China just dropped world's best AI video generator

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Pacifico said:

This is very dangerous for humanity. Reject it.



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Hank the Grifter said:

We're gonna end up in a pre video era because no one will be able to believe anything they don't see with their own eyes.
The thing about this that really scares me (and I've already seen examples of it) are the realistic videos and photos of historical events that are either completely falsified or revisionist.
Think about the ramifications of THAT for a bit.


Here's one:
The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
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now on my Amazon list! Stephenson is some wild reading!
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In the future, there will only be one nonAI replacable job. Priest. And even then the Lutherans will come out with a gay, robot priest before 2040.
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techno-ag said:



You gotta hand it to the ChiComs, this is good stuff. Imagine what it would look like with top of the line Nvidia chips.

I think maybe we're getting closer to AI video that is so realistic you can't tell it's AI. And I think we're getting there faster than many people thought we would.


They are getting top of the line chips through Singapore,
Nvida knows and does not care. They tried to get Bloomberg to kill the investigation
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Rocky, it's time to step up your game!
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Odd - the model half way through leans over to paint and lost his right arm. Very realistic though.
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Ag In Ok said:

Odd - the model half way through leans over to paint and lost his right arm. Very realistic though.

Yup. Still some tells. But it's the best it's ever been. Give it a year and they'll eliminate even the smallest of tells.
The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
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There's already a ton of people that can't tell what's AI and what isn't. By the end of the year it will probably be 90%+ percent that can't tell.

I do wonder how long it's going to take for AI to make the right lip/face movements for sounds/words. As a lip reader I've seen AI get close but there's always tells, even in the Chinese videos they're not lining up right.
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Pizza said:

There will have to be a way to validate what is real vs what is fake. Some people suspect blockchain/personal tokens/Identifiers and/or legislation will be the answer, but nobody knows.

Hey maybe to prove who you are you'll need a special form of ID in order to buy or trade things! What could go wrong?

The issue is just like doctored photographs, for now.

If you look at the actual 0s and 1s, a specialist can point out real versus doctored photos. The people doctoring photos try to get more sophisticated, but the specialist get more sophisticated just as quickly.
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What does this mean for legal proceedings? The Shaggy defense is coming. Here's a video "wasn't me"
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I think we're within 10 years of a lot of video evidence being challenged in court, unless there is some sort of camera system developed that has embedded a way to guarantee all video captured/produced by it is legitimate.
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BusterAg said:

Pizza said:

There will have to be a way to validate what is real vs what is fake. Some people suspect blockchain/personal tokens/Identifiers and/or legislation will be the answer, but nobody knows.

Hey maybe to prove who you are you'll need a special form of ID in order to buy or trade things! What could go wrong?

The issue is just like doctored photographs, for now.

If you look at the actual 0s and 1s, a specialist can point out real versus doctored photos. The people doctoring photos try to get more sophisticated, but the specialist get more sophisticated just as quickly.
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Rubicante said:

I think we're within 10 years of a lot of video evidence being challenged in court, unless there is some sort of camera system developed that has embedded a way to guarantee all video captured/produced by it is legitimate.
that's definitely coming. Philip K. Dick is rolling in his grave right now at all this
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Court is one thing where the actual truth of a doctored photo or video may come out.

But in the court of public opinion the first impression of the lie of an AI photo, audio, or video will do all of the damage necessary and desired. Once a first impression is made and people get outraged over an AI fake, it is nearly impossible to get them to see the fraud and admit they were duped.

How many people STILL believe there are PP tapes of Trump in Moscow? Just imagine if there were blurry AI fake pictures circulated. How many people STILL believe in the Russia Russia Russia hoax? Just imagine if there were leaked surveillance videos of actual Russians plotting it.

People are gullible and stupid. What is truth?

In reality, most people don't want to know the truth, they want confirmation bias confirmed. This technology will be a political divider like never seen before.
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Virtual friends will soon be a reality



AI'll be there for you.........
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Hogties said:

Court is one thing where the actual truth of a doctored photo or video may come out.

But in the court of public opinion the first impression of the lie of an AI photo, audio, or video will do all of the damage necessary and desired. Once a first impression is made and people get outraged over an AI fake, it is nearly impossible to get them to see the fraud and admit they were duped.

How many people STILL believe there are PP tapes of Trump in Moscow? Just imagine if there were blurry AI fake pictures circulated. How many people STILL believe in the Russia Russia Russia hoax? Just imagine if there were leaked surveillance videos of actual Russians plotting it.

People are gullible and stupid. What is truth?

In reality, most people don't want to know the truth, they want confirmation bias confirmed. This technology will be a political divider like never seen before.

I honestly believe that as AI gets better, there are going to be online services where you could upload a video and the service would use AI to determine if the video was real or not.

It could be a horse race to see who stays out in front, but, with the speed of AI advancement, even if you could fool the services for a little while with really well made fake AI, the video will be static, and the AI services would become complex enough that the video would eventually be identified as a fake.
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Robert Kraft approved AI video
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SoTxAg said:

Aint skeered. Lots of good sci fi books prognosticate on all this. One of my favorites:



Thanks for the recommendation. Just picked it up on Audible.
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I'm sorry, if you aren't already skeptical of anything you read, hear, or see on a screen or in a book then you've already been duped, likely for years if not your entire life. There is always and has always been another side to the story, another perspective, an alternative source, a conspiracy theory behind everything. Your grandparents went through this with the invention of the printing press, you or your parents went through through this with the internet, and your children will go through this with AI.
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It seems AI would be used to explain away the sudden disappearance of all believers from the earth at the resurrection. A pretty convincing exposition will be presented, not that many non-believers would would need it.
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Ray Kurzweil continues to be prophetic...
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Anyone who wasn't scared sh&$less over a year ago by AI is pretty clueless.
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Eliminatus said:

Pacifico said:

This is very dangerous for humanity. Reject it.


Been saying it since the beginning. I also was duped and laughed at the misshapen hands and limbs blurring into the sidewalks. But I paid attention when that disappeared in less than a year. And quickly grew alarmed at the leaps and bounds it has grown since.

I have never seen such advancement so quickly in any field. I am not sure any human has. Even microchip tech which held that title previously. This laughs at Moore's Law. A very sizable chunk of this board continues to scoff at it and I can't help but think this is a massive mistake. I know what to look for and today's image and videos with the latest engines…I can sometimes guess correctly that they are generated. That's if I know to look in the first place.

This stuff legit scares the **** out of me. Because it forces me to question the truth of my eyes and ears.

Just think of where we will be in another two years. And we look at these examples here of entertainment but we all know it is just as applicable to be abused to bad actors and the outright crazy and those who simply want to see the world burn.

We were never going to be ready for this and I have never felt this bleak about anything ever in my life. I see absolutely no way this doesn't turn out horrendously awful in the long run. The amount of damage that WILL come from this technology will always overshadow whatever good may come from it.


I agree. It's got a lot of power and it should be curated with care. I too am alarmed at the exponential speed at which it improves. Considering it can improve without human interaction (or will shortly) it's even more alarming. Couple all of this with those that can control the media and where it is piped and an idea can be used to control anything you wish.

We already don't fact check things. The entire internet is happy to send half baked crap on to another user. Knowing you can synthesize media and messaging that cannot be easily verified as synthesized, to people who wouldn't care much to check it anyway….yeah, that ain't great.
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Kanye sings in Chinese.

The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
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flakrat said:

SoTxAg said:

Aint skeered. Lots of good sci fi books prognosticate on all this. One of my favorites:



Thanks for the recommendation. Just picked it up on Audible.

For those looking to read Fall: or Dodge in Hell, start with the first book "REAMDE".

I got several chapters into Fall and kept asking myself, "when did this character get introduced?"
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" Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia." --1984

Now, proof can be provided that this is true.
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Don't worry, AI can tell us what's AI…
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that looks fake af and doesnt even sound like Ye.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER!
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OK. How about Seinfeld?



Breaking Bad?



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Are they just posting what is produced or are they showing the actual input, processing time, and end product?
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Ag In Ok said:

Are they just posting what is produced or are they showing the actual input, processing time, and end product?
It's not released here yet I think but there have been short samples like this one:


And this one. They at least give their prompts.




ETA this one:
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F it! I'm going fishing.

But I do worry about my kids.
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No Spin Ag said:

The Kraken said:

bonfarr said:

Does it speak Engrish?

FIFY


FIFY of the day. Ror!

FIFY
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I'm hoping someone uses See Dance to remake the final season of Game of Thrones
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