100%
Its already been reported she was harassing ice officers all day long, today. Its irrelevant if she was a professional instigator
TAMUallen said:Rossticus said:TAMUallen said:Rossticus said:
Watching the video, she cuts the wheel hard right in an effort to avoid the officer standing in front of the vehicle but both misjudged the angle AND the situation she was in where trying to accelerate with officers in close proximity would be viewed as an aggressive/dangerous action in that split second. If her primary goal had been to murder the officer then she would have accelerated straight ahead.
Do I think her intention was to run down an officer? No. Was it a justified shooting in that moment? Absolutely. She made a series of poor decisions that put her in a situation where a misstep could have seismic consequences… and she made a final, monumental error in judgment.
I hate seeing a person die unnecessarily like that but you can't blame that officer for reacting the way he did.
She should have stopped and complied. She didnt. She was doing illegal things as a "legal observer". Then she struck a federal law enforcement officer and found out what happens.
Did I indicate anywhere in my statement that she shouldn't have stopped and complied?
Didn't say there was anything wrong with what you said
Read your post differently than intended. Apologies
All good
Agreed as well.
I think this is always going to be a point of contention from both sides though. Same with KRH.
He was right in the use of deadly force, but at what point is the person who puts themselves into a situation that requires deadly force held accountable? From what I understand, it is policy to NOT put yourself in front of a moving car that would then require a use of deadly force.
I think this is always going to be a point of contention from both sides though. Same with KRH.
He was right in the use of deadly force, but at what point is the person who puts themselves into a situation that requires deadly force held accountable? From what I understand, it is policy to NOT put yourself in front of a moving car that would then require a use of deadly force.
Well, he didn't put himself in front of a moving car. He put himself in front of a stopped car, that then moved after she failed to comply with an order to get out
rsf0626 said:Ellis Wyatt said:
No. I see the facts.
Like I said. People are gonna see what they want to see. Makes us human
I want to know what all those stickers on the back of her said.
500,000ags said:
Agreed as well.
I think this is always going to be a point of contention from both sides though. Same with KRH.
He was right in the use of deadly force, but at what point is the person who puts themselves into a situation that requires deadly force held accountable? From what I understand, it is policy to NOT put yourself in front of a moving car that would then require a use of deadly force.
It wasnt moving. It then did, into him.
rsf0626 said:AgFormerlyInIrving said:
Indeed. We should never be out enforcing the law. Good point.
Thats not my point. I agree that she shouldnt have been preventing them from doing their jobs. I also believe that fatal force wasnt warranted here. In the video from the driver side angle you can clearly see she was trying to drive away from the officer not into him. Both people panicked. Cost her life unnecessarily
It's not panic to shoot someone actively driving a vehicle towards you. Give a couple hundred milliseconds for delay and when he decides to shoot, that vehicle hasn't started turning.
Who?mikejones! said:
I agree with you. I dont think her intent was to hit an officer. I think intent was to run away from being detained or arrested.
However, her intent is irrelevant and something the officer could not guess on. He had a car come at him, accelerating, and hit him.
Game over
Her intent is not some thing we can ever know. And frankly not relevant..
Yes, thats what I said. Her intent is irrelevant.
But, that seems to be what to other half is getting hung up on
But, that seems to be what to other half is getting hung up on
It really has to suck for the people with nice houses on that street. Guess the smart ones moved out after Floyd riots though
I'm not going to debate the semantics, but that car was clearly not "parked" or stopped at any point. It went backwards, turned, and then went forward.
500,000ags said:
I'm not going to debate the semantics, but that car was clearly not "parked" or stopped at any point. It went backwards, turned, and then went forward.
So he put himself in front of a car that was going away from him. She was being stopped and did not comply. Driver changed direction towards him and struck him. Then shots were fired.
Sounds like he didn't do something wrong and she did.
Quite simple.
500,000ags said:
Wtf are you talking about? She wasn't blocking anything. Top of the clip, a car drives right in front of and around her. She was primarily in the wrong for instigating, but this is so much closer to murder than domestic terrorism. Most pathetic use of that phrase ever. Trump said she ran over him viciously. Get a grip.
There's more video preceding the shooting where she is blocking traffic, waving non-ICE traffic around her, then moving to block ICE vehicles. They get out and start yelling at her to get the F outta the car. You know what happens next.
LEO shouldn't have to wait until he's actually run over to start shooting. Stop the threat dead in its tracks. Good work, good kill.
Let us not forget that the initial shot is through the windshield. The shooting occurs after the vehicle is driving forward into the agent. Windshields don't lie
500,000ags said:
I'm not going to debate the semantics, but that car was clearly not "parked" or stopped at any point. It went backwards, turned, and then went forward.
That's exactly what you are doing.
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but that car was clearly not "parked" or stopped at any point.
How can any rational person make that statement? It was dead still long enough for them to walk up to it.
On an icy street.
This person's phone went back and forth several time before she started moving.
🚨 BREAKING: Another video was just released CLEARLY showing the leftist RAMMING an ICE agent, who discharges his firearm at her in self-defense
— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) January 7, 2026
He was literally standing RIGHT there. And she FLOORED IT.
Pray for ICE. Wow.pic.twitter.com/ViMqpauupB
YouBet said:
Will echo and say the two different pics shared in this thread on Good look nothing like one another. I don't think it's the same woman.
Also, she was clearly on the job protesting. Why else would her "wife" be outside filming and not in the car with her? This is textbook astroturfing.
And leaving your kids behind to get yourself killed over the federal government doing their constitutional duty is a wasted life while forever screwing your kids future. Way to go lady.
Not only that but assaulting federal law enforcement with your vehicle in support of……illegal Somalians? What the hell goes through these lunatics heads?
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