CrackerJackAg said:

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The cop is also an ******* & should be in prison.

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If being an a-hole was a penitentiary offense, we would have to build a lot more prisons.

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CrackerJackAg said:

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LarryLayman said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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LarryLayman said:

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94DCAg said:

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No. This is not how I want my police to police.

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For your feelings you would prefer an innocent man rot in prison? How noble.

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Not innocent. Payed a price higher than cops are used to or more than he should have but he was not innocent.

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Example number 400,567,843,956 that leftists are incapable of setting aside their ideology, even for a second, and seeing the truth.

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Example 400,567,843,956 how sensitive grown men can't understand that somebody might just disagree with them and has to revert to calling them names and trying to "other" them.

Like I said earlier straight ticket republican three times Trump voter.

Politically loving everything that's happening right now.

Don't feel bad for Floyd. Don't feel bad for the lady that got shot yesterday.

The cop is also an ******* & should be in prison.

You don't have to call people names just because they don't agree with you. Makes you look like you lack self confidence and/or intelligence. I've never met you so I don't know for sure if you are ******ed & don't want to just assume so because this is the complete data set I have to go on.

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He died of a fentanyl overdose….

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As has been noted many times, no, he didn't. It's been repeated ad nauseum that he had a more than a lethal dose of fentanyl in his system, but it's been repeatedly ignored that he was a habitual user with a very high tolerance. If the incredibly high level of fentanyl in his system killed him outright, he wouldn't have even been walking around trying to pass his counterfeit bills because he'd have been on his ass or dead already. Did the fentanyl contribute to his death. I think the answer is absolutely. Did it kill him on its own and would he have died when he if Derek Chauvin or other cops never showed up that day? No.

Floyd was a POS, but Chauvin was clued the **** out that a guy in his custody was literally dead/dying under him. No matter how you slice it, he was inexcusably incompetent or negligent. He didn't have to save Floyd's life, but Floyd was handcuffed and in his custody and he was responsible for checking him and at least attempting to render aid. He completely dropped the ball.

It's also been noted many times that you hate cops

mslags97 said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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LarryLayman said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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LarryLayman said:

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94DCAg said:

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No. This is not how I want my police to police.

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For your feelings you would prefer an innocent man rot in prison? How noble.

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Not innocent. Payed a price higher than cops are used to or more than he should have but he was not innocent.

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Example number 400,567,843,956 that leftists are incapable of setting aside their ideology, even for a second, and seeing the truth.

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Example 400,567,843,956 how sensitive grown men can't understand that somebody might just disagree with them and has to revert to calling them names and trying to "other" them.

Like I said earlier straight ticket republican three times Trump voter.

Politically loving everything that's happening right now.

Don't feel bad for Floyd. Don't feel bad for the lady that got shot yesterday.

The cop is also an ******* & should be in prison.

You don't have to call people names just because they don't agree with you. Makes you look like you lack self confidence and/or intelligence. I've never met you so I don't know for sure if you are ******ed & don't want to just assume so because this is the complete data set I have to go on.

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He died of a fentanyl overdose….

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God, it must be hard to be you

blacksox said:

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Teslag said:

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Dan Carlin said:

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I prefer my police to not murder civilians, so... no.

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Good thing Floyd did the world a favor and OD'ed to death

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Which the jury did not buy after listening to the evidence. All the defense needed for an acquittal was to convince a single juror there was reasonable doubt and they couldn't even do that.

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He was convicted in Minnesota right? There's not one sane person in the state so that should count for something.

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It is clear he was railroaded.

Is there processes available to allow pardon individuals the ability to leave prison with no announcement? No notice?

That dude life will never be the same.

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No

The only people who have noted that are simpletons who think every issue can only binary and resort to non sequiturs and ad hominems because they have nothing else to contribute.

I have taken cops side in many instances, but I also think that by and large they hypocritically about responsibility and accountability for their actions while debating interested respect and deference. It's almost like I call it like I see it instead of bootlicking.

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I prefer my police to not murder civilians, so... no.

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"Murder" has a specific definition in our legal system and even going back to the Bible. Murder is different than killing. A soldier fighting against another soldier might kill them, but that's not murder. A LEO detaining someone that had just taken a lot of drugs doesn't really rise to the level of murder or the LEO "killing" him. Dude died from an OD because he fought the cops that were responding a legitimate call for help and his clogged heart couldn't handle the pressure. Heart stopped pumping and his brain stopped working due to lack of O2.

For you to pontificate that a cop "murdered" an innocent man in cold blood is really shortsighted and uninformed of what actually happened. But, your feelings see it differently. ACAB? Right?

94DCAg said:

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No. This is not how I want my police to police.

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But he didn't murder the pregnant woman robbing career felon. That guy OD'd on a ton of fent. Your preferences are irrelevant in terms of what actually happened. Chauvin was a political and societal sacrifice.

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Such injustice against him. I can't imagine the daily seething and rage he must feel.

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Truly feel for him. Can't imagine the rage and frustration that probably plagues him.

An ******* is in prison because he killed a ****ty guy. I'd call it a solid two-fer.

Concerned Moderate Ag said:

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An ******* is in prison because he killed a ****ty guy. I'd call it a solid two-fer.

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From all accounts, Chauvin was an *******. We don't put people away for life for just being *******s. The man did not murder anyone.

Chauvin was caught up in a whirlwind of circumstance and he became an unfortunate trophy.

At the instant he came on site, he saw a career criminal and habitual drug user that had already started his routine. Chauvin had probably seen it dozens of times. Once Floyd was on the ground, he had a gathering mob starting to get highly agitated ramping up the adrenaline and speeding up time in his mind. As documented in the trial, he followed training procedures.

To me, the key point that ended up pushing him over the edge was the complete **** up of the EMS. If they were directed properly, St. George either dies in the ambulance or assumes the state of a vegetable on the way to the hospital. They took way too long so the situation on the ground was compounded.

At that point, a jury feared for their lives of retribution after the fact so voting guilty was easier than moving from Minnesota to save their hide.

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The only people who have noted that are simpletons who think every issue can only binary and resort to non sequiturs and ad hominems because they have nothing else to contribute.

I have taken cops side in many instances, but I also think that by and large they hypocritically about responsibility and accountability for their actions while debating interested respect and deference. It's almost like I call it like I see it instead of bootlicking.

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...speaking of non sequiturs, ad hominems, and hypocrisy,

Aside from the fact that your post is barely intelligible, your opinion is the definition of hypocrisy.

Chauvin's verdict is the product of a corrupt legal system.

ETA: the gaslighting just doesn't have the same impact anymore. Do it elsewhere.

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He's in state prison. Federal pardon won't help him.

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Chauvin is in federal prison.

A pardon would put him in state prison. He does not want that I suspect.

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He was in federal prison when he was stabbed sooooo….

CrackerJackAg said:

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LarryLayman said:

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94DCAg said:

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No. This is not how I want my police to police.

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For your feelings you would prefer an innocent man rot in prison? How noble.

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Not innocent. Payed a price higher than cops are used to or more than he should have but he was not innocent.

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He might not be legally innocent, but he did nothing wrong.

He paid a higher price than what he should have because Flyod died of an overdose just after an agitator filmed a scene with really bad optics.

I have zero sympathy for any man that would point a gun at the womb of a pregnant mother.

CrackerJackAg said:

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LarryLayman said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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LarryLayman said:

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94DCAg said:

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No. This is not how I want my police to police.

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For your feelings you would prefer an innocent man rot in prison? How noble.

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Not innocent. Payed a price higher than cops are used to or more than he should have but he was not innocent.

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Example number 400,567,843,956 that leftists are incapable of setting aside their ideology, even for a second, and seeing the truth.

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Example 400,567,843,956 how sensitive grown men can't understand that somebody might just disagree with them and has to revert to calling them names and trying to "other" them.

Like I said earlier straight ticket republican three times Trump voter.

Politically loving everything that's happening right now.

Don't feel bad for Floyd. Don't feel bad for the lady that got shot yesterday.

The cop is also an ******* & should be in prison.

You don't have to call people names just because they don't agree with you. Makes you look like you lack self confidence and/or intelligence. I've never met you so I don't know for sure if you are ******ed & don't want to just assume so because this is the complete data set I have to go on.

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Says the guy that said this:

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I know that police state loving bleeders are gonna come on here and call me a leftist bleeder. Don't care.

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mslags97 said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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LarryLayman said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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LarryLayman said:

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94DCAg said:

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No. This is not how I want my police to police.

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For your feelings you would prefer an innocent man rot in prison? How noble.

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Not innocent. Payed a price higher than cops are used to or more than he should have but he was not innocent.

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Example number 400,567,843,956 that leftists are incapable of setting aside their ideology, even for a second, and seeing the truth.

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Example 400,567,843,956 how sensitive grown men can't understand that somebody might just disagree with them and has to revert to calling them names and trying to "other" them.

Like I said earlier straight ticket republican three times Trump voter.

Politically loving everything that's happening right now.

Don't feel bad for Floyd. Don't feel bad for the lady that got shot yesterday.

The cop is also an ******* & should be in prison.

You don't have to call people names just because they don't agree with you. Makes you look like you lack self confidence and/or intelligence. I've never met you so I don't know for sure if you are ******ed & don't want to just assume so because this is the complete data set I have to go on.

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He died of a fentanyl overdose….

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11 ng/mL doesn't lie, unlike liberals and concerned moderates.

That's a lethal dose of fentanyl, even among liberal Saints.

It's now "I voted for cops 3 times, but Chauvin is a murderer who was out to kill Saint Floyd instead of getting that poor innocent father some narcan so he could keep stealing, doing and dealing drugs, and holding pistols to pregnant ladies bellies…"

blacksox said:

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Teslag said:

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Dan Carlin said:

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I prefer my police to not murder civilians, so... no.

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Good thing Floyd did the world a favor and OD'ed to death

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Which the jury did not buy after listening to the evidence. All the defense needed for an acquittal was to convince a single juror there was reasonable doubt and they couldn't even do that.

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It was purely a political conviction. The judge ensured that the process was tilted towards the prosecution and the jury absolutely understood what they were expected to do, and the threatened consequences of anything but a guilty verdict.

Most people still calling this murder basically saw the out of context video and have NO idea what the law is not of the full facts and information of the case, not that what the jury saw excluded some critical elements of evidence AND included very misleading "expert" testimony.

blacksox said:

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Teslag said:

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Dan Carlin said:

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I prefer my police to not murder civilians, so... no.

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Good thing Floyd did the world a favor and OD'ed to death

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Which the jury did not buy after listening to the evidence. All the defense needed for an acquittal was to convince a single juror there was reasonable doubt and they couldn't even do that.

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You don't believe a single juror was convinced? There's something called self-preservation and it's what every one those jurors chose.

BadMoonRisin said:

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mslags97 said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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LarryLayman said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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LarryLayman said:

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94DCAg said:

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No. This is not how I want my police to police.

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For your feelings you would prefer an innocent man rot in prison? How noble.

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Not innocent. Payed a price higher than cops are used to or more than he should have but he was not innocent.

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Example number 400,567,843,956 that leftists are incapable of setting aside their ideology, even for a second, and seeing the truth.

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Example 400,567,843,956 how sensitive grown men can't understand that somebody might just disagree with them and has to revert to calling them names and trying to "other" them.

Like I said earlier straight ticket republican three times Trump voter.

Politically loving everything that's happening right now.

Don't feel bad for Floyd. Don't feel bad for the lady that got shot yesterday.

The cop is also an ******* & should be in prison.

You don't have to call people names just because they don't agree with you. Makes you look like you lack self confidence and/or intelligence. I've never met you so I don't know for sure if you are ******ed & don't want to just assume so because this is the complete data set I have to go on.

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He died of a fentanyl overdose….

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11 ng/mL doesn't lie, unlike liberals and concerned moderates.

That's a lethal dose of fentanyl, even among liberal Saints.

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No, I've been taught on this thread you can build up a tolerance to fentanyl.

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Dan Carlin said:

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I prefer my police to not murder civilians, so... no.

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"Murder" has a specific definition in our legal system and even going back to the Bible. Murder is different than killing. A soldier fighting against another soldier might kill them, but that's not murder. A LEO detaining someone that had just taken a lot of drugs doesn't really rise to the level of murder or the LEO "killing" him. Dude died from an OD because he fought the cops that were responding a legitimate call for help and his clogged heart couldn't handle the pressure. Heart stopped pumping and his brain stopped working due to lack of O2.

For you to pontificate that a cop "murdered" an innocent man in cold blood is really shortsighted and uninformed of what actually happened. But, your feelings see it differently. ACAB? Right?

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Why is it that if a man kills another man in battle it's called heroic, yet if he kills a man in the heat of passion it's called murder?

ABATTBQ11 said:

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The only people who have noted that are simpletons who think every issue can only binary and resort to non sequiturs and ad hominems because they have nothing else to contribute.

I have taken cops side in many instances, but I also think that by and large they hypocritically about responsibility and accountability for their actions while debating interested respect and deference. It's almost like I call it like I see it instead of bootlicking.

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So help me get this straight.....you call it like you see it and that's OK but if someone calls it like they see it and it disagrees with your personal assessment then they are bootlicking?

ABATTBQ11 said:

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mslags97 said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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LarryLayman said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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LarryLayman said:

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94DCAg said:

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No. This is not how I want my police to police.

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For your feelings you would prefer an innocent man rot in prison? How noble.

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Not innocent. Payed a price higher than cops are used to or more than he should have but he was not innocent.

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Example number 400,567,843,956 that leftists are incapable of setting aside their ideology, even for a second, and seeing the truth.

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Example 400,567,843,956 how sensitive grown men can't understand that somebody might just disagree with them and has to revert to calling them names and trying to "other" them.

Like I said earlier straight ticket republican three times Trump voter.

Politically loving everything that's happening right now.

Don't feel bad for Floyd. Don't feel bad for the lady that got shot yesterday.

The cop is also an ******* & should be in prison.

You don't have to call people names just because they don't agree with you. Makes you look like you lack self confidence and/or intelligence. I've never met you so I don't know for sure if you are ******ed & don't want to just assume so because this is the complete data set I have to go on.

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He died of a fentanyl overdose….

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As has been noted many times, no, he didn't. It's been repeated ad nauseum that he had a more than a lethal dose of fentanyl in his system, but it's been repeatedly ignored that he was a habitual user with a very high tolerance. If the incredibly high level of fentanyl in his system killed him outright, he wouldn't have even been walking around trying to pass his counterfeit bills because he'd have been on his ass or dead already. Did the fentanyl contribute to his death. I think the answer is absolutely. Did it kill him on its own and would he have died when he if Derek Chauvin or other cops never showed up that day? No.

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As far as the bold, you have no clue as to what would have happened. 100% pure conjecture.

Dan Carlin said:

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I prefer my police to not murder civilians, so... no.

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Overdose

My opinion is he was a political conviction. I don't believe he was guilty of murder. Some form of negligence charge would have been more suited to the circumstances. He was convicted around the country and by the jury on the visual of him looking like a hardass on the video but that's not murder. There was enough real evidence presented about Floyd's drug intake, that proper police procedure was followed, that the EMS system was ****ed up, that the way Chauvin was kneeling on his neck didn't contribute to his death, etc for that jury to have rendered a not guilty on murder or at least be hung.

But the political pressure and hoopla around the trial, as well as the completely bat**** crazy way the country (and world) deified Floyd and reacted to this ensured a conviction. The jury was more interested in self preservation for them and their families rather than being objective.

Logos Stick said:

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ABATTBQ11 said:

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mslags97 said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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LarryLayman said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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LarryLayman said:

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94DCAg said:

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No. This is not how I want my police to police.

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For your feelings you would prefer an innocent man rot in prison? How noble.

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Not innocent. Payed a price higher than cops are used to or more than he should have but he was not innocent.

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Example number 400,567,843,956 that leftists are incapable of setting aside their ideology, even for a second, and seeing the truth.

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Example 400,567,843,956 how sensitive grown men can't understand that somebody might just disagree with them and has to revert to calling them names and trying to "other" them.

Like I said earlier straight ticket republican three times Trump voter.

Politically loving everything that's happening right now.

Don't feel bad for Floyd. Don't feel bad for the lady that got shot yesterday.

The cop is also an ******* & should be in prison.

You don't have to call people names just because they don't agree with you. Makes you look like you lack self confidence and/or intelligence. I've never met you so I don't know for sure if you are ******ed & don't want to just assume so because this is the complete data set I have to go on.

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He died of a fentanyl overdose….

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As has been noted many times, no, he didn't. It's been repeated ad nauseum that he had a more than a lethal dose of fentanyl in his system, but it's been repeatedly ignored that he was a habitual user with a very high tolerance. If the incredibly high level of fentanyl in his system killed him outright, he wouldn't have even been walking around trying to pass his counterfeit bills because he'd have been on his ass or dead already. Did the fentanyl contribute to his death. I think the answer is absolutely. Did it kill him on its own and would he have died when he if Derek Chauvin or other cops never showed up that day? No.

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As far as the bold, you have no clue as to what would have happened. 100% pure conjecture.

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If they had kept him in the car when he first started saying he couldn't breath(where he did not have a cop on his back), he dies on the way to the hospital/jail and the incident doesn't even get mentioned in the local news. Just another drug OD statistic.

See I can do it too.

Don't pardon. Have a new trial and make everything public. Make sure he gets acquitted.

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Don't pardon. Have a new trial and make everything public. Make sure he gets acquitted.

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Why would they have a new trial?

New evidence? Prosecutorial or juror misconduct?

This is not North Korea . . . .you can't just order a new trial because some internet posters think it is a good idea.

This would be a much better country if we could round up all the George Floyds and see them OD themselves into the afterlife like this one did

Indict and convict Tampon first. Tell him his sentence will get dramatically reduced 99%. All he has to do is make a public statement that Chauvin wasn't guilty and agrees with Trump's decision.

hunter2012 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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ABATTBQ11 said:

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mslags97 said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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LarryLayman said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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LarryLayman said:

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94DCAg said:

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No. This is not how I want my police to police.

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For your feelings you would prefer an innocent man rot in prison? How noble.

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Not innocent. Payed a price higher than cops are used to or more than he should have but he was not innocent.

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Example number 400,567,843,956 that leftists are incapable of setting aside their ideology, even for a second, and seeing the truth.

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Example 400,567,843,956 how sensitive grown men can't understand that somebody might just disagree with them and has to revert to calling them names and trying to "other" them.

Like I said earlier straight ticket republican three times Trump voter.

Politically loving everything that's happening right now.

Don't feel bad for Floyd. Don't feel bad for the lady that got shot yesterday.

The cop is also an ******* & should be in prison.

You don't have to call people names just because they don't agree with you. Makes you look like you lack self confidence and/or intelligence. I've never met you so I don't know for sure if you are ******ed & don't want to just assume so because this is the complete data set I have to go on.

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He died of a fentanyl overdose….

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As has been noted many times, no, he didn't. It's been repeated ad nauseum that he had a more than a lethal dose of fentanyl in his system, but it's been repeatedly ignored that he was a habitual user with a very high tolerance. If the incredibly high level of fentanyl in his system killed him outright, he wouldn't have even been walking around trying to pass his counterfeit bills because he'd have been on his ass or dead already. Did the fentanyl contribute to his death. I think the answer is absolutely. Did it kill him on its own and would he have died when he if Derek Chauvin or other cops never showed up that day? No.

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As far as the bold, you have no clue as to what would have happened. 100% pure conjecture.

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If they had kept him in the car when he first started saying he couldn't breath(where he did not have a cop on his back), he dies on the way to the hospital/jail and the incident doesn't even get mentioned in the local news. Just another drug OD statistic.

See I can do it too.

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If he couldn't breathe without a cop on his back for 9 minutes, he probably didn't need a cop on his back for 9 minutes. Conjecture all around.

Concerned Moderate Ag said:

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hunter2012 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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ABATTBQ11 said:

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mslags97 said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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LarryLayman said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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LarryLayman said:

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94DCAg said:

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No. This is not how I want my police to police.

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For your feelings you would prefer an innocent man rot in prison? How noble.

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Not innocent. Payed a price higher than cops are used to or more than he should have but he was not innocent.

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Example number 400,567,843,956 that leftists are incapable of setting aside their ideology, even for a second, and seeing the truth.

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Example 400,567,843,956 how sensitive grown men can't understand that somebody might just disagree with them and has to revert to calling them names and trying to "other" them.

Like I said earlier straight ticket republican three times Trump voter.

Politically loving everything that's happening right now.

Don't feel bad for Floyd. Don't feel bad for the lady that got shot yesterday.

The cop is also an ******* & should be in prison.

You don't have to call people names just because they don't agree with you. Makes you look like you lack self confidence and/or intelligence. I've never met you so I don't know for sure if you are ******ed & don't want to just assume so because this is the complete data set I have to go on.

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He died of a fentanyl overdose….

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As has been noted many times, no, he didn't. It's been repeated ad nauseum that he had a more than a lethal dose of fentanyl in his system, but it's been repeatedly ignored that he was a habitual user with a very high tolerance. If the incredibly high level of fentanyl in his system killed him outright, he wouldn't have even been walking around trying to pass his counterfeit bills because he'd have been on his ass or dead already. Did the fentanyl contribute to his death. I think the answer is absolutely. Did it kill him on its own and would he have died when he if Derek Chauvin or other cops never showed up that day? No.

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As far as the bold, you have no clue as to what would have happened. 100% pure conjecture.

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If they had kept him in the car when he first started saying he couldn't breath(where he did not have a cop on his back), he dies on the way to the hospital/jail and the incident doesn't even get mentioned in the local news. Just another drug OD statistic.

See I can do it too.

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If he couldn't breathe without a cop on his back for 9 minutes, he probably didn't need a cop on his back for 9 minutes. Conjecture all around.

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If George Floyd, after his arrest for a crime, had cooperated he would have been afforded medical care sooner. But he didn't, he resisted immediately. And the arresting officers could not take the risk to believe Floyd was having a significant health problem, because of the violent way he was resisting. Floyd ultimately caused his own death. Derek Chauvin was called in because Floyd was a huge guy who was too much for the officers on the scene to arrest. And it is a fact that Chauvin had been trained to subdue an unruly suspect by the very method he employed.

Communists used Floyd's death to help them achieve a goal. And part of that plan involved destroying Derek Chauvin. How stupid/evil do people have to be, after the truth has come out, to continue to support the lie?

Concerned Moderate Ag said:

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hunter2012 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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ABATTBQ11 said:

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mslags97 said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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LarryLayman said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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LarryLayman said:

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94DCAg said:

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No. This is not how I want my police to police.

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For your feelings you would prefer an innocent man rot in prison? How noble.

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Not innocent. Payed a price higher than cops are used to or more than he should have but he was not innocent.

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Example number 400,567,843,956 that leftists are incapable of setting aside their ideology, even for a second, and seeing the truth.

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Example 400,567,843,956 how sensitive grown men can't understand that somebody might just disagree with them and has to revert to calling them names and trying to "other" them.

Like I said earlier straight ticket republican three times Trump voter.

Politically loving everything that's happening right now.

Don't feel bad for Floyd. Don't feel bad for the lady that got shot yesterday.

The cop is also an ******* & should be in prison.

You don't have to call people names just because they don't agree with you. Makes you look like you lack self confidence and/or intelligence. I've never met you so I don't know for sure if you are ******ed & don't want to just assume so because this is the complete data set I have to go on.

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He died of a fentanyl overdose….

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As has been noted many times, no, he didn't. It's been repeated ad nauseum that he had a more than a lethal dose of fentanyl in his system, but it's been repeatedly ignored that he was a habitual user with a very high tolerance. If the incredibly high level of fentanyl in his system killed him outright, he wouldn't have even been walking around trying to pass his counterfeit bills because he'd have been on his ass or dead already. Did the fentanyl contribute to his death. I think the answer is absolutely. Did it kill him on its own and would he have died when he if Derek Chauvin or other cops never showed up that day? No.

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As far as the bold, you have no clue as to what would have happened. 100% pure conjecture.

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If they had kept him in the car when he first started saying he couldn't breath(where he did not have a cop on his back), he dies on the way to the hospital/jail and the incident doesn't even get mentioned in the local news. Just another drug OD statistic.

See I can do it too.

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If he couldn't breathe without a cop on his back for 9 minutes, he probably didn't need a cop on his back for 9 minutes. Conjecture all around.

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Of course, criminals never lie. He refused to comply and thus had to be restrained per the manual. Your post is illogical. To claim that he would not have died if not for Chauvin is simply stupid.